I think it’s to early to compare kaan with the raptor, but good to see both fighters and compare looks , I think they both look beautiful, hopefully they won’t meet face to face , peace.
Together we will see the difference between the technology of the 1990s and the technology of the 2020s. Brothers claiming to be models, I invite you to Turkey for their first flight at the end of 2023 or at the beginning of 2024. good luck
@@diazcanelsingao3243 personnes ne dit le contraire,mais si le KAAN tient ses promesses comme décrit sur le papier,alors on aura un F22 qui sera furtif(contrairement au F22 us) avec plus d'autonomie et sera accompagné de drone furtif anka 3(renseigner vous,il est en teste),donc normalement avec autant ou voir même plus de capacité et options, Et surtout le KAAN sera beaucoup moins chere(pour plusieurs raisons,moins chère de construire en Turquie,moins de corruption(pas que les turcs soit plus honnête,mais juste que les attentes et l'importance des projets sont de loin plus vitale pour les turcs, Le clientèlisme avec des lobbies qui ont fini par donner le monopole de l'industrie militaire américaine à quelques grosses sociétés qui ont enterré toute concurrence,ce qui rend par exemple impossible la naissance d'un bayraktar au usa etc etc Si le KAHAN tient ses promesses,il fera une entrée fracassante et prendra de grande part de marche même au rafale (qui est un très superbe appareil) qui sera plus chère que le KAAN avec moin de capacité,moins d'options,et sera l'événement qui obligera les autres puissance d'accepter la Turquie comme puissance régionale et internationale
It is pointless to compare the details of the Kaan with the F-22 at the moment, because there is no finished aircraft yet. after the Kaan flight tests begin, all the technologies to be put on it may differ, even 1 year after the aircraft starts flying, changes will continue. so it is pointless to compete in a pissing contest for now. My guess is that the finalized kaan will be a different concept. I suggest you look at how many times the production rate of turkey is above the world average and consider how quickly turkey has developed its own technology. most likely the kaan will be better than the f-22, but the biggest difference will be its own supersonic drone fleet. the kaan is not just a fighter jet, it is a flying command center.
Reasonable-perspective as those similarly design in comparason to those f-22. However, it can’t be compared f-35 lags behind in super-manuveribility in Hugh super sonic state unlike both kaan 5th gen.
@@User-ef4pgm3dre33bdsrd 5 months have passed since I wrote the article and Kaan made his first flight. Thereupon, the invisibility paint was completed a few days ago. The first take-off and landing tests were performed perfectly, I say this by looking at the first flight tests of similar aircraft. The stability controls of all similar aircraft are carried out by computer software. Then it is necessary to think about why Kaan can do this perfectly while others cannot do it as well as him. Kaan is still a prototype, the engine on it is two F16 engines, but it is a temporary engine, the engine that will actually be used is in the production phase and will have stealth features and will be much more powerful. A hybrid engine may also emerge as a surprise. After this plane made its first flight, that is, after it was seen that it was real, a partnership offer came to Turkey from America and Russia. Of course, it is impossible for Turkey to accept these partnership offers because it is considered to have already completed the aircraft and has some technologies that are superior to others. I can't write them all, but one of them is stealth paint. This paint does not need to be renewed constantly like F35 or F22, it is long-lasting and does not get damaged during sonic flights. For the production rate of the aircraft; US experts predicted that the first flight of this aircraft would not be possible before 2028, but Turkey announced that it planned to include it in its fleet with mass production in 2028. Even though the first flight was 2 months late compared to Turkey's planned date, it seems that Turkey has surprised the whole world in its production speed and will probably continue to surprise it.
@@yabaniiybn With current F-110 engines capable of 1.8 speeds, in 2027 TF-35000 engine which will research and produce advance features will sustain stealth latest feature using trump over F-22. It is-currentl being developed to include latest Turbofan engine State of Art features p a variable cycle. F-35 will be reduced to ash like scrap by TF-23 equal peer fight
America is a very interesting country. They do not want to sell anything as a technology product to Turkey. Air Defense system, Aircraft (F16 and F35), Missile launch system, Etc. Etc. Jet engines are the ones talked about lately. I'm sure they won't sell these either. It was very difficult to develop jet engines in the 1980s and 1990s. Nowadays, the work that took 1 year in the 1980-1990s can now be done in 1 month. Simulation systems have improved a lot, production technologies have improved, and countries' metallurgical knowledge has reached incredible levels. There is nothing more stupid than saying I don't sell products at a time like this. Turkey does not want to buy jet engines because it cannot produce them, it just wants to move forward a few years. America can sell these products now, but in a few years it won't even be able to give them as free gifts. They will lose to Turkey in this field, just like they lost in volleyball.
Kaan has not been completed yet, it will be developed, and it is currently in its infancy. If the f22 is in its infancy, a completed jet with the latest system technology has been around for about 20 years. It would be nonsense to compare the two.
@@loonator1995 f22 raptor, of course, the latest technology, we do not deny it, the main thing is, we will see what the Turks are doing on 27 December 2023. We are looking forward to that day. The plane that will make the f 35 cry will be in the sky, INSAALLAH.
Few years ago Turkey was going to purchase F16s, however the U.S SALE DID NOT include the complete codes in the event that Turk fought against another Nato COUNTRY, i.e Greece . So Turkey did not buy , INSTEAD fast forward and developed a superior fighter jet with only their overall control. Well done for going alone and thinking out the box. As yet not fully tested, but looks impressive!!
TFX Kaan, after borner kullanmadan 1.4 mach hız yapacak . bu rakam f 16 'nin after borner la ulaştığı en yüksek hız ve max 7 -8 dk öyle gidebiliyor. kaan saatlerce 1.4 mach hızla uçabilecek.. after borner la 1.8 e çıkıp yine saatlerce 1.8 mach hızla devam edebilecek
The F22 Raptor is above the Kaan. When we'll see the Turkish Kaan in flight , then we can compare the two aircrafts. What kind of a joke is this? Imagination is personal freedom, but only laughter comes out. First of all, I wish kaan a successful test flight.
