Actually it does work. I managed to replicate this effect on tree branches with a monocular and it has the background blur. I would assume that the telephoto lens you used didn't replicate the effect but i did manage. Mine was x10 zoom which may have played a important role
Aperture plays an important role along with zoom, typical zoom lenses for phones may or may not have a larger aperture. A larger aperture results in shallower depth of field
To clarify for everyone, since there’s confusing information here. Focal length does not change the depth of field (The major factor for the „bokeh effect“). Only aperture does. This video is actually proof without explaining it or maybe without realizing. Elements outside the depth of field (DoF) show up blurry. Therefore, if you’re physically closer to your subject, the background usually is far away and outside the DoF. This seems to have more bokeh, but everything equal it technically does not have more bokeh, it’s just more pronounced, since the background ist farther away. Something similar happens (or not, like in the video) with a larger focal length. Here you cut out a lot of objects in the same focal plane of your subject. Leaving most often only the far away background (as opposed to the plant in the video, right next to the subject). Therefor this seems to have a better bokeh, but actually the bokeh isn’t any different than with a smaller focal length. To summarize: getting closer or having a longer focal length are like „life hacks“ for easily getting a bokeh effect. But in general only a wide (EDIT: this used to say „narrow“ which is incorrect wording) aperture gives you a shallower DoP and therefore more/better Bokeh. Also to explain the video: since he only changes the focal length with the added lens (which also reduces image quality quite a bit), there cannot be a change in DoF. Therefore the plant in the same focal plane is as start as the subject Ist.
To be 100% correct focal length will help you *get closer* to your subject, so technically it helps with bokeh. I have no problem to shoot portraits 300mm f8/f10 on a fullframe camera.
@@marekmecir5822 Still not 100% correct thought. But I get that explaining it isn’t easy and my explanation can probably improved. Everything else being equal, only changing the focal length won’t change the DoF. If you use a longer FL and then try to frame the subject like you did with a wider FC you are moving the camera. And as I tried to explain in the comment above the distance between camera subject and background does of course have an influence. But with the same aperture, the same position of the camera and subject: changing the focal length won’t change the DoF.
This or more or less a good explanation. At the end though, you say "narrow aperture" gives you shallow DOF. Did you mean wider aperture? I usually take "narrow" to mean closed down (i.e. higher f stop).
@@ywmedia Yes, you are correct, thanks for mentioning that. :) The naming around aperture is confusing (at least to me). I actually tried to look it up but I obviously failed. „Narrow“ and „wide“ (aperture) seem to be related to the physical opening. For clarification: A small f-stop number will result in a more shallow depth of field, like 1.4, 2.0, 2.8, … This also means the aperture blades of the lens will have a larger (wide) opening. Where a larger f-stop number results in a larger depth of field, like 16, 22, 32, … And this means the aperture blades will have a rather small (narrow) opening.
The lens is used to give long zooms without much loss in quality, you'll have to play with it to get the best photo which you'll learn as you use it more and more so i suggest you to take it to a trip or something and understand it's potential:)
The blurred backgrouns or so called "bokeh" we are looking for is caused by very shallow depth of field, now to get such shallow DOF, you need two things, focal length and large enough sensor, the smartphone lens this man bought only provide the focal length but as we can see, the 22x zoom turns out to be not enough to compensate for the very small phone sensor, making the DOF not shallow enough and no bokeh. Edit: I forgot about aperture. It's also important, the large the aperture (i.e the smaller the f number) the shallower DOF you have, but in smartphones or that manual smartphone lens, you don't usually get to change aperture.
Actually it’s only dependent on the aperture (indirectly also the sensor size). And of course the distance between the subject and the background. The focal length doesn’t have any effect on bokeh.
@@UTubeLion My understanding is, focal length does create bokeh especially when the subject is not far from the camera even if the aperture number isn't small. For example shooting at high zoom range to a fairly close subject in a compact super zoom camera. Actually I don't really understand it too, but it is one of the practical way to get Bokeh if you wanted to.
