DEWALT FRAMER Why it's Not For Me
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- Опубликовано: 9 фев 2025
- Today's exciting episode includes a comparison of the Hitachi/hikoki framer vs the Dewalt Framer. Why I won't buy the Dewalt! We also catch up Karl the plumber
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"time for a beer" - Someone been watching crazy framer!
I bought this nail gun as we were planning to renew all the fencing in our back garden. As this involved 19 double slatted fence panels, 10 of which needed to be cut down in size, we knew there would be a need for a great ruclips.net/user/postUgkxHQsUrwNr5GQrnx9V4xDdUr56qxwuiBHt deal of re-stapling the wooden slats to the wooden framework. Each alteration required the re-stapling of 62 wooden slats with double staples. Prior to starting the work we ordered sufficient additional staples as per the instructions with the gun.The gun performed fantastically throughout the entire project with no jams of misfires. The adjustable power was excellent allowing the staples to be fired into the 8mm slats to the correct depth. For the price paid this was a bargain and it proved itself to be so reliable and versatile making an arduous task much quicker and professional. I cannot recommend this product highly enough and it will be used on many other projects in the future.
Paerau making sure to keep the freebies coming plugging the Airbow ......quick thinker that boy
I had the same problem with the nail depth when I got my Dewalt Nailer. Sent it back to Dewalt and they sorted it out. Shoots fine now.
If you didn't live on the other side of the globe, I'd like you to do all the carpentry work in the house I'm building! You are really good because you take care of every detail to perfection!
Where are you based Primula Rossa?? 🤣🤙
@@jamesbailand4311 You should be clearer because I didn't understand your message! I'm sorry!
"time for a beer"? Someone's been on the Crazy Framer channel!
hahaha
Adam Marshall lol just exactly what I was thinking
I run the Hitachi framer. Love the gun! It hasn't failed me yet even in awkward places I've had to use it. Keep up the great videos!
The Hitachi/Metabo is the best portable framer ever!
Pneumatic? I run Hitachi guns older then me. Heavy but solid. Only problem is the clip loosening and not liking two 8d clips.
I ran pneumatic but doing quick job or punch list the 18v that scottbrown demonstrated is in my opinion a good choice. Yea every tool has a flaw but pros are better then the cons at this time.
That noise would drive me nuts
I always look forward to your videos, it's so interesting to see the difference between building in other countries and Norway. And you manage to make it extra entertaining. Keep up the good work! :D
I learn something new every time you post a video! Thanks Scott!
As a vinyl layer we never use tile board to put vinyl on, maybe ply at a stretch but the tile board is to porous for our glues to work correctly.
Would a coat off feather finish fix that?
@@Soul1.i yea potentially but think the reason it's never allowed for is cause most people tend to want the fast cheap option and that's always to put 4.75mm thinline down and lay.
Loving the videos guys. I had this problem with my dewalt gun. It had been a while since I had used it. I forgot it had a depth adjuster for size of nails you are shooting under the rafter clasp! Worked a treat when I changed that! Lol. The hitachi looks sweet though! Keep building!
In uk we have the latest version that's fixed the 90mm nails not going in all the way I've had mine since jan and we only do oak exstentions and mine has been tip top and not missed a beat
Nice, look forward to checking out the upgrade some day
I've got the Dewalt , and only use 63mm nails max on hardwood . I've put 90mm nails on single shot overhead but bounce back is awful . Bump mode is very good . The wind up can get irritating . Works best on smaller nails imo .
Loving the videos from the caribbean here.......i gotta say the climate is similar to that of Trinidad and tobago...cheers!!
ive fired over 10k nails with dewalt, i find the only way to get all the power with it is on bump fire mode, using the momentum to not let it kick you back putting the energy into the nail, for over head work i prefer my paslode due to wait
It’s mostly people not using it correctly my boss has a gen 1 another bloke has the gen 2.
gen 1 had no problems with.
gen 2 was trouble from day one no power took over a year to come a little better now it’s serviced it’s better
You need to pull the trigger before the flywheel spools up on single shoot,
And bump fire works well
We fix the underlay with screws to prevent creaking
Hot tip... if you have clamps for you track saw rail, you can cut the door down in place without taking it off the jamb.