Of course it is, until the first production type is in the air. Until then the F22 is king of the skies, after that it will be no more because KAAN will take over that spot.
technologies in military sector is very different from commercial ones. it does not go thru the advancement evolution you would expect in commercial sector. a phone from 2005 is definitely obsolete compared to a phone from 2023. however, in military, a technlogy has to be developed thru alot of investment (in term of billions) from a country and it doesn't share with anyone else once development is completed. It's not shared with the world so that other countries or companies can continue to build on top of that knowledge. so any assumption of automatic advancement thru the years is false. so an airplane like the f-22 can have technology that no other country can have CURRRENTLY unless they (turkey in this case) put the same time (in term of decades) and investment (in term of billions of dollars). f-22 is an accumulation of previous 2 generations of stealth design and experience (f-117, b-2) whereas the khaan stealth has to be built from the ground up. if you assume khaan is more advanced then you would have to assume that khaan somehow magically skipped 2 generations of stealth development.
@@nguquaxanguyen5224 You actually answered your own question. In other words, the same two weapons that you produce for your own use and for export in 2023 have completely different features. Which means: The weapon you produce for yourself is 2023 technology, but the weapon you produce to export is backward technology. The technology of the Russian S400s and the S400s we purchased are not the same. The reason for this is to prevent the technology from falling into the hands of others. That's why Russia cannot put SU57 warplanes on the battlefield in the Ukraine war. The same applies to all the weapons we export. especially for countries that are not partners in the development and production project! This does not change the conclusion that American F22s are 2005 technology. because they don't sell it and they haven't modernized it either. It is the former president of America who said that if they wanted to put the same technology on the same plane today, it would not cover the same area and this would cause balance problems on the plane. This statement was made after the Japanese insisted on purchasing F22s. Although I don't agree with the balance issue, I agree with the space they will take up. As for privacy, privacy is a relative concept. It is clear that design plays an important role in this, but it is not enough on its own. This includes engines. The designs of both aircraft are the same, but did you know that the heat emitted by the state-of-the-art engines of the so-called invisible F35 is 10 times more than the heat emitted by the F15 engine? Another factor for invisibility is the Ram paint and we have already produced it. So, what's left? Radar! As you said, if you use America's backward technology passive phased array radar, it is perfectly normal to think that American junk is state-of-the-art and invisible. Have you heard of MURAD, our active phased array radar? The process of assembling it on F16s and armed unmanned aerial vehicles modernized within the scope of the Özgür project has already started. American planes are invisible and state-of-the-art only to their taxpayers and customers. In short, just as their planes are state-of-the-art and invisible, ours will be at least as cutting-edge and invisible as their planes! We are not building 5th generation fighter jets, we are building 5.5 generation fighter jets. They aim to have our domestic engine, TF 6000, operational by the end of this year. It is aimed to produce 10,000 lb power by adding an arc burner later. In other words, although it is not better than the American engines, it will not be inferior to them, and the only remaining missing engine problem will be solved. I made all the necessary explanations. But you can still continue to think whatever you want and wait for a magic wand.
@@nguquaxanguyen5224 Wait and see, my friend... The people running this business in Turkey are people trained in top-level companies and universities in the USA... Currently, TUSAŞ Motor Sanayii A.Ş. is developing the engine for KAAN. (TEI/ TUSAS Engine Industries), CEO is Prof.Mahmut Akşit...Akşit's father (Theologian Prof Cevat Akşit) tells that his son's boss in America put a blank check in front of him to take Mahmut Akşit away. And the theologian Prof Cevat Akşit tells his son, I DON'T WANT AN AMERICAN GRANDCHILDREN....(Because he sees that the growing generation is assimilated) ruclips.net/video/hXR9rq63rgQ/видео.html
@@onurcan8434lmao that's even more embarrassing. You're trying to beat a jet from 2005😂😂 while US is developing theore advanced NGAD program. What's more f22 was developed as early in the 90s. You fighting 90s tech and still losing😂. Turkey is so mighty
@@onurcan8434 you don't have to explain it all including the technical terms and use cases of each component developed for the TF-X. everybody knows the average comprehension capacity of am*ricans. and then you get the 120kg gamers and pewdiepie watchers with IQs even lower than a banana (avg us citizen) talking about the same shitty whatever thing they've been developing since 2014 and still couldn't get anywhere. they wouldn't even admit they got beaten by Russia, China, UK,... and even Turkey in terms of swarm operation capabilities of unmanned fighter jets, piloted fighter jets, and unmanned turbofan planes. they'll be shocked when the world turns and they lose their self-given "king" throne lmfao. can't wait to see them trying to work for some extra yuans or rubles with their small brains. gonna be a really pathetic downfall, already started 😮
unmathed comparation f 22 outdated, kaan's pilot will be a general army of hundreds of drones, unmanned submarines unmanned helicopters by by f 22 thats what Turkish space tech lets you to know for now
F22 is not an updated platfrom and US not planning to improve it. So eventually if developlment of KAAN contiunes it will overmatch it by newer technologies.
Good review however F22 is at leat 30 years old ageing technology. Even with the upgrades there is not going to be any comparison what's so ever. Just like the state of the art Turkish armed drones which have prroven themselves in a variety of combat situations from Libya to Syria & Ukraine to Armenia, the king of the kings TFX KAAN is going to rule the skies for decades to come. All the enemies of Turks going to be humbled in front of KAAN.
Stop blowing smoke up everyones ass about an aviation technology that hasn't even flown yet. Do you have a glass ball that can see into the future? No, you do not. You sound like you are drunk. The F22 and F35 can humble you and any nation that threatens NATO today.
Yes, Turkey's centuries of fighter manufacture that never happened will immediately build a plane better than 90's tech Turkey hasn't developed yet... Sure bud
US never won a war against muslim. West say they are focused on quality instead of quantity. Yemen sent 2000$ drone, US used 4 million dollar missile to shoot it down. It took 20 years 4 president 6 trillion to replace Taliban with Taliban. Turks are brave troops. They didn't invent Western tech but they know how to use it better than western soldiers. It takes will to win war. Expensive weapons doesn't make good soldiers. Turkish Cheap drones are better than other expensive drone. Their jets will be better.
