Tension and Pull compensation on the Brother PE800

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  • @FidelElvira
    @FidelElvira 3 года назад +28

    That's a true dude recognizing and apologizing for his mistakes👍🏻

  • @marciapierce8025
    @marciapierce8025 Год назад +4

    I love you! Your apology to Jaime was amazing. I’m a new follower and brand new to embroidery and your videos are real and so informative.
    Signed - your new best fan

  • @pamelahedgepeth7420
    @pamelahedgepeth7420 Год назад

    I didn't even realize you could adjust the tension from this screen. I thought it was only under the settings page. I finally realized the problem....my toddler had adjusted the tension here!!!! What a difference!!!

  • @ozsomenurse
    @ozsomenurse 3 года назад +5

    THANK YOU! I FINALLY UNDERSTAND!! So many others talk about it but didn't explain it. Thanks for being straight forward and easy for us newbies to understand. Much appreciated!

  • @pamsfiberfrenzy
    @pamsfiberfrenzy 3 года назад +3

    Amazing! A man that apologizes and recognizes when he’s wrong!

  • @kalebgibson8694
    @kalebgibson8694 Год назад

    Brosove I ran across your videos in search of the help needed to reframe from throwing my first embroidery machine out the damn window. Thank you for talking to us. Like we all didn't grow up in a homec shop with sowing grandma's.. I understand tension lol now. Thank you

  • @MariaDelgado-yz2ll
    @MariaDelgado-yz2ll Год назад

    This helped me so much . I was fustrated on why the bobbin was showing on my designs . Thank you so much I will try again tomorrow!

  • @aliciablair24
    @aliciablair24 18 дней назад

    Thank you!!! This helped me a lot since I’m new to embroidery

  • @angelmadrigal5303
    @angelmadrigal5303 2 года назад

    This really helped! Thankyou I was getting frustrated because the bobbin kept surfacing in the stitching and I didn’t know why. Now I understand. Appreciate it boss.

  • @dayz6536
    @dayz6536 3 года назад

    Thank you! I'm new to machine sewing and I thought my embroidery machine was going to need looked at. This video helped me avoid that.

  • @mshoneypandora
    @mshoneypandora 3 года назад +1

    Thank you, this really helped me to find out why it was so much space in my stitching. Still learning

  • @annblake8731
    @annblake8731 3 года назад

    Really enjoyed your video from across the pond. I’m getting train tracks underneath and skipped loose stitches. Loved your honesty and amends too. Keep growing one day at a time

  • @peggyvida2581
    @peggyvida2581 Год назад +1

    I see so many possibilities saying to never adjust the tension. Apparently, it's adjustable for a reason😊

  • @queenniyahbingai9347
    @queenniyahbingai9347 2 года назад +1

    I’m just seeing this and would like to say it’s power in owning your own shish… amazing!!! I’m sure you have grown a lot since this video. I wish you much peace and blessings in your journey and I thank you for your knowledge. I am new to embroidery and I must say it is really challenging getting the files done correctly. So how do I connect with you to embroider a file for me?

    • @adubbproductions
      @adubbproductions  2 года назад

      Send me an email with your image for a price quote. Adubbproductions@gmail.com

  • @UseYourManners123
    @UseYourManners123 3 года назад +3

    I’m very impressed by your awesome efforts to improve yourself well on your way to being an awesome 💫! Lots of people don’t stop and reflect! You are showing men how to be a real respectful man! And recognizing when you’ve made a mistake and apologizing sincerely takes a big person with a good heart to do that! 👍🏽✌️🥰🤩. Love your explanation!

  • @panic7586
    @panic7586 Год назад

    Thank you, have just saved me hours of work!

  • @thenatnatboy
    @thenatnatboy 2 года назад

    omg, you are awesome, i was in a brink of returning the machine

  • @imadish5356
    @imadish5356 3 года назад

    Thought pull comp problem with a design -small circles look like ovals. Adjusted and adjusted pull comp and that hasn't helped, so I'm going to try the tension setting. Thank you! BTW, glad you're on the planet. Most people are too full of themselves to ever say sorry or to admit to a mistake. That you did it IN your video says a lot about you. I'd subscribe over and over if I could!

    • @Stazziee
      @Stazziee 2 года назад

      Hi did it work for you??? Adjusting the tension?