Works for festool track, I’m sure makita would work too
Also, I’m loving your videos from Australia
I'd like to try that
I’ll try find the post where I first saw it
Great idea
Another great video Scott I had one DEWALT nailer and returned it to the dewalt store and they told me to buy a paslode lol I have 2 hitachi framers now and am really happy with them for the most part only issue was this winter when it was -30 for couple weeks in Ontario batteries would die really fast but I think that can be said for any lithium ion batteries at those temperatures
All of my battery operated nail guns are Hitachi. Hitachi seems to fire the nail all the way in with virtually no ramp up time; however, they are a bit heavy. My philosophy is to use a tool that works for the job. Cheers from the States
Scott did you take note which gen the dewalt nailer was? The type 3 has improved loads it has the insides of the concrete nailer!
Next time you have to cut out a single board try standing on a 600mm framing square, use the side of the board you're cutting to get it at a right angle and press the multi tool up against square. Quick as. Done even need to mark it.
Scott brannon here.. Does anyone else hear that all the time? Lol. Like your videos a lot.!
Bro we do all our own minor plumbing. Saves time on waiting for the plumber
having spent 2 months free camping in NZ i enjoyed Paerau's long drop joke more than i really should have XD
2:35 That's the truck of Pixar movies haha
Good easter egg Scott
Purchased a Hitachi framing and finish nailer last summer (2018) and have not looked back since.
Hitachi for the WIN
How do you find the size and weight of both of them? That’s the only thing holding me back
Do u have any problems shooting 65mm fitout nails like not shooting the hole way in
Google Isevil - No issues re weight on either of my Hitachi guns. They’re comparable to
Just about every other brands.
My main concern when choosing was which brand has the highest quality and would not interfere with hardwood.
Not only that, but you can see the MASSIVE sound difference from both the Dewalt and Hitachi on this video.
Hitachi is equivalent to an electric car where the Dewalt is a bad out of hell mustang.
I’m trying to preserve my hearing for the KK g run.
adam nankivell - I have not experienced any issues thus far. I’m a remodeled, so I deal with all sorts of wood species and nail sizes.
My Hitachi cordless framing nailer is an absolute beast.
I am very happy with my purchase and will not look back!
Seeing that clean edge on the door may have sold me on the value of a track saw.
Just wondering, is that the type 3 Dewalt framing gun? or an earlier model?
Good to see Kiwi blokes doing a no nonsense review in real life situations - thanks for the video (I was actually looking at getting a Dewalt framing nail gun but now will need to do more research).
That mini airbag you used to lift the door, brilliant. Please give us some details of the make
Search RUclips for *Winbag* and *Air Shim* . There's video reviews about them.
Where do you get the air bags from to lift the door... very good idea bro
Scott what is your take on Sydney Opal Tower and is there any tall buildings like that in NZ?
"Did he die".....wasnt expecting that...nice....original....you two make building vlogs fun...
Greetings from the Midwest in the US. Enjoy your videos. Been in the market for a framing nailer and I been using a Paslode but been considering the Hitachi or possibly the Milwaukee, when it finally comes out. I guess the DuhWalt will work if you only do new frame construction, like you, I get into old hardwood framing timber here and even the Paslode has problems sometimes. I can see why you like that green monster. Would love to see a comparison between the Hitachi and the Milwaukee someday.
We had the exact same problem with the Dewalt. Even nailing LVL beams together we had to sink every nail with a hammer
Love the video, can you ask your plumber mate to do a van tour aswell
Yea I want to know what he thinks of the transit
Granted it should work with all batteries but it does perform better with the big flexvolt batts
what model is your hitachi? can you do a framer video explaining everything about them?
would you believe that someone reno my bathroom and stuck the tiles directly to the floor boards..no fiber board.. now after this years long dry spell and the house moved, I have a bathroom full of broken tiles....what is better for redoing the floor tiles or vinyl
all of a sudden your channel became my favorite!! love the content!
