Saber really mentions 'fighting for her' Is this because his love language is acts of service? ....or just because that's all there was to the chemistry lMAOOOOO
Mickey and Minnie deserve to be S-tier because (1) they're the original cartoon couple, (2) for a long time they were voiced by ACTUAL married couple Wayne Allwine and Russi Taylor (May these legends rest in peace), and (3) Disney says that they aren't married on-screen, but are married in their private life (AWWW!).
I know that the Finn and FP break up was for Finn's character development but it was still such an upsetting episode. I wasn't even able to finish it the moment he talk about reenacting his stupid wet dream. I just knew it would go bad.
the prince on Cinderella and Snow Withe actually do have names! Even if never mentioned, Snow White's is names "Florian" and Cinderella's is named Henry
Yeah, I clicked on this video thinking they were gonna be on the list. I would love if he could do a review on the show, but sadly it's very underrated :(
22:55 last year I re wached a LOT of regular show, and Margaret and Mordecai were effectively not as bad as I remembered together, they actually have very good back and forth going on, and actively have good chemistry, their short time together was nice and MOST of their issues are more around the "getting to be a couple" and "how it was handled afterwards" cus Mordecai went NUTS (he kinda just sucked at romance in many ways) but them themselves, their relationship as it was, it wasnt really bad, it was even kinda nice and good, they end up in good terms, the vibe around it of course over all feels negative cus it was a kind of pain to get there and get out of there, but they themselves aren't bad together, it just didn't work out I feel like, if Margaret hadn't had to leave they probably would have stayed together for years Which I find SO interesting cus actively as a community we remember Mordecai and CJ as a much better couple, and they do have great chemistry but IN relationship, as they functioned together, both with Cjs anger issues and Mordecai being wishy washy BS I think they were very actively a worse couple, but we remember it differently and feel different about it cus of storytelling
Hi saber! I made a little comic of one of the moments in this video. I’m not sure where would be a good place to share it to so people in the community could see it.
Lady and the Tramp deserves A tier not B tier. They overcame social class and inner prejudices. Tramp gave up his past womanizing behaviors for Lady while Lady recognized her pride from the privileges given by having a family. Lady softens up in the pound with the other dogs and Tramp is willing to sacrifice himself for the baby because of what the baby means to Lady--both things they'd never have done as their previous versions before meeting each other. A-tier couple 💜
Finn's crush on PB was tough. She was aware of his feelings, but refused to acknowledge them until it hurt him. For her to want to have a say in his relationship with FP was a slap to the face. Finn and FP had a lot of boundaries in their relationship, many of which they couldn't overcome. It's tragic end was simply because Finn wanted more than she could really give him. We don't see much of Huntress Wizard, but I think she'd do well with Finn. She wants a relationship with him, while keeping a distance. This could become the kind of casual relationship that allows people to live their independent lives, but have a safe space to fall back to, and I think that's something that Finn desperately needs.
Heck, Rapunzel's original version is practically worse, she's basically r*ped because she doesn't understand what sex really is. And then has the guy's babies, eventually leaves and he magically has his sight restored (because the witch tricked him and his eyes were gouged out by thorn bushes)
My most hated tropes in media are "will-they-won't-they" and "love triangles". Just the endless tip-toeing and games, they need to stop. Then again, I think media could do with a lot more polycules.
I agree with the polycules! Every time i see a "love triangle" I just say "you know what would fix this? Sitting down and working out a healthy balanced poly dynamic!"
1:31:50 I'm not a super stand for Kiff and Amy nor anything but just in case anyone is curious, Amy doesn't ever really "cheat" on Kiff exactly, On the Zapp thing Kiff was literally dead and he took advantage of her mourning his loss, and on the bender thing, Kiff had broken up with her (although for very fair reasons she do was stepping on his boundaries and being kinda "flirty" w ""bad boys"") and after the break up she and Bender hook up for a little bit Not the best couple nor anything, they have some set of problems that I enjoy seeing while being IN the relationship instead of focusing in how to get there
To me, Hiccstrid will always be S-Tier. While the movies do a great job, "Race To The Edge", having more time than the movies, really made me fall in love with them as a couple beyond just "aw, look, they're so cute together" (honestly, RTTE is just a peak show in general).
