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Kimbal Musk on childhood violence: They tried to beat Elon to death
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- Опубликовано: 30 янв 2024
- Kimbal Musk recalls the violence he witnessed during Apartheid in South Africa. Kimbal opens up witnessing a murder and later seeing his brother Elon beat up to the point of becoming nearly unrecognizable. Kimbal opens up about the relationship with his dad, who he says tortured them emotionally and psychologically.
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I grew up in the same city and circumstances as these brothers... Oh god.!... It was sickening! Thank God I survived
I am sure the boertjies bliksemed you good
Soek jy kak?
@@RowOfMushyTiT sorry wat sê jy moffie?
Really, why not give us some of your 'facts'?
clearly . .. . things didn't get better, look at the comments below for one, and at the country for another.
Its good to see someone who survived bullying. Ive been through bullying
I knew what it was like to be bullied from 1st grade thru 4th. I was really short for my age and I got good grades. The problem was my teacher talking about it in front of the class. Don't make a child as a good or bad example. My PTSD comes from being bullied.
@@daphnekivinen9482 Good thing I have my dads temper and will fight back or get back. Us Hispanics back in the 70's were not that bad compared to you guys. We lived in between white and black and I will say the blacks were worse at starting trouble. But nothing on how Africans in Africa did each other and still do today. Or how whites did what they did to Natives, better to die fighting evil than living as a pushover.
Elon didn't survive bullying, he survived a violent assault. Bullying is silly kid stuff like, "You stink.'
I pray both of these men's hearts will be completely healed.
Gabor Mate.
It's so unfair.
@@Simone-Bucnsome people choose to be cruel. It is very sad the damage people do to one another. But the Lord can heal the broken hearted, and He will not reject any who come to Him. I speak from experience. I have hurt others and have been hurt, but the Lord forgave me, healed my heart, and changed me. I am nobody in this life. If He will do it for me, He will do it for all who cry out to Him.
@@StarAndAshley Thank You, I needed to see this today ! God Bless you , what you say is 100% true .🙏😇
While you're at it, pray for Elon's children. Do a little research and you'll find out he's no Gem of a father, just a smaller chip from the same stone.
Always amazes me when children of extreme abuse and trauma grow up to be as kind and articulate as these guys.
I believe some children of abuse understand how evil the abuse that happened to them was. They vow never to become like that themselves. Sometimes those children grow to be adults of peace.
@@Earthy-Artist Get into it. Get into your trauma. It's okay. Very healing.
musk is a monster.
@@nejuw what have you done useful for others? Is there anything someone uses that you have built that is comparable (at least in potential) with what Musk has done? If not, I hope you never have any power over others, because you would be a monster due to a skewed hierarchy of moral values. Imagination does not constitute proof.
You don't understand the difference between Musk acquiring companies because of his fathers wealth, wealth from stolen land and the theft of its resources and the people that actually have the brains that develop the technology. He's bought and paid for by Saudi Arabia and off his head on psychedelics. @@IsacriToth
Even in school Elon was resented for being smart. I recall learning about him thrown down the stairs, left shattered, teeth knocked out. He dragged himself up and repeated correct answers with a "fuck you" attitude. I have such enormous respect for these brothers.
did he really get his teeth knocked out?
I do too.
I agree.. Elon Musk deserves all of the success he’s got.
Their mother ❤
For goodness sake everyone was bullied in school and no one have PTSD! Stop victimization.
What a thoughtful man. This makes me look at his brother in a different way.
A little bit. I hadn't heard about the time when Elon was severely beat up, but I had a feeling that he had at least one older larger bully beat him up at some point while growing up.
? I never understand how people cannot read people without being shown. Just listening to Elon and you know he is a force of nature for goodness. I think he is a decent human.
@@sikugord03 He's changed his politics drastically recently, which should lead many to wonder about his underlying motivations. He's doing some horrible animal testing, and he's got inside connections into the government where he purchased much of his technology (I know how this goes as I dated a man many years ago who was part of a team who competed in a gov't auction to purchase sat radio tech from the gov't.)
I never liked the guy and that won’t change!
Antisemitism isn't pretty.
As someone who has Asperger’s and grew up getting mercilessly bullied, Elon Musk is a huge inspiration to me. God Bless that man.
He's a Nazi... let that sink in!!!!
I wanna say I sincerely wish you all the peace you can find, in some way or another.
DON'T EVER let this world get to you. You can overcome it. It's all about the power of your mind 🔥🔥♥️
My dad told me that I was in the world but not of it.
No wonder Elon is strong and able to stand up against the crowd. He’s already been through and see the worst of it. What can they scare him with now. I don’t agree with Elon on everything but you can’t help but admire and respect him-and his brother! Very enlightening.
