Whats Happening to PUNJABİ speakers ?
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- Опубликовано: 5 май 2024
- Linguists all over the world are baffled by the case of the Punjabi Language. One of the rare cases where a Majority Language is Dying intellectually.
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Haidar, S., Wali, T., Tahir, T., & Parveen, M. (2021). “I Am Not Punjabi, My Parents Are”: Degradation of the Language of Dominant Majority. Acta Linguistica Asiatica, 11(2), 101-127. doi.org/10.4312/ala.11.2.101-127
Khokhlova, Liudmila V. 2014. Majority language death. In Hugo C. Cardoso (ed). 2014. Language Endangerment and Preservation in South Asia. 19-45. Honolulu: University of Hawai'i Press 
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For the past couple of days I have been seeing comments under this video asking Why is my Video in English?
1. Because, the people who speak punjabi are not the issue. This message is more important for the Punjabi speakers who no longer speak punjabi.
2. And secondly I mentioned in the video, I myself have not been taught Punjabi as a child, but it's never too late to learn.
3. This channel only has videos in English and that's how it will remain.
4. Its important to remember that each language has its own place for me personally Urdu, English and Punjabi all form a key part of my identity. No language is bad. We need to learn to keep the politics out and keep the hate out and protect and enhance each part of our identity ❤
Love, Mesha.
As a Brazilian who's very interested in geography, demographics and linguistics, I say thank you for posting this in English.
Also.. your video deserves to reach the world
I think one of the really easy ways to apply the lessons of your video would be to make an effort to make a few videos in Urdu and Punjabi. It would help destigmatize the use of these languages and help fight the intellectual death of the language.
Pakistani Punjabi Muslims are the only religio-ethnic group in the history of the world who banned their mother tongue all the way from Punjab assembly/legislature to govt offices to schools. Just because they wanted to artificially construct a "Islamic identity" which led them to adopt Urdu ( yet another artificial language born in UP India ) as "superior civilised language" to the detriment of Punjabi.
Good some realisation of historical blunder is kicking in.
Even if they don't speak Punjabi, they can understand it well... Moreover, for non Punjabi speakers, subtitles shall be sufficient
Indian punjabis proudly speak punjabi
Indian sikhs to be specific, delhi punjabi hindus speak hindi
They are from Delhi and their majority of speakers are Hindi. So you have to speak Hindi. Even though you speak Punjabi to someone who you know the one knows Punjabi.
@@3142Khurasanthat’s not right. We have all religions in Punjab and we all speak Punjabi
People speak Punjabi even in Delhi
@@manpreet2966no punjabi Brahmin like hindi more, never noticed?
Saying as a Tamilian , if u lose ur language u will slowly lose ur land and identity .
Good nice thoughts for a Indian .
Hello?
First, regional jingoist and now linguistic supremacists. We'll very soon embark on the journey of continuation of our enslavement by foreigners every century.
Says a ricebag flat-earther, who lost his own culture and ancestral religion.
TAMILANS❤
🇧🇩 : First time?🙃
Good one 😂
Love from a Bengali from India
Bang on!
Here in Pakistan, the Pakistani nationalists say that they like Bangladesh and how Bangladeshis are fellow South Asian Muslims. But if you bring this up to them, they will say East Bengalis were racist and should've just accepted Urdu, they won't admit this was wrong. At most, they will say that Bangladesh had the right to separate because of geographic distance. They will blame Bengalis instead of themselves for their colonialist imperial mindset on language.
I'm from Sindh, where we're happy to speak our Sindhi language. Urdu isn't native to our region, so we don't feel the need to use it. When Urdu was forced upon us, it contributed to Bangladesh breaking away. I'm glad to see Punjabi people embracing their own language now.
Urdu should not be the national language of Pakistan.
No one is enforcing Urdu language on your people. Rather in Sindh, All people including muhajirs(native Urdu speakers) have compulsory Sindhi Subject.
Don't try to hide the facts Mr Lindhi
@@FactomediUrdu is forced on every Pakistani.
