BUSTED! What the INSIDE of a Briggs and Stratton 12.5 HP FLATHEAD engine looks like after NO OIL !!

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  • BUSTED! CAUTION: MAJOR ENGINE DAMAGE SHOWN! What the INSIDE of a Briggs and Stratton 12.5 HP FLATHEAD Powerbuilt cast iron sleeve engine looks like after RUNNING OUT OF OIL !! How to take apart a FLATHEAD motor. Removing the FLYWHEEL WITHOUT using Special tools! More of Jeff's TECH tips! Crankshaft cam tappets piston rings lifters blown broke broken rod gear valves vertical shaft flywheel remove Enjoy friends! Procedure FIX REPAIR remove new part stens which way take put off on rebuild test inspect check filter use special tool kit same as Husqvarna Husky John Jon Deere Deer Craftsman Poulan Yard Machines Scott's Scotts Cub Cadet Toro troy-bilt troybilt Troybuilt troy built bilt Ariens Jonsered Gravely Snapper Hayter Lawnboy Mountfield lowes home depot walmart seafoam grip tools will it run rebuild junkyard lawn mower
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  • @dalemihocik4732
    @dalemihocik4732 2 года назад +8

    Here's a tip for you and all viewers. The use of the proper tools increases the margin of not having a physical accident exponentially. A walk back to the tool shed for the needed tool sure beats a trip to the ER.

    • @JeffsLittleEngineService
      @JeffsLittleEngineService  2 года назад +3

      YES! using the right tool is safer and usually easier

    • @brianjohnson3414
      @brianjohnson3414 2 года назад +1

      i was thinking the same thing

    • @timothysmith7436
      @timothysmith7436 9 месяцев назад +1

      Also, proper footwear is recommended. Drop that on your toes and you’d be done for the day

  • @robertthomas5906
    @robertthomas5906 4 года назад +8

    Had a generator that was for sale, $50 with the same problem. B&S engine. No oil. Crank was fine. New rod, piston, rings, scrapped the aluminum off the crank and she was within 1/2 of a thousands to factory - so to spec still. I think it was $75 worth of parts and the generator still runs today. I've had it for probably 15 years. Maybe more like 20.

  • @pville5548
    @pville5548 4 года назад +9

    Jeff, we want to see you clean it up, buy a new rod and crank if really needed and put that sucker back together. Don't let that beauty go to the scrap yard.

    • @JeffsLittleEngineService
      @JeffsLittleEngineService  4 года назад

      I will think about that I hope someone buys it from me to rebuild. Thanks for watching

    • @johnhershey4010
      @johnhershey4010 4 года назад

      I agree

    • @benmoen
      @benmoen 2 года назад +1

      @@JeffsLittleEngineService I know this is old but did you ever get this old girl going again?

    • @mickblackman9029
      @mickblackman9029 Год назад

      Don’t suppose you still have this for sale by any chance ?

  • @j.j.s.6736
    @j.j.s.6736 Месяц назад

    Safety first Amigo. A friend of mine had his foot amputated above his ankle one day after being bitten by a spider because of using sandals doing similar work on a flower patch.

  • @felixmadison5736
    @felixmadison5736 Год назад +2

    Exactly the same B&S engine that is on my 2009 MTD Lawn Tractor. A very good engine if taken care of.

  • @paulg444
    @paulg444 Год назад +2

    He knows his stuff..but i would certainly reuse that cam.

  • @REVNUMANEWBERN
    @REVNUMANEWBERN 2 года назад +3

    EXACTLY the way to do it with flip flops on and a weak plastic work table

  • @Mr_Tecumseh
    @Mr_Tecumseh 4 года назад +7

    One thing I noticed immediately was the oil drain plug on the side was missing, maybe it got unscrewed somehow while the engine was running and all the oil came out of it and blew the engine. But it can't hold oil without the oil plug. Like you said about the only thing that takes those engines out is no or low oil, it's rare too see one of those blown. They will start the smoking over time from years and years of use, like 25-30 years, but I rarely ever see one of those blown. Those were some of the best engines Briggs ever built it was during their heyday.