Good old get to work at 6am finish packing in at 7.30 in nz 😂🙏
From USA VA to my man in New ZealaN. see how I did that? looks like that framer is the best thing since the Paslodes. have you used any of the trim nailers? be nice to see a review on those.
1:16 “maybe it’s a long drop bro..” 😂😂😂😂
😂😂
Why unscrew the door hinge? Why not just pop the pins out with a nail set. That's what I do idk if its different in New Zealand
Most builders in Australia seem to use the 75mm Framing nails, how did they go through the native timber Scott? Great video as always cobba!
Isn't that because the framing is 75x35mm or something or rather.
Charge you for 90mm use 75mm?😂
A quality video like always! I love your tracksaw, it is awesome. And keep up with the little fact, they add a nice touch to your videos. Cheers from Holland
Great videos! Watch them every day. Always a motivation to work. Carpenter my self. Greetings from Norway :)
Love ur vidz man...
Big fan from Japan
hey Scott whats that saw tool that you cut the floor boards with? its awesome!
It's a multi tool
If you are firing into hardwood, ask your Paslode rep to try an IM90 out.
30%more power than any other gas framer.
Beast!!!
ashley mayer is an IM90 a gruntier version of the standard framer?
Sure is, designed for harder timber.
Go to the Paslode website, it’s on there.
Paslode is basically the only other gas nailer lol
Get your facts right champ.
Other gas framers by Makita, Senco, Powers to name a few.
Paslode is the most reliable and serviceable gun, that is why they have such a large customer base.
Calm down mate I realise there’s “other brands” it’s just no one buys them anyway
Oh man, I would never ask if someone is dead... I ask if they’re in jail
What model and type was that DeWalt framer? The DCN692 type 3 is meant to be the best one yet.
Was that a crazyframer shout-out at the end. Love the DeWalt tablesaw and chops but everything else is diy grade.
incorrect, the other tools are as good as the makita etc equivalent, and the second fix (16ga) dewalt nailer is the best battery gun out at the moment. that being said, i have the first fix nailer scott has used in this video and can attest that it's not up to par
Haha first thing that came to my mind was also crazyframer
Yeah that's his catch phrase, "time for a beer". He also shat on his dewalt framing nailer, and he wasn't using Australian hardwood.
I think the dewalt impact drill in terms of power is stronger than anything else on the market. My impact drives 6 inch SDS screws into PSL quick. Downside is the chuck spring in the impact breaks easy- already had to replace mine.
Pro tip- Don't buy Dewalt tapes at all. Buy Milwaukee or that random brand Komelon. My komelon has lasted me 6 months already of HEAVY use. The dewalts lasted me like... 2-4 weeks. Seriously.
Have to add the Dewalt flexvolt stuff is killer. Nothing DIY about them. That being said I wouldn't buy this gun. You have to pick your tools sometimes but most Dewalt stuff I've tried has been really good if not better than my other tools.
Dewalt Framer "sounds like a dying airplane" hahhaha got me laughing
I think I died after hearing paerau say that.
Great video, I like how you show us what you're working on.
Knobs and Knickers would probably be about to source a replacement hinge for that one.
Hey Scott, I’m a carpenter from aus and I noticed you hand nail your tile underlay, and it got me thinking... iv never seen you use a coil nailer? Do they get used in the trade in nz? If so Id love a review on the brand you use. I am currently running a paslode pneumatic coil nailer,
Cheers bro
we use coil nailer in nz, but not that often, normally for joist hanger nail and weather board nail. i guess scott doesn't have any space to put a compressor in his van.
ma lucas good point brother cheers anyway :)
Can you test out the Milwaukee finish nailer?
Mick word around the internet is they are no good
Logan Patterson yeah that’s what I have seen people say also, but every video review I have seen is people just bangin nails in some timber on a bench and giving a review... not using it in real life situations
Mick
Have the 16 gauge and it has shot at least 6000 nails with no problems! Had the 18 gauge and jammed way too much! Took it back. But yeah love the 16 gauge!