The Kaan is a prototype, By the time the Kaan is ready for mass production it will be outdated. The F22 is a proven and combat capable Gen 5 fighter aircraft platform that is currently in mass production. The F22 can be upgraded as newer technology becomes available through out its life span. The next generation, gen 6 US fighter project has been on going for 5 years now, When the US gets its Gen 6 fighter it will be in production, mean-while turkey will still be in the prototype stages with its gen 5 Kaan. I can't see turkey ever being ahead of the US.
@@spongebob7296 the point was never to be “ahead of the us” and your claim of “it will me outdated when it’s mass produced” is such a dumb and ignorant comment it’s unbelievably funny. It’s been decades since the f22 and the f16 have been out and are they outdated? I think not. Turkey also has the capabilities of upgrading their jets that that have produced themselves.
@@hmhn4094 Woah easy there tiger lol Sounds like you are taking it way too personally. Do you have money invested in the Kaan project? Sorry if I hit a nerv but I was merely stating facts. You clearly don't know the due process of getting a "prototype" to final production. Nothing can be finalized until the Kaan has passed the prototype stage. Moreover it needs its power plant tests to be conducted on test beds for a year or so depending on a multitude of variables that can go wrong, and things will go wrong because that's why its called the "prototype stage" power plants and power plant management systems and the fly by wire system redundancies need to be proven in order to achieve the required testing results that have come from thousands of hours of running the systems and mechanics thru the most extreme conditions that the platform will encounter, the process of sorting out the deficiencies and software bugs and weapons systems, radar, etc. etc. along with its cockpit control management and software pilot interface for its radar and weapons systems then it needs to be flight tested to make sure the plane can pass the rigorous stress and structural tests, and then its off to being certified by the different third party certification agencies that can take up to a couple of years or so depending on the efficiency of the bureaucracy process. And then when everything is passed certification of the many aspects of passing them then they can start with the first batch of say 4-6 actual first domestic production orders and we haven't even began talking about the support and maintenance programs that will follow the Kaan into its full expected future life span. This is why I wrote what I wrote because its extremely difficult to achieve this and they are no where near in the clear yet. I do wish the Kaan project to become a success and I guess we will have to wait a long while before we see the results.
@@spongebob7296 Have you heard of turkish stubbornness 6 months ago, turkey successfully flew the hurjet in the f16 type kaan will fly in september 2023 turkey will never waste its money also there is a key company that produces serious parts of all kinds of planes and helicopters flying in the world with the ability to produce f16 from scratch var also made f35 trunks
KAAN will need 6 to 8 years to reach its full capacity, complying with all 5th gen requirements, including engines. F22 is an established, successful machine. We can have a fair comparison in 8 years. KAAN is slightly larger than F22 and using newer, up to date technology. Considering F22 has been in service for decades. But again i guess we will see when KAAN is fully in service
Cutting edge technology KAAN?? KANN didn't even flew yet. If fighter jet is still on the ground, no better than a paper plane. It can't even be compared with any type of jet fighter at all!
When we'll see the Turkish kaan in flight , then we can compare the two aircrafts...so far we only see an F-22 Turkish copy scale model on the ground...
That is not a scale model. That is pre-production no.0 and 1 planes which are designed, parts produced and built as a plane with engines and avionics installed. Ground tests are ongoing. Not wooden mockups.
Ottoman Empire is back again, on its foot, to rule the whole world in peace and diversity, Ottoman posses more sophisticated and more cutting edge technologies than than diminishing rival Usa,
Bir Türk olarak F-22'ye hayranım. Tam bir sanat eseri . Savaş uçağı olarak değil bir mühendislik ve tasarım harikası olarak görmek gerek. ABD bu eserle ne kadar gurur duysa az. Bizim Kaan F-22'den daha iyi olmasını beklemiyorum. Bizim uçağımız olması yeter benim için.
Hedefini kucuk tutan hayatta asla basarili olamaz. F22’yi ustun kilan her unsurden daha ustun cihazlara sahip olacak KAAN. Sadece kendisine has uretilen TEI motorunun performansi belirsiz
@@TheArtofWarChina Its not hyper and its definitely not theoretical. TEI is working for a long time now to produce dedicated engines for KAAN. There are already prototypes of the engine but it wont be used because the 2 prototypes of the KAAN that are available now already have the F1xx engine. The mass production versions of KAAN will all have their own engine. There is also a backup plan if the TEI engine would not be on time. The joint venture engine of TEI and an Ukrainian jet engine manufacturer will be used until the TEI dedicated engines are finished.
F22 old comes jet the technology kaan 100 times better kaan only needs to fly with a Turkish engine then the F22 can be put in the garage,,,,,world best technology has kaan and not 5 gen 6 gen kaan will fly with anka 3 or with kizilelma and only drone attacks does not make f22.
How thinks look now is that KAAN will be technologically more advanced than the F22. Its missiles, radar and stealthiness will be more advanced compared to the F22. Can you also explain how you come to the conclusion that an older fighter will have the upper hand over a newer fighter? I can name a few reasons but it won’t be inappropriate to name it here… it has something to do with genitalia’s.
Çok saçma ya kaan çıkalı ne olduki bi F22 ile kıyaslamak nedir adamlar 100 yıldır uçağın mucidi biz yeni başladık bukadarda parlatmayın daha uçmadı bile
The Kaan is still pretty far away from entering service. They still need to secure a deal with Rolls-Royce to produce engines locally and Aselsan hasn't developed the radar yet.
Lo más importante es que pronto todos nuestros amigos y aliados tendrán aviones de combate de última generación que Estados Unidos no ha vendido a nadie.
@@onurcan8434 Si se refiere al F-35, si lo ha vendido incluso al Japón. Pero si habla sobre Turquía, vuestra hermosa nación, ya sabemos porqué no lo han podido adquirir.