I just did the exact oppsite of my parents for my family. And i physically protected my siblings, i made a decision to jump inbetween my abuser and them. I will never regret that.
Why would you regret it, hypothetically, I mean...like...what situation would have to arrive where you'd be all: "Son of a gun, I sh9ulda let ya get it all those times..." Whatever that situation is, I hope it never occurs!!!
@@Joshua_Froschauer I know bc RIGHT?!! Hahaha
Healing from CPTSD from a parental relationship is not an easy feat, but a very necessary thing so you don't carry that generational trauma to the next generation. Kudos to them both for choosing themselves and supporting each other so they didn't have to go back.
Thankfully more and more people are becoming aware of CPTSD and generational trauma too. As knowing it exists helps that healing process to be able to start.
I've never heard of it before now. But that's what I had.
Trauma is everywhere. This is earth. Demons abound. When laws won't allow murder they use what they doing to Trump. Meaning hate is d evil. Bullying, racism...all is hate.
@@cynthiagonzalez658 You probably still have it. We all do. We are victims of our heredity, ancestry, and conditioning. But we are finding different ways of healing those wounds.
What does the C stand for?
It's a trip how similar him and Elon are. Their mannerisms and how they speak, it's similar to twins. It's fascinating!
I didn’t think twins exactly but I notice a lot of similarities for sure.
There’s a resemblance to Joe Simpson, Jessica Simpson’s father.
he bangs kids.
@@user-vi3jd7mm1k I'm gonna have to check that out!
They are extremely close siblings.
Emotional & psychological abuse lasts longer and has a much deeper effect than physical abuse/violence.
Not really. Do you think physical abuse is accompanied by silence? Tons of emotional abuse happens alongside the physical abuse.
@@suras8984 yes, that’s what I’m saying, the physical abuse heals, but the psychological part of it takes much longer.
How dangerous South Africa WAS? not past tense! MORE DANGEROUS now.
Yes you are right
Still IS !!!
Basketball people are like that everywhere
That kind of trauma is hard to get over.
So wild what people have had to live through, just because of where they were born.
Yes, and worse when people who you are supposed to trust assault innocent people because they are not white or assume they have to be a perpetrator based on what they look like!
Cops are supposed to serve and protect!
The United States isn't any safer!
Their grandfather chose to live there, not them.
I'm American and I have seen extreme violence since I was a child. Now, at 57, I reflect on the trauma I work on unloading every day. My earliest memory is from 3 years old and city living in America is a war zone, especially when you're poor. Look around, nothing has changed, things have only gotten worse. 💔🇺🇸
@@randje1999Elon, Kimbal and their sister who weren't born yet? ok😂
Im glad he talks about how violent verbal and psychological abuse can be. Unless you know urself, it might b hard for some to imagine
Psychological abuse is the *worst* abuse there is. 😞
@@Simone-Bucn - It's high time psychological abuse was recognised as being equal to physical violence, be it domestic or otherwise.
@@OliviaHacking-kf7px absolutely! But, like everything else, if they can't *see* it, they don't care.
@@Simone-Bucn Not wanting to be negative just factual, it's worse than that. They DO see and don't care.
What happened at the Paris Olympics in boxing today is proof of that as a female contender stopped her match for fear of death.
Horrendous example on the global stage that many sick individuals would have appreciated.
A reason I love this family is because they never paraphrase anyone but are deep thinkers and use their own original thoughts to form phrases. Very intelligent individuals ❤
"America doesn't understand that the rest of the world is not like America" YES
Americans also have this idea that they are exceptional and better than everywhere else which also isn't really true. It's quite contradictory.
@budawang77 I'm American. Are you talking about Patriotism? Or entitlement? I think Patriotism is lacking, as we don't do a good job of educating our people about what we do, why do it, Democracy, etc. I see a lot of entitlement, where most Americans live in a cozy bubble where they have no clue what it's like of citizens around the world. They think their rights are always trampled on, which has some truth, but is a joke compared to most countries and some will visit a nice part of Europe for a week or two and think that the USA should become a Socialist country. Most are completely ignorant about global relations, whether it be trade or security & know little to nothing about other countries, where I feel like other countries know quite a bit about us because we tend to set the tone for the rest of the world, so what we do effects everyone else.
@budawang77 to clarify, as an American I think my country is "the best" and am very glad I was born here. I expect many foreigners think THEIR country is "the best" and I think that is very healthy! However, as a human being, I do not think I am better than another human being for simply being American. Hope that makes sense.
@@toeachitsown2050 Yes, all this is more or less true. I'm Australian and the same can be said about us to a lesser degree. Our population is only 26 million but we occupy an entire continent and we can be entitled and live inside our own cozy bubble. However, unlike the USA, we can't pretend to be the centre of the universe and a large majority of Australians have travelled outside their country, often to Asia. The US is such a big and influential country that the average Australian knows a lot more about you than you know about us. We're following your election closely and feel like we have a big stake in it.
