PSA Micro Dagger : Head to Head with issue’s

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  • Опубликовано: 29 окт 2024

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  • @BlackDiamondgunsandgear
    @BlackDiamondgunsandgear  6 месяцев назад +11

    You can get the best stuff at
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  • @Paul_Howe0216
    @Paul_Howe0216 6 месяцев назад +19

    Glock 43x and the 48 do not have a channel liner either, the same as the micro dagger. I also had some issues running Shield Arms mags in the Micro, no issues with factory Glock or factory PSA Micro mags.

    • @claytidwell
      @claytidwell 6 месяцев назад +6

      Ecactly. Thank you Paul. They are NOT reviewing the PSA Dagger here. They are reviewing aftermarkety SHIT.

    • @MinimumSpeedOperator
      @MinimumSpeedOperator 6 месяцев назад +4

      @@claytidwellexactly use PSA OEM if it fails with that then it fails if you start changing parts that’s on you.

  • @TNTactical
    @TNTactical 6 месяцев назад +39

    Man, thank you for having me on! It was a great time!

    • @BlackDiamondgunsandgear
      @BlackDiamondgunsandgear  6 месяцев назад

      Any time!

    • @BlackDiamondgunsandgear
      @BlackDiamondgunsandgear  6 месяцев назад

      Oh yeah🤘🏼🤘🏼

    • @andrewcramer7214
      @andrewcramer7214 6 месяцев назад +2

      Hey man, love your content as well. Just came to say i don't think your gun was having issues, i think your left palm was pressing the slide lock up under recoil. Happened to my bear mits all the time until i adjusted my grip and no more issues.

    • @TNTactical
      @TNTactical 6 месяцев назад

      Thanks man! I'll try my best 😂

    • @chrislee5634
      @chrislee5634 6 месяцев назад

      Where did you find that t shirt?

  • @vashmatrix5769
    @vashmatrix5769 6 месяцев назад +23

    These reviews are a public service. Thank you!

  • @thomashenley2980
    @thomashenley2980 6 месяцев назад +63

    Hmm, maybe we should stop modifying our guns with new triggers and learn to run them original?

    • @erieschl
      @erieschl 5 месяцев назад +5

      never

    • @oldschool3295
      @oldschool3295 5 месяцев назад +8

      Right!!!

    • @kevinroberts781
      @kevinroberts781 4 месяца назад +4

      Exactly

    • @vilo3454
      @vilo3454 4 месяца назад +5

      yeah , ya cant really complain that it wont work with yr modifications. not valid. it jst needs to work as built, as its warrantied

    • @AdventuresofAwesomeJoe
      @AdventuresofAwesomeJoe 4 месяца назад

      Agreed

  • @somethinglikesilver5369
    @somethinglikesilver5369 6 месяцев назад +16

    PSA had issues when their daggers (full/compact) came out and they've since corrected those issues and they're extremely reliable now. I would wait a year or 2 for the micros to get the same treatment.

    • @BlackDiamondgunsandgear
      @BlackDiamondgunsandgear  6 месяцев назад +1

      I agree

    • @USMC-1911
      @USMC-1911 2 дня назад

      I had problems with my micro dagger trigger going dead I played around with the spring in the mag release got it un the right spot never had another problem and mine shoots PSA mags no problem.

    • @USMC-1911
      @USMC-1911 2 дня назад

      I also moved the search over a little looking at a glock it didnt seem right .

  • @severzero
    @severzero 6 месяцев назад +15

    They literally told you what the issue was in your last video. I had the same issue with a canik once. People have also had the same issue with Walthers. The trigger bar is not interacting with the firing pin block when you pull the trigger.

    • @BlackDiamondgunsandgear
      @BlackDiamondgunsandgear  6 месяцев назад +10

      That was after I filmed this video man. Stuff isn’t done like week to week. Not all the time anyway. I still stand by me saying if they know enough that this issue is happening, where someone comments on the video from the company saying what the issue is. Then they shouldn’t be having that issue leaving the warehouse.

    • @severzero
      @severzero 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@BlackDiamondgunsandgear no clue when you film lol. I agree it shouldn’t happen but like I said multiple manufacturers have had this issue. It’s how they knew the problem right away. They need to redesign the trigger bar to be wider like every other manufacturer does but I’m assuming since they made the gun so small they are dealing with size constraints. I had a psa ar upper last year that shipped with a canted front sight that shot two feet right with my windage maxed out lol. They took care of the issue but It was still annoying and a waste of ammo.

    • @nosyarg1997
      @nosyarg1997 6 месяцев назад +4

      Watch the School of the American Rifle channel video to fix PSA micro dagger magazine issues.

    • @Darktacomic
      @Darktacomic 6 месяцев назад

      @@severzeroI know a lot of companies buy Glock trigger bars and use them so there’s shortages sometimes. I wonder when they changed the design if that affected it. I could be dead wrong just a theory I’ve never seen one in person

    • @brandonkerr4349
      @brandonkerr4349 6 месяцев назад

      @@severzeronever had a problem with any other

  • @hunter-cb6iv
    @hunter-cb6iv 5 месяцев назад +14

    Running this gun stock, with PSA mags, ZERO ISSUES. Gun is overall extremely solid, especially for the price. The fact that there are issues with feeding and slides locking back with OTHER BRAND magazines doesn’t bother me. I’ll stick with my PSA mags. Who wants to run all these other weird magazines anyways? Nothing beats stock

    • @BlackDiamondgunsandgear
      @BlackDiamondgunsandgear  5 месяцев назад +2

      I agree, but that’s what we do, we test stuff so people are informed

    • @vinh32y
      @vinh32y 2 месяца назад +1

      but if I'm buying a Glock clone, I want to be able to run glock components. If Glock mags aren't reliable then it kind of ruins a lot of the appeal imo.

