This Profundity counter only works against a fast PO. A slow PO does the mass dispel after the MF AOE which removes all the buffs and prevents this from working.
Thank you! I seem to be having problems testing vs a 4 star P1 because none of my tie fighters are dying before Executrix goes, so I can't bring in a reinforcement first turn.
A low star Ebon Hawk reinforcement works pretty well with Profundity against a triple attacker and HT starting lineup. It gives everybody the chaff buff and using the second special on Dengar stops him from going into stealth. Don’t know how viable this is for Grand Arena, but I don’t see Ebon Hawk used much elsewhere and it’s pretty consistent in Fleet Arena.
I can back this up. Ive only faced 4 star POs though but yeah. Use the last Special " Scramble scanners " on Punishing one, infliction of Buff Immunity for 2 turns. Dispel Target Lock from all allies and grant them Chaff for 2 turns. This attack gains 20% Critical Chance for each ship ally. Thats your first reinforcement
For the hounds tooth comp, I subbed in Chimera for Executrix so I could have the instakill. Worked easily, but maybe I was just fortunate. Also tried Finalizer vs HT. I got out p1 and the xb(1ST reinforcement). Think I misplayed it so that could also be viable. The p1s were 4 star I believe.
I am looking forward to the profundity lifter unit coming once everyone spends money on the PO making the Executor the #3 fleet again. Enjoy it while you can…
Can you please make a video about the Exec with P1 mirror, specifically if you go 2nd? My whole fleet shard including myself think it's basically impossible in that scenario so fleet arena is a slog right now.
@@Kief553 Have you got any non bounty hunter reinforcements? I've found that having a fleet that's only bounty hunters give you the full bonuses of P1's kit. I was making the mistake of having Ebon Hawk in my fleet still and it was causing me all sorts of problems. Took it out and winning consistent!
Seems like these are unideal Executors, since they have non-BH allies in the reinforcements somewhere. Hence, TIE Defender crits hard and can dodge more often, and Executor doesn’t go first in either matchup. Try seeing if this still works against an Executor with only BH reinforcements (meaning last reinforcement slot is empty)
I'm not sure which footage you're watching...The Executor DOES go first vs the Executrix. It'll never go before the Profundity as the Profundity vastly outpaces it.
@@ScrybeGaming seems like I gaslit myself. Saw TIE Defender critting (which is strange, since Punishing One is supposed to extremely nerf that) and thought that meant the entire thing turned off. Just tried it for myself in Fleet Arena and PO just checks if the opening lineup has itself and other BHs Sorry about that
Queen Amidala should be in the Conquest store by this point, I believe. Some of her shards may still be available in the wandering scavenger nodes, but I'm not sure how many will be available (if any) on Easy mode Conquest. Definitely not enough to unlock in 1 conquest.
Eh idc if profundity can beat executor on offense as long as profundity sucks on defense Also lol remeber how people reacted to p1 only for things to be fine after people actually played more than 2 secs. Also also i saw someone doing well with profundity first reinforcement being ebon hawk to try and prevent target lock and focusing on p1 the whole time. Idk if that only works against triple attackers though
I ran into the same issue. If their P1 is 5 * or lower they leave the TFP in the red and you can’t call in tie defender, so you can’t stun P1 and its RIP. It works better against the stronger P1 which is a bit ironic.
Tarkin has not been consistent for me. Have I done it? Yes but the dodges for the defender isnt there and you def can get beaten pretty consistently with tarkin fleet. Levi with tie dagger starting seems more consistent
Actually...I think that element of p1 isn't impacting TDF because it only triggers at the start of battle. Maybe because TDF is in RI he doesn't lose the CC
It looks incredibly inconsistent at the moment. Very hard to quantify, but looks like the CC and Evasion is only sometimes being applied (regardless of Reinforcements on eitherside). One thing is for sure : the bonus prot always works if your on field allies are all BH, no matter what. I've tested that thoroughly
I'm fairly certain it is bugged. I still go second if P1 is anywhere (including reinforcement) on the opponent fleet regardless of non-bh reinforcements my side or theirs. 192 vs my 191 exec base speed.
