Isla and Karst probably have my favourite interaction, but then again I’m immature and easily amused. I: got a new word for you, Karst. “Taciturn”, it means “silent”. K: Here goes. ...Hear that? No? Taciturn, but deadly.
Just had an interaction that I've not seen before between Vinderi and Nenet. "Found a weird mole this morning. Nenet?" "No." "Will you -- " "No." "-- take a look --" "No." "-- at this mole later?" "No." "...Fine." Had me cracking up!
Hey, KCN, great stuff as always. I think that the voice Nenet hears is of Sin--that is, you are correct--and I wanted to expand as to why I think this is so. Sin is likely, among other things, the God of Outcasts. He himself was an outcast when compared to his brother Innocence and mother (IMO, likely Kalandra). This explains why Tasuni and Nenet could hear him (they are both formal outcasts), and would point to the Faridun being an entire 'tribe' that has Sin as a patron.
Two years later, and I don't find anyone doing a grand breakdown of how the play Gianna has you steal is JUST The King In Yellow but psychedelia? It's meshing a few of the stories in the compilation, TKIY is actually an anthology book and one of the things haunting it is the PLAY by the same name. Anyways, one of the stories involves a "Turns things to stone" dip, and a tragic love who dives in after, well, tragedy. And I'm not even getting into Lake Hali, with its misty dreamy vibes or common framing against twin black stars.
I was just scanning the comments to fing TKIY, I'm glad someone mentioned it. Also, just a quick technical note: Ergot is a fungus, but it grows on grain, and looks like a discoloration, not like mushrooms. The psychedelic mushrooms were probably Wraeclast's version of Amanita Muscaria, which is what most people are referring to when they talk about psychoactive mushrooms.
I always assumed that the strange voices Nenet hears is the Strange Voice of Delirium's trickster god, especially when Nenet references all the negative emotions that Delirium evokes that the strange voice taunts you with (and attacks you with!). Especially since Nenet's line about the strange voices only happens after Avarius dies and the Delirium mirrors are enabled.
Re: Nenet and the strange voice, consider also that Lavianga writes about a karui child that is born and dies the same day, which he blames on Wraeclast's corruption. That child may have been born with the same affliction as the Faridun (and the karui may have decided to kill the child themselves, much as the Maraketh damn many of their children to death by leaving them in the desert). If Lavianga is correct, it stands to reason that those affected in such a way have some form of connection to nightmare, as we see with Tasuni and now perhaps with Nenet.
That is awesome! I did not make that connection at all. So some deformities might be caused by the Corruption and that leads to a connection with the Nightmare. Very plausible. I like that a lot.
I happened to read that stone just yesterday, and it occurred to me that there might be a connection there as you were theorizing about Nenet. If it is a legitimate link, it seems that the writers are still keeping that plot point in mind even seven years after they first put Lavianga's stones there. It's something that will probably become relevant in PoE2; worth looking out for in the future at any rate. I'm still not entirely convinced that Nenet is talking about Nightmare and not Tangmazu, though-she seems to specifically be calling out the creatures named Disgust, Loathing, etc in Tangmazu's mirrors. But that might just be the writers intentionally using misdirection, and at any rate, they've recently clarified that divinity and corruption are two sides of the same coin, so perhaps there isn't much of a jump between hearing the whispers of Nightmare and the influence of various gods. Being Faridun might mean she can pick up on both.
So Isla says she worked for a very bad man. She also theorised The Unbreakable, a construct nearly identical to the one we fight in Rewritten Distant Memory (synthesis unique map) thrown at us by Venarius. Maybe she worked for Venarius?
the jewel from venarius's memory is wraeclast. from his voice files: "My eyes were opened to the truth. Wraeclast is a rare shining bauble, at the cracks of infinite oceans of hungering madness."
The Dialogue of Adiyah about Nenet allways gives me SHivers. Its so Cold, its allmost beyond Believe. "I dont think ill of Nenet, i dont think of her at all" .....Gods.
It hurts my soul seeing this video was published 3 years ago. I swear heist came out last year. My nightmares say it was kalandra. But either way another amazing video as I continue my adventures down the lore rabbit hole
The Faridun have been mentioned earlier, when Metamorph scarabs were added (so I think in Delirium). They describe a Faridun outcast (so, a double-outcast?) named Saresh who was adopted by the Order but would later become a necromancer. Saresh the necromancer is brought up in Act 9, as Garukhan fought him and his undead horde at some point of history.
It's been three years but I always interpreted the "Jewel" Venarius saw as Zana, but I'm not sure when Niles exactly got that vision from his mind out of him, so I'm probably wrong, haha.
Im not sure if this was something that was added in later considering this vidoe is 2 yrs old now, but you do actually see fireworks with vinderis quest
Re: Venarius and his "single beleagured jewel", I just figured that was his own ego visualised - he's the only one who can save the world, the only sane adult in the room in a world of children/sheep/etc... in Synthesis it sounded like he needed (at least in his own mind) to protect against the Elder, but as you made clear in that video he was already very power-hungry at the point of the Elder's release. He could just be mad, or perhaps there's some SW Legends 'greater threat' that he considers justification for trying to barter with Decay?
