Walter Cronkite, "The 20th Century," 1962, "The Airport Jam."
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
- Legendary Columbia Broadcasting System (CBS) television reporter, Walter Cronkite, hosts "The 20th Century" documentary CBS TV program titled, "The Airport Jam." Mr. Cronkite looks into the issues that were facing airports and their surrounding communities during the early "jet age" years when the Boeing 707, Douglas DC-8 and other new jetliners were beginning to dominate the airline industry. Nice footage of these aircraft and others such as the propeller Lockheed Super Constellation and even a New York Airways Piasecki (Boeing Vertol) "Model 44" commuter-passenger helicopter. Oh yes, not to overlook that GM PD-4104 airport-intercity bus at the beginning!
Incredible that those engines got up to 17k pounds of thrust. Now the GE 90's on a 777 get around 100k pounds of thrust!!
...what's more amazing in spite of being more powerful they are much quieter than the turbo and fan jets of the 1960s. I was amazed that an aeroplane as large as a 747 cout was actually quieter particularly as it receded after takeoff than ay a much smaller 727 or DC-9. Today's jets like the the 777 and A-380 are even quieter than the first and second generation 747s.
Cronkite’s signature voice is always a pleasure
Indeed!
Growing up with Kronkite on the TV, it felt like we were getting "real" news as opposed to the highly slanted propaganda we are fed now.
Flying was even fun in the 70s as a child. As plane was getting to cruising altitude, pilots would allow us kids in cockpit and show us everything, including sitting in jumpseat the entire flight including takeoff and landing. Flight attendants were extremely nice and with great customer service whether in coach or 1st class.
This may sound unbelievable, but in 2000 I was able to jumpseat a landing into SYD on QANTAS just by asking (I was seated in business class). I was 27 at the time, and had jumpseated on a few private aircraft. The pilots were very friendly and engaging until we were on final. Of course, 9/11 ruined that possibility for any non-airline employee.
Thanks for recalling your experiences of getting a seat in the cockpit of an airliner decades ago. I too got to ride in the jump seat (at an older age) and experience the landing of a Faucett-Peru, Douglas DC-8 back in 1986. The fact that I held a private pilot's license helped me get this opportunity. Also spent about an hour in the jump seat of a SAHSA Lockheed L-188 Electra when I was 18 years old. That was back in 1976. Yeah, "those were the days."
Planes were really interesting back them. 747-100, 747-200, 747SP, 727-200, 737-200, 707, DC-10, DC-9, DC-8, L10-11 were all flying back them. Each was different in their own way. I flew them all except the DC-8.
Damn! This epoch was simply esthetically beautiful
I miss the voice of uncle Walter
The greatest jetliner ever.The plane that changed aviation in a way never thought possible.Instanly mase air travel THE way to go.Brought the world much closer together,and made travel possible for everyone.Great vid!
I gather you're referring to the Boeing 707?
@@WAL_DC-6B Yes!
Najeeb Halaby, the FAA administrator, was Queen Noor’s father! What a coincidence.
The King loved airplanes, especially when he was flying the airplane.
Am I the only one that realizes that at the time the security at airports was nothing more than a bag scanner and nothing else, people could just go and enjoy the views like a mall.
I don't recall even bag scanners being used in the early 1960s at commercial airports. You just bought your ticket, got on board and flew to your destination. Pretty much like going to the shopping mall today. Really no security to pass through. The only police you'd see at a major terminal like Chicago would be outside directing traffic.
I am older than all of you. The whole family walk to the gate. Zero security. Every man carried a pen knife. And everyone smoke cigarettes for the whole process.
Up until 9/11 anyone could get past security at the airport. Now only ticketed passengers are allowed.
all the metal detector stuff csme in the early 70s after all those "Take me to Cuba" hijackings.
Bag scanners were not invented in 1962.
...love the shot of people boarding a North Central Convair Metro near the end.
Speaking of trains to airport, that has been a recent trend with cities extending LRT and commuter rail lines to their airports. (Milwaukee' Wi even has an Amtrak station at its airport on the the line to Chicago). Cities in the rest of world have also extended rail connections to their airports including Tokyo, London (to Heathrow), Paris, Amsterdam, and Frankfurt just to name a few.
You're right, that is indeed a North Central Convair 340 or 440. Good spot! And that one shot was made at Chicago's Midway Airport based on the control tower in the background.
So 1960s... All the reinventing the wheel with airport express superhighways, monorails and mobile lounges as fantasy impractical solutions while dismissing the best & proven solution of taking the "old" train to the airport as shown with Gatwick
Decades after the DC Metro subway was developed, they built a spur to Washington International (Dulles--where the mobile lounges have been replaced)
EXACTLY!!!
I lived during those times and I did have a major complaint. Who wanted jets that didn't have propellers to watch? I was 5 year old.
60 years later and Manhattan to JFK is just as bad with no viable public transport option. Compare that to London where Heathrow now has three different rail lines plus buses.
I used to really love going right to the gate to welcome my loved one as soon as they stepped into the airport!!
Same with walking them to the gate to bid them goodbye
Walter just casually interviewing the Captain while the plane looks to be below 10,000 feet. No sterile cockpit rules back in 1962...
Saw a video of Arthur Godfrey Piloting a Constellation,and when they got to cruise altitude,the crew all lit up cigarettes!
Why would there be?? Hijackings wasn't a thing back then
Shot at New York Idlewild (IDL) airport in 1962
For the CBS program THE TWENTIETH CENTURY
In 1964 the name was changed to JFK.
The opening flight came from Toronto Malton, now Pearson (YYZ).
I've done the Gatwick to London, London (back) to Gatwick multiple times. Still a good service.