  • @slimpickens0000
    @slimpickens0000 5 месяцев назад +4

    If you’re used to firing a bigger gun, your slide not locking back is usually an operator error.
    your firing hand thumb is most likely resting on the slide release. You may need to adjust your grip and move your firing hand thumb over or down over the support hand thumb
    Your thumb pressing against the slide will also create a double feed because you’re hanging up the slide.

  • @sladeoriginal
    @sladeoriginal 5 месяцев назад +9

    I dont accept break in periods. My hellcat has run 5k rounds without one failure with every kind of ammo you can think of. Only other micro compact I trust is SW Shield Plus.

    • @sebastianpoe3799
      @sebastianpoe3799 4 месяца назад +1

      Pretty much all things mechanical have a break in period. Really no way around it.

    • @sladeoriginal
      @sladeoriginal 4 месяца назад +1

      @@sebastianpoe3799 My friends and I never had a problem with dozens of glocks, SW, and springfield XD right out of the box. Break in period in this case means that the product is unreliable out of the box until a certain amount of initial use.

    • @sebastianpoe3799
      @sebastianpoe3799 2 месяца назад

      @@sladeoriginal again, everything mechanical has a break in period. The motor in my truck worked right off the lot too, but it still has a break in period. Sorry about your room temp iq and lack of mechanical knowledge.

  • @T4JM
    @T4JM 6 месяцев назад +3

    Matt at PSA is spot on with the trigger connector adjustment. QC junk #1. I couldn't wait to get the comp'ed slide for this lil guy.. and QC junk#2. Boy, did it show up rough. I contacted PSA customer service. They said it was from "test firing." The barrel looks like it was kicked down a flight of concrete stairs... It looks like it had at least 50 rounds through it judging by the powder on the comp. Man..... the gun feels great, it looks great too, and I agree with affordably arm the people but, at this point, I'm thinking it's not gonna make it to a daily. It's likely to just mosey on back to South Carolina.

    • @BlackDiamondgunsandgear
      @BlackDiamondgunsandgear  6 месяцев назад

      Lol

    • @neilpetersen5287
      @neilpetersen5287 4 месяца назад +2

      So I got the exact gun these guys are shooting and it came looking like a used gun, probably 3 to 400 rounds through it, I called customer service and they said it was from test firing. Whatever the gun has run flawlessly bone stock at least 1000 rounds no problems. I hate to love and love to hate them.

  • @trsdamocles
    @trsdamocles 6 месяцев назад +3

    I think it's the shield arms mag because I had a buddy that made a Glock 43 poly 80 build and the shield arms mag did the same thing and left one round in the mag. The follower did not go up far enough to put the cartridge into the chamber

  • @austinmc62
    @austinmc62 6 месяцев назад +5

    I was using a micro dagger lower with a Glock 43 upper and the PSA 15 round magazine. It would not lock back or feed reliably, I put in a Glock 17 OEM magazine spring and problem solved.

    • @austinmc62
      @austinmc62 6 месяцев назад +1

      You guys need to get the gun broke in OEM stock configuration and then change one thing at a time.

  • @scottedwards402
    @scottedwards402 6 месяцев назад +5

    Fyi, the Glock slimline guns do not have a channel liner from the factory.
    The trigger issue could possibly be a tuning issue between the connector and the triggerbar, but a mish mash of different parts can also cause iasues as well.

  • @donvela200
    @donvela200 23 дня назад +1

    Recently bought a PSA dagger compact and it’s the first gun I’ve bought that came with 10-15rd mags 🤯 ended up buying 1 OEM Glock mag about 200 rounds done the barrel so far and runs just fine.

  • @twise10
    @twise10 5 месяцев назад +13

    To be fair they do clearly say it's only compatible with their mags

    • @BlackDiamondgunsandgear
      @BlackDiamondgunsandgear  5 месяцев назад

      Yeah

    • @vinh32y
      @vinh32y 2 месяца назад

      But the point of a Glock clone is access to glock components. If a glock CLONE can't run Glock mags, then what's the point?

    • @chadfurtney3019
      @chadfurtney3019 19 дней назад

      Really? Where? Cause the only thing I see have looking at 6 different complete pistol listings, is this, "Any addition to your PSA firearm of aftermarket accessories (such as suppressors, triggers, muzzle devices, etc.) is considered a modification of your firearm from its original configuration, which may void your warranty" Nothing about mags anywhere, that I could find.