    • @imadish5356
      @imadish5356 2 года назад

      Hello @@Stazziee, Yes! It did help -a bunch! But test and test again. My 1st try was a bit too loose, and while I didn't get loops like Allan, it did look a bit sloppy. But it did take care of the puckering and pulling! I increased it bit by bit until I hit the sweet spot. And every fabric is different. BTW, to be fair I did also figure out some of my problem was with not having enough or strong enough stabilizer. I ended up having to add a section of adhesive stabilizer for really dense/detailed areas or thin fabric. Hope it helps. Happy embroidering!

  • @stephaniecelestialemelle8675
    @stephaniecelestialemelle8675 3 года назад

    Thank you for sharing. I was having a problem with my tension and you helped me too resolve the problem.

  • @mandakovaclark5226
    @mandakovaclark5226 3 года назад

    We all make mistakes....... the big thing is that you recognized and corrected the mistake. That's why I fuxcz with you. Excuse the language💯😎💪🏾

  • @tamaravera2023
    @tamaravera2023 2 года назад

    Hello, I really appreciate your videos, I learn a lot. My question is what is best or upgrade machine for embroidery since this video was made one year ago? Thank you!

  • @theresahernandez4150
    @theresahernandez4150 8 месяцев назад

    Thank you for your explanation! This video make me understand finally. Lol

  • @jannajanna3377
    @jannajanna3377 3 года назад +6

    So the thicker the fabric the lower the tension should be?

  • @Ms26Magda
    @Ms26Magda 3 года назад

    Super helpful theses videos , I keep getting nesting at the bottom, can you help out ? Tutorial on troubleshooting? On the brother machine ?

  • @Jeanettec640
    @Jeanettec640 Год назад

    I just watched this video because I’m trying to find a solution to my issue. I just bought the pe800 and this is my first time ever doing embroidery. I keep having an issue where the machine gets stuck and says check and retread the upper thread. I can not figure out why this keeps happening. I’ve been working on a hat for the last 7 HOURS yes one hat smh. And the bobbin thread sometimes gets bunched up. Is there anything you could think of that it can be? I did lower the tension from 4 to 2.6 and it worked a little longer but it happened again. At this point I don’t think I’ll ever finish this hat with just a 3 inch design. But any thoughts would be helpful. Thank you

  • @FiveFascinating
    @FiveFascinating 2 года назад

    thanks a lot for this useful video.. i use tension 4 for towels ,is this okay ..Sometimes the stitches is away a little from it right place , what can cause this problem ..i have v3.. thanks in advance

  • @peggyvida2581
    @peggyvida2581 Год назад

    Where did you get that hoop. Yours has a Handle. Mine does not

  • @dianaa1105
    @dianaa1105 3 года назад +1

    Your videos are so helpful!! GOAT 🙌🏻

  • @lovegirl421
    @lovegirl421 3 года назад +5

    I create my own designs, I have been having trouble with the final outline of the image. For example if i were to embroider a face and I am attempting to just trace the outline in black to make it more cartoon looking. The outline will not be directly on the circle but be outside of it from a few centimeters. Do you have any idea what I can do to adjust the outline of it?

    • @malayaanise
      @malayaanise 3 года назад +2

      I’m having this same problem, did you figure it out?

    • @valerieureno3668
      @valerieureno3668 2 года назад

      Sammmee help 😭

  • @MaryHughes-q7d
    @MaryHughes-q7d Год назад

    Can you thread a bobbin from a spool of cone thread

  • @inarisound
    @inarisound 2 года назад

    Beautify stuff, thank you for showcasing difference!

  • @marciapierce8025
    @marciapierce8025 Год назад

    How do you determine when to adjust the tension? I struggle with that top thread adjustments (never know what to do) and the bobbin thread.

    • @adubbproductions
      @adubbproductions  Год назад

      You adjust the tension when it’s embroidering too loose or too tight.

    • @nicholeurban9997
      @nicholeurban9997 Год назад

      ​@adubbproductions how do you know which one needs to be adjusted? Top vs bobbin?

  • @sylviapineda6717
    @sylviapineda6717 3 года назад

    Awesome Thanks, Palm Springs CALIF-

  • @russwilson2182
    @russwilson2182 3 года назад

    So for the PE 800 you typically set tension to 1.x? Is that true if your using a cotton sweatshirt?