what am i missing? i'm confused. obviously your opponent has 7 ships but in the game are only 6 bounty hunter ships. so 1 ship has to be a non bounty hunter ship. punishing ones abilitiy "jumpmaster5000" says clearly: "At the start of battle, if Punishing One is deployed and all allies are Bounty Hunters (excluding the Capital Ship)" and so on.. so why do they have bonus protection? your tie fighters should also lose 200% crit chance. i don't get it. have a good one scrybe! :-) edit: i think i got it. the bonus prot is from executors ability "vaders bounty). and your ties do crit. so it is allright and they dont get all the stuff from p1 unique. BUT am i now right, that your first counter with executrix probably does NOT work if the enemie has only six bounty hunter ships and not like in the video a 7. non bounty hunter ship?
Hey man! So I think we chatted about this in the recent stream. Couple things on the Punishing One's unique for others reading: 1) The Punishing One unique doesn't take into account the Reinforcements - either for itself or the enemy to determine if the clauses in the unique activate. So having 7 reinforcements doesn't matter, this is very easy to test by simply going into the battle and seeing the Bonus Protection on all BHers at the start, or by landing a debuff on Punshing One and watching him cleanse it, etc. 2) The unique only applies at the start of battle (bonus prot/-200% CC and evasion/etc.) and does not impact ships that are on the reinforcement bench. So TIE Defender reinforces and has standard levels of CC and evasion no matter what. If he was on the starting lineup it would cause issues. Executor doesn't give bonus protection, it gives Max Protection, those are different things (I know we discussed this earlier on stream, but again for others at home). Whether or not this is how CG intended the Punishing One to behave is unclear at this point. Maybe we will find out soon :).
Bore da Scrybe ! Cant trust this mate sorry, thats exec with full slots - jumpmaster 5000 disabled. If its not including RI's anywaythen its a bug, Shirley
Bore da! It's a bit weird tbh - because the Jump Master 5000 unique DOES trigger - but inconsistently (you can see it via the bonus protection at the start on all the enemy bounty hunters). I'm not sure what's causing it to sometimes let my Reinforced TDF crit. I've seen videos with only 3 RIs and the TDF & summoned TIEs critting, and videos where they don't. Nothing in the mechanics is helping it right now. It's very weird!
This Profundity counter only works against a fast PO. A slow PO does the mass dispel after the MF AOE which removes all the buffs and prevents this from working.
I've found lower stars to be easier with Prof! I have some footage I'll have to review
Thank you! I seem to be having problems testing vs a 4 star P1 because none of my tie fighters are dying before Executrix goes, so I can't bring in a reinforcement first turn.
Swap it out for Chimaera- works better vs low stars :)
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Always :). Thanks brother
A low star Ebon Hawk reinforcement works pretty well with Profundity against a triple attacker and HT starting lineup. It gives everybody the chaff buff and using the second special on Dengar stops him from going into stealth.
Don’t know how viable this is for Grand Arena, but I don’t see Ebon Hawk used much elsewhere and it’s pretty consistent in Fleet Arena.
Ahh that's good to know! Nobody running HT in my fleet shard right now.
I can back this up. Ive only faced 4 star POs though but yeah. Use the last Special " Scramble scanners " on Punishing one, infliction of Buff Immunity for 2 turns. Dispel Target Lock from all allies and grant them Chaff for 2 turns. This attack gains 20% Critical Chance for each ship ally. Thats your first reinforcement
Always good to know :)
Keep your secrets Scrybe, I'm finally able to climb back into the top 20 with my exec against Levi and Profundity!
In all honesty though, great video!
hah thanks bud. Congrats on your unlock :)
Vs HT starting lineups I had luck with XB start and a slow Exe. Just heal the pummeled one and pray u can gun down P1
I noticed both of these are without HT starting. Maybe more incoming damage here, but also easier to target squishy enemies!
Yeah I'd like to test vs HT comps
For the hounds tooth comp, I subbed in Chimera for Executrix so I could have the instakill. Worked easily, but maybe I was just fortunate. Also tried Finalizer vs HT. I got out p1 and the xb(1ST reinforcement). Think I misplayed it so that could also be viable. The p1s were 4 star I believe.