  • @michaelfabian2401
    @michaelfabian2401 6 месяцев назад +4

    Good seeing Mini Josh on the Channel, hope the Family is doing well and thriving buddy 🤘

  • @scottmorgan1016
    @scottmorgan1016 6 месяцев назад +3

    Thanks for showing. I have the compact dagger and just ran 300 rds today and its been perfect. Looks like more issues with the micro dagger

  • @juanvaldez5422
    @juanvaldez5422 6 месяцев назад +4

    I have had nothing but good luck with PSAs rifles and rifle parts . HOWEVER, I have built out 3 daggers (g19) using dagger frames, aftermarket trigs and barrels , ect . Of the 3 , one is running right now . The PSA dagger can NOT be regarded as a platform . Best I can tell the tolerances are to wonky to use with other Glock compatible parts without being a huge pain . Also , one of my daggers has a dead trigger too . If you buy just a dagger , a whole gun , you probably won’t have any trouble. If you buy dagger parts as a Glock compatible platform , you most assuredly will .

    • @BlackDiamondgunsandgear
      @BlackDiamondgunsandgear  6 месяцев назад

      I also have not had any problems out of their ARs

    • @dylankeepers2064
      @dylankeepers2064 6 месяцев назад

      Mine runs fine with my zen slide and also the psa slide

    • @arinchase1131
      @arinchase1131 6 месяцев назад

      I have a PSA Dagger slide on my G19. Haven't had any problems other then a couple jams which I'm chalking that up to the slide, barrel etc all being brand new still, and not broken in yet.

  • @2ahigh451
    @2ahigh451 6 месяцев назад +4

    I only run PSA mags in my micro dagger. I do however use non promags in my compact and full size daggers since PSA didn't mag any dedicated mags for those.

  • @jesseboutdoors
    @jesseboutdoors 6 месяцев назад +3

    Pretty much sums up why I won’t buy any gun when it first comes out. Great video guys 👊🇺🇸

  • @tamadrummer001
    @tamadrummer001 6 месяцев назад +3

    My sample size of 2 has zero issues with both psa and Glock mags. Personally it seems like you are the cause of the feeding issues. The shield arms mags have a bad name but ETS has an absolutely terrible name in the industry. Glock OEM and PSA OEM mags I have 10 of each and have run about 1500 rounds through them, no issues. The only issues I had came yesterday with S&B 115 ball, that ammo jammed both pistols every other round. I stripped a couple mags and gave a box to the guy next to me and it worked great for them. It was jam city for me with that ammo. Otherwise the c-1 and extreme carry cut in fde have been flawless

  • @jeremyjones6667
    @jeremyjones6667 6 месяцев назад +5

    Matt from psa, commented on the first video n bro just ignores the advice/ solution. Anyone else notice that?

    • @BlackDiamondgunsandgear
      @BlackDiamondgunsandgear  6 месяцев назад

      You don’t think it’s a possibility that I filmed these in succession and already had this edited ready to go out the week after?

    • @jeremyjones6667
      @jeremyjones6667 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@BlackDiamondgunsandgear so then did you try that solution out? If so did it fix the problem?

    • @BlackDiamondgunsandgear
      @BlackDiamondgunsandgear  6 месяцев назад

      @@jeremyjones6667 no I didn’t need to it just fixed itself which is what happened in this video. Still works until this day lol I have no idea why. That also could be concerning

    • @jeremyjones6667
      @jeremyjones6667 6 месяцев назад +1

      Maybe it straightened out during take down/reassembly

    • @BlackDiamondgunsandgear
      @BlackDiamondgunsandgear  6 месяцев назад

      @@jeremyjones6667 had to.

  • @cobia224...
    @cobia224... 6 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you for educating me on the micro dagger WOW

  • @UncleDanBand64
    @UncleDanBand64 6 месяцев назад +2

    Got 2 Daggers and a Rock57 love them. For what I am seeing most folks are having problems with the Micros. So, I will be not buying one for now. Good to see little Josh.

  • @benhil8861
    @benhil8861 3 месяца назад

    The first 43x I did was a PSA Micro frame and an off brand slide (psa didn't have slides in stock at the time) it had the trigger not wanting to release the striker issue. It never stopped working like yours but it got progressively worse until the trigger pull was obscene. I checked the trigger bar to striker engagement and it was like 130%. I adjusted the tab and corrected the geometry. I was surprised at the Micro trigger bar metal. It's not as hard as a glock oem trigger bar. That said, after that it functioned 100% the next trip to the range. Then I installed a p80 flat trigger shoe and a ghost connector, and tightened down the slide rails on the km tactical slide. I like it enough that I bought another micro frame with the two mags to do another pistol. Have only used psa mags. Have about 10 more hours of dry fire on it.

  • @StyxxxxRiver
    @StyxxxxRiver 2 месяца назад +1

    I'm not making this comment to say you DONT do this. I'm making it as a PSA
    When I got to my first duty station in the army, we had a Master Armorer who should have been a SGM 2 times over but for whatever reason chose to stay an SFC and stay in the armory, passion for gun, whatever. Any who my buddies and I would go to an off post range every weekend and he'd be there. He came over and asked if any of us had new weapon systems we've recently purchased. Some of us did, he showed us that whenever you buy a new gun, rifle or pistol, to take it apart. Wipe factory oil/lube, put in some car oil, hoppes no 9, whatever gun oil you like best. Rack the slide/charging handle around 200 times to simulate an average range day. break in the spring, let the slide shave any uneven polymer or metal that it would while you were shooting, with occasional dry fires. I've done that with every gun for the last 12 years Ive owned personal firearms and have never, over 12 different manufacturers and around 3 guns per brand. have ever had my weapon malfunction on me. the closest thing was a Canik TP9V2 that a girl I took to the range limp wristed, had a stove pipe. That procedure pre wears the springs, "mills" the slide to the polymer or metal frame for you and prevents sharp edges from causing misfires at the range. Try it out