I think sleeping beauty deserved a low C, it wasn’t D enough for me. Wade and Ember deserved better, they were really just perfect. I love them, adorable.
I only learned a few years ago Jessica Rabbit is argued to be asexual, an icon for the community. Kind of like Cofi from Chikin Nugget: a sheep in wolf's clothing, since Jessica seems bad, but as she says, "I'm just drawn that way,"
Wish someone had the whole clip that they were referencing with the hot dog eating contest. The upload I found showed most of it, but cut out Death vomiting, only showing afterwards where he's declared the loser
The DuckTales Reboot was the healthiest their relationship has been portrayed as so far. Meaning there is still a lotta media out there, including the ongoing european comics, where their relationship ranges from "meh" to "bad" to "toxic af", depending on the writer. Honestly, as someone who has been a Duckverse fan since before I could read, I think their placement on the list was rather generous.
Their biggest connection was that they actually have chemistry, unlike with Mako. Also, magic x science, bending x technology, blue x red, Avatar x non-bender. Also, korrasami is S tier.
I love Arnold and Helga so much yall have to understand why helga became a bully in the first place her home life is beyond shit with terrible parents who don’t care about her in the slightest and when Arnold complimented her she absolutely loved it because he was the one who showed her how to be loved and was nice to her! Unfortunately Harold and everyone else made fun of her and that’s why she became a bully she’s afraid of being rejected! The creator of the show said that Arnold and helga will get married and be just like Arnold’s grandparents! Saber I bet you forgot that Gertie was Phil’s school bully when they were in school! Arnold x helga= best couple ever!!!!!!!
The fact they don’t have Ben Tennyson and Julie Yamamoto from Ben 10, really says that they never seen ben 10 have there been any single comments talk about that they forgot or what?
My problem with Woody and Bo is how it developed. You don't see much of them in 1 or 2, but you can tell they care for each other. Then she's missing from 3, but you can tell Woody still cares. And then, TS4 happened... Bo is honestly kinda toxic towards Woody throughout the film, and yet they STILL get together in the end. I remember the movie came out the year before I got out of a toxic relationship, and then I saw a video on it AFTER getting out of it, and it really made me go "you know what, yeah, this WAS pretty terrible." I mean honestly, TS4 was terrible in general, but it really didn't do any favors for Woody and Bo. A or B for TS1-2, F tier for TS4.
It had sweet moments (the lost girl finding Gabby Gabby always gets me teary eyed, such a simple interaction, but very reflective of what Toy Story's message about children and their dynamic with toys and play), but yeah, it feels so random, though Bo Peep was basically nonexistent overall, more just a damsel in distress and then we get a rushed explanation about how she basically became a stray toy
My favorite couples are (IDK if adaptions is cheating) gomez and morticia Lumity hiccup and astrid Robin/Sttarfire Raven/Beast Boy Beastboy /Terra Nightwing / Batgirl Superman /Lois Homer/Marge Finn / Huntress Wizard Kim / Ron Star / Tom Marco Diaz / Kelly Sam / Luna Lincoln / Ronie Anne The boonchuys Aang / Katara Olivia & Yunan Donatello / April hunter / Willow Spider-Man / Mary Jane Helga / Arnold Velma /Hotdog Water Simon / Betty Pinkie Pie / Cheese Danny and Sam 'Phineas and Isabella Yumi and Ulrik Alita and Jeromy Marinate and Adrian alya and Nino Goliath and Alisa David Xanatose and Fox Aladin and Jasmine Frey and Lila Amy and Kiff Babs and Buster Bunny pre-reboot
49:55 Of course that catradora will also get negative response... When characters become enemies and aren't actually in relationship, how can their not-actual-relationship be toxic? Also putting catradora in IDK tier?! WTF? After admitting that you didn't even watch show? What?!
I mean, they literally said at the beginning that IDK-tier is for couples from shows they don't watch... Honestly, as a Catdora fan myself, I rather have that then see 'em in anything below A...
34:05 You didn't watch the rest of The Legend of Korra?! Horrendously underrated and misunderstood show btw. Book 1 (12 episodes) is basically a self-contained mini series that has a plot similar to The Dark Knight Rises. Books 2, 3, and 4 (40 episodes) made a 3-part story arc that is basically a REVERSE ATLA story arc. Also, korrasami is S tier. Fun fact: Love triangle 2.0 in Book 2 happened because creators wanted to get rid of makorra, which happened only because during production of Book 1, they weren't sure that they would get more seasons. Wow... some horrendous anti-TLOK, anti-Korra and anti-korrasami "arguments", mostly the same tiresome shit from over 9 years ago... Maybe I will respond to them later here...