Chayula and BreachLord Co. The Winged Breach Scarab and Niles mind reading of Venarius confirm this. Venarius went crazy over learning there was endless (Breach and Beyond) demons clawing at the veil of reality.
Cool, makes sense but I didn't know this detail. It paints an interesting picture of the hierarchy, though - I'd always pictured the Elder (and by extension Sirus) as something like personified entropy or annihilation - whereas Breach/Beyond/etc seem like other beings, odd ones with unusual style and motivation, but relatable living creatures nonetheless. If, conversely, Venarius was so intimidated by that form of alien that Elder as the-devil-you-know is preferable by comparison... perhaps we shouldn't be trivialising these Breachstone runs, eh?
@@Azerth I always took the personification of the breachlords as a mix between lovecraft type entities and judeo demons. You never actually kill them as they just reform in some hell. What your experience when you fight them, its just a part of their subconsciousness. Chayula sleeps and we fight his dreams.
I noticed that the song/sounds playing in the background are a bit to high sometimes. You should lower them a bit on next videos, it is sometimes hard to hear you (for ex: around 15:20 the music is as high as your voice).
See thats how i always read it. There is no boss. It's her technically. She created the mythos of the boss to bind people together or she wouldve never gotten the support of people like Faustus
Sooo... Did Victario and Hyrrie have a child? Maybe we have a Karui ''royal-line' running aroound. This would be interesting for the future of the Karui
Virtue gem are called this because they subtly effect the aura of living things making them behave differently without directly interfering with the person or living object. You can read up on virtue gems called *crystals* in the spiritual community. Hmm does that mean the vaal did exist IRL in the Atlantis time period????
![[PoE 2 Lore] The Story of Act 3 - Utzaal, Doryani, and the Vaal Cataclysm](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/HqAjQ37TNmI/mqdefault.jpg)
Hey GGG, what about them missing contracts? Reeee (Nenet is best)
Justice for Nenet!! REE
Isla and Karst probably have my favourite interaction, but then again I’m immature and easily amused.
I: got a new word for you, Karst. “Taciturn”, it means “silent”.
K: Here goes. ...Hear that? No? Taciturn, but deadly.
Just had an interaction that I've not seen before between Vinderi and Nenet. "Found a weird mole this morning. Nenet?" "No." "Will you -- " "No." "-- take a look --" "No." "-- at this mole later?" "No." "...Fine."
Had me cracking up!
Lol I love the overly mysterious "who knows" at what's almost certainly an in game bug. Well played.
The long awaited video arrives, unlike the missions for Nenet!
Hey, KCN, great stuff as always. I think that the voice Nenet hears is of Sin--that is, you are correct--and I wanted to expand as to why I think this is so. Sin is likely, among other things, the God of Outcasts. He himself was an outcast when compared to his brother Innocence and mother (IMO, likely Kalandra). This explains why Tasuni and Nenet could hear him (they are both formal outcasts), and would point to the Faridun being an entire 'tribe' that has Sin as a patron.
Two years later, and I don't find anyone doing a grand breakdown of how the play Gianna has you steal is JUST The King In Yellow but psychedelia? It's meshing a few of the stories in the compilation, TKIY is actually an anthology book and one of the things haunting it is the PLAY by the same name. Anyways, one of the stories involves a "Turns things to stone" dip, and a tragic love who dives in after, well, tragedy. And I'm not even getting into Lake Hali, with its misty dreamy vibes or common framing against twin black stars.
I was just scanning the comments to fing TKIY, I'm glad someone mentioned it.
Also, just a quick technical note: Ergot is a fungus, but it grows on grain, and looks like a discoloration, not like mushrooms. The psychedelic mushrooms were probably Wraeclast's version of Amanita Muscaria, which is what most people are referring to when they talk about psychoactive mushrooms.
I always assumed that the strange voices Nenet hears is the Strange Voice of Delirium's trickster god, especially when Nenet references all the negative emotions that Delirium evokes that the strange voice taunts you with (and attacks you with!). Especially since Nenet's line about the strange voices only happens after Avarius dies and the Delirium mirrors are enabled.
I did not play Heist, but I like this Niles guy already. Finally, we met the Sane Exile!
Re: Nenet and the strange voice, consider also that Lavianga writes about a karui child that is born and dies the same day, which he blames on Wraeclast's corruption. That child may have been born with the same affliction as the Faridun (and the karui may have decided to kill the child themselves, much as the Maraketh damn many of their children to death by leaving them in the desert). If Lavianga is correct, it stands to reason that those affected in such a way have some form of connection to nightmare, as we see with Tasuni and now perhaps with Nenet.
That is awesome! I did not make that connection at all. So some deformities might be caused by the Corruption and that leads to a connection with the Nightmare. Very plausible. I like that a lot.
I happened to read that stone just yesterday, and it occurred to me that there might be a connection there as you were theorizing about Nenet. If it is a legitimate link, it seems that the writers are still keeping that plot point in mind even seven years after they first put Lavianga's stones there. It's something that will probably become relevant in PoE2; worth looking out for in the future at any rate.