  • @deezTX
    @deezTX 6 месяцев назад

    video out there on doing after market trigger jobs, when they are just slightly out of alignment, trigger reset are a common issue, like trigger bar, shoe, etc.. if you keep factory items in, no issues, so when you install after market items, you will have to make adjustment with various part(s) whole trigger assembly, inluding the housing, etc. oh, there is also a video out there about mags, if you look closely at all 3, PSA fits best, more snugg in the mag well, where the others have some play, cause some of the hang ups. and yes that upper may be out of spec too

  • @natew.-victoryorvalhalla4571
    @natew.-victoryorvalhalla4571 6 месяцев назад +1

    Does the PSA micro dagger have a steel/aluminum/ metal alloy magazine release or a polymer magazine release like the Glock 43x? Because if it's metal, it's going to tear up those polymer glock mags, which would cause a feed issue. If it's polymer, the shield arms mags are going to tear up the polymer catch on the magazine, which would again cause feed issues. You can only do metal to metal and polymer to polymer. With you mixing of mags, YOU might be the problem. Not the gun.

  • @chadfurtney3019
    @chadfurtney3019 19 дней назад +1

    Mirco Dagger frame, with Tactical Pontoon Peacemaker Daily 4.0lb Drop In Trigger System, Shield Arms steel mag catch, S15 magazines and OEM Glock 48 slide and barrel, with EPS Carry. Runs like a top. Streamlight TLR-7 X Sub coming soon.

  • @a10sim
    @a10sim 5 месяцев назад +2

    I’m calling PSA customer service tomorrow to request a new barrel. Feed ramp on my brand new MDC-1 has deep horizontal scratches. QC seems to be slipping. I’m hoping PSA will make it right.

  • @jeremykiddy3096
    @jeremykiddy3096 6 месяцев назад +1

    The sleeve is used to basically make it a smoother area for the striker to slide. As far as the glock mag issue, I would be interested to is where the mag catch is on each mag. The PSA mag be designed to sit a little lower. Or your slide is too tight against the lower.

  • @mikeisgettinupset
    @mikeisgettinupset 6 месяцев назад +3

    Not that it would make a difference with the cycling issues but when running the shield arms mags, have you guys also changed to a metal mag release? Because I’ve heard the shield arms metal mags will eat up the polymer mag releases. Maybe that can cause some seating issues

    • @BlackDiamondgunsandgear
      @BlackDiamondgunsandgear  6 месяцев назад +1

      I’ve never changed mine out even with the 43X and it’s never given me a problem although the other guy that’s in the video @TNTactical said he had some problems with his eating up the magazines

  • @kevinroberts781
    @kevinroberts781 4 месяца назад +1

    When you buy a new firearm that has never been fired, it often has problems. Pretty much every pistol I have purchased has some kind of problem the first 100-200 rounds. Once you break it in a clean it good you will be good to go. Patience.

  • @9MilNorm
    @9MilNorm 6 месяцев назад +2

    I got my Micro frame back from PSA, they said that a break in period would help. They claimed tolerance stacking from the dagger frame coupled with the G43 slide, also the slide being Cerakoted was the problem. Neither my G43, PF9ss nor my SCT G43x frames had these problems.

  • @stevep7346
    @stevep7346 6 месяцев назад +2

    I've got some experience working on/ modifying Glocks. The way your trigger was acting in the last video, it seems like your cruciform never disengaged from your striker sear surface. As you pull the trigger back, the cruciform should drop off the ledge in the trigger housing, thereby disengaging from the striker sear surface. Instead, you could pull back as far as you wanted, as hard as you wanted, and never drop the striker. I don't think that was debris in the striker channel, because I don't think your trigger bar cruciform ever let go of the striker. Get an armorer's backplate and you should be able to see if that's what's happening. It could also be out of spec geometry on the trigger hole, trigger bar, or even something jammed in the trigger housing not letting the cruciform drop, or the actual trigger shoe could be broken/ no longer engaging with the trigger bar (I could see a cracked trigger pin hole causing this issue intermittently). This is my guess on the dead trigger issue, and doesn't have to do with your mag issues.

  • @sea-2366
    @sea-2366 5 месяцев назад +1

    There you go. Don't use shield arms magazine. Use PSA micro dagger magazines or the glock 43x 10 round magazine.

  • @BryanCarty-uq4tk
    @BryanCarty-uq4tk 3 месяца назад

    I have a Glock 43X MOS with a PSA comp slide on it so far no issues with the Glock mags . I thought you weren’t supposed to use the Shield arms mags until you changed out the polymer mag catch to a metal one?

  • @secondlibertyfirearmstraining
    @secondlibertyfirearmstraining 6 месяцев назад +23

    Every gun company is chasing Glock's reliability and reputation...just buy a Glock. They work.

    • @BlackDiamondgunsandgear
      @BlackDiamondgunsandgear  6 месяцев назад +4

      Exactly

    • @straplyfedj
      @straplyfedj 6 месяцев назад +8

      This is kind of a dumb comment tho. Of course every gun company wants to have the most reliable product I mean thats a given. Thats like saying every car company is chasing having a reliable car 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @x3overland114
      @x3overland114 6 месяцев назад +1

      Why buy something that does the same shit different gen shit glock are far behind most. And there issue is the aftermarket mag not the gun

    • @robwilson3749
      @robwilson3749 6 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@straplyfedj It is? Then why do they keep releasing products that fail?