This is a hot take, but I personally feel that Marceline and Bubblegum are overrated, I understand why people like them, but I just don’t like Bubblegum as a whole, and I feel like Marceline could do better, but that’s just my opinion, other than that and a few things other thing, like not seeing enough of Regular Show to know fulling of Rigby and Eileen’s relationship to know if they’re the best couple, I do agree with most of the choices here.
PB and MArceline are practically the only 2 that work together in terms of the world they exist in: both are functionally immortal. They're both messed up, but the show acknowledges that, they even have a fight in the Obsidian special as I recall.
Anyone else frustrated with the number of F/F couples in modern cartoons? Not because it's LGBT or anything - but because studios feel like it's the 'safer' way to go with same-sex couples. I can probably count the number of M/M relationships on one hand and it pisses me off! >:/
Love it when Saber and Rishi are together ❤
Agreed
Are they in a relationship?
@@provigilandchill tahts The question
They are an excellent pair, I like seeing them interact
@@hihi-kv8kv the are actuly Together
Saber really mentions 'fighting for her'
Is this because his love language is acts of service?
....or just because that's all there was to the chemistry lMAOOOOO
Take a shot every time one of them says "Fight for herr💅" 😭😭😭
Mickey and Minnie deserve to be S-tier because (1) they're the original cartoon couple, (2) for a long time they were voiced by ACTUAL married couple Wayne Allwine and Russi Taylor (May these legends rest in peace), and (3) Disney says that they aren't married on-screen, but are married in their private life (AWWW!).
I know that the Finn and FP break up was for Finn's character development but it was still such an upsetting episode. I wasn't even able to finish it the moment he talk about reenacting his stupid wet dream. I just knew it would go bad.
Rishi’s Snow White voice is astounding!
Oh yes it was.
Sad that the voice actress couldn't get much work after that role
S Tier: Fizzarolli & Asmodeus
The fact that Muscle Man and his gf are higher than Harley Quinn and Poison Ivy as well as Wall-E and EVA is a slap to the face.
Harley and Ivy are a terrible couple lmao
Harley and Ivy are an awful couple.
@@Jake_C75 what about Wall-E and Eva?
@@stevenmark4407 what about Wall-E and Eva?
You know who else is higher than Harley/Ivy and Wall-E/Eva? HIS MOM!
Linda and bob from bob's burgers ❤
the prince on Cinderella and Snow Withe actually do have names! Even if never mentioned, Snow White's is names "Florian" and Cinderella's is named Henry
And seemingly that's all from Disney France material
The true story of Pocahontas and John Smith just…makes it so disgusting for that couple
Especially when they had to age up Pocahontas and age down John, I believe
I’m surprised that Rayla and Callum from the Dragon Prince aren’t on this list.
Yeah, I clicked on this video thinking they were gonna be on the list. I would love if he could do a review on the show, but sadly it's very underrated :(
I was literally just thinking that too :(
40:32 I get the joke, but I think in that scenario Muscle Man would actually make his first ever “My Dad!” joke!
Please do a “Cartoon Moms” tier list next! Fourth request so far!
I think he will around Mother’s Day :)
Haven't Saberspark done that already before?
@@Saren-yc1rk He’s done a “Cartoon Dad” tier list, but not a “Cartoon Mom” tier list.
No Chili and Bandit 💔
Easy S
Honestly deserve their own tier above S.
They couldn't be included, as their tier is several above S, and make even the best ones pale in comparison.