  • @rebeccabonin146
    @rebeccabonin146 3 года назад

    I love your videos! I just received my PE800 and did my first project. I could tell the tension seemed a little tight. Watched this video and you explained just what I needed to know! Thank you! How do I contact you about making me some digitized files for several some logos that I have?

  • @praises2themostHIGH
    @praises2themostHIGH 3 года назад

    Hello, This video us very helpful. One thing I'm have troubles with I believe may be related to the way the machine is threaded more so than the tension? Or could it be they type of stabilizer? I did a tension test ranging from 0.0 to 7.4 and the bobbin thread still shows on each one. There's more of the top thread up to 2.2 but the bobbin thread is still showing. Do you have any idea what is causing this? Thanks in advance😊

  • @christiansiddons2121
    @christiansiddons2121 2 года назад

    Cool video do you think its possible to create a chenille patch with tension at 0

    • @adubbproductions
      @adubbproductions  2 года назад +1

      No. No way to make a real Chenille patch with the actual real chenille fuzz without that chenille machine.

    • @christiansiddons2121
      @christiansiddons2121 2 года назад

      @@adubbproductions ok thank you

  • @jessicamagallanes5950
    @jessicamagallanes5950 2 года назад

    Hello , I have the Pe800 I’ve not been able to make anything on my machine yet due to my thread keep falling out could it be my thread ?

  • @april-TidBit-weems
    @april-TidBit-weems 3 года назад

    Thanks for this video. Will this technique help with stitching on a stretchy polyester fabric. My fabric buckled and then when it got to the letters it seem to grab the fabric and bunched it below the plate. Put a hole in my fabric also 😭

    • @adubbproductions
      @adubbproductions  3 года назад

      In your case you need to use stabilizer and spray adhesive.

  • @dagypsy901
    @dagypsy901 2 года назад

    Do you offer training classes

  • @BenjaminBevilacqua
    @BenjaminBevilacqua 3 года назад +1

    Have you ever had to change the bobbin Tension for any reason?

    • @adubbproductions
      @adubbproductions  3 года назад +2

      No I haven’t. I didn’t even know that there was a setting on the pe800 to change bobbin tension. I wouldn’t mes with it. Mine embroiders fine just the way it is.

    • @BenjaminBevilacqua
      @BenjaminBevilacqua 3 года назад

      @@adubbproductions Yeah I don’t think it’s a setting I think you physically have to get in there with a screwdriver and turn a screw...🤣🤣🤣 I don’t plan on doing that either.. Was just wondering.. lol

  • @cadizwilmo9687
    @cadizwilmo9687 3 года назад

    Thanks for this info. My problem is that when I used 40 weight thread is works great (on my PE800). But when I switched to a 30 Weight thread it gets jammed up. Do you know why? Thanks sir!

    • @antiquebeast
      @antiquebeast 2 года назад

      Brother machines are made to be worked with 40-50 weight top thread and 60 weight bobbin thread. I'd double check though and google searching what other users have said about thread weight :-)

  • @daringmocha1
    @daringmocha1 3 года назад +4

    Hey I watch you all the time.... I have this machine and I bought extra hoops... how do I change it to a 4x4

    • @164hercules
      @164hercules 3 года назад +1

      You have to change your hoop within the program yo are using with your machine. I use Embrilliance and you can use up to a 5 x 12 in this program.

    • @daringmocha1
      @daringmocha1 3 года назад +1

      I have embrillance as well but maybe I have the wrong hoops...because they don’t clamp to the machine like the 5x7

    • @adubbproductions
      @adubbproductions  3 года назад

      Hey. If they don’t clamp to the machine then you purchased the wrong hoops. You have to make sure it is compatible with the machine in the description of the hoops where you purchased them.

    • @daringmocha1
      @daringmocha1 3 года назад +1

      @@adubbproductions ok gonna look online now

    • @164hercules
      @164hercules 3 года назад

      @@daringmocha1 I purchased mine from Amazon from the PE800. In Embrillance look at the top for the yellow box icon to change your hoop size, apply then okay.