@@toeachitsown2050 The word "best" is subjective. Perhaps it's the best for you because of your specific criteria or simply because you aren't familiar with anything else. I'm Australian but currently residing in the tiny Pacific nation of Vanuatu which, by the usual measures, would be considered far from "the best". However, its people are some of the happiest in the world and live in a beautiful environment. They have a strong sense of belonging and their mental health is generally a lot better than in "advanced" countries. If your sole criteria are mental health and human happiness, then I'd wager Vanuatu is "better" than either Australia or the US.
Still, the same level of violence in South Africa is hard to explain.
las vegas mandalay bay violence with thousands injured by one man. A true American with a motivation. no one in south Africa is capable of that level of violence with by one man
@@KuatoLives99 I have no clue what youre trying to do here
It's easy to explain. Anywhere you go in the entire world where the population is almost entirely buhlack you'll see the same numbers. Don't be afraid to point out the truth because someone will slap a label on you. It's just a label.
Nice made up whataboutism.
@@KuatoLives99 one has a traumatic event every so often. South Africa has one every single day
Healing from CPTSD from a parental relationship is incredibly hard, especially when your siblings, who were used as pawns alongside the parent, go in the other direction. I had to sever all ties with the parent and the siblings who refuse to acknowledge and move on. I am so glad the two brothers have and support each other.
That was South Africa in the 80’s….imagine what it is like now here in South Africa.
Horrible...it's horrible here😭
Must remember that was the time of the uprising against apartheid so was more of political killings... now it's actual crime
I’ve worked overseas with S. African police officers. The stories they told me were terrifying. If we don’t get our shit sorted out real quick, we’re going to be living it here.
'mericans are do ethno-centric. Like we're 'sposed to know ure a 'merican ?@@bevalexander5897
I have several good friends who are SA, they say their quite fearful of the collapse of SA
He’s right. You can’t repair a relationship with an insanely mean or evil person. 💗
I had no idea.. such a sad beginning for them..
Wow! I have read about the Boer Wars in South Africa, but I assumed it concluded when the war ended. I had no idea that animosity continued, even a hundred years later.
WOW 😯 this is crazy.... The way he speaks, such as taking pauses between his words. His mannerisms, his facial movements, his expressions, it is exactly Elon.
It’s autism. Elon has mentioned being autistic, it’s genetic and generally affects multiple people in the family. The pauses in speech can be one of the traits.
@@woopweep9605 it also show maturity in reflective and selective words/responses. I don't think that's autism. They both show empathy and self reflection. both on a micro and macro level.
@@user-fl6ko9do5yin the case of someone like Obama, it shows they want to be careful with what they say and secret in hiding true thoughts. I don't trust politicians who are careful in what they say
Thank god Elon and his bro left South Africa.
What an awful, chaotic place to live.
Their father was bipolar and hated himself.
Don't cry little girl
You're just mad cuz you're still stuck there )
@@RowOfMushyTiT here is the moffie again
Poor man, I can relate to him about the chaotic attachment. I had a similar childhood. My dad was not a physically violent man, but would torment us with hours and hours of verbal abuse.
That is psychologically violent. Make no mistake about it. Bruises & bones heal far more easily than a person's heart & soul
That’s typical much worse than physical abuse. Physical is obvious but phycological does so much unknown damage for the rest of your life. 😢
with the result that you then had NO relationship with him as an adult. pretty much like my relationship with mine. As an adult I wd call my mom every day, never my Dad. and when i went to their house i usually only went when my mom was home, not my Dad. and if i encountered him, I only spoke to him when he spoke to me. He destroyed the relationship long before I go to b an adult.
@@Lauren-vd4qeyup…..and they think they’re right, always gotta be right,killing love the whole time.🇺🇸
My mom would do the same. I’m 42 and still have nightmares about that women. And I’m supposed to easily “forgive” her. Smh. She hasn’t contacted me in 8 years. She’s a selfish monster from hell
I was in South Africa for almost a year during apartheid. I hated how blacks were treated so unfairly. If I complained to the SA white producers, I was told I could be treated similarly. Disgusting. My tailor, very gentle and very talented was put in a beach cottage on the Atlantic in July. No heat, freezing. So we went shopping. Bought heaters, blankets, amenities to live. No restaurants would serve them. So no food. Broke my heart.
You can't free fish from water
We are not responsible for the fact that they are inferior
@@ChewyChicken589 lol, tough guy, the end will come for you too one day.
Your mother is inferior
Were the producers Afrikaans or English descent?