    • @johnhershey4010
      @johnhershey4010 4 года назад

      Is that the truth

    • @mateobrainardo4770
      @mateobrainardo4770 2 года назад

      Hehday. Hay day.
      Tomato towmahto.
      I say POS.

    • @Mr_Tecumseh
      @Mr_Tecumseh 2 года назад +2

      @@mateobrainardo4770 This definitely isn't your field of expertise, because no with any knowledge of small power equipment has ever called the 465cc Briggs L head a pos, not in the 10 years I've been working on this stuff steadily, your the first and you don't know what your talking about. Ask anyone with any real knowledge, they will tell you the same thing. I have more of those L heads outrunning the new 540cc pos Briggs 3x over, you get 25 years out of those engines easily, they normally outlast the machines their sitting on. I can't even count the amount of machines that had blown 540cc motors that ended up with those L heads transplanted and putting the machines back out to service. My personal machine is a '95 with the that engine, I'll never get rid of it, love that engine. I never have to worry about valve lash either, maybe once every 20 years. The new ones have tons of issues those old ones never had, the compression release fails on the regular, it never fails on those. I love those new engines, they break so often I end up with tons of nice, newer machinery for free and if the engine can't be fixed, I throw one of them flatheads on and out it goes, making it an overall better machine.Those, the opposed twins and the Quantums 1984-2003, the hey day. 🍅.
      Now is Towmahto. Theirs a huge difference trust us.

  • @kennycybertron1
    @kennycybertron1 4 года назад +3

    "Repairs from the Patch".....This is why I subscribed...JEFF IS FEARLESS !!! KEEP 'EM COMING

  • @georgestrickland9278
    @georgestrickland9278 4 года назад +3

    one tough engine,oil drain plug fell out on me while bench testing,locked up,let it cool,broke it loose and it still ran fine

  • @williamsantiago7303
    @williamsantiago7303 3 месяца назад +1

    The way you said "no oil" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. Great video, buddy. Very informative. 👍

  • @Dickusification
    @Dickusification Год назад +2

    I found a classic 35 Briggs mower by side of road. No oil in it. Snapped rod. Will put a new rod and a ring kit to get it running hopefully

  • @Tractors101
    @Tractors101 4 года назад +3

    One other thing that can break one of those engines is a bent crankshaft. Don't know how it happens or why but it happened to my 12 hp engine. Still runs, but shakes pretty bad. No, it isn't the flywheel I've already checked. Fortunately I have a spare of the same engine so just gotta finish the engine swap.

  • @David-yy7lb
    @David-yy7lb 4 месяца назад +1

    I have a 97 Yard Machine MTD riding mower with that same original engine and I still use it to mower my 2 acres with it no knocking or smoking

  • @BigOvlogger
    @BigOvlogger Год назад +2

    I really enjoyed the video. It is simply straight-forward and well explained step-by-step. I subbed. Two thumbs up from Kingsport, Tennessee!

  • @osbornebay944
    @osbornebay944 3 года назад +1

    I just redone a 12hp I/C flat head, broken rod, the crank journal is 1.2470, after clean up the alum smears. a new rod outer is 1.2450 , 3 mil over when cold.

  • @victoryfirst2878
    @victoryfirst2878 4 года назад +1

    The number of engines that die because of no oil is just crazy high. Then these engines are parted out to screw over the next person by association. This is the way it is Jeff. The number of times I have been asked to check an engine out and tell the owner of shady maintenance only to be told I do not know what I am talking about. My response is WHY DID YOU ASK ME TO BEGIN WITH ????. They must think I have a magic wand which I do not. Nice showing.

  • @gregoryjeanson3207
    @gregoryjeanson3207 2 года назад +2

    Jeff's - I'm surprised that you didn't try a little Hydrochloric acid soak on the crankshaft journal for the connecting rod. You're likely to find that the grooves and scars on the crankshaft are actually built up aluminum from the connecting rod and yoke. Boric acid eats up the aluminum and can leave you a nice, shiny journal to replace the connecting rod before you go chasing a new crankshaft or block. Saved many a scary looking motor this way...

