Walter Cronkite, "The 20th Century," 1962, "The Airport Jam."

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  • Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
  • Legendary Columbia Broadcasting System (CBS) television reporter, Walter Cronkite, hosts "The 20th Century" documentary CBS TV program titled, "The Airport Jam." Mr. Cronkite looks into the issues that were facing airports and their surrounding communities during the early "jet age" years when the Boeing 707, Douglas DC-8 and other new jetliners were beginning to dominate the airline industry. Nice footage of these aircraft and others such as the propeller Lockheed Super Constellation and even a New York Airways Piasecki (Boeing Vertol) "Model 44" commuter-passenger helicopter. Oh yes, not to overlook that GM PD-4104 airport-intercity bus at the beginning!

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  • @ericlindenmuth7517
    @ericlindenmuth7517 10 месяцев назад +18

    Incredible that those engines got up to 17k pounds of thrust. Now the GE 90's on a 777 get around 100k pounds of thrust!!

    • @bcshelby4926
      @bcshelby4926 9 месяцев назад +1

      ...what's more amazing in spite of being more powerful they are much quieter than the turbo and fan jets of the 1960s. I was amazed that an aeroplane as large as a 747 cout was actually quieter particularly as it receded after takeoff than ay a much smaller 727 or DC-9. Today's jets like the the 777 and A-380 are even quieter than the first and second generation 747s.

  • @stenic2
    @stenic2 9 месяцев назад +7

    Cronkite’s signature voice is always a pleasure

    • @WAL_DC-6B
      @WAL_DC-6B  9 месяцев назад

      Indeed!

    • @rhanemann9100
      @rhanemann9100 9 месяцев назад

      Growing up with Kronkite on the TV, it felt like we were getting "real" news as opposed to the highly slanted propaganda we are fed now.

  • @dmcnamara9859
    @dmcnamara9859 9 месяцев назад +7

    Flying was even fun in the 70s as a child. As plane was getting to cruising altitude, pilots would allow us kids in cockpit and show us everything, including sitting in jumpseat the entire flight including takeoff and landing. Flight attendants were extremely nice and with great customer service whether in coach or 1st class.

    • @rhanemann9100
      @rhanemann9100 9 месяцев назад +1

      This may sound unbelievable, but in 2000 I was able to jumpseat a landing into SYD on QANTAS just by asking (I was seated in business class). I was 27 at the time, and had jumpseated on a few private aircraft. The pilots were very friendly and engaging until we were on final. Of course, 9/11 ruined that possibility for any non-airline employee.

    • @WAL_DC-6B
      @WAL_DC-6B  9 месяцев назад

      Thanks for recalling your experiences of getting a seat in the cockpit of an airliner decades ago. I too got to ride in the jump seat (at an older age) and experience the landing of a Faucett-Peru, Douglas DC-8 back in 1986. The fact that I held a private pilot's license helped me get this opportunity. Also spent about an hour in the jump seat of a SAHSA Lockheed L-188 Electra when I was 18 years old. That was back in 1976. Yeah, "those were the days."

    • @encinobalboa
      @encinobalboa 8 месяцев назад +1

      Planes were really interesting back them. 747-100, 747-200, 747SP, 727-200, 737-200, 707, DC-10, DC-9, DC-8, L10-11 were all flying back them. Each was different in their own way. I flew them all except the DC-8.

  • @vladilenkalatschev4915
    @vladilenkalatschev4915 9 месяцев назад +4

    Damn! This epoch was simply esthetically beautiful

  • @tropicalblum
    @tropicalblum 9 месяцев назад +7

    I miss the voice of uncle Walter

  • @buckzx12r
    @buckzx12r 9 месяцев назад +3

    The greatest jetliner ever.The plane that changed aviation in a way never thought possible.Instanly mase air travel THE way to go.Brought the world much closer together,and made travel possible for everyone.Great vid!

    • @WAL_DC-6B
      @WAL_DC-6B  9 месяцев назад +1

      I gather you're referring to the Boeing 707?

    • @buckzx12r
      @buckzx12r 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@WAL_DC-6B Yes!

  • @ksw4942
    @ksw4942 10 месяцев назад +10

    Najeeb Halaby, the FAA administrator, was Queen Noor’s father! What a coincidence.

    • @georgeconway4360
      @georgeconway4360 9 месяцев назад

      The King loved airplanes, especially when he was flying the airplane.