    • @straplyfedj
      @straplyfedj 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@robwilson3749 he said “every gun company is chasing glock’s reliabilty…..” Im asking what company wouldn’t want to chase reliability? It’s a really simple concept if u ask me

  • @milesrost6674
    @milesrost6674 6 месяцев назад +1

    PSA's AR's have better QC then Aero Precision.....
    My Experience = 11 PSA's (a few blems) 0 issues 9 Aero's 2 issues both needing complete returns for NEW serialized product and extra cost (transfer fees) + time.
    Perspective = A $450 Radical firearms complete firearm with ambidextrous safety has had less issues than %20 of the Aero's.....
    Conclusion = Quality Control is rather hit or miss with most companies. Ex. Daniel Defenses new H9 pistol Keyholeing.... unacceptable
    - Godspeed

  • @TONY19021965
    @TONY19021965 6 месяцев назад +2

    My uncle gave me his G19 that he had for 8 years. I carried it for almost 6 years, but my buddy wanted it pretty bad, so when I went S&W M&P, he got it. He carried it for another 3 or 4 years. I must have put at least 1000 rounds through it. My uncle probably put close to that though it, and my buddy another 1000 easy. No failures to feed, eject, fire, or cycle. With the exception of my uncle, perhaps limp-wristing a few shots because of him developing Parkinson's. That's why I got the G19. There's just something about a Glock. I just like the grip, thickness, and carry-ability of my M&P Shield. So I don't see the need to switch out. Great video, bro. Thanks & God speed.

  • @arnoldhelms5256
    @arnoldhelms5256 6 месяцев назад +2

    No issues with the one I have! All stock no upgrades.

  • @AKsuperman74
    @AKsuperman74 5 месяцев назад

    If you run a shield arms mag it doesn't seat and can fall out whether it's in 43x 48 or micro dagger. If you run the metal mags you need the metal mag release.
    Psa mags are meant for polymer.
    My only issue with psa mags is that the plastic melted through consistent use. I was loading them with a speed loader and mag dumping. After a 800 end day the mag was melting. Had to take a file to it to clear the plastic lump

  • @ichirow8a
    @ichirow8a 6 месяцев назад +2

    I bought some mag pull mags 15rd for my G26 and a couple of OEM G19 mags, the mag pulls just didn’t work. I run the OEM mags on the G26 and now I’m running them on my Dagger compact and ZERO issues after 150rds. I’m not interested in the Micro so I wouldn’t be able to give my thoughts but with the Dagger compact OEM Gmags are the way to go.

  • @bigshug3127
    @bigshug3127 6 месяцев назад +2

    I really like my standard dagger build. But like all my guns i waited over a year, waited for demand to slow down and let them work the kinks out. Its been 100% ordered a complete lower and completely built the upper, only splurged on my "hackathorn" sights and an all steel recoil rod. Im gunna do the same with the micro. Hopeful they run a non optic cut line. A bit of a boomer i guess 😅

    • @bigshug3127
      @bigshug3127 6 месяцев назад +1

      I have a few of the ar lowers, for the price they haven't exactly failed by any means but the fitment could definitely be better

    • @BlackDiamondgunsandgear
      @BlackDiamondgunsandgear  6 месяцев назад

      Lol

    • @BlackDiamondgunsandgear
      @BlackDiamondgunsandgear  6 месяцев назад

      It’s definitely better to wait

  • @PatRMG
    @PatRMG 6 месяцев назад +4

    Moar Little Josh!

  • @gunguy8348
    @gunguy8348 6 месяцев назад +1

    I like the price and made in USA. But it has to work with their mags. If not it’s a no go. I got my 43x when they came out the silver slide so far no problems but if I didn’t have the Glock the PSA would be tempting.

  • @oldschool3295
    @oldschool3295 5 месяцев назад

    Imagine that.... The FACTORY MAG WORKS, and AFTER MARKET mag, DON'T 🤷🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️. Sooo what should be the moral of this video?🤔

  • @shootemup256
    @shootemup256 6 месяцев назад +2

    Well seems like they run well on manufacture partsr my stock one goes bang reliably💯

  • @secondlibertyfirearmstraining
    @secondlibertyfirearmstraining 6 месяцев назад +8

    Just buy a Glock.

  • @dylankeepers2064
    @dylankeepers2064 6 месяцев назад +1

    I love my dagger tbh sure it’s not perfect but with a little adjustment and some parts swapping they can be reliable the main issue is there trigger system the cruciform on the trigger usually needs adjustment and after that there normally solid your problem was 100 Pepe cent the cruciform

    • @dylankeepers2064
      @dylankeepers2064 6 месяцев назад

      And yes I own Glock too lol

    • @BlackDiamondgunsandgear
      @BlackDiamondgunsandgear  6 месяцев назад +1

      That’s what Mat said from PSA. He commented on the first video that I did. He said that exact same thing. my point would be this if he knows that that’s the issue obviously that has happened to a lot of people. So why is this issue still leaving the factory?