    • @JeffsLittleEngineService
      @JeffsLittleEngineService  2 года назад

      check it out Greg I made a video! Thanks for watching! ruclips.net/video/mcp2dfbZ5U4/видео.html

  • @robertbowman3406
    @robertbowman3406 2 года назад +2

    Here is a suggestion. Buy a good 1/2" drive tool set with a breaker bar. Start the tear down with removing the cylinder head first and go from there. The previous owner never knew what an oil change was for after seeing this mess.

  • @thebackwoodsboysgarage9144
    @thebackwoodsboysgarage9144 3 года назад +1

    I got a Briggs & Stratton 12hp flat head engine just like it but mine had a wore out piston and it was smokin like crazy so took it off the Murray and repowered it with a Briggs & Stratton 14.5hp ohv engine

  • @Goomer
    @Goomer 4 года назад +2

    Same engine I have in my old Craftsman Tractor. Might save that crank iby soaking it in Muriatic acid and the aluminum off. I've done it before. I beat a new rod and it will run.

  • @flatstheflounder9874
    @flatstheflounder9874 3 года назад +1

    That's what's important the Cast iron Sleeve most Engines today are not and they self destruct quickly personally I love the Kohler KT725 22 horsepower V Twin Engine (725 cc)

  • @Shawnee.Hills.Small.Engine
    @Shawnee.Hills.Small.Engine 4 года назад +4

    Love those Briggs Flatheads!

  • @lynnstewart5803
    @lynnstewart5803 4 года назад +3

    Excellent video.Keep the good work. Love your running commentary.

  • @paolomaini2178
    @paolomaini2178 3 года назад +1

    Video istruttivi. Complimenti..!👍
    Qui' in Italia su' you Tube non spiegano niente sui motori Briggs&stratton.. per non parlare dei ricambi dai costi esorbitanti.. saluti da Parma..

  • @seamadge
    @seamadge 3 года назад +1

    I'm currently reviving a flathead! That flywheel bolt is 15/16.

  • @robertmailhos8159
    @robertmailhos8159 4 года назад +6

    Okay whol,s been cutting onions 😭 that break,s my heart 💓 to see how it goes with a engine that was not care,d about

  • @BushcraftingBogan
    @BushcraftingBogan 4 года назад +3

    I’ve never used a puller. Always went “old school” with a long screw driver and a 2.5 lb ball peen hammer. Never failed.

    • @dkeith45
      @dkeith45 4 года назад

      Jeff shows just that at the fourteen thirty mark.

    • @mintip1957
      @mintip1957 3 года назад

      @@dkeith45 easier to make a basic puller from piece of old iron bedstead angle iron cut to 6 inches long with two holes drilled in to match flywheel distance, the sump cover bolts fit the flywheel thread. Just put an old socket into the top recess where the 24mm bolt goes and tighten down. Piece of cake !! no hammers, no damage.. Cheers.. Great video there. Just have to get a new conrod (bad oil day !!).. bang !! lostinfrance.

  • @mjg263
    @mjg263 4 года назад +5

    Loved it, a rare Briggs flathead fail!

  • @brianandrews7099
    @brianandrews7099 3 года назад +3

    2 lesson from this video: 1. Always remember to check your oil. 2. Milk crates make bad work benches.

  • @russb3816
    @russb3816 4 года назад +2

    Is it worth it to get a new crank rod piston and rings and revive it. Just wondering. I love your demeanor, you always sound so calm. Love your channel.

    • @JeffsLittleEngineService
      @JeffsLittleEngineService  4 года назад

      Thanks for watching. Unfortunately I don't think it would be worth it in my opinion

    • @banjobenson9348
      @banjobenson9348 3 года назад

      @@JeffsLittleEngineService piston, rings ,gasgets are 109 on ebay

  • @mikesbarn1858
    @mikesbarn1858 4 года назад +4

    Noooo. We can still save it. CLEAR. Zap!