  • @Pangea1430
    @Pangea1430 2 года назад +24

    Am I the only one that realizes that at the time the security at airports was nothing more than a bag scanner and nothing else, people could just go and enjoy the views like a mall.

    • @WAL_DC-6B
      @WAL_DC-6B  2 года назад +11

      I don't recall even bag scanners being used in the early 1960s at commercial airports. You just bought your ticket, got on board and flew to your destination. Pretty much like going to the shopping mall today. Really no security to pass through. The only police you'd see at a major terminal like Chicago would be outside directing traffic.

    • @rabaohong9492
      @rabaohong9492 10 месяцев назад +7

      I am older than all of you. The whole family walk to the gate. Zero security. Every man carried a pen knife. And everyone smoke cigarettes for the whole process.

    • @MaxPower-11
      @MaxPower-11 9 месяцев назад +6

      Up until 9/11 anyone could get past security at the airport. Now only ticketed passengers are allowed.

    • @goshlikkrudbahr5109
      @goshlikkrudbahr5109 9 месяцев назад +8

      all the metal detector stuff csme in the early 70s after all those "Take me to Cuba" hijackings.

    • @dfirth224
      @dfirth224 9 месяцев назад +4

      Bag scanners were not invented in 1962.

  • @bcshelby4926
    @bcshelby4926 9 месяцев назад +3

    ...love the shot of people boarding a North Central Convair Metro near the end.
    Speaking of trains to airport, that has been a recent trend with cities extending LRT and commuter rail lines to their airports. (Milwaukee' Wi even has an Amtrak station at its airport on the the line to Chicago). Cities in the rest of world have also extended rail connections to their airports including Tokyo, London (to Heathrow), Paris, Amsterdam, and Frankfurt just to name a few.

    • @WAL_DC-6B
      @WAL_DC-6B  9 месяцев назад

      You're right, that is indeed a North Central Convair 340 or 440. Good spot! And that one shot was made at Chicago's Midway Airport based on the control tower in the background.

  • @jonw999999
    @jonw999999 Год назад +10

    So 1960s... All the reinventing the wheel with airport express superhighways, monorails and mobile lounges as fantasy impractical solutions while dismissing the best & proven solution of taking the "old" train to the airport as shown with Gatwick

    • @tomservo56954
      @tomservo56954 Год назад +4

      Decades after the DC Metro subway was developed, they built a spur to Washington International (Dulles--where the mobile lounges have been replaced)

    • @johnp139
      @johnp139 8 месяцев назад

      EXACTLY!!!

  • @flyingtigerline
    @flyingtigerline 9 месяцев назад +2

    I lived during those times and I did have a major complaint. Who wanted jets that didn't have propellers to watch? I was 5 year old.

  • @Bungle-UK
    @Bungle-UK 9 месяцев назад +7

    60 years later and Manhattan to JFK is just as bad with no viable public transport option. Compare that to London where Heathrow now has three different rail lines plus buses.

  • @CalTxDude
    @CalTxDude 9 месяцев назад +2

    I used to really love going right to the gate to welcome my loved one as soon as they stepped into the airport!!
    Same with walking them to the gate to bid them goodbye

  • @rhanemann9100
    @rhanemann9100 9 месяцев назад +2

    Walter just casually interviewing the Captain while the plane looks to be below 10,000 feet. No sterile cockpit rules back in 1962...

    • @buckzx12r
      @buckzx12r 9 месяцев назад +1

      Saw a video of Arthur Godfrey Piloting a Constellation,and when they got to cruise altitude,the crew all lit up cigarettes!

    • @Jay-jb2vr
      @Jay-jb2vr 8 месяцев назад

      Why would there be?? Hijackings wasn't a thing back then

  • @towringer
    @towringer 4 года назад +8

    Shot at New York Idlewild (IDL) airport in 1962

    • @tomservo56954
      @tomservo56954 Год назад +4

      For the CBS program THE TWENTIETH CENTURY

    • @dfirth224
      @dfirth224 9 месяцев назад +1

      In 1964 the name was changed to JFK.

    • @gregsells8549
      @gregsells8549 9 месяцев назад +2

      The opening flight came from Toronto Malton, now Pearson (YYZ).

  • @knightwatchman
    @knightwatchman 11 месяцев назад +4

    I've done the Gatwick to London, London (back) to Gatwick multiple times. Still a good service.