  • @samday4424
    @samday4424 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for sharing great advice

  • @abbeyp8834
    @abbeyp8834 3 года назад

    So what should I be setting my machine at for pre-installed logos that look like crap I see bobbin thread and they look messy like for example an "a" will have a space where it looks like it's missing thread

  • @apadilla23
    @apadilla23 3 года назад

    Mr. Dubb! On a 625.. she have a density setting that looks like your tension setting on your 800.. it is the same adjustment? Thanks

  • @holdinweight
    @holdinweight 3 года назад

    Your webpage isn't loading properly on the designs for sale...it gives a broken link overlay

  • @aripatino4454
    @aripatino4454 2 года назад

    After adjusting the tension, the white of the bobbing is still what you see on top of my design! Help!

  • @BOAYJAY
    @BOAYJAY 2 года назад

    Hey when I tap the button you pressed to change the tension it just changes color but doesn’t let me adjust the tension ???? I’m getting a lot of bobbin thread on my design way more than usual

  • @Dianej1942
    @Dianej1942 3 года назад +2

    Great demonstration. Thank you much

  • @thebucketofgold406
    @thebucketofgold406 2 года назад

    What's makes my brother PE800 stop and go while I'm embroidering ?

    • @adubbproductions
      @adubbproductions  2 года назад +1

      If it has a thread break it will stop.
      If it’s out of bobbin thread it will stop.
      If the thread gets tangled at the bottom it will stop.
      If it out of thread at the top it will stop.

  • @luanahaigood278
    @luanahaigood278 2 года назад +1

    Hey Jamie I’m a newbie. I have a pr600 and I started practicing and my entire image came out all white (bobbin) and top thread was turquoise. Any idea what it could be?

    • @nluz88
      @nluz88 Год назад

      yes this is me! please HEEELLLLPPP!!!????

    • @angelaackerman8934
      @angelaackerman8934 Год назад

      What was the tension set at?

  • @richboilive365
    @richboilive365 3 года назад +2

    I just had this happen I’m so glad I catch all your videos 😂

    • @adubbproductions
      @adubbproductions  3 года назад

      Pull Comp could be one reason the other reason if your bobbin thread is showing could be the bobbin thread inserted incorrectly.

    • @sunshinemarie3550
      @sunshinemarie3550 3 года назад

      🤣🤣your upgrading again 😆 I’m trying to keep up but not this time I’ve just bought the pe800 and I’m having nesting issues 🥴 just took it out the box and am testing I’ve also seen it’s 2 tensions... should I adjust both?

  • @thequirkycreative
    @thequirkycreative 2 года назад

    Great video!

  • @marriamqureshi3997
    @marriamqureshi3997 3 года назад +1

    Hey I have a se1900 and everytime I embroidery a design there’s like empty spaces where there’s no thread and i dont know what to do with that and i dont know how to fix the tension or any other setting

    • @marriamqureshi3997
      @marriamqureshi3997 3 года назад +1

      I tried playing around with the tension but there’s still gap in between my design like I can see some empty spots between my embroidery

  • @carmensanchez5222
    @carmensanchez5222 2 года назад

    Thanks again

  • @duntaslappy5319
    @duntaslappy5319 3 года назад

    What is your starting price for digitizing?

    • @adubbproductions
      @adubbproductions  3 года назад +1

      E-Mail your image to adubbproductions@gmail.com for a price quote.

  • @normarodriguez6235
    @normarodriguez6235 Год назад

    Ok I adjusted my tension both bobbin and needle and nothing my bottom color is showing almost all help

  • @mc_mixedmedia
    @mc_mixedmedia 3 года назад

    I’m wondering something because I’m new to embroidery. I’ve seen others, rather than adjust compensation by changing digitizing settings, they just overlap shapes in the digitizing software so that things line up correctly when stitch out, is there a disadvantage to this method? Also is adjusting tension settings and compensation settings basically adjusting the same thing?

  • @TheAimeex
    @TheAimeex 3 года назад

    hi i have just purchased in the uk where i live the pe770, it was all ok but now I'm getting white from the bobbin showing through, i have taken the bobbin out and adjusted the screw as some one told me to do this, but is this right???? I'm upset really as it was all working lovely and then it just changed. any help i would be grateful

  • @0111vramj
    @0111vramj 3 года назад +2

    You missed a huge opportunity to do a segway about "tension" in comments. LOL

  • @bluewaffle5234
    @bluewaffle5234 3 года назад +1

    My bobbin thread keeps showing up on top. And the color thread never shows up. I’ve been messing with the tensions but I still haven’t gotten a solution . Any tips?