@@Factomedi and?? they're living on native Sindhi land, they HAVE to learn and speak Sindhi which they don't despite living here as refugees since 70 years and they were never forced to either, which is not the case in other countries where learning the local language is a must in order to survive
@@BeyondMagical same phenomena is applied to all other languages. If you wanna remove Urdu then first remove the rubbish Sindhi in Pakistan.
I would love to see you going straight to communist paths if you hardly willed.
ਭਾਰਤੀ ਪੰਜਾਬ ਦੇ ਲੋਕੀ ਪੰਜਾਬੀ ਬੋਲਣ ਤੇ ਪੰਜਾਬੀ ਹੋਣ ਤੇ ਮਾਣ ਮਹਿਸੂਸ ਕਰਦੇ ਨੇ, ਤੇ ਪੰਜਾਬੀ ਭਾਸ਼ਾ ਦੀ ਤਰੱਕੀ ਵਿੱਚ ਜਿੰਨਾ ਹੋ ਸਕੇ ਆਪਣਾ ਹਿੱਸਾ ਪਾਉਂਦੇ ਨੇ, ਤੇ ਪਾਉਂਦੇ ਰਹਿਣਗੇ , ਧੰਨਵਾਦ 😊
Pakistani government policy to promote Urdu only, due to religious reasons. Now they are wondering why punjabi is fading away.
@@rmrrao2675urdu is official language of Pakistan Punjab,not even one school teaches Punjabi there.
@@JohnPaul-yu9dy a whole great culture systematically being erased.
I wish it was like that in my country as well, but the pakistani government is trying to eliminate punjabi and promote urdu as a replacement, I just wish our punjabi got the same treatment here as it does in indian punjab
@@JohnPaul-yu9dyreligious radicalism has costed the native culture at Pakistani side of Punjab 😢
Growing up as a gen z in lahore I first hand witnessed the decline of punjabi. Punjabi was banned in schools and was quite literally considered as foul language. At home our parents used to discourage punjabi everywhere and made us form a perception of punjabi as a language just for the lower classes which lack basic ettiquetes. It's extremely ironical due to the fact both of my parents are native punjabis and themselves are extremely fluent in it.
Our preceding generation has failed our mother tounge due to a false sense of superiority associated with primarily English. I think it's upon us as a generation to reverse the damage done to punjabi and make sure that it is transmitted to the next generation better than it was presented and transmitted to us.
Btw a reminder that Punjabi is still banned in schools...
Punjabi is a fairly rough language that does miss the etiquette level in comparison to Hindi and Urdu. However I wouldn't want to see it disappear, as it is also a very fun language.
@aaryaputra108rough language? it's entirely subjective. Stop making perception from trashy Punjabi Jatt music.
@@ShwetabhSenpai
پنجابی ساڈی مادری زبان ھے
اَسی پنجابی نوں ختم نہیں ہون دے واں گے
ختم کرن والیاں دا نامو نشان مِٹا دے واں گے
اُردو بولن والیاں نوں مشکلات نھیں ہونی چاہیدی پنجابی بولن وِچ
ایح تاں اوہناں دا بس اِک بھانا ہی ہے
اُردو فُودُو لوگ بولدے نے سالے ھِجرے
پنجابی مرداں دی زبان ہے
اُردو بولن والے نہ مرد ہن
پنجابی پنجابیت زندہ آباد
Urdu get out of our way who you Urdu speakers think you are. Saale fudu
Kassi ne Urdu bolan waale
Punjabi has such a heavy Persian influence in its vocabulary. Punjabi language has words that entered from Arabic, Farsi, and Sanskrit.
We in Indian Punjab will keep it alive.
@@ohhell1234ok keep it alive. We Pakistani punjabis don't care u indian punjabis.I m Pakistani punjabi and I don't like punjabi even though I speak punjabi at home.
I've been thinking about making a video about this for a long time but it's not a topic that fits my channel. This is very good, thank you!
Thank you, I just saw your channel and love the work you're doing! Keep it up 💪
Masha Om
You can work on Ranjit Singh Empire. That would be an interesting topic.
@@TareekhiTales preaching about punjabi but doing the video in English wow you must be smart bravo
Please make video on Mughal Ottoman relationship first. Many indian subcontinent muslims and Turkish muslim think Mughals were nothing infront of Ottomans.