  • @vincentrobinette1507
    @vincentrobinette1507 4 года назад +2

    Oil: An engine's best friend! This is sad, because those synchro-balanced engines are a rare breed. I don't know if Briggs & Stratton even makes those anymore. Briggs & Stratton have largely transitioned to over head valve engines, but I don't know, if they make a synchro-balanced version with OHV. If they do, I'm their next customer! (I would love to find a horizontal shaft engine with this feature, for a smoother running generator)

    • @engineshorts7105
      @engineshorts7105 3 года назад +1

      Do they still make flathead engines?

    • @joshmanis9860
      @joshmanis9860 Год назад

      all intek single cylinders are syncro balanced and they love to blow the block out

  • @sakuradev2130
    @sakuradev2130 3 года назад +2

    At least the sump bolts were tight on yours,mine were loose and was part of why it blew up in the first place

  • @mickblackman9029
    @mickblackman9029 Год назад +1

    Don’t suppose you still have this for sale by any chance?

    • @JeffsLittleEngineService
      @JeffsLittleEngineService  Год назад

      Yes, sadly it is still sitting in a box with new replacement parts waiting to be fixed... I am located near Portland, Oregon

  • @lestergillis8171
    @lestergillis8171 3 года назад +1

    Very fine!
    I'll give you "a-buck-two-ninety-eight" for all the serviceable parts.

  • @jamiewoki
    @jamiewoki 3 года назад +1

    Awesome video, now I know whats inside. Thank you for posting !!! LOL plastic crate work bench.. 8-)

  • @jefferykirby934
    @jefferykirby934 3 месяца назад +1

    I MADE ME A PULL HANDLE TO GO ON THE RATCHET OUT OF A SHAFT FROM A WEED EATER WORKS GREAT. TIP 1

  • @adamreay1023
    @adamreay1023 Год назад +1

    Tech tip#1 how to break a half inch rachet by hitting with a mallet

  • @sgtJOOSEcapeS
    @sgtJOOSEcapeS 3 года назад +1

    GOOD Ole crates best friend to ah man's life lol

  • @faceman8893
    @faceman8893 2 года назад +1

    From what I understand this engine is not worth rebuilding?

  • @littlemansingleton8392
    @littlemansingleton8392 2 года назад +1

    Thinks for the info

  • @hunter7476
    @hunter7476 4 года назад +2

    I have the same one except my carburetor is rusted and will not run

    • @JeffsLittleEngineService
      @JeffsLittleEngineService  4 года назад

      A new oem carb is apx $100

    • @Tractors101
      @Tractors101 4 года назад

      Can get a cheaper Chinese made one from Amazon, probably in the range of 15-25 bucks. Not OEM, but will work fine. Bought one for my Cub Cadet 107 kohler engine, and it works fine. However make sure you look up the part number for your carb and not mine or his, they are all different.

  • @jeffrobison2013
    @jeffrobison2013 4 года назад +1

    a guy was gonna show me one time how to remove the flywheel bolt. did it just like you did except when the ratchet spun around it came off and hit him right in the lip

  • @KinGzeDK
    @KinGzeDK 3 года назад +1

    what would happen if you just replaced the rod and reassembled the engine as is?

  • @pjetenere1
    @pjetenere1 2 года назад +2

    I wouldnt let you work on my wheelbarrow
    (the fly wheel bolt is 15/16,, not 24mm)

  • @65Pontiac389
    @65Pontiac389 3 года назад +1

    I had a chimney fall on my 12.5and she still runs like a butey thay the tank of lawnmower engine's

  • @king49334
    @king49334 4 года назад +3

    Lot of engine is destroy by people not checking oil before use

  • @lestergillis8171
    @lestergillis8171 3 года назад +2

    Looks like a case of owner/operator
    neglect/abuse.

  • @hunter7476
    @hunter7476 4 года назад +4

    Save the starter carburetor coil and air filter box the shroud and the muffler and I would scrap it

    • @BushcraftingBogan
      @BushcraftingBogan 4 года назад +1

      Yep. It’s what I call an Organ Donor. .