To me what is aweful? is not knowing if you tried or not helping your brother. I got jumped by 3 men and my younger brother, he was 15 at the time was by my side out of nowhere hitting ang getting hit. That's when i felt fear, really felt the fear. How am i going to face my parents if something happened to their younges child? That gave me the extra OOOmp and finished the fight with the heavy and thick ashstray over their heads and got my brother home to my parents house safe.
That's what I was thinking. How do you not remember. I ain't believing this guy's story. I think he's trying to make excuses for his brothers nutty ass ways.
it's not that he does not remember. It's where the trauma is... the 2 examples he gave is him watching people being killed one a stranger and the other his brother, and doing nothing... that's the thought he witnessed and froze and did nothing that is torturing him... and I know exactly the feeling because I remember being in similar situation... he has to forgive himself, there was nothing he could do, just be beaten up with his brother...
It sounds like he father had so much control over them, he can’t react to defend himself, it’s very complicated to explain. The reason I know is because my mom verbally abused me to the point of inaction, she said I was dumb therefore I let her guide my actions, it takes a long time to recover from overwhelming abuse. There is much today on the subject but I recognize he had a abusive narcissistic parent
@@librarymouse567X♥️X I experienced the same as you. All the best to you.
I get what you're saying Joann.
*I got quite a few memories where now
I wish I'd taken some verbal offenders I came across On It
Instead of letting it go and and keeping my head cool, and let them get away with it.
Why?
I was brought up to be respectful, be tolerant, and avoid trouble as much as possible.
Although I was also encouraged to speak my mind
Omg I feel so sorry for him I know about death and violence I’ve been thru the same stuff.@Kimbal Musk I’m so sorry I’m an older woman who’s been shot at for 10 years,violated,choked I feel your pain.Wish I new u and your family better.
Most of us don't know how courageous we'll be in a violent situation. Most people freeze up andmost people claim they would not. Especially outnumbered or facing a stronger adversary.
Beautiful childhood pictures. Life is so short. We are not here long
I noticed one of the photos Elon was cuddling his dog, and in another photo was touching his brothers shoulder. Elon seems very kind.
@@Earthy-Artist yea he had some good parents. Lucky man. My mom had five kids she had to raise by herself, she worked as a bartender at a strip club and was never home at night. My dad killed himself and was not there since I was five. Life was hell I’m 42 and just now getting my mind in order, the suffering I went through I would not wish upon anyone. Sadly, there are millions of kids experiencing that same suffering. We have all the wealth in this country, but everybody keeps it to themselves instead of helping each other. This is what the Bible warned about this could be a Utopia if the hearts of men and women.
He's still a racist Nazi.
@@FromTheHood2TheWoods I'm sorry you went through all of that! My childhood was absolutely abysmal as well. I came to know the Lord which helps me get through this life. The Bible says in Revelation 21:4 'And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.'
@@Earthy-Artist amen he has given me so many second chances and saved me so many times. I moved from Florida to a small mountain town just to change myself and my ways. Didn’t want to die without living a repentant life. Now I no longer have to fear death because I’m at peace knowing I’m doing my best. God bless you.
I grew up in SA back then and yes, it was a very strict culture, but still we had respect for life. The boys would beat each other, but guns and knives were unheard of. SA today is riddled with crime and violence and no-one is really save.😢
I live in the UK now and my mum says not to go back. Not even for a visit because it's too dangerous to even drive home from the airport. It's a far cry from the country I grew up in. Yes, I was a minority that was oppressed but life for my family was a lot better back then than it is now.
@Ashtarot77 Oh, please, my husband, fly abroad frequently. He drives to O.R. Tambo and leaves his car there. He works in the medical field as a senior field service engineer. He goes to Soweto, Baraghwana, Arcadia. Yes, it's not as safe as when we were kids. The people of this country are still predominantly conservative. There are places that are very dangerous, but every country has its dangerous places. I lived abroad and even finished school abroad. There is no place like South Africa.
@@grumpy_me5521 Lucky you.
I guess apartheid was necessary after-all. Black tribes may have warred with each other without weapons, but the infrastructure was in place-- security, electricity, food, water, education and medical for all both white and black.
@@grumpy_me5521 BS
CPTSD... This is so sad.
You watched your brother getting beat nearly to death. That still bothers you, why?. That has to be one of the dumbest question I've ever heard.
South Africa is now much, much more dangerous! You lived here when things were not to bad.
I’ve been beaten unrecognizable before, it is traumatizing
Me too
Believe Elon ended up staying in the hospital for a week after the beating.
I’m English, now Australian. I’m learning about the white on white violence in the 80s now for the first time. It was unreported in the UK. I spent 80s protesting against apartheid. This certainly explains much of his 20s30s and 40s
Your slow, just look at the USA, see all the German, Italian, Irish, British, Scottish decent people fighting still in politics. Joe B. and the swamp just tried to assasinate another white person, before that it was Russia, Russia, Russia. Look at the Propaganda platforms here in the USA, it's basically white on white fighting, money, money, money, greed, greed, greed, power, power, power and so on. The brown people are just thrown in their to be used to fool the others.