I'm still not entirely convinced that Nenet is talking about Nightmare and not Tangmazu, though-she seems to specifically be calling out the creatures named Disgust, Loathing, etc in Tangmazu's mirrors. But that might just be the writers intentionally using misdirection, and at any rate, they've recently clarified that divinity and corruption are two sides of the same coin, so perhaps there isn't much of a jump between hearing the whispers of Nightmare and the influence of various gods. Being Faridun might mean she can pick up on both.
So Isla says she worked for a very bad man. She also theorised The Unbreakable, a construct nearly identical to the one we fight in Rewritten Distant Memory (synthesis unique map) thrown at us by Venarius. Maybe she worked for Venarius?
Hey these videos are the fucking best and i love that you're still making them.
I wish GGG would pay you to collect this all in a book it's amazing how much trouble goes into these videos.
the jewel from venarius's memory is wraeclast. from his voice files: "My eyes were opened to the truth. Wraeclast is a rare shining bauble, at the cracks of infinite oceans of hungering madness."
Still mad that the Nenet contracts aren't in. She's my favourite rogue by far and I really wanted to do more with her.
The Dialogue of Adiyah about Nenet allways gives me SHivers. Its so Cold, its allmost beyond Believe. "I dont think ill of Nenet, i dont think of her at all" .....Gods.
These NPCs are amazing, Vinderi makes me lose my shit on a constant basis!
PoE is becoming a JJ Abrams story. Too many mysteries and no pay off.
Great video as usual though! Thanks for doing this
It hurts my soul seeing this video was published 3 years ago. I swear heist came out last year. My nightmares say it was kalandra.
But either way another amazing video as I continue my adventures down the lore rabbit hole
The Faridun have been mentioned earlier, when Metamorph scarabs were added (so I think in Delirium). They describe a Faridun outcast (so, a double-outcast?) named Saresh who was adopted by the Order but would later become a necromancer. Saresh the necromancer is brought up in Act 9, as Garukhan fought him and his undead horde at some point of history.
It's been three years but I always interpreted the "Jewel" Venarius saw as Zana, but I'm not sure when Niles exactly got that vision from his mind out of him, so I'm probably wrong, haha.
Thanks again for the video!
Im not sure if this was something that was added in later considering this vidoe is 2 yrs old now, but you do actually see fireworks with vinderis quest
Re: Venarius and his "single beleagured jewel", I just figured that was his own ego visualised - he's the only one who can save the world, the only sane adult in the room in a world of children/sheep/etc... in Synthesis it sounded like he needed (at least in his own mind) to protect against the Elder, but as you made clear in that video he was already very power-hungry at the point of the Elder's release. He could just be mad, or perhaps there's some SW Legends 'greater threat' that he considers justification for trying to barter with Decay?
Chayula and BreachLord Co.
The Winged Breach Scarab and Niles mind reading of Venarius confirm this. Venarius went crazy over learning there was endless (Breach and Beyond) demons clawing at the veil of reality.
Cool, makes sense but I didn't know this detail. It paints an interesting picture of the hierarchy, though - I'd always pictured the Elder (and by extension Sirus) as something like personified entropy or annihilation - whereas Breach/Beyond/etc seem like other beings, odd ones with unusual style and motivation, but relatable living creatures nonetheless.
If, conversely, Venarius was so intimidated by that form of alien that Elder as the-devil-you-know is preferable by comparison... perhaps we shouldn't be trivialising these Breachstone runs, eh?
@@Azerth I always took the personification of the breachlords as a mix between lovecraft type entities and judeo demons.
You never actually kill them as they just reform in some hell. What your experience when you fight them, its just a part of their subconsciousness.
Chayula sleeps and we fight his dreams.
My fireworks fireworks worked when I got to that point in the questline, its the win fireworks
I noticed that the song/sounds playing in the background are a bit to high sometimes. You should lower them a bit on next videos, it is sometimes hard to hear you (for ex: around 15:20 the music is as high as your voice).
I Miss the "Its your boy noodle" at the end :(
I believe that what niles saw was the scourge coming for wreaclast due to what the vaal did centuries ago with their blood sacrifices
can you make a quick vid about Oni Goroshi >*.*
See thats how i always read it. There is no boss. It's her technically. She created the mythos of the boss to bind people together or she wouldve never gotten the support of people like Faustus
Sooo... Did Victario and Hyrrie have a child? Maybe we have a Karui ''royal-line' running aroound. This would be interesting for the future of the Karui
Not according to the (cannon) comics.
WTB Insanely Detailed Lore Book. 10c
Marilla, the porcelain queen.
your game was broken, for me there was fireworks
Vinderi is the best
That's very "Tullina" of you to say! Thank you
Opal sounds like she is an albino, however, wouldn't it be much more intersting if she was an entity akin to Innocence and Sin?
Old, old, old lady . At least 40 😆
nois
Virtue gem are called this because they subtly effect the aura of living things making them behave differently without directly interfering with the person or living object. You can read up on virtue gems called *crystals* in the spiritual community. Hmm does that mean the vaal did exist IRL in the Atlantis time period????