    • @n2xrcise
      @n2xrcise 3 года назад

      I'm randomly having this problem in the middle of my design. (3 circles one inside the other) and the 3rd innermost circle stitched with all bobbin thread showing on top.

    • @paulettebajangal
      @paulettebajangal 3 года назад

      You need to stitch out a tension test and adjust the screw on the bobbin case to see if it's the top tension or bottom tension that's the issue. I notice when I use different thread brands it changes the bobbin tension.

  • @annierew1
    @annierew1 3 года назад

    Do you manual punch or auto digitize your designs?

  • @Pony-Corral
    @Pony-Corral 2 года назад

    Does the tension and pull compensation have anything to do with my upper thread breaking? It will work for a few minutes and then break. There is also some "buildup" (bunches up) of thread before it breaks.

    • @Cwilz0218
      @Cwilz0218 2 года назад

      Bro I’m just gettin started and it keeps doin that did you figure it out?

    • @bryant1832
      @bryant1832 2 года назад +1

      This happened to me, what i figured was that the thread I had was cheap. I went back to walmart to get a different brand and it stopped snapping.

  • @missdar1959
    @missdar1959 2 года назад

    I am hypersensitive too. xo

  • @daphnefelley2935
    @daphnefelley2935 2 года назад

    I put my tension and still the white bobbin color is almost dominant please help!

    • @adubbproductions
      @adubbproductions  2 года назад

      We can do a 1 on 1 FaceTime consultation if you’d like. You can schedule one at www.adubbproductions.com

  • @ChristineSmilzzz
    @ChristineSmilzzz 11 месяцев назад

    I am trying to embroider a double thick dog leash and have tried all the tension tricks and so many different fonts to try to stop the loose hoops happening and having the font look like complete crap. Help??

    • @adubbproductions
      @adubbproductions  11 месяцев назад

      You need a commercial machine for that unfortunately. These machines are not strong enough to constantly planetary think dog leashes.

  • @meliesqueda3120
    @meliesqueda3120 2 года назад

    Would tension cause thread breaking?

    • @adubbproductions
      @adubbproductions  2 года назад +1

      Yes it would. Tension is how tight or how loose the thread is pulling. To much tension (pulling and it will fail) just like if you had the thread in your hand. Pull to much and it will break. Same concept.

    • @meliesqueda3120
      @meliesqueda3120 2 года назад

      @@adubbproductions thank you sorry much I didn’t expect an instant reply. I cleaned PE800 and its still breaking thread with tension at 3. Absolutely LOVE you’re videos I’ve learned so much.

    • @adubbproductions
      @adubbproductions  2 года назад

      Thread breaks can also happen if to many layers or thread are embroidering on top of each other.

  • @Insomniaci
    @Insomniaci 3 года назад

    Do you know a good embroidery thread for the brother se600

    • @paulettebajangal
      @paulettebajangal 3 года назад

      I use rayon embroidery thread to sew out designs on the PE770

  • @6503Mary
    @6503Mary 4 месяца назад

    Why won’t the threads stay in 6 groove on pe800

    • @adubbproductions
      @adubbproductions  4 месяца назад

      Not use what you are refering to when you say 6 groove.

  • @pamsfiberfrenzy
    @pamsfiberfrenzy 3 года назад

    What scissors are you using?

    • @adubbproductions
      @adubbproductions  3 года назад

      I’m using these Embroidery scissors amzn.to/2YQF29S. That is my Amazon affiliate link.

    • @pamsfiberfrenzy
      @pamsfiberfrenzy 3 года назад

      @@adubbproductions I just purchased it on Amazon.

  • @brendaestes6797
    @brendaestes6797 2 года назад

    My PE800 started bunching up underneath. I can take it off and get all the threads off but then I can’t get my project lined back up to finish it. Is there a way to do this?

    • @adubbproductions
      @adubbproductions  2 года назад +1

      Is there a way to line your project back up after you shifted it? No other way other than spending all day trying to line it back up. I would just start fr the beginning. It’s bird nesting because your thread is not inserted in the machine correctly. That’s the main way these machines bird nest.

    • @brendaestes6797
      @brendaestes6797 2 года назад

      I can’t figure out how I have the threading wrong. Do you have a video showing how you thread this machine? I thought maybe it was going from 3 to 4 to 5 but I have redone it over and over and it is still doing it. The baffling part is that the 1st layer of my project goes on fine, it starts nesting on the second layer!