Surviving a Narcissistic father, takes years to recover from, and shame on there mother for not taking those boys away out of that environment.
She was likely a victim too!
“Their mother”
She was also a victim. Elon doesn't have tolerance for fools or abusers. The fact that he adores and respects her should be enough to get through your sophomoric state.
@@victrola2007 But we're adults when we're mothers. I had to leave my abuser when I realized I wasn't the only target--and I wish I'd realized far sooner that simply being a target myself was harming my child.
I empathize with the mother. But I'll never excuse her or any adult who isn't protecting their child.
Elon and Kimball’s mother did take her 3 children with her when she left her abusive husband. The boys’ dad begged and argued for the return of his 2 sons. He claimed that it was unfair that he was deprived of all of his children. Elon and Kimbal voluntarily agreed and wanted to return to their dad. They may have regretted later. I believe that the dad thought that his wife would return if he had the sons but he was abusive to her too. Elon and Kimbal chose to return to their father for a variety of reasons.
He reminds me of a young Warren Beatty.
Yes he does 😊👵🏽✌🏾
I can see that
he is very attractive
It’s easy to covet what the Musk brothers have as adults but most of us could not bear to go through their childhood.
Maybe that’s a difference between the US and South Africa then; here, at least in the South, a brother would’ve gotten beaten up alongside his brother rather than watch it, no matter how impractical it seems. Even people just standing by will help.
Currently a courageous man awaits trial for saving subway passengers from a deranged man. Because the deranged man died, likely because he was under the influence of many substances, they’re prosecuting the man who saved them from him. So our men are brave but our justice system is f@kked up.
Alot of people get beat up in cities and people just walk by without helping,your statement is not 100%accurate.
@@user-wx2cq8ey7yThe marine the original poster spoke of that helped in the NYC subway stepped out of the herd mentality you speak of that exists in cities in order to help. I think it depends on the group of people standing around. Some herds just have less people willing to put themselves at risk and step up to help when needed.
It's not all South Africans it's just him
US is also a dangerous country too
I am from same era and this is exactly what it was like in South Africa then - made us tough 😂 fight for your life .
Alot of western people in comments who really dont get what life in South Africa can be.
I'm from Australia, and I know. As a white, I would never go to South Africa...
All I need to know is South Africa is a shithole nation.
@@HouseWinchester1874thanks SA doesn't want you there
@@76shianmove along sub human
South Africa violent "back then"? IT IS STILL VIOLENT.
Violence gets passed down from generation to generation. Hard to break the cycle, but it is possible.
Kimble is an absolute treasure....
Bless these brothers 🙏🏼❤🙏🏼
I knew a Nurse from S. Africa, who was from a White farming family. She said that they had to carry sub-machine guns for protection.
As little girls we STEPPED INTO THE PUNCHES of my Father. My sister above me, for me. Myself for the littliest that was two years younger. PERIOD!! ALWAYS. TOOK BLAME FOR ANYTHING others did, so they wouldnt be the ones hitting the walls. I cant imagine sitting back and doing nothing. But I do understand that kind of 'freezing up'
I grew up in a really dangerous city and, my parents abused me regularly physically and mentally.
Unlike Elon I never made it. Whatever it takes to make it in this world has been removed from me.
Elon makes me so proud.
The relationship with their dad was especially interesting. Ive seen this kind of relationship and it either brakes the kid or makes it highly motivated
A person being "highly" motivated does not necessarily make them a *good person in any way. Lots of $ money doesn't help a person (who is not already a good person) become a good person. E.M. has proven he's not.
@@JesgateOnDownBill gates much😂😂😂😂
@@JesgateOnDownc'mon Zuckerturd lighten up😵💫😵💫😵💫
It was interesting and very disturbing. I have compassion for them. Their father was a monster.
@@JesgateOnDownWhy do you think he is not? Stop reading headlines. Watch interviews instead
I really do not agree that the hateed between English & Afrikaaners is as bad as he is saying! I am 83 years of age, & South African born - 1941 - & I have always got along, with NO animosity, between these 2 race groups. I grew up in a very English environment, having learned Afrikaans mainly as theory - Natal - came to study in Johannesburg after I had completed my school career, & was taken in, as it were, by a very Afrikaans family, who loved me & my family & willing & patiently taught us to speak Afrikaans. Today, thanks to them, we speak the language fluently. I love the Afrikaans people & even married an Afrikaans man, who was SO loving! Dieudonne' Joubert.
I have to agree with you. Having watched numerous interviews of Elon and Kimbal discuss the hatred, violence, etc, they claim to have lived through In SA, I find to be highly dramatised and frankly offensive.