Was the speed switch set right? Could have been set slow for short nails? 😁
it was set on the double arrow I think?
@@ScottBrownCarpentry There is another power switch, hidden under the belt hook if you have it folded in, which either sets it to 75 or 90mm nails. I doubt this would be the issue as it fired them most of the way.
As others have said, they need running in, it says it in the manual (500 nails I think) before it will fire them all the way. Being a loan gun hopefully it would have done that. Nail count can be obtained by putting it into single shot mode on that switch you mentioned - single arrow, and holding the trigger for 10 seconds. Each flash of the light is 1000 nails.
They fire into LVL okay, maybe the old native timber is just too hard for them?
every plumber I've met uses Milwaukee... also every plumber I've ever met over charges... gotta pay for all those pricy tools...
they say the flexvolt batteries sort out the seating nails problems, but its a lot of cost just to make a tool work as it should
MrSteviegall it hasn’t consistently made a difference for me.
use a higher amp battery for dewalt? you only had the tiny one on there
We tried out the dewalt electric framers for 6 months stick framing and they are useless, every 10k nails you are ment to service it with a spring kit, within 1-2k nails on a new springs the nails will start staying proud even in lower grade pine. The drive pin wears out really quickly too and will start snapping nail heads and get them stuck in the shaft. We bought 3 of them and 2 out of 3 had that specific problem, all of them left nails proud.
Paerau may want to be careful about burning old painted timber. If any of the coats of paint are old enough they may contain lead. It was used up until about 1970 in Aust so NZ is probably similar.
He just wants to be careful. Grinder cutting underlay when scoring/snapping would work.
@@TheStrathmoreChannel I mean the stuff he literally took as firewood.
The Hikoki has proved the best all round over here for me in the UK 🤘😎🤘🇬🇧
Love the videos, any chance of making them a bit longer?
2:00 you went past our office mate!
Why do all tradies go to Placemakers when for average joes it’s the most expensive?
I was hoping for a review on those DeWalt cordless framing guns, thanks bro.
I had the dewalt framer and returned it for the hikoki. It was awful, never sunk nails into pine and the flywheel kept sticking and had to go into warranty repair
Awesome video dude, man I got to take a vacation and head out that way 💯, it’s beautiful over there.
What gun is the second gun he used ? The green ish one
Nick Gur hitachi
What is the name of that inflate thingy for under the door?
Win bag.
Great vids Scott! Keep up the good work. Could you plz make a vid on how you guys make up your hinge jigs (mdf or other) for the 18v makita router? Many thanks 🙏
Love from Scotland 🏴
Ive used my dewalt nailgun for 4 years. Havent had one problem with it so far. If im shooting into hardwood I usually use the air framer
Well that sounds like a problem then lol
You have to pull out a pneumatic tool when the battery powered one can't do the job.
That's a problem right there. A big problem.
I mainly work with pine anyways so the battery gun works fine for me. All my tools are dewalt anyways so yeah thought id keep the battery’s all the same
Plumbers and their Milwaukee. 😂 Anyway, that Hikoki shoots better than Paslode from that old timber nogging. That is insane. I still dislike the weight though, I usually like to keep my gun on the loop when framing (esp overhead works).
Also Dewalt guy should have admitted the lack luster power of DCN695. We (as in honest n no bs tradies) all know that but reassure you that Type 3 has more power. So he can send you a demo unit once it releases in NZ.
A short but a real test of the unit's max. power. Thanks, Scott. 👍
Milwaukee definitely has the mechanical side locked down.
haha, plumbers and electricians :) I wondered the same thing about the gun type, I didn't think it was the type 3. The type 2's Had issues. The sooner we get the types 3 here to try out the better :D
@@chrisdonnellybuilder any idea when they are releasing in nz? I'm sure we will see one on your gram once they do
@@calebpeeters8540 I'll have to find out
Hey Scott, we were given some DeWalt tools to test a few months back. We were not happy with any of them. The strap nailer for structural nails jammed so bad after the third nail that we couldn't even get it cleared, and the framing nailer is junk! We never have any luck with it inconsistently sinks nails, jams easily, long ramp up time before firing, and don't even think about putting it on the rapid mode! We sent all the tools back with significant issues with all of them. They definately need to step up their tools if they want to stay on a professional jobsite.