    • @WAL_DC-6B
      @WAL_DC-6B  9 месяцев назад

      How 'bout the London to Heathrow service?

    • @knightwatchman
      @knightwatchman 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@WAL_DC-6B Never used it. Sorry.

  • @ericmathisen2825
    @ericmathisen2825 9 месяцев назад +2

    I remember as a kid in the late sixties (around ten years old) coming in for landing at JFK airport. Looking out the window you could see people barbecuing in their backyard and riding bikes in the street just a few hundred feet below. Wondered then how they coped with the terrible noise we made every minute or so, all day long. They wanted a nice home for their families and in order to do that they put up with it. Much better today (but probably still very annoying ) we can hope.

  • @hawlikd
    @hawlikd 10 месяцев назад +6

    No yoga & sweat pants insight.

    • @jefflewis4
      @jefflewis4 9 месяцев назад

      Most of the passengers were older ,mostly men, almost exclusively white people at the airport, except for the red caps and bus drivers Lots of things were different then.

  • @indridcold8433
    @indridcold8433 2 года назад +11

    The white zone is for loading and unloading. There is no stopping in the red zone
    The red zone is for loading and unloading. There is no stopping in the white zone.
    The white zone has always been for loading and unloading. There has never been stopping in the red zone.
    Don't tell me which zone is for what!

    • @tomservo56954
      @tomservo56954 Год назад +4

      "We know what this is really all about...you want me to have an abortion!"

    • @indridcold8433
      @indridcold8433 Год назад +2

      @@tomservo56954It's really the only sensible thing to do, if its done properly. Therapeutically there's no danger involved. Don't start with your white zone shit again.

    • @gustavokennedy213
      @gustavokennedy213 10 месяцев назад +1

      Airplane ✈️ thanks

    • @indridcold8433
      @indridcold8433 10 месяцев назад

      @@gustavokennedy213 Airplane? What is it?

    • @Vapnvibes
      @Vapnvibes 10 месяцев назад +1

      Airplane was so funny

  • @crybabypippo
    @crybabypippo 4 года назад +2

    thanks dan

  • @skipcampbell4226
    @skipcampbell4226 9 месяцев назад +2

    The old long hall constellation was used for the shuttle by airlines. The use of jets for this wasnt till the late 60's.

    • @WAL_DC-6B
      @WAL_DC-6B  9 месяцев назад +1

      Eastern's Shuttle indeed used Lockheed Super Constellations initially on this service (perhaps Douglas DC-7s as well). By early 1968 the Connies were only used as backup for Lockheed Electras or Boeing 727s.

  • @drpoundsign
    @drpoundsign 9 месяцев назад +4

    That Pilot was straight-up BS Stonewalling Cronkite about jet engine noise. I'm Sure his Bosses told him to.

    • @WAL_DC-6B
      @WAL_DC-6B  9 месяцев назад +5

      Actually, the newer Pratt & Whitney JT3D fanjet engines, as used on AA's Boeing 707s, indeed ran quieter than the original Pratt & Whitney JT3C-6 jet engines with the "daisy-pedestal" sound suppressors attached to the rear of those engines. In addition to the fanjet engines running quieter, they also provided more power thus making shorter takeoff runs and steeper takeoffs possible to further help eliminate jet noise when flying over residential areas.

    • @drpoundsign
      @drpoundsign 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@WAL_DC-6B I can believe that. When Military jets came out, the pilots commented on how much quieter they were than the earlier, piston-engined models. I guess the only Really quiet plane would be a fuel-cell powered, electric model. There is actually an EV Quadcopter, that tops out at 150 mph, with a 12,000 foot ceiling, and 100 miles of range. I saw it at the Detroit auto show. That won't replace Jet Travel, though.

    • @Gail1Marie
      @Gail1Marie 9 месяцев назад

      I lived right under the flight path at MSP (Minneapolis/St. Paul International) and absolutely agree. When I was a kid, we kept the windows open in summer. If we were talking at the kitchen table and a jet went over, all conversation would cease for at least a minute. But once Northwest Airlines exclusively flew fanjets, it reduced that "I can't hear you" time to around 15 seconds. Made a huge difference. @@WAL_DC-6B

    • @bcshelby4926
      @bcshelby4926 9 месяцев назад +2

      ...a comprehensive noise abatement policy was issued by the DOT and FAA in the 1970s but not enacted until 1980.