Whilst I admire their achievements, I do not respect their narrative on SA. Especially as neither did the required compulsory military training back in the day. If you want to talk about psychological damage, we can start there.
I was Also born and raised in Natal and NEVER experienced this 'hatred' between English/Afrikaans when moving to the then Transvaal. In fact, quite the opposite.
Agree with you guys. I've lived in JHB, Durban and Cape Town and the lingering hatred between races that he refers to does not exist. Yes, there are racists in very race group in South Africa, and everyone here has probably experienced more racial hatred and injustice than anyone else on the planet, but there is not a constant, lingering hatred between race groups. For the most part we see each other, and relate to each other as South Africans.
@@rorybouffe6314 In fact, I would say quite confidently that it is indeed America who has a serious race issue. These things play out the world over, but this constant gross over exaggeration by the Musk brothers, must be challenged.
With all due respect, it was different for men. There is no comparison.
So.....are you saying Nelson Mandela is a liar and doesn't know what he is talking about??
Their father was a horrible man. He should be in jail
Did you know him or have you heard his point of view?
LOL. His point of view on abusing his sons?? Maybe you should do some more research on his father. Google and law records are free. If you protect abusers just say that
@@Maetaaaaaa What are you on about? public records of abuse to his kids? Stop making things up. I cannot engage with a dishonest individual. Do not bother with a response except with an actual document.
Sounds like he had or has a personality disorder or schizophrenic. Definitely sounds like he has some lose screws to say the least.
And yet I've just watched an interview with Errol (Elon's dad) saying he's about to go for dinner with Elon and pretends like he knows nothing at all and has no clue what anyone is talking about. According to him, things with him and Elon have always been good. Make it make sense.
Thank you for sharing. I hope it was healing for many.
So sad… very thankful you all survived the torture and pain 🙏🏻♥️
This is a testament to people who lived through childhood trauma and violence. Elon became the most successful man in the world. A true inspiration for others unsure if they're worthy. There are countless Elon's around the world.
That’s you and many others, then there’s those of us who shut down and dissociate. Trauma responses are pretty individual from my experience, although there are patterns. I’ve responded both ways under terrifying experiences. He also said he doesn’t remember what he did. ❤️
They seemed to have had a nice mother.
It's confusing to hear that someone was being beaten to death without understanding why
These statements are not credible. There is something about Mask brothers that doesn't make sense.
Bullying.
was Elon doing the bullying or was he being bullied?@@selmahare
Human nature
Holy hell. I grew up and still live in South Africa. And yes, we have our problems, but if you want to see our true spirit, come talk to us. Most of us love this country fiercely.
I do not know where he grew up, but we were walking to town and home in the middle of the night, in groups, we were on trains as teenagers all alone, we slept with unlocked doors in the 80's. No problems.
And yes, our country has changed, but our spirit have not. We are truly a special nation, diverse, weird, lovely, passionate, friendly.
Our problems have in the past ánd present been the making of politicians.
I am also Afrikaans speaking, and though my grandmother never liked to speak English due to the fact that the English put Afrikaners in consentration camps 1899-1902, she tried her level best to teach jy English boyfriend, back in the 80's some Afrikaans words. No one in my family abused the guy for being a different language.
I am sorry they had a really tough time, but SA was and is a very very special place.
My younger brother got jumped in town by a group of men. When I found out , it put me into a rage. If I was there I can guarantee I'd be fighting for my brother even if the odds are heavily stacked against us. We go down together. ❤
As a South African, I was unaware that I have been living in the Twilight Zone all these years. Seriously Kimbal?
Me too, i grew up in 80’s SA, or so I thought… don’t know which SA I was in , cause its not the same as his SA. Utter bull !!
I grew up in the 80's too, and I was thinking, 'Where the hell was I during all the white on white violence'! My mom's family is English, my dad's is Afrikaans, and it didn't make a difference in anything other than the language we spoke at lunch!
Liar pants on fire. Note he never tells exactly where it happened.
There can be gaps, pieces missing, from a memory because of trauma
I’m from Canada and I’m just terrified of South Africa. I love the people it’s just that I can tell that there’s some serious disturbance there.
I find it strange that he did nothing to defend his brother, he also does not state why the boys fought with his brother.
Lots of kids have suffered similarly. I had my own SouthAfrican-like microcosm and at age 59 just starting to come to terms with it. CPTSD because of malicious dysfunctional environs throughout my childhood…and disappointed I was hamstrung from the start. It all stems from extremism, which is why many of us (and Elon) are humanists, desperate to see a better humanity.
Yes..he is such a humanitarian,he’s supplying all the brain chips to be used on the rest of humanity
He is just helping the FEW
If someone started beating my brother, nothing could stop me from protecting him (and I am a 56 year old female). Not now and not ever. I would rather be beat up or dead than alive or unharmed but knowing that I did not protect him. Not judging - do not know the whole story and was never in that situation - but saying.
yeah that's the trauma is living with...