@@harrybyaqussamprayuga1756 A long focal length is a fairly simple way to achieve the „bokeh effect“ but focal length alone doesn’t effect the bokeh at all. What it does though: it reduces the visible background. Therefore you usually see only the background right next to the subject. And that’s far away in most cases. If you take a photo at the same spot with a shorter focal length (everything else equal) and crop the photo like the one with the larger focal length, you’ll see the same bokeh. You standing on the same spot and the subject being still: aperture ist the only way to get more bokeh. Still: using a larger focal length looks most of the time like more bokeh :)
Yes, the quality of the photo is really bad, but I think the blur effect is not good, because the background was not too far from you, so as a result, at such a focal length, even with a small aperture, it is completely impossible to separate the person from the background using the blur effect. This effect only works with a very small aperture or with a sufficient distance of the person from the background
There is no background blur because the subject is so far away from the camera. You need to get progressively closer to the camera as the focal length gets longer for the background blur to get stronger. If you took that photo with the subject 1 meter in front of the camera instead of 10 meters, the long focal length (~500mm I guess, 22x optical zoom), it would have a much nicer blur in the background.
You need a bigger aperture to create a bokeh effect. If you use a bigger lens, for example a 300 mm, you will conpress the photo and the backgroud will be closer.
That blur from the zoom is called compression. Zooming also creates a major distortion on the subject. The aperture is what creates the depth of field.
Zooming in does not actually make the background more blurry the aperture does, zooming in we’ll actually increase it and make the background more sharp
Absolutely positively no substitute for a real camera with a large sensor and real glass. End of story. You can’t change the optical physics of a phone much more, only the software.
It’s actually due to a combo of zoom and F-stop. The more tight the aperture, the greater the depth of field, meaning the greater range of distance that things can be in focus. Open the aperture full on a manual camera, and you get a shallow DOF making everything that’s not within a specific distance blurry
In photography the thing that adds depth of field effects is the aperture. the narrower, the more DoF you get, and bigger, you get blurred backgrounds, the effect he was trying to get. True you do have you zoom in more for a better portrait, but it isn't really possible to get a blurred background without a big lens
there are multiple factors and its not just about a big lens.: Sensor (idk full frame) Aperture (example: F2) DOF (0.30m) object (0.30m away from you) now even with a 35mm lens, you get Bokeh behind your object ("depth of field effect")
Depth of field is not controlled by adjusting the zoom, but by adjusting the aperture, something that normal phone cameras cannot do. If you want a shallower depth of field, you need a wider lens, not a longer one. In fact, when you zoom in, the aperture decreases a little. Hope that I made it clearer
Great upside is that the newer iPhones actually have a depth of field feature now, and especially the 15 pro that can zoom 25x. It's definitely a tad bit better than this attachable lens, and that's honestly awesome!
Dof bokeh comes from roughly focal length/(f stop coefficient*focus distance). The math is a lot more complicated but genrrally the closer you are, the wider your aperture, and the longer your focal length, the more background separation you get. With a low quality telephoto extender yoy can expect to get extreme chromatic abberation and high distortion as well.
Where did you buy the lens? I bought one of Shen and it was horrible🤮 yours looks so much better and would love to buy it to try it out! Could you put a link? Thanks mate!
a bit misleading. the depth of field is controlled by the focal ratio (the relationship between focal length and aperture), and the sensor size. by increasing the focal length itself, you actually *reduce* the blur, or "bokeh" effect. to get that, you must increase your focal ratio by either increase the aperture (diameter of the primary optic) or reduce the focal length. also the photo looks bad because of chromatic aberration (and also other aberrations) which causes the colours to be misaligned on the sensor. this is typical of simple or cheap optics
The iPhone 13 has an aperture that goes down to 1.4, that’s probably better than the lens that you looked at you just don’t have an app that can control it.