I am looking forward to the profundity lifter unit coming once everyone spends money on the PO making the Executor the #3 fleet again. Enjoy it while you can…
Maybe we get that one next year :)
How about we get a Mal lifter first, that capital ship is suffering with all those pilotless ships
Poor Malev just sitting out there waiting for someone to show him some love.
@@ScrybeGaming sitting on a swing kicking the dirt
Second comment, don’t give the first comment roster review
Deal
Can you please make a video about the Exec with P1 mirror, specifically if you go 2nd? My whole fleet shard including myself think it's basically impossible in that scenario so fleet arena is a slog right now.
I'll look into it!
I second this request! 🙏🏻 It would be nice if you could test both triple attacker or the alternate with HT starting. Thank you.
@@Kief553 Have you got any non bounty hunter reinforcements? I've found that having a fleet that's only bounty hunters give you the full bonuses of P1's kit. I was making the mistake of having Ebon Hawk in my fleet still and it was causing me all sorts of problems. Took it out and winning consistent!
Ebon hawk first reinforcement with profundity already has videos out there working.
This is good to know :)
The flip side of Executrix is that it takes out my favorite counter to Leviathan. Which means I probably have to pull Lev off defense. Ugh.
It puts fleet in an interesting position where you have to either go full offense or full defense, I guess!
Punishing one can be countered with executrix? A surprise to be sure!
For sure for sure
But a welcome one.
Seems like these are unideal Executors, since they have non-BH allies in the reinforcements somewhere. Hence, TIE Defender crits hard and can dodge more often, and Executor doesn’t go first in either matchup.
Try seeing if this still works against an Executor with only BH reinforcements (meaning last reinforcement slot is empty)
I'm not sure which footage you're watching...The Executor DOES go first vs the Executrix. It'll never go before the Profundity as the Profundity vastly outpaces it.
@@ScrybeGaming seems like I gaslit myself. Saw TIE Defender critting (which is strange, since Punishing One is supposed to extremely nerf that) and thought that meant the entire thing turned off. Just tried it for myself in Fleet Arena and PO just checks if the opening lineup has itself and other BHs
Sorry about that
@BlazingStorm8895 all good man. New stuff is confusing.
@@BlazingStorm8895it's bugged that's why, shocker I know
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In the flesh!
THANK Y… ah, i ll wait…
Thanks buddy lol
We need a counter with HT in the starting line up
I need to face one first! Only have triple attackers in my fleet shards right now.
@@ScrybeGaming funny mine are all with HT’s
@@Drauger-777 same here, youre are only hope scrybe!
Thanks for all you do. ❤
Thanks for watching!
I get this question is non video related but do you think that as a easy conquest can I still get queen amidala or is it too late?
Queen Amidala should be in the Conquest store by this point, I believe. Some of her shards may still be available in the wandering scavenger nodes, but I'm not sure how many will be available (if any) on Easy mode Conquest. Definitely not enough to unlock in 1 conquest.
What about the mirror with a lower stars punishing one? I’m having problems with that in fleet arena
It's very RNG based, but I do have some footage recorded
I’m gonna thank you now! Thanks man! I’m pissed how much this has devalued profundity after I just farmed for 6 months 😡
Yeah I feel like CG has been shitting on Prof for a long time now. Sucks when it’s the only GL fleet I have.
great video!
Thanks bud
Eh idc if profundity can beat executor on offense as long as profundity sucks on defense
Also lol remeber how people reacted to p1 only for things to be fine after people actually played more than 2 secs.
Also also i saw someone doing well with profundity first reinforcement being ebon hawk to try and prevent target lock and focusing on p1 the whole time. Idk if that only works against triple attackers though
the executrix dosnt seem to work for me as they don't kill my tie fighter
Oh man, I've not had that happen yet - are you facing 7* comps? Or is it lower stars?
@ScrybeGaming 7* Executor, 4 star P1 triple attack XB, P1, And razor . Could be a low star thing like you said.
I think it must be!
I ran into the same issue. If their P1 is 5 * or lower they leave the TFP in the red and you can’t call in tie defender, so you can’t stun P1 and its RIP. It works better against the stronger P1 which is a bit ironic.
Exact same thing for me.