@@legionariodemilbatallas_57-62 En realidad estaba hablando del tema F22. El F35, un junco volador monomotor, no alcanza un nivel comparable al de este avión. Aún no hemos recibido el dinero que pagamos, pero es bueno que nos sacaran del proyecto. Es como si el avión estuviera hecho para caer, no para volar. Japón tenía muchas ganas de comprar el avión F22, pero Estados Unidos no quiere venderlo. Japón es un país que es más amigable y aliado con nosotros que muchos países. Escuché que quieren probar nuestros vehículos aéreos no tripulados armados, pero no he oído que se haya llegado a un acuerdo de venta todavía. Si Japón quiere comprarlo, puede comprar todos nuestros modelos de aviones, vehículos aéreos no tripulados y helicópteros. Porque tenemos más de un proyecto tan ambicioso como TFX. como nuestro avión ligero de combate, apoyo y entrenamiento HÜR KUŞ, nuestro avión de combate no tripulado KIZIL ELMA y nuestro helicóptero de guerra Apache T929 ATAK equivalente.
Por supuesto, lamentablemente no todos están todavía en producción en masa. No debemos olvidar decir. Pero a partir del próximo año comenzará la producción en masa de la mayoría de ellos. Por supuesto, Estados Unidos no querrá que el dinero llegue a nosotros. A este factor también hay que sumarle.
@@onurcan8434 El F-35 no ha parado su producción. El Sukhoi SU-57 aún no ha iniciado. Ahora bien, si con "el dinero" se refiere a la venta del avión turco, recuerde que muchas naciones asiáticas (musulmanas o no), y de Latinoamerica si que lo comprarían pues sería una opción más aceptable (para no ofender a Washington) que el 5ª generación chino. Y allí está el *"target"* al que debe apuntar Turquía.
Everyone claims they can beat the F-22 till they’re dead and thinking they were killed by a Mach 2 bumblebee. Good luck you might be able to play with an old F-14 with 1 engine. The F-22 is in a league of its own
It's amusing and telling that no air force on the planet can generate an original idea on a stealth aircraft, post-F-22 They're all copies - to a greater or lesser extent - of American ingenuity and technology. This plane has never flown a mission and they're touting as an equal to the raptor. The F-22, F-35 and the Sukhoi series of fighters are the premiere, battle tested fighter aircraft on the planet. Everybody else is playing catch-up.
@@terraforces it only work on defence less armania because Grease have f35 Rafael stealth means not only body structure china invest huge amount still lag a true fifth generation fighter it's need time huge investment rnd
Thinking that you are uncatchable, untouchable is one great reason to find yourself in a downwards spiral, even if you can produce top of the notch fighters, others can always outperform, outclass you. F22 is an engineering marvel but that does not mean that others cant make a better fighter.
What kind of a joke is this? Where the heck is turkey going to get the technology to build q jet fighter? Let along a 5th gen stealth fighter? This country can't even make its own tank and had to beg for a powerpack from korea 😂 5th gen fighter is not a drone you people lol turkey can't even make a drone without importing all key components from other countries. 😅
turkiye isnt crying for anything we told you to give back our money for the f35s biden said we can give you f35s if you give s400 to ukraine we said no then he said then we can modernize your f16s we said ok but america as a nation with no honor or anything similiar did lie and didnt hold its word again
Kaan is better
It flew once without any weapons or radar.
I think it’s to early to compare kaan with the raptor, but good to see both fighters and compare looks , I think they both look beautiful, hopefully they won’t meet face to face , peace.
Well done Turks Kaan is in the air finally
F35 uçamıyor ama
Together we will see the difference between the technology of the 1990s and the technology of the 2020s. Brothers claiming to be models, I invite you to Turkey for their first flight at the end of 2023 or at the beginning of 2024. good luck
i will love to brother
Machallah
And you think that f22 don’t have the latest technology 🤣🤣🤣
@@diazcanelsingao3243 personnes ne dit le contraire,mais si le KAAN tient ses promesses comme décrit sur le papier,alors on aura un F22 qui sera furtif(contrairement au F22 us) avec plus d'autonomie et sera accompagné de drone furtif anka 3(renseigner vous,il est en teste),donc normalement avec autant ou voir même plus de capacité et options,
Et surtout le KAAN sera beaucoup moins chere(pour plusieurs raisons,moins chère de construire en Turquie,moins de corruption(pas que les turcs soit plus honnête,mais juste que les attentes et l'importance des projets sont de loin plus vitale pour les turcs,
Le clientèlisme avec des lobbies qui ont fini par donner le monopole de l'industrie militaire américaine à quelques grosses sociétés qui ont enterré toute concurrence,ce qui rend par exemple impossible la naissance d'un bayraktar au usa etc etc
Si le KAHAN tient ses promesses,il fera une entrée fracassante et prendra de grande part de marche même au rafale (qui est un très superbe appareil) qui sera plus chère que le KAAN avec moin de capacité,moins d'options,et sera l'événement qui obligera les autres puissance d'accepter la Turquie comme puissance régionale et internationale
@@diazcanelsingao3243it's more embarrassing they're trying to beat a tech from the 90s
In December this year 2023 will the first flight of KAAN king of Kings😉
You see even you do not believe that
It is pointless to compare the details of the Kaan with the F-22 at the moment, because there is no finished aircraft yet. after the Kaan flight tests begin, all the technologies to be put on it may differ, even 1 year after the aircraft starts flying, changes will continue. so it is pointless to compete in a pissing contest for now. My guess is that the finalized kaan will be a different concept. I suggest you look at how many times the production rate of turkey is above the world average and consider how quickly turkey has developed its own technology. most likely the kaan will be better than the f-22, but the biggest difference will be its own supersonic drone fleet. the kaan is not just a fighter jet, it is a flying command center.
Reasonable-perspective as those similarly design in comparason to those f-22. However, it can’t be compared f-35 lags behind in super-manuveribility in Hugh super sonic state unlike both kaan 5th gen.