Am never get over of them putting gonna Lori & Bobby & Sam & Luna in IDK
20:36 yes these two are one of my favorite cartoon couples
22:55 last year I re wached a LOT of regular show, and Margaret and Mordecai were effectively not as bad as I remembered together, they actually have very good back and forth going on, and actively have good chemistry, their short time together was nice and MOST of their issues are more around the "getting to be a couple" and "how it was handled afterwards" cus Mordecai went NUTS (he kinda just sucked at romance in many ways)
but them themselves, their relationship as it was, it wasnt really bad, it was even kinda nice and good, they end up in good terms, the vibe around it of course over all feels negative cus it was a kind of pain to get there and get out of there, but they themselves aren't bad together, it just didn't work out
I feel like, if Margaret hadn't had to leave they probably would have stayed together for years
Which I find SO interesting cus actively as a community we remember Mordecai and CJ as a much better couple, and they do have great chemistry but IN relationship, as they functioned together, both with Cjs anger issues and Mordecai being wishy washy BS I think they were very actively a worse couple, but we remember it differently and feel different about it cus of storytelling
Rishi has a really cute voice and laugh
Bluey's Bandit an Chilly are A-S AT LEAST
It is very interesting most of these couples on this list were cover by SARCASTIC CHORUS on his channel.
You got to finish The Owl House, after S1 it is REALLYY good I think you'd like it.
You guys should also do a Smash Bros Characters Tier List as well.
Hi saber! I made a little comic of one of the moments in this video. I’m not sure where would be a good place to share it to so people in the community could see it.
Lady and the Tramp deserves A tier not B tier. They overcame social class and inner prejudices. Tramp gave up his past womanizing behaviors for Lady while Lady recognized her pride from the privileges given by having a family. Lady softens up in the pound with the other dogs and Tramp is willing to sacrifice himself for the baby because of what the baby means to Lady--both things they'd never have done as their previous versions before meeting each other. A-tier couple 💜
Just here waiting for the Hazbin Hotel content farm stream
They forgot Steven and Connie.
EDIT: Oh nvm, they do mention them at the very end
And Penn Zero and Sashi
I'm so sad that Bandit and Chilli weren't on the list. They're S tier easily, one of my favorite couples ever.
Finn's crush on PB was tough. She was aware of his feelings, but refused to acknowledge them until it hurt him. For her to want to have a say in his relationship with FP was a slap to the face.
Finn and FP had a lot of boundaries in their relationship, many of which they couldn't overcome. It's tragic end was simply because Finn wanted more than she could really give him.
We don't see much of Huntress Wizard, but I think she'd do well with Finn. She wants a relationship with him, while keeping a distance. This could become the kind of casual relationship that allows people to live their independent lives, but have a safe space to fall back to, and I think that's something that Finn desperately needs.
And some speculation is that Farmworld Finn ended up with Huntress Wizard, though I don't know about if she's the mom of all his kids, hard to say
No matter what happens PB is almost always in the wrong, she’s an awful person
Why did i just realize that Disney made TWO movies where an eternally passed out girl gets kissed by a man.
I was brainwashed I swear.
They were retelling of medieval fairytales, consent wasn’t really a thing back then.
Heck, Rapunzel's original version is practically worse, she's basically r*ped because she doesn't understand what sex really is. And then has the guy's babies, eventually leaves and he magically has his sight restored (because the witch tricked him and his eyes were gouged out by thorn bushes)
Forget heed, you two are furfect for each other😂😂😂
I'm doing this list myself and just listening to you guys talk, and I'm mostly agreeing with you both but then I'm not lol
My most hated tropes in media are "will-they-won't-they" and "love triangles". Just the endless tip-toeing and games, they need to stop.
Then again, I think media could do with a lot more polycules.
I agree with the polycules! Every time i see a "love triangle" I just say "you know what would fix this? Sitting down and working out a healthy balanced poly dynamic!"
I like when they do something unexpected with love triangles like when two women end up together instead fighting over man.
34:07 my second favorite cartoon couple
1:31:50 I'm not a super stand for Kiff and Amy nor anything but just in case anyone is curious, Amy doesn't ever really "cheat" on Kiff exactly, On the Zapp thing Kiff was literally dead and he took advantage of her mourning his loss, and on the bender thing, Kiff had broken up with her (although for very fair reasons she do was stepping on his boundaries and being kinda "flirty" w ""bad boys"") and after the break up she and Bender hook up for a little bit
Not the best couple nor anything, they have some set of problems that I enjoy seeing while being IN the relationship instead of focusing in how to get there
To me, Hiccstrid will always be S-Tier.
While the movies do a great job, "Race To The Edge", having more time than the movies, really made me fall in love with them as a couple beyond just "aw, look, they're so cute together" (honestly, RTTE is just a peak show in general).