I'm Scottish/Irish from Canada & I have been learning Punjabi now for about 2 years. I love the Punjabi language and people, I speak to my buddy and his family in India all the time in Punjabi and many Pakistani friends online with some language exchanges. Its amazing how many languages you are surrounded by on that part of the world. Amazing.
Jai hind ate Pakistan zindabad!
Really interesting! How did your interest for Punjabi started? Bless u
@@man58652 Lmao he's Canadian, he probaby has dozens of Punjabi friends or acquaintances.
You mean Scots-Irish right? There’s a community called Ulster Scots, they’re known as “Scots/Scotch-Irish” as they were originally from Scotland and migrated to Ireland (Northern Ireland)
God bless you and a lot of respect for you for learning Punjabi
But which script are you learning Punjabi in? Hopefully gurumukhi
This Punjabi Muslim supported urdu imposition on us in 1952 . Proud to be Bengali Muslim
Where are you from?
Nope punjabi Muslims didn’t
Jinnah forced it upon everyone in Pakistan we didn’t decide
@@Doabannyou don't get the point , the problem was mainly bureaucrats and the elite society . And majority of them were punjabis , don't just blame one person Pakistan elected and got different leaders but it never changed .
We have given the sacrifice of 3 million of our people, and after the brutal genocide and atrocities, we got our right to speak our language. জয় বাংলা।
I still remember when there was a backlash against Beaconhouse banning Punjabi in their schools counting it under vulgar language. It was an informative video, keep up the amazing work.
Did they undo the ban
Wtf even is "vulgar" language wow
This is so relatable. My father's side is completely Punjabi and my mother's side is purely Urdu. I obviously grew up with my father's side, we all used to live in one big house. For my whole life I've heard my father conversing with his family in Punjabi, but whenever my parents spoke to each other (or us), they would do it in Urdu. My Uncle and Auntie's did the same thing with their kids. Even my Grandparents, who used to speak to us in Punjabi when we were young, eventually shifted to Urdu. Now none of my cousins (and myself) speaks any sort of Punjabi, even though we all are one.
And that's how we'd end up losing the language completely, unless we consciously make an effort to preserve it. Learn it and then teach our kids
@@TareekhiTales Right. Well best of luck to all of us.
Similar situation here. I grew up in a household where father spoke in Urdu to us though he is Punjabi, our mother spoke Punjabi with us even though we always responded in Urdu. Both parents spoke in Punjabi with each other. But our parents always made sure we go to our ancestral village and spend time there to meet the extended family so the language and culture was still very much in our lives. I was very close to some of my cousins and when they came to city for higher education, I was spending major part of my each day with them and other hostel folks most of whom had come from rural areas. I always loved my mother language but was just shy of speaking it regularly. But now I was immersed in the crowd where Punjabi was the lingua franca. Now, most of my siblings understand and speak Punjabi with various levels of proficiency and comfort whereas I who spoke it as primary language for few years during University days , am very comfortable with it. Now I out of 6 siblings am the only one that speak with my parents in Punjabi by default. Also, I am the only one among siblings that feels at home in our ancestral village. Some people just have a "Punjabi complex".
@@usmansabir1407 Well that's great that you kept your Punjabi heritage alive. Sadly for us, it's a lost cause. None of my siblings or cousins or anyone of my age speaks Punjabi. We understand it properly, but just don't speak it. And no my parents never tried to take us to our villages. All of us are born and raised in Lahore. I know my dadke comes from different villages nearby Lahore and Multan, but we never visited them (except once when there was a funeral of one of our family members, and they were all shocked to see us like we were some foreigners).
At least you are doing good. Well done!
Perfect example screwed up Pakistani prefers foreign language urdu which came from Muslims elites in india.
It's never too late to learn your own language. I met an Indian Punjabi born and raised in the US. He learned it when he was in his late 20s. His Punjabi was perfect. I wish this video was in Punjabi itself.
I'm kind of glad that it wasn't in Punjabi, so people who have abandoned Punjabi could understand it and realize their mistake. You could include English captions, but that might mess with the algorithm.
Got this video recommended on my page and being a history enthusiast I could not resist myself from seeing 3 more videos recommended from your channel.