@@User-ef4pgm3dre33bdsrd 5 months have passed since I wrote the article and Kaan made his first flight. Thereupon, the invisibility paint was completed a few days ago. The first take-off and landing tests were performed perfectly, I say this by looking at the first flight tests of similar aircraft. The stability controls of all similar aircraft are carried out by computer software. Then it is necessary to think about why Kaan can do this perfectly while others cannot do it as well as him. Kaan is still a prototype, the engine on it is two F16 engines, but it is a temporary engine, the engine that will actually be used is in the production phase and will have stealth features and will be much more powerful. A hybrid engine may also emerge as a surprise. After this plane made its first flight, that is, after it was seen that it was real, a partnership offer came to Turkey from America and Russia. Of course, it is impossible for Turkey to accept these partnership offers because it is considered to have already completed the aircraft and has some technologies that are superior to others. I can't write them all, but one of them is stealth paint. This paint does not need to be renewed constantly like F35 or F22, it is long-lasting and does not get damaged during sonic flights. For the production rate of the aircraft; US experts predicted that the first flight of this aircraft would not be possible before 2028, but Turkey announced that it planned to include it in its fleet with mass production in 2028. Even though the first flight was 2 months late compared to Turkey's planned date, it seems that Turkey has surprised the whole world in its production speed and will probably continue to surprise it.
@@yabaniiybn With current F-110 engines capable of 1.8 speeds, in 2027 TF-35000 engine which will research and produce advance features will sustain stealth latest feature using trump over F-22. It is-currentl being developed to include latest Turbofan engine State of Art features p a variable cycle. F-35 will be reduced to ash like scrap by TF-23 equal peer fight
Turkish air force perfect
2024.02.21 TFX KAAN make their First successfully flight.
Respekt an die Türkei Grüße 🖖 aus Deutschland
America is a very interesting country.
They do not want to sell anything as a technology product to Turkey.
Air Defense system, Aircraft (F16 and F35), Missile launch system, Etc. Etc. Jet engines are the ones talked about lately. I'm sure they won't sell these either. It was very difficult to develop jet engines in the 1980s and 1990s. Nowadays, the work that took 1 year in the 1980-1990s can now be done in 1 month. Simulation systems have improved a lot, production technologies have improved, and countries' metallurgical knowledge has reached incredible levels. There is nothing more stupid than saying I don't sell products at a time like this. Turkey does not want to buy jet engines because it cannot produce them, it just wants to move forward a few years. America can sell these products now, but in a few years it won't even be able to give them as free gifts. They will lose to Turkey in this field, just like they lost in volleyball.
Kaan has not been completed yet, it will be developed, and it is currently in its infancy. If the f22 is in its infancy, a completed jet with the latest system technology has been around for about 20 years. It would be nonsense to compare the two.
latest technology and 20 years old in one sentence. If thats no contradiction I don't know what is.
@@loonator1995 f22 raptor, of course, the latest technology, we do not deny it, the main thing is, we will see what the Turks are doing on 27 December 2023. We are looking forward to that day. The plane that will make the f 35 cry will be in the sky, INSAALLAH.
🤜🏻100%🤛🏻
50 yıl sonra kım patron görücez.
@@ibrahimozsarac4905 while you focus on defeating the f35, the US is on its way to create the NGAD program 🤣. Inshallah indeed
Few years ago Turkey was going to purchase F16s, however the U.S SALE DID NOT include the complete codes in the event that Turk fought against another Nato COUNTRY, i.e Greece . So Turkey did not buy , INSTEAD fast forward and developed a superior fighter jet with only their overall control. Well done for going alone and thinking out the box. As yet not fully tested, but looks impressive!!
Kan is better
At what?
Kaan is gonna be 2024 technology not 2004 technology like raptor.
KAAN is newer technology and it will outperform F-22 when it is finished
F22 ancient
Y’all are dumb to think this
Currently it is underperforming when compared with F-22
TFX Kaan, after borner kullanmadan 1.4 mach hız yapacak . bu rakam f 16 'nin after borner la ulaştığı en yüksek hız ve max 7 -8 dk öyle gidebiliyor. kaan saatlerce 1.4 mach hızla uçabilecek.. after borner la 1.8 e çıkıp yine saatlerce 1.8 mach hızla devam edebilecek
Burner o, borner değil. afterburner = "art yakıcı" after borner = "art doğucu" (korku filmlerinde iblis çocuğa verilebilecek bir isim)
The F22 Raptor is above the Kaan.
When we'll see the Turkish Kaan in flight , then we can compare the two aircrafts.
What kind of a joke is this?
Imagination is personal freedom, but only laughter comes out.
First of all, I wish kaan a successful test flight.
Of course it is, until the first production type is in the air. Until then the F22 is king of the skies, after that it will be no more because KAAN will take over that spot.
Remember, F22 is the technology of 2005.
technologies in military sector is very different from commercial ones. it does not go thru the advancement evolution you would expect in commercial sector. a phone from 2005 is definitely obsolete compared to a phone from 2023. however, in military, a technlogy has to be developed thru alot of investment (in term of billions) from a country and it doesn't share with anyone else once development is completed. It's not shared with the world so that other countries or companies can continue to build on top of that knowledge. so any assumption of automatic advancement thru the years is false. so an airplane like the f-22 can have technology that no other country can have CURRRENTLY unless they (turkey in this case) put the same time (in term of decades) and investment (in term of billions of dollars). f-22 is an accumulation of previous 2 generations of stealth design and experience (f-117, b-2) whereas the khaan stealth has to be built from the ground up. if you assume khaan is more advanced then you would have to assume that khaan somehow magically skipped 2 generations of stealth development.