Thats bc bokeh is caused by aperture, zooming doesn't do anything to your aperture. If I had to guess it seems to work when zooming bc the distance of the lens to the aperture makes it appear "smaller" by ratio without actually changing the aperture. To acheive the same amount of bokeh with the lens zoomed out the aperture would have to become bigger and it's not, so it's giving you a slight bokeh effect when zoomed out
Xiaomi 13 ultra has the best natural bokeh on its main lens, and has the best edge detection and natural looking zoom portrait shots compared to its rivals :)
To create a shallow DoF you have to open the aperture as much as possible (phones usually have a pro mode that allows this kind of control) and put some distance between the subject (you) and the background
depth of field effect you talking about is not the affect of more zoom of lens ,,,its aperture or how big or small the opening of the lens is thats why normal phone cant do the depth of field effect perfectly because its aperture is not big enough
it work for me and the depth of field is very slight it its manual focus you need to adjust rotate and rotate to get the exact focus and depth of field
The more you zoom in on cheaper lenses and cameras the clearer the image gets unless there's lots of space behind but you have to get your spacing right you need a faster lens or aperture to get that bokeh your after and camera and a 50mm f1.8 can do this for very cheap
You gotta get the Nokia 8.3 5g if you want a phone with depth of field its has 4 camera's on the back. Being a wide angle, normal camera, macro and a depth of field camera, thing makes amazing photos
You’re wrong about focal length just because you zoom in doesn’t mean you’ll get any bokeh or blurred background. In fact you are talking about aperture
Its almost like youre not supppsed to be able to jerry rig a $20 lens onto an iPhone and get a $3000 DSLR camera bokeh effect. Zooming in isnt even what causes the background blur, its the actual lens that engineered in a DSLR camera that combine to have a narrow field of focus. This video almost had the same energy as ok guys I wanna make my car electric so I hooked up a solar panel to my car battery, lets see how it goes! 😂😅
Any crappy entry level DSLR with a cheap second hand zoom lens would give you better photos than the newest iPhone any time. Censor size, kid. Censor size. :)
Actually it does work. I managed to replicate this effect on tree branches with a monocular and it has the background blur. I would assume that the telephoto lens you used didn't replicate the effect but i did manage. Mine was x10 zoom which may have played a important role
10 likes and no reply? Lemme just do that real quick
@@Bri-ish_Elmo lol, i didn't expect a single like
Aperture plays an important role along with zoom, typical zoom lenses for phones may or may not have a larger aperture. A larger aperture results in shallower depth of field
You could just get a Samsung the zoom is fcking crazy
@@SAMYwamy315 its not really optical zoom so although the zoom may be great, its not optical. Plus, it also costs alot.
Bro seemed a bit disappointed at the end 😅
Hmm I wonder why
No shit?
OH REALLY???!?
@@anonymous5072 yes no shit 🤪
@@Erm__ 😮
To clarify for everyone, since there’s confusing information here.
Focal length does not change the depth of field (The major factor for the „bokeh effect“). Only aperture does. This video is actually proof without explaining it or maybe without realizing.
Elements outside the depth of field (DoF) show up blurry. Therefore, if you’re physically closer to your subject, the background usually is far away and outside the DoF. This seems to have more bokeh, but everything equal it technically does not have more bokeh, it’s just more pronounced, since the background ist farther away.
Something similar happens (or not, like in the video) with a larger focal length. Here you cut out a lot of objects in the same focal plane of your subject. Leaving most often only the far away background (as opposed to the plant in the video, right next to the subject). Therefor this seems to have a better bokeh, but actually the bokeh isn’t any different than with a smaller focal length.
To summarize: getting closer or having a longer focal length are like „life hacks“ for easily getting a bokeh effect. But in general only a wide (EDIT: this used to say „narrow“ which is incorrect wording) aperture gives you a shallower DoP and therefore more/better Bokeh.
Also to explain the video: since he only changes the focal length with the added lens (which also reduces image quality quite a bit), there cannot be a change in DoF. Therefore the plant in the same focal plane is as start as the subject Ist.
To be 100% correct focal length will help you *get closer* to your subject, so technically it helps with bokeh. I have no problem to shoot portraits 300mm f8/f10 on a fullframe camera.
@@marekmecir5822 Still not 100% correct thought. But I get that explaining it isn’t easy and my explanation can probably improved.
Everything else being equal, only changing the focal length won’t change the DoF. If you use a longer FL and then try to frame the subject like you did with a wider FC you are moving the camera. And as I tried to explain in the comment above the distance between camera subject and background does of course have an influence.
But with the same aperture, the same position of the camera and subject: changing the focal length won’t change the DoF.
I think the ratio of aperture to focal length is the key.