Damn, today I got introduced to two people I want to know better: Kimbal Musk and Graham Bensinger. Hard to believe you're both new to me.
The owner and creatir of one if the top 10 construction companies in America was routinely beaten by his father as a child. He left home at age 12 and grew up on the streets. Yet he is a kind and compassionate man with extraordinary organizational skills and vision.
Interesting and understandable interview. Thank you for your openness on family dynamics, that takes courage and honest reflection. prayers for you and all others going through familial hard times.
How can a brother let another brother get beat up without trying to help
fear
@@squfucs There is no such a thing as fear when it comes to your siblings. You die for your siblings, and you kill too if it has to come to that. I’m a woman and I would have taken those punches for my brother or my sister, and maybe even killed one before they killed me. I try not to judge, because everybody is different, but I am just saying how it would go with me.
@@selmahare nobody asked
@@selmahare I agree with you. I wish he had expressed some type of regret for not jumping in. Because it doesn't matter that you can't win--you fight to make it that much harder for *them* to win. To make it that much more costly for them to ever try again.
But Elon was the older brother (barely--less than a year apart). And I think there are a lot of younger siblings who don't feel a sense of agency when it comes to the older siblings--they don't feel protective of them because the entire perspective is foreign. And it can take a very long time to adjust that mentality.
Ask my brother.
Probably many reasons.
Avoiding conflict for themselves as long as you’re the target.
They harbour resentment and dehumanise you in the process.
They lack empathy.
This is why Elon was attracted to crazy Amber Heard
Her physical looks are what attracted him, and notable others.
This aged well.. guess who she's with now.. Aquaman aka Jason mamoa
What's wrong w Jason's mamoas
brain
What horrible stories....I'm happy they left that place. America is very fortunate to have Elon here.
That beating must have caused permanent damage. Sad.
south africa beautiful country but had some really evil people back in the days after 6pm you better be home if you love your life
You should see the hell hole it is now.
That’s too bad these guys had to go through this. I have the same trauma from my parents, and now my husband. Sometimes things were awesome, but he could just go on and on and on arguing with me or my girls. Nobody got out without a berating. All three of my girls have anxiety, depression, and even some rage if things get overwhelming. I started therapy and am about to learn to forgive, but I will never be able to be in a relationship where I can just let go and trust completely. If I stay or If I go. 😢 And if someone has this you have to be careful you don’t develop trauma bonds in your next relationship. You have to know upfront that you both continue therapy in some form. It’s chronic. 😊
Learning to understand narcissistic abuse is very helpful. Lots of RUclips videos about it.
"They are going to get therapy for something. I'm not trying to be perfect." LOL
As a South African, I'm going to need receipts for most of what this guy is saying.
???
Every one's life experience of the same place is different.
childhood violence is so common its staggering....as normal.....i know because i grew up that way
Calm, stable parenting is so important. Children feel like they're free falling ..when we blow our cool. This is where the falling dreams are born. We all mess up sometimes..but what their Dad was doing was showing them that they were not safe because he provided no safety...the #1 job of every parent! Parents...be the lifeboat for your children not the storm!
4:18 omg that’s heartbreaking!! Poor Elon! 💔😭😭😭😭 I would have lost it if that were my son!
Jesus' love was the only way I could heal from childhood trauma and it took time and coupled with the right counseling. Praying for both of them❤
Well, at least now with black rule, South Africa has really turned around and is a virtual paradise now 🙄
Love your sarcasm.
Yes its a veritable gangsters paradise now. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lol
Where even more people are poor.
To say “black rule” is to imply that all blacks are in “oneness” in South Africa. Kimbal explained that there is a history of multiethnic tribes. Africans share a commonality of skin color not everything else that make us human. Your incorrect language hints at old prejudices that to be black is to be incapable of self rule. World history teaches us human existence is complicated. The World Wars of the twentieth century are a tragic record of mass destruction of mostly whites mass murdering whites; it is unwise to think oneself superior. Sadly, we are equal in our potential to be divisive and barbaric.
I can't believe that Kimbal did not come to help Elon in the fight 🤢
Kudos to their mum for teaching them how to be strong, resilient and becoming the best versions of themselves. The whole family is very intelligent, kind and successful, a true inspiration ❤
I'm a white South African. Not sure what this man gets from telling blatant lies about the country. Perhaps just wants to sound like the man having gone through all these "dangerous" experiences. Kind of like a kid exaggerating stories to sound cool to his friends? I'm definitely not condoning bullying but the exaggeration and animated language casts considerable doubt on what he says. Who knows, maybe a case of childhood memories becoming warped over time. South Africa is an incredible country filled with natural beauty and mainly wonderful, friendly people.