@@nguquaxanguyen5224 You actually answered your own question. In other words, the same two weapons that you produce for your own use and for export in 2023 have completely different features. Which means: The weapon you produce for yourself is 2023 technology, but the weapon you produce to export is backward technology. The technology of the Russian S400s and the S400s we purchased are not the same. The reason for this is to prevent the technology from falling into the hands of others. That's why Russia cannot put SU57 warplanes on the battlefield in the Ukraine war. The same applies to all the weapons we export. especially for countries that are not partners in the development and production project! This does not change the conclusion that American F22s are 2005 technology. because they don't sell it and they haven't modernized it either. It is the former president of America who said that if they wanted to put the same technology on the same plane today, it would not cover the same area and this would cause balance problems on the plane. This statement was made after the Japanese insisted on purchasing F22s. Although I don't agree with the balance issue, I agree with the space they will take up. As for privacy, privacy is a relative concept. It is clear that design plays an important role in this, but it is not enough on its own. This includes engines. The designs of both aircraft are the same, but did you know that the heat emitted by the state-of-the-art engines of the so-called invisible F35 is 10 times more than the heat emitted by the F15 engine? Another factor for invisibility is the Ram paint and we have already produced it. So, what's left? Radar! As you said, if you use America's backward technology passive phased array radar, it is perfectly normal to think that American junk is state-of-the-art and invisible. Have you heard of MURAD, our active phased array radar? The process of assembling it on F16s and armed unmanned aerial vehicles modernized within the scope of the Özgür project has already started. American planes are invisible and state-of-the-art only to their taxpayers and customers. In short, just as their planes are state-of-the-art and invisible, ours will be at least as cutting-edge and invisible as their planes! We are not building 5th generation fighter jets, we are building 5.5 generation fighter jets. They aim to have our domestic engine, TF 6000, operational by the end of this year. It is aimed to produce 10,000 lb power by adding an arc burner later. In other words, although it is not better than the American engines, it will not be inferior to them, and the only remaining missing engine problem will be solved. I made all the necessary explanations. But you can still continue to think whatever you want and wait for a magic wand.
@@nguquaxanguyen5224
Wait and see, my friend...
The people running this business in Turkey are people trained in top-level companies and universities in the USA... Currently, TUSAŞ Motor Sanayii A.Ş. is developing the engine for KAAN. (TEI/ TUSAS Engine Industries), CEO is Prof.Mahmut Akşit...Akşit's father
(Theologian Prof Cevat Akşit) tells that his son's boss in America put a blank check in front of him to take Mahmut Akşit away. And the theologian Prof Cevat Akşit tells his son, I DON'T WANT AN AMERICAN GRANDCHILDREN....(Because he sees that the growing generation is assimilated)
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@@onurcan8434lmao that's even more embarrassing. You're trying to beat a jet from 2005😂😂 while US is developing theore advanced NGAD program. What's more f22 was developed as early in the 90s. You fighting 90s tech and still losing😂. Turkey is so mighty
@@onurcan8434 you don't have to explain it all including the technical terms and use cases of each component developed for the TF-X. everybody knows the average comprehension capacity of am*ricans.
and then you get the 120kg gamers and pewdiepie watchers with IQs even lower than a banana (avg us citizen) talking about the same shitty whatever thing they've been developing since 2014 and still couldn't get anywhere. they wouldn't even admit they got beaten by Russia, China, UK,... and even Turkey in terms of swarm operation capabilities of unmanned fighter jets, piloted fighter jets, and unmanned turbofan planes. they'll be shocked when the world turns and they lose their self-given "king" throne lmfao. can't wait to see them trying to work for some extra yuans or rubles with their small brains. gonna be a really pathetic downfall, already started 😮
KAAN is coming soon InsaaAllah ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
It’s like Competition between Professor and Students.
If the student was 3 years old
The professor never outsmarts the student but the student occasionally outsmarts it professor.
@@marvingillespie6199 today Kaan is fırst fly
Now you can see that student flying through the air.
I bet the F22 Raptor is still above the Tfx bro
Until the USA does not want to sell it to anyone So think about that😅😅
maybe turkey will, just maybe
unmathed comparation f 22 outdated, kaan's pilot will be a general army of hundreds of drones, unmanned submarines unmanned helicopters by by f 22 thats what Turkish space tech lets you to know for now
Turkey will sell this aircraft to Pakistan
F22 is not an updated platfrom and US not planning to improve it. So eventually if developlment of KAAN contiunes it will overmatch it by newer technologies.
@@mamamia6513 ages like milk
Türkiye but not Turkey..
Good review however F22 is at leat 30 years old ageing technology. Even with the upgrades there is not going to be any comparison what's so ever. Just like the state of the art Turkish armed drones which have prroven themselves in a variety of combat situations from Libya to Syria & Ukraine to Armenia, the king of the kings TFX KAAN is going to rule the skies for decades to come. All the enemies of Turks going to be humbled in front of KAAN.
Stop blowing smoke up everyones ass about an aviation technology that hasn't even flown yet. Do you have a glass ball that can see into the future? No, you do not. You sound like you are drunk. The F22 and F35 can humble you and any nation that threatens NATO today.
Turkish drones aren't state of the art. They are McDonald's if drones. Fast and cheap.
Yes, Turkey's centuries of fighter manufacture that never happened will immediately build a plane better than 90's tech Turkey hasn't developed yet... Sure bud
US never won a war against muslim. West say they are focused on quality instead of quantity. Yemen sent 2000$ drone, US used 4 million dollar missile to shoot it down. It took 20 years 4 president 6 trillion to replace Taliban with Taliban. Turks are brave troops. They didn't invent Western tech but they know how to use it better than western soldiers. It takes will to win war. Expensive weapons doesn't make good soldiers. Turkish Cheap drones are better than other expensive drone. Their jets will be better.
@@diollinebranderson6553 So, 33 countrries that buy Turkish drones do not their drones from Mc Donalds🤣🤣
The Kaan is a prototype, By the time the Kaan is ready for mass production it will be outdated. The F22 is a proven and combat capable Gen 5 fighter aircraft platform that is currently in mass production. The F22 can be upgraded as newer technology becomes available through out its life span. The next generation, gen 6 US fighter project has been on going for 5 years now, When the US gets its Gen 6 fighter it will be in production, mean-while turkey will still be in the prototype stages with its gen 5 Kaan. I can't see turkey ever being ahead of the US.