Tarkin has not been consistent for me. Have I done it? Yes but the dodges for the defender isnt there and you def can get beaten pretty consistently with tarkin fleet. Levi with tie dagger starting seems more consistent
It definitely is. I should have thrown the levi counter in tbh. For now I'll save Levi for mirror matches I think
I thank you when you r9 ewoks you want to for gerbil😂
never gonna happen hah
executrix is better than Chimaera?
I've not tried Chimaera just yet
Nice thx
Any time!
thanks !
You're welcome!
I thank you later 😁
Thanks haha
Making Profundity fleets feel the pain of rng that every Executor felt facing them prior to Punishing One.
Profundity has always been at the mercy of rng to beat triple attacker lineups tbh
profundity fleets always feel the pain of RNG. Worst fleet in the game if they don't get lucky with assists
@@ScrybeGaming Not sure what universe you live in for that to be remotely true.
Now redo the video.
TIE Defender was critting, even though P1 blocks TIE Fighters.
I think that unique is bugged. They're gaining all the other benefits (see the bonus prot at the start).
Actually...I think that element of p1 isn't impacting TDF because it only triggers at the start of battle. Maybe because TDF is in RI he doesn't lose the CC
@@ScrybeGamingit should still be affected. Saw some videos of people reinforcing and not being able to crit/dodge
It looks incredibly inconsistent at the moment. Very hard to quantify, but looks like the CC and Evasion is only sometimes being applied (regardless of Reinforcements on eitherside).
One thing is for sure : the bonus prot always works if your on field allies are all BH, no matter what. I've tested that thoroughly
I'm fairly certain it is bugged. I still go second if P1 is anywhere (including reinforcement) on the opponent fleet regardless of non-bh reinforcements my side or theirs. 192 vs my 191 exec base speed.
what am i missing? i'm confused. obviously your opponent has 7 ships but in the game are only 6 bounty hunter ships. so 1 ship has to be a non bounty hunter ship. punishing ones abilitiy "jumpmaster5000" says clearly: "At the start of battle, if Punishing One is deployed and all allies are Bounty Hunters (excluding the Capital Ship)" and so on.. so why do they have bonus protection? your tie fighters should also lose 200% crit chance. i don't get it. have a good one scrybe! :-)
edit: i think i got it. the bonus prot is from executors ability "vaders bounty). and your ties do crit. so it is allright and they dont get all the stuff from p1 unique. BUT am i now right, that your first counter with executrix probably does NOT work if the enemie has only six bounty hunter ships and not like in the video a 7. non bounty hunter ship?
Hey man! So I think we chatted about this in the recent stream. Couple things on the Punishing One's unique for others reading:
1) The Punishing One unique doesn't take into account the Reinforcements - either for itself or the enemy to determine if the clauses in the unique activate. So having 7 reinforcements doesn't matter, this is very easy to test by simply going into the battle and seeing the Bonus Protection on all BHers at the start, or by landing a debuff on Punshing One and watching him cleanse it, etc.
2) The unique only applies at the start of battle (bonus prot/-200% CC and evasion/etc.) and does not impact ships that are on the reinforcement bench. So TIE Defender reinforces and has standard levels of CC and evasion no matter what. If he was on the starting lineup it would cause issues.
Executor doesn't give bonus protection, it gives Max Protection, those are different things (I know we discussed this earlier on stream, but again for others at home).
Whether or not this is how CG intended the Punishing One to behave is unclear at this point. Maybe we will find out soon :).
@@ScrybeGaming thanks for clarify, you are always a help!
Bore da Scrybe !
Cant trust this mate sorry, thats exec with full slots - jumpmaster 5000 disabled. If its not including RI's anywaythen its a bug, Shirley
Bore da!
It's a bit weird tbh - because the Jump Master 5000 unique DOES trigger - but inconsistently (you can see it via the bonus protection at the start on all the enemy bounty hunters). I'm not sure what's causing it to sometimes let my Reinforced TDF crit. I've seen videos with only 3 RIs and the TDF & summoned TIEs critting, and videos where they don't.
Nothing in the mechanics is helping it right now. It's very weird!
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Less videos like this please...I've just got a 7* punishing one 😂
Haha woops!
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@@ScrybeGaming deal I’ll get your account on the right path.
@@jaycox8760 thanks brother!