How 'bout the London to Heathrow service?
@@WAL_DC-6B Never used it. Sorry.
I remember as a kid in the late sixties (around ten years old) coming in for landing at JFK airport. Looking out the window you could see people barbecuing in their backyard and riding bikes in the street just a few hundred feet below. Wondered then how they coped with the terrible noise we made every minute or so, all day long. They wanted a nice home for their families and in order to do that they put up with it. Much better today (but probably still very annoying ) we can hope.
No yoga & sweat pants insight.
Most of the passengers were older ,mostly men, almost exclusively white people at the airport, except for the red caps and bus drivers Lots of things were different then.
The white zone is for loading and unloading. There is no stopping in the red zone
The red zone is for loading and unloading. There is no stopping in the white zone.
The white zone has always been for loading and unloading. There has never been stopping in the red zone.
Don't tell me which zone is for what!
"We know what this is really all about...you want me to have an abortion!"
@@tomservo56954It's really the only sensible thing to do, if its done properly. Therapeutically there's no danger involved. Don't start with your white zone shit again.
Airplane ✈️ thanks
@@gustavokennedy213 Airplane? What is it?
Airplane was so funny
thanks dan
The old long hall constellation was used for the shuttle by airlines. The use of jets for this wasnt till the late 60's.
Eastern's Shuttle indeed used Lockheed Super Constellations initially on this service (perhaps Douglas DC-7s as well). By early 1968 the Connies were only used as backup for Lockheed Electras or Boeing 727s.
That Pilot was straight-up BS Stonewalling Cronkite about jet engine noise. I'm Sure his Bosses told him to.
Actually, the newer Pratt & Whitney JT3D fanjet engines, as used on AA's Boeing 707s, indeed ran quieter than the original Pratt & Whitney JT3C-6 jet engines with the "daisy-pedestal" sound suppressors attached to the rear of those engines. In addition to the fanjet engines running quieter, they also provided more power thus making shorter takeoff runs and steeper takeoffs possible to further help eliminate jet noise when flying over residential areas.
@@WAL_DC-6B I can believe that. When Military jets came out, the pilots commented on how much quieter they were than the earlier, piston-engined models. I guess the only Really quiet plane would be a fuel-cell powered, electric model. There is actually an EV Quadcopter, that tops out at 150 mph, with a 12,000 foot ceiling, and 100 miles of range. I saw it at the Detroit auto show. That won't replace Jet Travel, though.
I lived right under the flight path at MSP (Minneapolis/St. Paul International) and absolutely agree. When I was a kid, we kept the windows open in summer. If we were talking at the kitchen table and a jet went over, all conversation would cease for at least a minute. But once Northwest Airlines exclusively flew fanjets, it reduced that "I can't hear you" time to around 15 seconds. Made a huge difference. @@WAL_DC-6B
...a comprehensive noise abatement policy was issued by the DOT and FAA in the 1970s but not enacted until 1980.
Ironic, flying was paradise in the '60s and '70s compared to the nightmare it is now.
If you consider this to be paradise back when there were the expensive seats (coach) and the REAL expensive seats (1st class) then indeed you're correct. Airline deregulation brought down airfares so the average person could travel by air.
@@WAL_DC-6Bwhat are you talking about. That dude paid $14.10 for a ticket. Even in 1962 that's cheap!
@@colinwinogradoff6794 Naa, $14.00 was still a fair amount of money in 1962. If it wasn't everyone would have been flying at that price back then. The first time I flew on an airliner was in 1973. It was a North Central Convair 580 round trip from Chicago - O'Hare to Milwaukee and back. Airfare at that time was $32.00 which seems cheap by today. However, I was making minimum wage which was $1.65 an hour. Took a bit of saving up to make that trip.
How is noise NOT a NUISANCE?!?
...not even a bag scanner. Nothing! Just get your boarding pass, go to the gate and away you go! Friendly agents and pretty stewardesses...purchase your ticket on board. What a concept!
Halebee ran pan am after Tripp to left
Most of those young house interviewed. Are probably deceased now.
November 2023. Same upheaval today…even worse…
Flying today means low middle class people traveling like sardines in a can, boarding in congested airports.
The well off and wealthy travel by high speed trains, a lot, a lot more expensive ride…
Writing from the other side of the pond, Europe.
It was deregulation of the airline industry in the United States in 1978 that made it possible for the middle class (and perhaps lower) to more easily afford to fly commercially. At least now many of the newer airliners have individual TV sets to help pass the time in those "sardine in a can" like seats (I just traveled on a BA A380 from Johannesburg to London (Heathrow) and I had a "sardine can" seat flying in steerage (lower deck in the back)).
Crazy, back then airport security was non existent. They designed around convenience . No a days, security trumps convenience . The terminal, concourse model, is the only way to move people in mass numbers. Separate terminals for each airline is not convenient. LAX seems to still be struggling with this outdated concept. They’re still trying to put together a hodgepodge of outdated terminals that don’t seem to connect well.
Yes, security wise, airports back in the early 1960s were much like their train station counterparts.
At least at LAX you can move between terminals without exiting security. At Idlewild (now known as JFK) you can’t.
The spate of airplane hijackings ended the practice of allowing passengers to board unmolested.
...Kansas city had a great concept with MCI airport as you could literally be driven right to where your gate was and walk no more than maybe 90 feet to check in and board your flight. Sadly that lasted less than a year as security checks became necessary du to the increase in hijackings.
Damn $14 for a ticket and treated like a human.
That's when $14.00 was a fair amount of money (1962).
Hahahahahaha-- 2023 I'm done
Can we resurrect the dead and show them 2067 --- ahhhhhh the noise blablabla