But kaan is more advanced in terms of technology and it's new not old like f22
Not true. Kaans technology is inferior to Lockheed. @@nighthawk4298
@@spongebob7296 the point was never to be “ahead of the us” and your claim of “it will me outdated when it’s mass produced” is such a dumb and ignorant comment it’s unbelievably funny. It’s been decades since the f22 and the f16 have been out and are they outdated? I think not. Turkey also has the capabilities of upgrading their jets that that have produced themselves.
@@hmhn4094 Woah easy there tiger lol Sounds like you are taking it way too personally. Do you have money invested in the Kaan project? Sorry if I hit a nerv but I was merely stating facts. You clearly don't know the due process of getting a "prototype" to final production. Nothing can be finalized until the Kaan has passed the prototype stage. Moreover it needs its power plant tests to be conducted on test beds for a year or so depending on a multitude of variables that can go wrong, and things will go wrong because that's why its called the "prototype stage" power plants and power plant management systems and the fly by wire system redundancies need to be proven in order to achieve the required testing results that have come from thousands of hours of running the systems and mechanics thru the most extreme conditions that the platform will encounter, the process of sorting out the deficiencies and software bugs and weapons systems, radar, etc. etc. along with its cockpit control management and software pilot interface for its radar and weapons systems then it needs to be flight tested to make sure the plane can pass the rigorous stress and structural tests, and then its off to being certified by the different third party certification agencies that can take up to a couple of years or so depending on the efficiency of the bureaucracy process. And then when everything is passed certification of the many aspects of passing them then they can start with the first batch of say 4-6 actual first domestic production orders and we haven't even began talking about the support and maintenance programs that will follow the Kaan into its full expected future life span. This is why I wrote what I wrote because its extremely difficult to achieve this and they are no where near in the clear yet. I do wish the Kaan project to become a success and I guess we will have to wait a long while before we see the results.
@@spongebob7296 Have you heard of turkish stubbornness 6 months ago, turkey successfully flew the hurjet in the f16 type kaan will fly in september 2023 turkey will never waste its money also there is a key company that produces serious parts of all kinds of planes and helicopters flying in the world with the ability to produce f16 from scratch var also made f35 trunks
Смешно сравнивать турецкий макет с самолётом который уже уходит на пенсию 😂😂😂😂
Рано отправляешь F-22 в пенсию .Даже Китай и Россия внешний копирует F-22. Возьми су 57 .Советское время так не было и самолеты намного отличались
KAAN will need 6 to 8 years to reach its full capacity, complying with all 5th gen requirements, including engines. F22 is an established, successful machine. We can have a fair comparison in 8 years. KAAN is slightly larger than F22 and using newer, up to date technology. Considering F22 has been in service for decades. But again i guess we will see when KAAN is fully in service
Cutting edge technology KAAN?? KANN didn't even flew yet. If fighter jet is still on the ground, no better than a paper plane. It can't even be compared with any type of jet fighter at all!
yes it flew
🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷
When we'll see the Turkish kaan in flight , then we can compare the two aircrafts...so far we only see an F-22 Turkish copy scale model on the ground...
That is not a scale model. That is pre-production no.0 and 1 planes which are designed, parts produced and built as a plane with engines and avionics installed. Ground tests are ongoing. Not wooden mockups.
tfx is better
@@mavi.blue.yesil.3901
I really hope so..👍
Compared to f-22 leptors in the US? Isn't that crazy? Imagination is personal freedom, but only laughter comes out... hahahaha
f22 raptor 200 m$ - 216 m$ per plane but kaan tfx is 100 or 110 m$ per plane.. yea thats right, its like buying a mercedes benz on hyundai price tag.
Ottoman Empire is back again, on its foot, to rule the whole world in peace and diversity, Ottoman posses more sophisticated and more cutting edge technologies than than diminishing rival Usa,
And they haven’t managed
Ambargolar icin cok sagol sozde nato muttefiklerimiz. Yakinda kendi nato birligimizi kuracagiz, ve icindeki bu kanser natodan kurtulacagiz.
The Best of World Präsident is TÜRKISH PRÄSIDENT ERDOGAN ♥️ ♥️ ♥️ ♥️ ♥️ ♥️ ♥️
Bir Türk olarak F-22'ye hayranım.
Tam bir sanat eseri . Savaş uçağı olarak değil bir mühendislik ve tasarım harikası olarak görmek gerek.
ABD bu eserle ne kadar gurur duysa az.
Bizim Kaan F-22'den daha iyi olmasını beklemiyorum. Bizim uçağımız olması yeter benim için.
Hedefini kucuk tutan hayatta asla basarili olamaz. F22’yi ustun kilan her unsurden daha ustun cihazlara sahip olacak KAAN. Sadece kendisine has uretilen TEI motorunun performansi belirsiz
Kahpeeeee
Engine will release heat signals
How do you compare the two when Turkiye doesn't even have it's own engine development?
The prototype has not got own produced engines, the finished KAAN will most definitely have its own dedicated engine. Learn your facts please!
@@oguzhan9424 what you are saying to hypertheorical...If and will. You speak like it's set and stone.
@@TheArtofWarChina
Its not hyper and its definitely not theoretical. TEI is working for a long time now to produce dedicated engines for KAAN. There are already prototypes of the engine but it wont be used because the 2 prototypes of the KAAN that are available now already have the F1xx engine. The mass production versions of KAAN will all have their own engine. There is also a backup plan if the TEI engine would not be on time. The joint venture engine of TEI and an Ukrainian jet engine manufacturer will be used until the TEI dedicated engines are finished.
F22 old comes jet the technology kaan 100 times better kaan only needs to fly with a Turkish engine then the F22 can be put in the garage,,,,,world best technology has kaan and not 5 gen 6 gen kaan will fly with anka 3 or with kizilelma and only drone attacks does not make f22.
OK Turkey definitely deserves an appreciation for the TFX project. However, Amerikan made F 22 raptor will have the upper hand for sure.
Selin Hanım, not "Turkey", it is "Turkiye", please
Exactly. These guys commenting above are drunk.