  • @richardcanez6647
    @richardcanez6647 6 месяцев назад +1

    Awsome update. I just went out and shot my mirco dagger, and I'll just say it hates steel case ammo 😢, sorry magtech lol so ima end up getting an oem glock barrel for it. But I have got a shield mag for it, too, but no issues there. Other than that, I like the feel and the way it shoots, got an Align tactical thumb rest for it, and like it more.

  • @pollock56th
    @pollock56th 6 месяцев назад +5

    6000 rounds no failures with my glock 48 and shield arms.

    • @BlackDiamondgunsandgear
      @BlackDiamondgunsandgear  6 месяцев назад +1

      Exactly lol

    • @x3overland114
      @x3overland114 6 месяцев назад +1

      Thats bullshit

    • @pollock56th
      @pollock56th 6 месяцев назад

      @x3overland114 Let me ammend this response I actually had about 4 failures checked my notes, and it was on one magazine the 15 plus 5 extension, returned under warranty and SA replaced the magazine with a gen 3 .

  • @deo_zaraki7669
    @deo_zaraki7669 6 месяцев назад

    Bought one a few weeks back and have put 200+ rounds through it with no issues. I’ll update this if something happens

  • @BryantPorter-e4x
    @BryantPorter-e4x 5 месяцев назад

    My micro dagger had lots of problems. Dead trigger and the recoil spring was out of spec. It wouldn’t run a whole mag. I have now replaced almost every part I can with OEM Glock parts. Tactical Pontoon trigger. I run Gen 2 Shield Arms mags and it now runs perfect. I will not be buying any more. I could have almost bought two Glocks for the money I have in this PSA.

  • @ippolito71
    @ippolito71 6 месяцев назад +1

    Good stuff y’all. Subbed TN TAC also. Keep bringin it!

    • @BlackDiamondgunsandgear
      @BlackDiamondgunsandgear  6 месяцев назад

      Sweet!!!!

    • @ippolito71
      @ippolito71 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@BlackDiamondgunsandgear so after all this would you edc this tool? I’m struggling with this and the Canik mc9 as an edc. Currently using the dagger compact after using the TP9 elite SC as my edc and it’s too big for shorts weather. Deciding between shadow CR920, micro-dagger, or G43x. What’s your opinion?

    • @BlackDiamondgunsandgear
      @BlackDiamondgunsandgear  6 месяцев назад +1

      @@ippolito71 not as of now. IMO go with the originator G43x everything else is just a copy trying to be better

  • @dylankeepers2064
    @dylankeepers2064 6 месяцев назад +1

    My Glock 19x would stove pipe every 2-4 rounds ended up buying a new barrel and fixed my issue my dagger did the same as yours but the fix was free Glock was no help psa told me my issue right away and offered to send the part free

    • @BlackDiamondgunsandgear
      @BlackDiamondgunsandgear  6 месяцев назад

      They do offer help, but my point would be they shouldn’t have to. It should just work.

  • @cliffknoebel8528
    @cliffknoebel8528 6 месяцев назад

    There is no liner in the 43/48 glocks either, I have 2 micro daggers well over 1k rounds through each swapped out trigger group in my x1 all factory c1 and carry them , only issues I have had were using sct frames but after 50rds both frames were good. Your disconnector was the problem with the trigger resetting as psa commented just like I did, a very common problem with striker guns oem glocks incuded

  • @kraccusblack1022
    @kraccusblack1022 5 месяцев назад +1

    ive read that the comp micro dagger slides are the issue. from what i understand the slides heat up real fast transfering that heat to the rest of the gun. If thats the case i bet those internals are hating the heat something to think about. Mag issues are mag issues.. even the psa mags are not good.

  • @dylanholbrook6239
    @dylanholbrook6239 6 месяцев назад +2

    My micro daggers frame rails was not positioned correctly. It would not run a glock upper. I pulled measurements from a glock frame and confirmed the issue. The rails was low in relation to the locking block and trigger pack. I sent it back to psa with a detailed description of the issue, that i diagnosed with measurements. Instead of replacing thw frame, they sent it back with a micro dagger barrel. PSA doesn't care about tolerances. So if you buy one, its a roll of the dice. I did a lot of hand fitting, and mine is mint now (with all glock parts). Most people aren't capable of that, and buy a gun to function.

  • @kevinbrantley2872
    @kevinbrantley2872 6 месяцев назад +1

    I almost bought the micro dagger. Glad i went with the Glock 43X after seeing this video

  • @PoisonSpyder038
    @PoisonSpyder038 6 месяцев назад +1

    The 43 has no channel liner.. so that has nothing to do with the dead trigger anyways. You need to pull the trigger housing out of the frame and adjust the connector then problem solved

    • @BlackDiamondgunsandgear
      @BlackDiamondgunsandgear  6 месяцев назад +1

      If that’s the issue and they now that’s the issue why are they letting that issue leave their warehouse

  • @risingtides7984
    @risingtides7984 6 месяцев назад +1

    😂43 doesn't have a channel liner either. Forgot to mention they got past the patents b/c they shrunk down the gen 3 glock 19/17 geometry.

  • @joshandmanuela
    @joshandmanuela 6 месяцев назад +1

    I love PSA products but their pistols are not as reliable as a Glock. They have some slight QC issues and the consistency is not there yet. One issue with a dead trigger is the connector has to be bent out a bit to fix it. Johhny Glock has an excellent video on how to fix that.