  • @robinsattahip2376
    @robinsattahip2376 9 месяцев назад +1

    Ironic, flying was paradise in the '60s and '70s compared to the nightmare it is now.

    • @WAL_DC-6B
      @WAL_DC-6B  9 месяцев назад

      If you consider this to be paradise back when there were the expensive seats (coach) and the REAL expensive seats (1st class) then indeed you're correct. Airline deregulation brought down airfares so the average person could travel by air.

    • @colinwinogradoff6794
      @colinwinogradoff6794 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@WAL_DC-6Bwhat are you talking about. That dude paid $14.10 for a ticket. Even in 1962 that's cheap!

    • @WAL_DC-6B
      @WAL_DC-6B  9 месяцев назад

      @@colinwinogradoff6794 Naa, $14.00 was still a fair amount of money in 1962. If it wasn't everyone would have been flying at that price back then. The first time I flew on an airliner was in 1973. It was a North Central Convair 580 round trip from Chicago - O'Hare to Milwaukee and back. Airfare at that time was $32.00 which seems cheap by today. However, I was making minimum wage which was $1.65 an hour. Took a bit of saving up to make that trip.

  • @johnp139
    @johnp139 8 месяцев назад +1

    How is noise NOT a NUISANCE?!?

  • @philscholze6528
    @philscholze6528 9 месяцев назад +3

    ...not even a bag scanner. Nothing! Just get your boarding pass, go to the gate and away you go! Friendly agents and pretty stewardesses...purchase your ticket on board. What a concept!

  • @skipcampbell4226
    @skipcampbell4226 9 месяцев назад +1

    Halebee ran pan am after Tripp to left

  • @skipcampbell4226
    @skipcampbell4226 9 месяцев назад +1

    Most of those young house interviewed. Are probably deceased now.

  • @gillesbueno1153
    @gillesbueno1153 9 месяцев назад +1

    November 2023. Same upheaval today…even worse…
    Flying today means low middle class people traveling like sardines in a can, boarding in congested airports.
    The well off and wealthy travel by high speed trains, a lot, a lot more expensive ride…
    Writing from the other side of the pond, Europe.

    • @WAL_DC-6B
      @WAL_DC-6B  9 месяцев назад +2

      It was deregulation of the airline industry in the United States in 1978 that made it possible for the middle class (and perhaps lower) to more easily afford to fly commercially. At least now many of the newer airliners have individual TV sets to help pass the time in those "sardine in a can" like seats (I just traveled on a BA A380 from Johannesburg to London (Heathrow) and I had a "sardine can" seat flying in steerage (lower deck in the back)).

  • @zekeonstormpeak4186
    @zekeonstormpeak4186 10 месяцев назад +2

    Crazy, back then airport security was non existent. They designed around convenience . No a days, security trumps convenience . The terminal, concourse model, is the only way to move people in mass numbers. Separate terminals for each airline is not convenient. LAX seems to still be struggling with this outdated concept. They’re still trying to put together a hodgepodge of outdated terminals that don’t seem to connect well.

    • @WAL_DC-6B
      @WAL_DC-6B  10 месяцев назад +2

      Yes, security wise, airports back in the early 1960s were much like their train station counterparts.

    • @MaxPower-11
      @MaxPower-11 9 месяцев назад +2

      At least at LAX you can move between terminals without exiting security. At Idlewild (now known as JFK) you can’t.

    • @Gail1Marie
      @Gail1Marie 9 месяцев назад +1

      The spate of airplane hijackings ended the practice of allowing passengers to board unmolested.

    • @bcshelby4926
      @bcshelby4926 9 месяцев назад +1

      ...Kansas city had a great concept with MCI airport as you could literally be driven right to where your gate was and walk no more than maybe 90 feet to check in and board your flight. Sadly that lasted less than a year as security checks became necessary du to the increase in hijackings.

  • @colinwinogradoff6794
    @colinwinogradoff6794 9 месяцев назад +3

    Damn $14 for a ticket and treated like a human.

    • @WAL_DC-6B
      @WAL_DC-6B  9 месяцев назад

      That's when $14.00 was a fair amount of money (1962).

  • @amranackerman9656
    @amranackerman9656 9 месяцев назад +1

    Hahahahahaha-- 2023 I'm done
    Can we resurrect the dead and show them 2067 --- ahhhhhh the noise blablabla