I think sleeping beauty deserved a low C, it wasn’t D enough for me.
Wade and Ember deserved better, they were really just perfect. I love them, adorable.
I only learned a few years ago Jessica Rabbit is argued to be asexual, an icon for the community. Kind of like Cofi from Chikin Nugget: a sheep in wolf's clothing, since Jessica seems bad, but as she says, "I'm just drawn that way,"
Saberspark and Rishi are Zutara fans confirmed!
Nice. My man Muscleman with Starla up top, WHERE THEY BELONG
Wish someone had the whole clip that they were referencing with the hot dog eating contest. The upload I found showed most of it, but cut out Death vomiting, only showing afterwards where he's declared the loser
You guys make a cute couple❤
50:22 My favorite couple
I say that Maria and monolo from the book of life is an A tier for me! I love them as a couple ❤
Putting daisy and Donald, in b is a shame especially after the new duck tails .
The DuckTales Reboot was the healthiest their relationship has been portrayed as so far.
Meaning there is still a lotta media out there, including the ongoing european comics, where their relationship ranges from "meh" to "bad" to "toxic af", depending on the writer.
Honestly, as someone who has been a Duckverse fan since before I could read, I think their placement on the list was rather generous.
Its a travesty that Steven and Connie aren't on this list
Love how pretty much everyone agrees Beast looked better as the beast XD even Belle XD
Why did no one mention the age difference between the prince and Snow White? Then suddenly samurai and aishi there’s something wrong? I’m so confused.
1:55:37 my fifth favorite
No Gary and Marshall Lee?
Melman and Gloria should be in S tier for Melman’s monologue in the sequel alone
Based and Brave for putting KorrAsami in C tier
Their biggest connection was that Mako fumbled both of them
Their biggest connection was that they actually have chemistry, unlike with Mako. Also, magic x science, bending x technology, blue x red, Avatar x non-bender.
Also, korrasami is S tier.
No Timmy/Tootie or Drakken/Shego? The list creator has some explaining to do!
Since when were Drakken and Shego an actual couple…? Surprised you didn’t say Kim and Ron since they did get together in the end.
@@galaxy_kitten95 like the latter half of the last season, but it was subtly hinted even before then.
1:36:30 my fourth favorite
I love Arnold and Helga so much yall have to understand why helga became a bully in the first place her home life is beyond shit with terrible parents who don’t care about her in the slightest and when Arnold complimented her she absolutely loved it because he was the one who showed her how to be loved and was nice to her! Unfortunately Harold and everyone else made fun of her and that’s why she became a bully she’s afraid of being rejected! The creator of the show said that Arnold and helga will get married and be just like Arnold’s grandparents! Saber I bet you forgot that Gertie was Phil’s school bully when they were in school! Arnold x helga= best couple ever!!!!!!!
Breaks my heart that Goliath and Elisa are in the idk category but understandable. They are S tier imo
Where is Todd and Mauve? Lol 😆
ain't no way you put megamind and Roxxanne in b they at least A
The fact they don’t have Ben Tennyson and Julie Yamamoto from Ben 10, really says that they never seen ben 10 have there been any single comments talk about that they forgot or what?
1:07:08 Do me eyes!
1:25:05 Yay Stendy
46:01 Oh god not these two
justice for grucy. grucy A tier.
Noooooo y’all forgot N and Uzi😭
Muscle Man and Starla are S tier
I don’t see Steve and Aja from 3below shame.
TODAAAAAAAAYYYYY
My problem with Woody and Bo is how it developed. You don't see much of them in 1 or 2, but you can tell they care for each other. Then she's missing from 3, but you can tell Woody still cares.
And then, TS4 happened... Bo is honestly kinda toxic towards Woody throughout the film, and yet they STILL get together in the end. I remember the movie came out the year before I got out of a toxic relationship, and then I saw a video on it AFTER getting out of it, and it really made me go "you know what, yeah, this WAS pretty terrible." I mean honestly, TS4 was terrible in general, but it really didn't do any favors for Woody and Bo.
A or B for TS1-2, F tier for TS4.
It had sweet moments (the lost girl finding Gabby Gabby always gets me teary eyed, such a simple interaction, but very reflective of what Toy Story's message about children and their dynamic with toys and play), but yeah, it feels so random, though Bo Peep was basically nonexistent overall, more just a damsel in distress and then we get a rushed explanation about how she basically became a stray toy
100th View?