  • @hondafreak8613
    @hondafreak8613 6 месяцев назад +1

    In my Micro D there was a metal burr in firing pin channel from the extractor cutout being drilled too deep and pushed the edge of burr into the channel. After bending sliver it popped off.

  • @backwoodscharlie8483
    @backwoodscharlie8483 2 месяца назад

    I stick with o e m parts for everything that I own that includes cars and motorcycles. I don't mix and match junk.

  • @Critical_libertarian
    @Critical_libertarian 6 месяцев назад +4

    So what youre sayin is never betray the Hi Point nation for PSA

  • @tylerrussell3388
    @tylerrussell3388 6 месяцев назад

    Well this makes me sad. I have a dagger full size sw4 slide threaded barrel with a Herrington comp and it’s been one of the most reliable guns. I’ve shot 3000 rounds through it to date and Ive only done 2 cleanings. I put every gun I have through the paces to determine what gets carried and what’s a range/practice piece. But I orders a micro frame one a whim giving it was on sale as a blem hoping it’s not a total bust.

  • @MkArms1997
    @MkArms1997 2 месяца назад

    I have the same micro c-1 and it’s so hard to rack the slide , I have kept the slide locked back for 24 hours and I have sat here and racked it so many times and it is still rough to rack like something is holding it back

  • @darrencaughey111
    @darrencaughey111 6 месяцев назад +2

    I have a micro dagger frame with a Glock 43 original slide and haven't had any issues.

    • @BlackDiamondgunsandgear
      @BlackDiamondgunsandgear  6 месяцев назад +1

      Nice

    • @VloneJIMMY
      @VloneJIMMY 5 месяцев назад

      Same with mine but I also did swap to an oem trigger and housing that came with my 48 slide, so far haven’t had any issues so far!

  • @junksmasher777
    @junksmasher777 6 месяцев назад +1

    I had issues with mine out of the box, These pistols from what I have learned have to be broken in before they work.. mine didn't wanna go into battery and had feeding issues, to fix the issue all I did was literally sit and rack the slide over and over and over for an hour.

  • @mcfivedad
    @mcfivedad 6 месяцев назад +2

    Wish PSA was more reliable …I just can’t trust their products yet.

    • @BlackDiamondgunsandgear
      @BlackDiamondgunsandgear  6 месяцев назад +1

      To be fair, I’ve never had a problem out of any of their AR and I have several, and I’ve never had a problem out of there original dagger

    • @mcfivedad
      @mcfivedad 6 месяцев назад

      @@BlackDiamondgunsandgear Fair enough. Haven’t put my Dagger through the paces yet, and the Rock has run reliably now for about 200 after a few bobbles initially. Still pro-PSA here.

  • @joe11894
    @joe11894 6 месяцев назад

    PSA recommends you don't use a metal mag release with the micro mags and shield recommends you do with s15 mags. PSA could definitely use some better QC but that might be causing your mag issues

  • @Brentleschauff
    @Brentleschauff 2 месяца назад

    You aren’t supposed to use the shield arms s15 mags unless you have their mag release because it’s also metal… the oem glock mags and PSA micro mags both have polymer where the mag catch hits the mag, so with your polymer mag catch it’s plastic on plastic and fine… with the s15 mags, the more you run those metal mags through it, the more those metal mags will chew away at the plastic mag catch and start causing problems, even after you start putting other mags in because your mag catch is starting to slightly change where it isn’t holding the magazines in quite the same as it did… which will start causing issues like you’re having…
    Either replace your mag catch and only use the metal s15 mags
    Or replace with new oem plastic mag catch and only use plastic Glock or PSA mags.
    Try that and let me know if you have issues again.

  • @stevendaily3668
    @stevendaily3668 5 месяцев назад

    My micro dagger will not chamber 124 gr. Federal, 124gr. Fiocci hollow point ammo. Rounds Stick in the chamber locking the slide out of battery.
    Anyone else have this problem?

  • @lorenzoperea6966
    @lorenzoperea6966 6 месяцев назад +1

    A factory Glock 43x is only $100 more than a micro dagger…. You can probably find them for only $50 more used. Save a little longer and get the Glock

  • @billycontinental1849
    @billycontinental1849 5 месяцев назад

    I wouldn't blame PSA for aftermarket parts not functioning properly. Aftermarket parts are a likely failure point with Glocks too. Clint Smith has some comments on that. Are you sure you're not pushing on the slide release when firing? A camera on the other side of the pistol would have been helpful. But it does prompt the question is it wise to save a little money on a budget pistol or just get a Glock or Walthter PDP-F.

  • @9MilNorm
    @9MilNorm 6 месяцев назад +1

    The PSA mags have a shorter follower. You can see it if you compare them to OEM mags.