    • @dumpgodby1874
      @dumpgodby1874 4 года назад +1

      Yep.. what did it come off of that Snapper rer

    • @JeffsLittleEngineService
      @JeffsLittleEngineService  4 года назад

      It came off a different Rear engine Snapper than the one I made the video about

  • @gamingshawn7716
    @gamingshawn7716 3 года назад +1

    Can I have the intake valve

  • @CHIBA280CRV
    @CHIBA280CRV 4 года назад +1

    Hey Jeff your sure that’s not just aluminum from the piston rod stuck on the crank and not gouging ? I had the same issue on my honda engine crank, and I just took muriatic acid and wiped it on , and it ate all the aluminum off leaving a small,amount of wet sanding after.. it it was back to a smooth surface.. tell them you learned it from me ! Tip # 00001

  • @hunter7476
    @hunter7476 4 года назад +2

    And the flywheel if it’s good

  • @perrydegonia5755
    @perrydegonia5755 3 года назад +1

    Oh yeah it’s coming loose Jeff so now what bigger hammer

  • @banjobenson9348
    @banjobenson9348 3 года назад

    I still have the mower deck on and am trying to get the two lower pulleys off, no bolt on the bottom and suggestions, thanks

  • @annierenard5954
    @annierenard5954 4 года назад +2

    always interesting those horror videos

  • @isellfoodstampz
    @isellfoodstampz 4 года назад +3

    save that alternator

  • @rayburnett3253
    @rayburnett3253 3 года назад +2

    Hey Jeff, did you know that there's soap and water to clean up your hands?? Ha ha

  • @harveysmidlap
    @harveysmidlap 2 года назад +1

    Sheesh, I watched the whole video and you didn't knock over the oil drain bowl...

  • @kussifury
    @kussifury 4 года назад +1

    very high RPM

  • @DATSUN72067
    @DATSUN72067 4 года назад +1

    Can I buy that motor

  • @dukesworld3020
    @dukesworld3020 4 года назад +3

    You get oil in those flowers and the wife just might shoot you.LOL, I bet you could just buff it out!!! Good video.

  • @erswnn
    @erswnn 2 года назад +1

    Um......your choice of work bench leaves me wondering.......
    Um....why not just use a puller? The time it takes to do it the wrong way will never make up for the time it takes to do it right. Using a pry bar against parts never intended to handle the force, well yeah, what could go wrong?
    Love the pan full of oil under the...um, er....workbench. Again, what could go wrong?
    I appreciate a video showing information but can't understand bad planning or sloppy methods.

    • @JeffsLittleEngineService
      @JeffsLittleEngineService  2 года назад

      If you can work on an engine in a flower bed you can work on an engine anywhere......

  • @somerandomguy3868
    @somerandomguy3868 4 года назад +2

    For sale, I guess some of it is still good

  • @mr1pearl
    @mr1pearl 4 года назад

    Hey Jeff where do I get this book on tech tips?

  • @johnhershey4010
    @johnhershey4010 4 года назад +1

    How much you saleing it for

  • @jimmysmith4552
    @jimmysmith4552 4 года назад

    Where did the rest of the rod go?

  • @lestergillis8171
    @lestergillis8171 3 года назад

    You're about to give that engiine a "wedgie".

  • @lestergillis8171
    @lestergillis8171 3 года назад +1

    Assumption is: The crankshaft is no good.

    • @JeffsLittleEngineService
      @JeffsLittleEngineService  3 года назад

      Yes, however I am currently making a video on using muriatic acid to clean the crankshaft journal of the melted on aluminum bits. The crankshaft may be reuseable after all! Stay tuned

  • @danielauen7790
    @danielauen7790 3 года назад +1

    For sale? Would you take $12.50?

    • @JeffsLittleEngineService
      @JeffsLittleEngineService  3 года назад +1

      nope. lol

    • @danielauen7790
      @danielauen7790 3 года назад

      @@JeffsLittleEngineService Worth a shot lol, back to looking into rebuilding mine! I think its a valve issue. Never rebuilt an engine before, So this is going to be quite a learning experiance.