Exactly😂 I travelled on the same busroute that passed his school in Pretoria and never ever did the schoolkids fight, it was a decent neighbourhood
How could a brother NOT defend his Brother... this makes no sense....😳
Probably paralyzed with fear
What a traumatic experience! Your father has gone through an extreme adjustment for the good.
All countries have their difficulties. It does not matter. It is brain washed in the youths heads today. No one can move forward if no one let's go and moves forward with respect / not bring hate. As a south African . It depends on you to make the change.
OMG.. He is so much like Elon, what a great brother.
As someone born in Jhb the same year as Elon (who was born in Pretoria) I don't fully resonate with what is said here about white on white violence. I think individual experiences differ. The attack on Elon that is mentioned took place at his school (not in the street). I never saw anything like that despite having lived there for 30 years. I lived in a farily Afrikaans area of Jhb (Linden) but did not see any real issues short of teasing which went both ways. Again, I'm not saying this is made up but rather that it was not my experience as a white English speaking South African. Maybe Pretoria was much different?!?
@@kerenvandyk3154fair enough that drunk guys get into fights but I'm referring more specifically to 0:46 where Kimbal says "There are 2 white tribes, Afrikaans and English, and they hate each other more than the black on white situation". That is the context in which he then goes on to speak of white on white violence. I really don't believe this reflects how things were (or are ). Again, Pretoria might be different but that is not my experience or any other White South African's that I know and I have friends (both English and Afrikaans) from all over the country.
@@jefftowell6139I think Elon is the type of person who will say stuff to people to piss them off and he most likely said to the Afrikaner you are stupid. I am also not sure about all of the violence this guy is talking about. My mother took the train into Cape Town CBD and she was never in any danger. People did not lock their houses or had any burglar bars (we grew up in a small town).
I had a friend who was a Dutch africaans, and he told me they hate the other white africaans with a vengeance, and beat them up at every opportunity. There's good and bad everywhere in the world. Kimbal's experience was just that - HIS experience, and no one can deny that.
@@jefftowell6139
I think he’s just trying to appease people watching by villainizing Wh•tes, despite the fact that anyone with a brain knows the bl•ck on Wh•te violence in SA, (or anywhere for that matter) is completely out of control.
What he describes is what is was with me and my father and it's so confusing to grow up with. Bitter, but affirming to hear someone else say they went through this too
🇿🇦 This is humbling to hear. We grew up in such a violent culture, accepting horrific displays of violence as normal, on my way to school days. I saw my first dismembered body at an early age with more to follow. Quite normal for our area.
I cut ties too and protected my children. Those older generation’s destroyed their own seeds with violence, jealousy and hatred then called it religion. 😢 Never once even considering their fellow man. Who would miss that??
*I love the (blue) The Shining carpet pattern on the wall.*
Why is there overlook carpet on the walls?
Lol, not to take away from his experiences but he exaggerates quite a bit I'm afraid. I traveled on trains up until the late 80s in SA and I never saw any violence on the trains I used. If you mix with the wrong strata of society going to places where angels fear to tread you will experience the same anywhere else in the world including America. Of course after the ANC came into power it became too dangerous to use trains anymore pretty much like it did in some places in the States I assume?
I think so
I live in South Africa and he has a very warped perspective and sad to see how he portrays our country. Dramastised Hollywood version.
So not true, the English/Afrikaans hate is not everywhere, what they went through is not indicative are rare occurrences. I am by no means minimising his memory, but as the queen said recollections may vary.
Awful 😢to hear childhood trauma goes with you well into adulthood must get therapy I’m sad to hear this 😢
You could really see the strong musk gene here
Remember these stories...as you hear Americans, say how much they hate Elon Musk.
When I hear these stories it makes me think how much Elon appears to be like his father. His brother seems to be much nicer of a human being.
@@pageek3487 I suspect this is one reason he was bullied as a child...
"Elon Musk opened up on Thursday about his experience growing up with Asperger's syndrome, or autism spectrum disorder." - AXIOS
Young people have compassion for the wrong things. And it's fake compassion. Lip service.
@@sportsman4545 Yes, and the other problem is "young people" used to mean kids/teens, then college students, but now it can be way past college. As more of us want to be "kids" practically till our 30s. Many only learn what real compassion is, until we become adults, and with that happening later and later...many people can't see the truth till much later in life. Till then it is just...lip service.
For the record, as an American, I DO NOT hate Elon Musk. I DO NOT hate anyone.
In the eighties it was not like that. Where in South Africa did they live? Next to Eugene Terreblanch compound?
He was in Pretoria in primary school, one of the best expensive semi private schools I drove past that school to work and my neighbour who is English taught there..I am Afrikaans and we were friends😊 he is talking nonsense