  • @voteholyk
    @voteholyk 6 месяцев назад +1

    I just ran the comp slide. Glock lower, barrel, recoil assembly, with the SA mags. I will let you know how it does around 1k

  • @intergalacticchicano
    @intergalacticchicano 6 месяцев назад +1

    Had dead trigger every 5-7 rounds, then i saw some videos on it, pulled some of trigger spring help it, then i just did a little bit of polishing of some parts now i haven't had an issue, yet with both the micro fancy mag and the cheaper one. And it was tactical pantoon who's video i saw
    Also it seems to eject rounds pretty hard

  • @NobodyAwsum
    @NobodyAwsum 6 месяцев назад +1

    So wild that as a firesrms owner you font know hiw these things work and how to adjust them. Psa literally even copied the gen 3 design so its easier for people to understand and for parent reasons. .
    I put a different shoe (tactical pontoon) in mine, but ive put 1200 rounds through it flawlessly, and ive had both a regular slide and a c1 slide on both a p80 ssnframe amd a micro frame.
    Matt very clearly explained your issue. All you need to do was was give it just a hair of an outward flex to fix it.
    Please, learn the mechanics of the tool before you claim that its faulty or broken.
    They did everything they could to make it super user serviceable, and they are beyond helpful on reddit and facebook.

    • @BlackDiamondgunsandgear
      @BlackDiamondgunsandgear  6 месяцев назад

      Hahhahaha I take it you are a PSA fanboy…. If they know they are having the same issue with enough products to comment on every video out there that has this problem. Then this problem should not be leaving the facility.

  • @hemihayden
    @hemihayden 6 месяцев назад

    Have a sct frame with micro c-1 slide. But I also have a glock oe barrel and guide rod. Mine was shooting great than started to act up just a little more lube and was good to go. But being a cerakoted slide definitely needs to wear the paint etc. Off.

  • @burningcort
    @burningcort 3 месяца назад

    Difference in magazine followers. Even PSA has different followers depending on the magazines.

  • @RegularGunGuy
    @RegularGunGuy 4 месяца назад +1

    Hey guys, I'm just trying to help. Had a similar issue on the compact series. I just pushed the slide stop level spring down, and it solved the problem.

  • @charles17508
    @charles17508 2 месяца назад

    Jeezus just get some good s15 gen 3 if you get good ones you are good to go if they work they will run if you get a malfunction than mediately take out mark and send back keep the ones that run flawless .thats what i did .

  • @coreybikes
    @coreybikes 6 месяцев назад +1

    Where did little Josh get that Wu-tang jacket? Me want!

  • @chadbenner6316
    @chadbenner6316 5 месяцев назад +1

    Might check out the video SOTAR did on his channel with shield arms mags.

  • @ahrress9346
    @ahrress9346 3 месяца назад

    I've had Springfield, S&W, and Glock not lock back on an empty mag.

  • @brandonkerr4349
    @brandonkerr4349 6 месяцев назад +4

    The moral of the story is just spend a little extra for a Glock

  • @bearfootbowhunter3054
    @bearfootbowhunter3054 6 месяцев назад

    Is it a break in isue?

  • @rotadyma
    @rotadyma 6 месяцев назад +1

    Have yall thought about the possibility that maybe some guns just don't like certain ammo? In all my guns, I am aware of what runs better than others.

    • @BlackDiamondgunsandgear
      @BlackDiamondgunsandgear  6 месяцев назад

      Sure. This was just regular 115 gr brass. Nothing crazy, but that is always a possibility

    • @rotadyma
      @rotadyma 6 месяцев назад

      @@BlackDiamondgunsandgear I'm thinking more along the lines of manufacturer and whether they are reloads or remanufactured ammo. Just an example, I have an IWI Masada Slim and it does not like Winchester white box 9mm 115gr. It eats up every other brand no problem.

  • @charles17508
    @charles17508 2 месяца назад

    Im trying the gen 3 s15 mags we will see the gen 2s are not good .

  • @toddthompson3746
    @toddthompson3746 3 месяца назад +1

    Just send both Daggers to me for some additional testing. I’ll get back to you in a couple months 😂

  • @kevinroberts781
    @kevinroberts781 4 месяца назад +1

    So basically it runs fine stock. If you modify it it won't work? Don't modify it maybe?

    • @BlackDiamondgunsandgear
      @BlackDiamondgunsandgear  4 месяца назад

      I didn’t modify mine at all. @TNTactical the content creator I was collaborating with did modify his, and he hasn’t had a problem out of it so I don’t know where u got that from….🤷🏼‍♂️

  • @gary30427
    @gary30427 6 месяцев назад +1

    I want to see the new BCA Grizzly pistol go up against the PSA Dagger

  • @BlackDiamondgunsandgear
    @BlackDiamondgunsandgear  6 месяцев назад +1

    Oh yeah

  • @joekelly4
    @joekelly4 6 месяцев назад +1

    What camera are you using to film?

  • @dylankeepers2064
    @dylankeepers2064 6 месяцев назад +2

    Also the shield arms mags have been known to be shit psa mags are better by far

    • @BlackDiamondgunsandgear
      @BlackDiamondgunsandgear  6 месяцев назад

      I have actually not had any problems out of my S15 mags lol the only thing I’ve seen is that they don’t log back sometimes

  • @jackberkheimer
    @jackberkheimer Месяц назад

    So basically you are reporting problems with aftermarket triggers, and aftermarket magazines. So their is a problem with the compatibility of aftermarket triggers, and aftermarket magazines not the firearm its self... Idk why you would want to run a Shield Arms mag that's more expensive then the stock mags when stock mags have the4 same round count... Seem like a hit piece then a actual issue.

  • @dalecharles811
    @dalecharles811 5 месяцев назад +1

    Here’s a bright idea, use dagger mags w the dagger trigger