You can pad the inside/outside of the fire-resistant safe with fire-resistant materials like rockwool if you're feeling paranoid. But the average house fire only lasts ~1 hour on average, and house fires generally go up to 1200 F / 650 C, which is what a lot of UL-rated safes are rated to resist for 1 h. Of course, something like an asteroid impact would decimate just about everything, and the only way to safeguard against this type of eventuality would be to store your safe in a 1-mile deep underground shelter. The only problem is that this would be prohibitively expensive to anyone who doesn't happen to own or have access to a deep mine. Either way, based on what we know of typical house fires and their burning durations and temperatures, many fire-resistant safes do provide statistically adequate protection.
I think you have to admire the integrity of changing their rating to something that they know is less appealing to customers but which is factually correct. Well done Fireking.
The solution generally seems to be layers of protection, i.e. UL-certified fire resistant boxes inside of larger UL-certified fire resistant boxes/cabinets. If the exterior box caps out at 350 F internal temperature, then it stands to reason that the box inside of that one should reach that same internal temperature even more slowly. Thermodynamics is a complex science and I'm not sure what equations to use here, but surely layering in this way would give you at least 1.5x longer protection versus a single container.
Here’s the thing… My neighborhood is in the woods. I don’t for one minute believe my house would only burn for an hour. There’s no such thing as a safe that will keep your belongings safe from a wildlife!
The only thing that works is if the safe is built into the concrete foundation of the home. and it has to be super legit at the same time. like a 2 hour UL listed in that scenario.
Crazy idea here: if you're concerned about your safe not surviving a fire, what about putting a few cases of water on top of the safe? If it was hot enough, it would melt open the water bottles and even though its only a few gallons of water, it could substantially reduce the heat.
that was rigged. you can clearly see that they used a safe that has no fire seal. in order for any safe to be fire rated, a expanding fire seal must be used. I have seen quite a few home fires in my day and some fairly budget friendly safes do JUST FINE. Granted i would not have anything non UL listed in a place with no sprinkler system. Fire Kings are awesome and no doubt that a cheap drywall safe is junk and won't really protect things flawlessly but they do a decent job
Now test stealth safe(both regular and concrete composite variety) and guard all safe and rhino safe and Berg watcher safe and The burglary and fire rated American security safes
Banks are concrete and steel and deposit boxes are sometimes located 1 level down under ground and located in an area where a fire station is right around the corner so for a few dollars a year, that's your best bet
Code compliance is 5/8" fire rated drywall 2 layers thiick that is seamed and tapped. all those cheap safes are junk because of 1 layer of 1/2 inch. want a decent fire rating, double up some 5/8 and seam it then reinstall the 1/2 and trim to fit.
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Seems like the only way to protect your belongings is to keep them in a fire resistant safe but keep the safe away from fire.
Burry it.
Exactly
You can pad the inside/outside of the fire-resistant safe with fire-resistant materials like rockwool if you're feeling paranoid. But the average house fire only lasts ~1 hour on average, and house fires generally go up to 1200 F / 650 C, which is what a lot of UL-rated safes are rated to resist for 1 h.
Of course, something like an asteroid impact would decimate just about everything, and the only way to safeguard against this type of eventuality would be to store your safe in a 1-mile deep underground shelter. The only problem is that this would be prohibitively expensive to anyone who doesn't happen to own or have access to a deep mine.
Either way, based on what we know of typical house fires and their burning durations and temperatures, many fire-resistant safes do provide statistically adequate protection.
sitting here watching tons of fire safe reviews and none make me feel any better, haha
guess its just another scam lol...
buy lots of fire extinguisher (and a few in every room)
A company that actually changed their advertising claim...amazing!
I think you have to admire the integrity of changing their rating to something that they know is less appealing to customers but which is factually correct. Well done Fireking.
The solution generally seems to be layers of protection, i.e. UL-certified fire resistant boxes inside of larger UL-certified fire resistant boxes/cabinets. If the exterior box caps out at 350 F internal temperature, then it stands to reason that the box inside of that one should reach that same internal temperature even more slowly. Thermodynamics is a complex science and I'm not sure what equations to use here, but surely layering in this way would give you at least 1.5x longer protection versus a single container.
I wish people knew more about this stuff.
Here’s the thing… My neighborhood is in the woods. I don’t for one minute believe my house would only burn for an hour. There’s no such thing as a safe that will keep your belongings safe from a wildlife!
The only thing that works is if the safe is built into the concrete foundation of the home. and it has to be super legit at the same time. like a 2 hour UL listed in that scenario.
Just dig a hole.
Crazy idea here: if you're concerned about your safe not surviving a fire, what about putting a few cases of water on top of the safe? If it was hot enough, it would melt open the water bottles and even though its only a few gallons of water, it could substantially reduce the heat.
that was rigged. you can clearly see that they used a safe that has no fire seal. in order for any safe to be fire rated, a expanding fire seal must be used. I have seen quite a few home fires in my day and some fairly budget friendly safes do JUST FINE. Granted i would not have anything non UL listed in a place with no sprinkler system. Fire Kings are awesome and no doubt that a cheap drywall safe is junk and won't really protect things flawlessly but they do a decent job
Now test stealth safe(both regular and concrete composite variety) and guard all safe and rhino safe and Berg watcher safe and The burglary and fire rated American security safes
Putting emergency cash in a safe idea is good just don’t put all your belongings in a home safe. At that point get a deposit box at the bank.
Banks are concrete and steel and deposit boxes are sometimes located 1 level down under ground and located in an area where a fire station is right around the corner so for a few dollars a year, that's your best bet
That safe looks like a Winchester safe sold at tractor supply rates 1200 degrees for 30 minutes
7000 people had nothing to say ..🤔
Maybe they had comments off then turned them on
Code compliance is 5/8" fire rated drywall 2 layers thiick that is seamed and tapped. all those cheap safes are junk because of 1 layer of 1/2 inch. want a decent fire rating, double up some 5/8 and seam it then reinstall the 1/2 and trim to fit.
I keep my money safe outside underground hidden on my property
It’s less expensive and easier to just buy insurance.
Home insurance will not cover more than$500.00 in cash,or so I'm told.
Insurance for documents/photos/souvenirs from the ones you already lost? They are useless paper for everyone but you.
@@atexc5604 you do you Boo
1200°f fire hahaha. YOU WISH!!
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