This or more or less a good explanation. At the end though, you say "narrow aperture" gives you shallow DOF. Did you mean wider aperture? I usually take "narrow" to mean closed down (i.e. higher f stop).
@@ywmedia Yes, you are correct, thanks for mentioning that. :) The naming around aperture is confusing (at least to me). I actually tried to look it up but I obviously failed. „Narrow“ and „wide“ (aperture) seem to be related to the physical opening.
For clarification: A small f-stop number will result in a more shallow depth of field, like 1.4, 2.0, 2.8, …
This also means the aperture blades of the lens will have a larger (wide) opening.
Where a larger f-stop number results in a larger depth of field, like 16, 22, 32, …
And this means the aperture blades will have a rather small (narrow) opening.
The lens is used to give long zooms without much loss in quality, you'll have to play with it to get the best photo which you'll learn as you use it more and more so i suggest you to take it to a trip or something and understand it's potential:)
The only trip that lens will be on is to the drawer of stuff that will never be used again D:
@@yani1343 😂😂
newer iPhones have a nice, natural looking depth of field effect without even using portrait mode, you just have to focus it correctly.
The blurred backgrouns or so called "bokeh" we are looking for is caused by very shallow depth of field, now to get such shallow DOF, you need two things, focal length and large enough sensor, the smartphone lens this man bought only provide the focal length but as we can see, the 22x zoom turns out to be not enough to compensate for the very small phone sensor, making the DOF not shallow enough and no bokeh.
Edit: I forgot about aperture. It's also important, the large the aperture (i.e the smaller the f number) the shallower DOF you have, but in smartphones or that manual smartphone lens, you don't usually get to change aperture.
Actually it’s only dependent on the aperture (indirectly also the sensor size). And of course the distance between the subject and the background. The focal length doesn’t have any effect on bokeh.
@@UTubeLion My understanding is, focal length does create bokeh especially when the subject is not far from the camera even if the aperture number isn't small. For example shooting at high zoom range to a fairly close subject in a compact super zoom camera. Actually I don't really understand it too, but it is one of the practical way to get Bokeh if you wanted to.
@@harrybyaqussamprayuga1756 A long focal length is a fairly simple way to achieve the „bokeh effect“ but focal length alone doesn’t effect the bokeh at all. What it does though: it reduces the visible background. Therefore you usually see only the background right next to the subject. And that’s far away in most cases. If you take a photo at the same spot with a shorter focal length (everything else equal) and crop the photo like the one with the larger focal length, you’ll see the same bokeh.
You standing on the same spot and the subject being still: aperture ist the only way to get more bokeh. Still: using a larger focal length looks most of the time like more bokeh :)
My android let's me manually adjust the focus, and many other settings with sliders
@@coopersharp2921 and I can make phone calls with my iPhone
That final result kinda cool though😊
I want someone to try this lense on an s23ultra
Same
Some did before with S21 Ultra
Maybe the iphone 15 pro max
nah the s23 ultra has the best phone camera rn, the 15 max sucks its just a 14 s basically@@thefuriouscreator
same, especially since the s23 ultra camera is really good
Samsung:im 20 steps ahead
But 10 steps behind apple who needs 100x zoom
@@JELLESLTYou get 100x zoom on a Samsung, but you still get droid video quality 💀💀💀
100X digital zoom < 22X optical zoom.
But if you take a photo of a close object on your phone, in pro mode, you can set the desired focal length, and the effect will be similar.
The ending was AMAZINGLY funny LMFAO
Yes, the quality of the photo is really bad, but I think the blur effect is not good, because the background was not too far from you, so as a result, at such a focal length, even with a small aperture, it is completely impossible to separate the person from the background using the blur effect. This effect only works with a very small aperture or with a sufficient distance of the person from the background
There is no background blur because the subject is so far away from the camera. You need to get progressively closer to the camera as the focal length gets longer for the background blur to get stronger. If you took that photo with the subject 1 meter in front of the camera instead of 10 meters, the long focal length (~500mm I guess, 22x optical zoom), it would have a much nicer blur in the background.
Theres depth of field effect u just have to place it good. Even my shitty lens had depth field if you go for pricey one u will get surprising result.
You need a bigger aperture to create a bokeh effect. If you use a bigger lens, for example a 300 mm, you will conpress the photo and the backgroud will be closer.