How thinks look now is that KAAN will be technologically more advanced than the F22. Its missiles, radar and stealthiness will be more advanced compared to the F22. Can you also explain how you come to the conclusion that an older fighter will have the upper hand over a newer fighter? I can name a few reasons but it won’t be inappropriate to name it here… it has something to do with genitalia’s.
Super
Çok saçma ya kaan çıkalı ne olduki bi F22 ile kıyaslamak nedir adamlar 100 yıldır uçağın mucidi biz yeni başladık bukadarda parlatmayın daha uçmadı bile
Sen anlamadım algı yapmak bunun adı az da olsa reklam
I love kaan but kaan is like new born baby F22 alredy go to war like many year love from malaysia
이거 너무 나갔다 이제 목업 뱅기 띄우는데 어쩔려구 f 22랑 비교를 ㅋㅋㅋ
The Kaan is still pretty far away from entering service. They still need to secure a deal with Rolls-Royce to produce engines locally and Aselsan hasn't developed the radar yet.
I can only take the comparison of the 2 aircraft as a joke.
일단~~~~~~은 날고 얘기하자^^😮
El "duro duelo" será realmente uno entre el 5ta. generación turco y el símil ruso en los cielos ucranianos (6:30).
Lo más importante es que pronto todos nuestros amigos y aliados tendrán aviones de combate de última generación que Estados Unidos no ha vendido a nadie.
@@onurcan8434 Si se refiere al F-35, si lo ha vendido incluso al Japón. Pero si habla sobre Turquía, vuestra hermosa nación, ya sabemos porqué no lo han podido adquirir.
@@legionariodemilbatallas_57-62 En realidad estaba hablando del tema F22. El F35, un junco volador monomotor, no alcanza un nivel comparable al de este avión. Aún no hemos recibido el dinero que pagamos, pero es bueno que nos sacaran del proyecto. Es como si el avión estuviera hecho para caer, no para volar. Japón tenía muchas ganas de comprar el avión F22, pero Estados Unidos no quiere venderlo. Japón es un país que es más amigable y aliado con nosotros que muchos países. Escuché que quieren probar nuestros vehículos aéreos no tripulados armados, pero no he oído que se haya llegado a un acuerdo de venta todavía. Si Japón quiere comprarlo, puede comprar todos nuestros modelos de aviones, vehículos aéreos no tripulados y helicópteros. Porque tenemos más de un proyecto tan ambicioso como TFX. como nuestro avión ligero de combate, apoyo y entrenamiento HÜR KUŞ, nuestro avión de combate no tripulado KIZIL ELMA y nuestro helicóptero de guerra Apache T929 ATAK equivalente.
Por supuesto, lamentablemente no todos están todavía en producción en masa. No debemos olvidar decir. Pero a partir del próximo año comenzará la producción en masa de la mayoría de ellos. Por supuesto, Estados Unidos no querrá que el dinero llegue a nosotros. A este factor también hay que sumarle.
@@onurcan8434 El F-35 no ha parado su producción. El Sukhoi SU-57 aún no ha iniciado. Ahora bien, si con "el dinero" se refiere a la venta del avión turco, recuerde que muchas naciones asiáticas (musulmanas o no), y de Latinoamerica si que lo comprarían pues sería una opción más aceptable (para no ofender a Washington) que el 5ª generación chino. Y allí está el *"target"* al que debe apuntar Turquía.
Vestel bilgisayar ile Alienware karşılaştırmak gibi😂
Everyone claims they can beat the F-22 till they’re dead and thinking they were killed by a Mach 2 bumblebee. Good luck you might be able to play with an old F-14 with 1 engine. The F-22 is in a league of its own
It's amusing and telling that no air force on the planet can generate an original idea on a stealth aircraft, post-F-22 They're all copies - to a greater or lesser extent - of American ingenuity and technology. This plane has never flown a mission and they're touting as an equal to the raptor. The F-22, F-35 and the Sukhoi series of fighters are the premiere, battle tested fighter aircraft on the planet. Everybody else is playing catch-up.
at some point i was agree with you brother
@@terraforces it only work on defence less armania because Grease have f35 Rafael stealth means not only body structure china invest huge amount still lag a true fifth generation fighter it's need time huge investment rnd
F22 is never battle tested on any battlefied. Only kill of F22 is chinese spy balloon.
Thinking that you are uncatchable, untouchable is one great reason to find yourself in a downwards spiral, even if you can produce top of the notch fighters, others can always outperform, outclass you. F22 is an engineering marvel but that does not mean that others cant make a better fighter.
한국산 수입한거 아님? 아니면 카피본?
What kind of a joke is this? Where the heck is turkey going to get the technology to build q jet fighter? Let along a 5th gen stealth fighter? This country can't even make its own tank and had to beg for a powerpack from korea 😂 5th gen fighter is not a drone you people lol turkey can't even make a drone without importing all key components from other countries. 😅
Wait and see
Giant is weak up
ورودی هوای موتور توربو فن جنگنده کوچک است
Ruslarda öyle
😲😲😲😲👏👏👏👍👍👍👍
😂😂😂
To me , in terms of comparation, I'd take KAAN.
superb review
F35 junk
一般般了，土耳其又没有发动机技术
If this true why turkey is crying for a f-16 fighter jets
Not crying for F16.. Turkey have more options. Euro fighter, SU series (russia).. and making turkish aircrafts. Turkey acting very right.
turkiye isnt crying for anything we told you to give back our money for the f35s biden said we can give you f35s if you give s400 to ukraine we said no then he said then we can modernize your f16s we said ok but america as a nation with no honor or anything similiar did lie and didnt hold its word again
f 16 needed today . Kaan will join the army in 2028 at the earliest.
Because this plane won't be ready for nearly a decade and they need more planes now?
Tries to improve current air force. You can not produce 300 planes at day one. This will take at least 5 years to be in service.
stupid comparsion one is a model the other an acomplished superiority fighter.
I subscribed... I wish you success... Greetings from Turkiye...
You cant compare those two at all 😂
퍽이나 잘도~
A copy of a Rolls Royce with no engine.