    • @mateobrainardo4770
      @mateobrainardo4770 2 года назад

      That’s like A DOLLAR an HOUR!
      -Napoleon 🧨 Dynamite

  • @rickfordv8
    @rickfordv8 3 года назад +1

    Would have been watchable without the retro editing. Keep it simple dude. Very informative.

  • @miguelangelvalderrama1808
    @miguelangelvalderrama1808 3 года назад +1

    Just buy a new rod and a piston with rings, that should be it.

  • @phouvongsikhounmuong2668
    @phouvongsikhounmuong2668 3 года назад +1

    Jeff, that’s 28m707-0122 I may be able to use some of the parts. Please let me know thanks

  • @chriseller9030
    @chriseller9030 2 года назад +1

    put your purse down and hit it like you mean it

  • @anselb2000
    @anselb2000 4 года назад +3

    Who cares about the flower patch? Get things up on a table so we can see what is going on!

  • @voya8480
    @voya8480 3 года назад +2

    NEVER wack the ratchet! NEVER!

  • @chugalongway01
    @chugalongway01 4 года назад

    I missed tech tips 278 - 567 984,
    can you list them?
    Thanks

  • @pkey749
    @pkey749 Год назад

    Mouse nest took mine out.

  • @derekobidowski3301
    @derekobidowski3301 3 года назад +1

    thats no good it was a quality engine Briggs and Stratton made before they went to crap today. as the flathead engines are no longer available that you Must go with a modern OHV engine. in whost cases besides a thrown rod the counterbalance weight breaks and goes through the back of the case as Briggs & Stratton calls it the syncro balance. but same with Kohler the engines are getting worse.

  • @tombarlow6176
    @tombarlow6176 2 года назад +1

    Get yourself a workbench for good nes sake

  • @DATSUN72067
    @DATSUN72067 4 года назад +1

    25$

  • @dieselbronco9247
    @dieselbronco9247 4 года назад +3

    Too bad you are probably on the opposite end of the world from me I have a greasy old 12.5 briggs that could be revived with most of that one.

  • @apexalpha4947
    @apexalpha4947 2 года назад

    Why do these posts keep getting deleted??? I'll try ONE Last Time>>> $9.08 Basic Medical Nitrite Exam Gloves (X-Large) 1 Boxes 100 Gloves,Blue,****-7004.

  • @dylanphillips9745
    @dylanphillips9745 3 года назад +1

    The rods tend to break often

  • @crisprtalk6963
    @crisprtalk6963 4 года назад +1

    I like flowers.

  • @dumpgodby1874
    @dumpgodby1874 4 года назад +1

    Jeff put some fucking shoes on. Your gonna fuck your feet up and you will regret not taking care of feet. Feet take all the abuse you put on yourself. And you will be in pain like me. It sucks having hurting feet 24/7

  • @donwatson7485
    @donwatson7485 4 года назад +3

    Gee tool supporter guy all the teeth are broken in my ratchet don't know why gimmie a new one

    • @donwatson7485
      @donwatson7485 4 года назад

      Report tool abuse it could save a life!

  • @shaneorndorff452
    @shaneorndorff452 2 года назад +1

    nice milk crate

  • @juhajuntunen7866
    @juhajuntunen7866 Год назад +1

    Interesting failure, my lawn mover did same, but worse, camsaft try to eat those loosened parts, its bearings broke and saft itself twisted. Is this design failure because I have it filled with oil to mark? Those aluminium bearings are dirt cheap to make but really bad, shame on you B&S!

    • @JeffsLittleEngineService
      @JeffsLittleEngineService  Год назад

      If there is overflow gas in your oil compartment from a flooded carb it may cause this

    • @juhajuntunen7866
      @juhajuntunen7866 Год назад

      @@JeffsLittleEngineService Yes, that is good point. Year ago I wonder why oil is over top mark. I change oil but maybe initial damage was done.