Are they a couple or not?!
My favorite couples are (IDK if adaptions is cheating)
gomez and morticia
Lumity
hiccup and astrid
Robin/Sttarfire
Raven/Beast Boy
Beastboy /Terra
Nightwing / Batgirl
Superman /Lois
Homer/Marge
Finn / Huntress Wizard
Kim / Ron
Star / Tom
Marco Diaz / Kelly
Sam / Luna
Lincoln / Ronie Anne
The boonchuys
Aang / Katara
Olivia & Yunan
Donatello / April
hunter / Willow
Spider-Man / Mary Jane
Helga / Arnold
Velma /Hotdog Water
Simon / Betty
Pinkie Pie / Cheese
Danny and Sam
'Phineas and Isabella
Yumi and Ulrik
Alita and Jeromy
Marinate and Adrian
alya and Nino
Goliath and Alisa
David Xanatose and Fox
Aladin and Jasmine
Frey and Lila
Amy and Kiff
Babs and Buster Bunny pre-reboot
38:16 Greg and Rose are NOT a cute couple. They’re cute when you know NOTHING about them (especially her)
There's should've been FurrySpark.
49:55 Of course that catradora will also get negative response... When characters become enemies and aren't actually in relationship, how can their not-actual-relationship be toxic?
Also putting catradora in IDK tier?! WTF? After admitting that you didn't even watch show? What?!
I mean, they literally said at the beginning that IDK-tier is for couples from shows they don't watch...
Honestly, as a Catdora fan myself, I rather have that then see 'em in anything below A...
1:46:35
Here before someone timestamps this.
34:05 You didn't watch the rest of The Legend of Korra?!
Horrendously underrated and misunderstood show btw.
Book 1 (12 episodes) is basically a self-contained mini series that has a plot similar to The Dark Knight Rises.
Books 2, 3, and 4 (40 episodes) made a 3-part story arc that is basically a REVERSE ATLA story arc.
Also, korrasami is S tier.
Fun fact: Love triangle 2.0 in Book 2 happened because creators wanted to get rid of makorra, which happened only because during production of Book 1, they weren't sure that they would get more seasons.
Wow... some horrendous anti-TLOK, anti-Korra and anti-korrasami "arguments", mostly the same tiresome shit from over 9 years ago...
Maybe I will respond to them later here...
Lost me with pb and marcelin s tier couple
Sorry Pearl you lost to a human
This is a hot take, but I personally feel that Marceline and Bubblegum are overrated, I understand why people like them, but I just don’t like Bubblegum as a whole, and I feel like Marceline could do better, but that’s just my opinion, other than that and a few things other thing, like not seeing enough of Regular Show to know fulling of Rigby and Eileen’s relationship to know if they’re the best couple, I do agree with most of the choices here.
Yup. Bubblegum is just awful
Yeah Bubblegum is a legit warcriminal and tyrant
She's mostly benevelont, but she seems to have sociopathic tendencies in regards to her experiments
Nope.@@barrelsynapse
PB and MArceline are practically the only 2 that work together in terms of the world they exist in: both are functionally immortal. They're both messed up, but the show acknowledges that, they even have a fight in the Obsidian special as I recall.
First
Second?
You and rishi are S
QHAT WHATA WHAT YOU HAVE BECOME A FURRY?
Anyone else frustrated with the number of F/F couples in modern cartoons?
Not because it's LGBT or anything - but because studios feel like it's the 'safer' way to go with same-sex couples. I can probably count the number of M/M relationships on one hand and it pisses me off! >:/
same sex female couples* Because no way does a studio think that's safer still but get what you mean with dudes stuck as harmless boring gay dads
I agree that should be more mlm couples in media.
I don't have any issue with number of wlw couples.
There tends to be more queer women as couples in western animated media. While in live action media, there are more queer men as couples.
As someone who hates PB and thinks Marcy deserves much better, seeing them at S tier hurts my soul.
I think we need to chill with the PB hate. She recognized her mistakes and is trying to become a better person.
@@globurim when did she recognize her mistakes?
WTF?
Some real trash takes.
saber how dare your takes on fictional couples not be to this man’s liking