His literally honest reaction on the end:
That blur from the zoom is called compression. Zooming also creates a major distortion on the subject. The aperture is what creates the depth of field.
Zooming in does not actually make the background more blurry the aperture does, zooming in we’ll actually increase it and make the background more sharp
Absolutely positively no substitute for a real camera with a large sensor and real glass. End of story. You can’t change the optical physics of a phone much more, only the software.
It’s actually due to a combo of zoom and F-stop. The more tight the aperture, the greater the depth of field, meaning the greater range of distance that things can be in focus. Open the aperture full on a manual camera, and you get a shallow DOF making everything that’s not within a specific distance blurry
Bro got the whole Barrett on there💀
😂
In photography the thing that adds depth of field effects is the aperture.
the narrower, the more DoF you get, and bigger, you get blurred backgrounds, the effect he was trying to get.
True you do have you zoom in more for a better portrait, but it isn't really possible to get a blurred background without a big lens
there are multiple factors and its not just about a big lens.:
Sensor (idk full frame)
Aperture (example: F2)
DOF (0.30m)
object (0.30m away from you)
now even with a 35mm lens, you get Bokeh behind your object ("depth of field effect")
by big lens I meant one that isn't on a phone@@tezkyflex7304
Bro took “photo shoot” too seriously💀
Depth of field is not controlled by adjusting the zoom, but by adjusting the aperture, something that normal phone cameras cannot do. If you want a shallower depth of field, you need a wider lens, not a longer one. In fact, when you zoom in, the aperture decreases a little.
Hope that I made it clearer
Great upside is that the newer iPhones actually have a depth of field feature now, and especially the 15 pro that can zoom 25x.
It's definitely a tad bit better than this attachable lens, and that's honestly awesome!
bro got the sniper scope from the gunsmith for a melee
Dof bokeh comes from roughly focal length/(f stop coefficient*focus distance). The math is a lot more complicated but genrrally the closer you are, the wider your aperture, and the longer your focal length, the more background separation you get. With a low quality telephoto extender yoy can expect to get extreme chromatic abberation and high distortion as well.
Where did you buy the lens? I bought one of Shen and it was horrible🤮 yours looks so much better and would love to buy it to try it out! Could you put a link? Thanks mate!
a bit misleading. the depth of field is controlled by the focal ratio (the relationship between focal length and aperture), and the sensor size. by increasing the focal length itself, you actually *reduce* the blur, or "bokeh" effect. to get that, you must increase your focal ratio by either increase the aperture (diameter of the primary optic) or reduce the focal length. also the photo looks bad because of chromatic aberration (and also other aberrations) which causes the colours to be misaligned on the sensor. this is typical of simple or cheap optics
Thank you for your honest review, I was about ordering one of this before watching your video 😂
Should buy a high quality telephoto ones. Ulanzi offers something like that
I have galaxy s22 ultra , it has a 10x optical camera , trust me , the depth on it is awesome...
The iPhone 13 has an aperture that goes down to 1.4, that’s probably better than the lens that you looked at you just don’t have an app that can control it.
Thats bc bokeh is caused by aperture, zooming doesn't do anything to your aperture. If I had to guess it seems to work when zooming bc the distance of the lens to the aperture makes it appear "smaller" by ratio without actually changing the aperture. To acheive the same amount of bokeh with the lens zoomed out the aperture would have to become bigger and it's not, so it's giving you a slight bokeh effect when zoomed out
That ain't a lens that's a whole ass sniper scope
That looks like a filter
I like it
Bro got the silence for his phone
Xiaomi 13 ultra has the best natural bokeh on its main lens, and has the best edge detection and natural looking zoom portrait shots compared to its rivals :)
Imagine that Nokia Lumia 1020 had this feature 10 years ago... With its fully optical 41 mp Zeiss camera.
Still looked great
When everyone asks too much of a phone camera. Try to use the correct camera for the intended results. 😊📷
To create a shallow DoF you have to open the aperture as much as possible (phones usually have a pro mode that allows this kind of control) and put some distance between the subject (you) and the background
Try photo the moon with it (i do this with mine and it looks cool
The photo the photo looks like if you looked through a telescope
snipin’s a good job mate!