Curtis
What about ECKO Ultimate90, have you tried this?
Man u guys rock the multi tool all the time, went and got a Makita... but mine sucks... dunno if its the blades i get or what 🤷🏼♀️🤷🏼♀️. Cutting through a 2x4 i gave up and pulled out the sledgehammer.. trying to cut through some 4 inch nails i burn through a ‘metal’ blade after 3... ready to throw this tool in the trash, mate!
It's the blades mate for demo try sabersaw.. also a trick is if it starts vibrating in your hand its binding up not cutting so ease off n let it cut or support what you are cutting .. hope this helps cheers
I'd love to see a Kiwi electrician in a video.
those acer pencils any good?
With the hardy board why don't you put a sponge on the blade to deal wit the dust? It's the best solution I know
You need to change the battery to the flexvolt 9ah or 12ah otherwise the Dewalt struggles on the long nails, it's a pain to say the least
I have the dewalt 15G finish nailer and the 18G Brad nailer, both sound just like the dewalt framer but work awesome. I don't think I'd get the framing gun you showed in the video and didn't like.
Best episode yet bro!
hi scott im a vinyl installer down in the south island, did u find out the hard way vinyl can not go over cement board? never ever.
bezza1040 why?
theres no vinyl adhesive out there that will bond to cement board and you install the subfloor with panel pins or stapler, NOT clouts!
Actually the tile and slate underlay has specific nails you use to nail it down with. Stick to laying vinyl mate
Poor Karl, does the shitty job then get's rushed out the door.
fancy hammer, track saw but no coil gun?
Hey, is that the dewalt type 3 framer or the 2.
I had type 2 it was shocking. I now use the hikoki (hitachi ) in aus.
I just got sent the 3... keen to know if the one ur using was 2 or 3
Weird ive had mine for over 2 years. Works great and only in the most petrified of wood will it be proud, even dense psl's. Its jammed only like 5-10 times ever and its an ez clear. Ive never used the hitachi one though, maybe ill get that one if mine bites the dust (obviously out performs). I dont feel bad though i got the gun, 2 5ah batteries&charger for 220$ CAD off craigslist so well worth it
I've found that the dewalt framing nailer is picky about nails. It wont sink .120 paslode nails with ring shank. It will sink .131 grip-rite smooth shank, even into hardwoods like oak.
Yet another exciting video.
That’s the type 2 gun, we have the type 2 and 3 and the 3 is miles ahead, drives nails much better than the 2 and is quieter as well
Not had any issues with mine either. Need to run a few thou nails through it to beak it in initially but only falters with 90mm rims in gnarly timber.
Second fix gun Trump's everything else imo
Im kinda suprised that there is no insulation on the floor, but I live in Greenland, so guess its the reason.
what is the blowup baggy thingy? (technical term right there)
It's an airbag u pump up to lift things a bit. Homebase in UK sell them as does bunnings I imagine
Jump to 2.46 on this video, he explains where to get them 😊
ruclips.net/video/seIfFqDIdr8/видео.html
You can sometimes get them in Lidl cheap
@@dressjess #1 SBC fan right here
@@calebpeeters8540 you know it!
Just try smaller diameter of nails , and everything would be okay . I had same problem and that help me.
I had the Dewalt gun at work. It lasted about 15.000 nails then no more.
I bought the hikoki framer a month ago,its been good.I needed a angle bradder today,so I bought the dewalt 2 piece with the bradder and framer.I was thinking to sell the hikoki.because I dont need 2 framers.havent even tried the dewalt framer.but after watching this video.....
Anyone want to buy a brand new dewalt framer?never fired😁👍
You resharpen those multi tool blades with a triangle file while they are on the tool.