    • @adubbproductions
      @adubbproductions  2 года назад +1

      Thread it with the presser foot up. Don’t put it down until you are at the step when you use the auto-threader.

    • @adubbproductions
      @adubbproductions  2 года назад +1

      I explain why in this video. ruclips.net/video/N0yPILKhHVc/видео.html

    • @brendaestes6797
      @brendaestes6797 2 года назад

      The threading tip DID help and it stopped the nesting, but now it is breaking the top thread at the needle. I’m so sorry to bend your ear!!

  • @marriamqureshi3997
    @marriamqureshi3997 3 года назад

    Hey I have a brother se1900. And my bobbin thread keeps on showing up i dont know what to do anymore I’ve tried fixing the thread tension and even the bobbin case at the bottom please help me out

    • @marriamqureshi3997
      @marriamqureshi3997 3 года назад

      Okay I have se1900

    • @zainuna
      @zainuna 3 года назад

      Hi girl! Did you tighten the screw on the bobbin holder to fix tension too? Maybe try a different prefilled bobbin thread and test the tension on that one :) you probably figured it out by now though ❤️

  • @angelaackerman8934
    @angelaackerman8934 Год назад

    Would like to see you embroider a towel:)

    • @adubbproductions
      @adubbproductions  Год назад

      No problem. Here you are. ruclips.net/video/fG939ZBkjsQ/видео.html

  • @IslamicRemindersDaily
    @IslamicRemindersDaily Год назад

    boom just like that

  • @annierew1
    @annierew1 3 года назад +1

    Good morning A Dubb
    I definitely understand the tension and pull compensation needs when digitizing. Feel your pain, I just created several logos that literally had me pulling my hair out

    • @adubbproductions
      @adubbproductions  3 года назад

      😂 but I’m sure you got it right in the end. Lol

  • @pamsfiberfrenzy
    @pamsfiberfrenzy 3 года назад

    I’m going nuts! My auto threader stopped working and my machine is only 2 weeks old! And I’m always breaking needles. Tension too high?

    • @adubbproductions
      @adubbproductions  3 года назад

      Auto threader stopped working because your needle is not in its highest position. Hit it button on the front to make the needle go down and up again then try it.
      You are most likely breaking needles because you are trying to embroider with the sewing foot.

    • @pamsfiberfrenzy
      @pamsfiberfrenzy 3 года назад

      @@adubbproductions I’m stitching with the only foot my machine came with.

    • @adubbproductions
      @adubbproductions  3 года назад

      Which machine do you have? Where did you purchase it?

    • @pamsfiberfrenzy
      @pamsfiberfrenzy 3 года назад

      @@adubbproductions I have the brother pe800. I purchased from a Brother reseller on ETSY

    • @pamsfiberfrenzy
      @pamsfiberfrenzy 3 года назад

      Whenever I’m in the middle of a project and my needle breaks or I have a birds nest under the presser foot, after I’ve cleared it up and corrected the problem when I return to my project it is not I. Alignment and I literally have to throw the entire project away! I’m so upset about this!

  • @simonehannaf
    @simonehannaf 3 года назад

    My under thread is slack and gets tangled in the machine. Helppppp!!!!

    • @Thecraftyblacksheep
      @Thecraftyblacksheep 3 года назад

      You using a premiums bobbin? Also look up lower thread tension

    • @onezshul
      @onezshul 3 года назад

      Check your backing

  • @loudpackshawty5849
    @loudpackshawty5849 3 года назад

    My se600 is brand new I know how to thread it even fish the bobbin thread..😔I just can’t get it to stitch smoothly and I’m afraid to alter with it..I’m new and eager to learn because I have so much I want to share with the world..I’ve been practicing but so far I just can’t get a smooth stitch like in this video, this is so frustrating I pray that God send someone my way to pass me the gems I need to succeed

  • @kennethlabaud3836
    @kennethlabaud3836 3 года назад

    How much does the machine cost

    • @imadish5356
      @imadish5356 3 года назад

      Camelcamelcamel is a good friend to have right now. So many machine prices are inflated because of covid.

    • @imanbenlemlih958
      @imanbenlemlih958 3 года назад

      @@imadish5356 what is it?

    • @onezshul
      @onezshul 3 года назад

      250-700

  • @24carrotgold8
    @24carrotgold8 6 месяцев назад

    I would have liked to see the backside too. 🙄