He sounds like lock down life
No it won't have blur effect cause the phone lens/camera is like f36 in 35mm equivalent terms lol
depth of field effect you talking about is not the affect of more zoom of lens ,,,its aperture or how big or small the opening of the lens is thats why normal phone cant do the depth of field effect perfectly because its aperture is not big enough
You can actually make a world record
This channel is so underrated
it work for me and the depth of field is very slight it its manual focus you need to adjust rotate and rotate to get the exact focus and depth of field
The effect may require software and a bit more advanced lens, so technically that wont work as well as a camera
The more you zoom in on cheaper lenses and cameras the clearer the image gets unless there's lots of space behind but you have to get your spacing right you need a faster lens or aperture to get that bokeh your after and camera and a 50mm f1.8 can do this for very cheap
You gotta get the Nokia 8.3 5g if you want a phone with depth of field its has 4 camera's on the back. Being a wide angle, normal camera, macro and a depth of field camera, thing makes amazing photos
Bro... I just bought this yesterday, why didn't this video come out earlier? Lol
Was it expensive
Phone: optic equipped 😂
Get a Beastcage converter and try it with a camera lens
And then turn round again and find your phones magically disappeared!
i think it's because the model changed. from chair to you. if it were just focused on the chair the entire time, i think it might have worked out
Try having someone pose while you adjust the focus and zoom
"the more you zoom in the more blurry the background gets".
What? 🤣
You need to consider Apple's image processing here.
The 3x telephoto on my S22 is able to get nice bokeh without portrait mode. Maybe try using a phone with a larger sensor and a better zoom?
And thats why we have something called a camera.
hey, you should try it on the "how far can it read the smallest text you're printer can print" test. like this comment if you guys agree. 😉
You’re wrong about focal length just because you zoom in doesn’t mean you’ll get any bokeh or blurred background. In fact you are talking about aperture
I dare you to convince me that is not a gun silencer
Why don't you try the hauwei portrait!!!!❤
My redmi note 9s after seing me playing call of duty mobile for 2 straigth hours
that looks like a sniper
Iphones never had good depth of field. Try the S23 Ultra or any of the S23s, they're better in photos.
It is a silencer for blitz mode
Try sitting as close to the lens as the focus will allow.
Dawg forgot that dop is from aperature
Broh still did it correctly. 💯
Just go on professional mode on your phone and manualy set your aperture..
Samsung has a 10x with actual background blur 😂
Can you send a link to this product where you bought it?
“The more you zoom in the more blurry it gets” says no one ever 💀
You gotta get a lens with a low aperture
instead of people trying this, how about, just get a camera?
Apple's response: "stfu"
take picture close up not far away. yes you need shoot his ear on full frame and background blurs yes that how it suck lol
You should try apexel lens for phone, you'll be amazed 🔥
He really turned into the 🧍 emoji
You should use higher quality lenses, like the ones from moment
Maybe try it with a more usable phone like samsung, xiaomi, etc...
Its almost like youre not supppsed to be able to jerry rig a $20 lens onto an iPhone and get a $3000 DSLR camera bokeh effect. Zooming in isnt even what causes the background blur, its the actual lens that engineered in a DSLR camera that combine to have a narrow field of focus. This video almost had the same energy as ok guys I wanna make my car electric so I hooked up a solar panel to my car battery, lets see how it goes! 😂😅
I don’t see what’s wrong with that picture it looks exactly like the ones that I take!😂
With no offence to you I'm kinda baffled that you were hoping that this random lens that you attach to your iphone would have full autofocus.
The more you zoom in the more blurrier it gets😢 i think thats not how it works
Bro got that x8 from PUBG
Xiaomi : am i a joke for you bruh?
Wowwwwwww I need one
But don't have any camera 😂
Depth of field depends on iris
This is why I have now spent £30+ in the last 48 hours
Any crappy entry level DSLR with a cheap second hand zoom lens would give you better photos than the newest iPhone any time.
Censor size, kid. Censor size. :)
You shold try the Apexel 36x
You should try to get a shift point lens or whatever for your phone
Bro you’re completely wrong about how you think you can get a shallow depth of field, has nothing to do with focal length
Zoom does not create blurry background.