Highly impressed. I hope your channel grows fast. Best of luck
Thank you 💕
@@TareekhiTales I think you should learn the art of flawless explanation from this guy. Please learn and improve!
@@AshutoshMishra_Umichshe good no need to tell her otherwise. 😮💨
I am from Pakistan and in our schools if we catched to talking in Punjabi than we fined of 200 Rupees. Even in primary classes.They force us to talk in English and Urdu. 😢
Kya konsi jaga pr konsy ilaky mai
Shame on them. Please don’t lose your language, we need to keep it alive, speak it wherever you can whenever you can. We cannot lose our identity
@@Dothisss I am from Arifwala.
This is what my friend from Lhenda punjab told me. I met him in dubai and he said that whenever he speaks urdu, he feels like he is out of breath. But whenever he speaks punjabi, he feels like he can easily express himself and talk very fast. I asked then why you spoke urdu back then. He said it was forced and his school and family used to force him to speak urdu 😔😕
WTF? This is a crime against humanity
What seems to be happening to Punjabi has already happened to a lot of regional languages in Europe: a language loses prestige and is relegated to domestic uses. Its former speakers start to learn and use a more prestigious and "useful" language, and, in due course, the society becomes bilingual. At some point the transmission chain between parents and children is broken and the less prestigious language becomes endangered
Starkly different from India. There is wider interest in local languages is booming and "new" languages are being discovered
This sadly how the things going to be with more globalisation.
@@RachaelWillI mean, before globalization we had empires and nationalist movements with a very clear short list of “useful” and “sofisticated” languages worth using. I think we would have lost even more languages than today if we had stayed away from globalization and stuck to a few competing powers.
Really could you tell me some of names
@@RachaelWill I think the process IS unstoppable. It's not only the strength of the state, it's the sheer weight of mass and social media. I am Spaniard, from Galicia in the northwest. Galician language resisted, more or less, centuries of discredit as the language of the lower classes (the bulk of the population). Since the arrival of TV it has rapidly declined, even though It is official alongside Spanish
proud to be Punjabi, we should promote and protect our punjabi language
kaahe ka proud saaly pore mulk ki bahin maa kardi hai Punjabies ne
Yep, it's Pakistan. But the number is misleading. A lot of us are forgetting our mother tongue.
Indians take immense pride in their language, cuisine and mother tongue unlike pa kistanis hence pa kistanis su ffer from immense inferi ority com plex.
Imposition of Urdu on Punjab is a British legacy. Pakistani state is simply a continuation of British Raj. This state patronage of urdu and neglect of Punjabi has taken Punjabi near to the mouth of extinction. This exactly how languages die. I am so much great full to you for realising the situation. Now This is the matter of now or never for us punjabis to stand up for the due right for the Punjabi language and save it from dying for future generations.
Same thing happens in India by promoting hindi.
@@adghat7819haha what is ptc Punjabi like channels What is heavy influence of Punjabi words in Hindi music industry according to your logic we can also say that this is imposition
@@adghat7819don't spread wrong info
I'm a Punjabi hindu(Delhi) and I learn Punjabi in my school
The British might have promoted Urdu but Persian was the official language of punjab before that time. No one was using Punjabi for literary purposes in the past.
Punjabis have even bastardized Urdu and it isn’t just loan words that have made its way into Urdu. A dying language doesn’t have shows and songs.
@@ShubhamKumar-vd9xy have you even read history. We got rights to make punjabi channels and teach punjabi in school because of the sacrifices that we made for our language. read history. Punjabi people and sikhs were killed by indian police just for saying "PUNJABI SUBA ZINDABAD" or "PUNJAB ZINDABAD". Search about kaka inderjit singh. He was 10 year and killed brutally by police for saying punjabi suba zindabad.
You've got a fun set of good videos. I really enjoyed this one and you earned yourself a subscriber.😀
You need to do so much more work on this ... Alot of work is needed to be done to protect Punjabi
Sindhis are proud of their Sindhi language and proudly speak it whether they're rich or poor, educated or uneducated. Sindhi is taught as a subject in schools and students are not discouraged. Punjabis should learn a thing or two from Sindhis when it comes to loving your mother tongue.
Are you sure? Even whitewashed Punjabis will know some Punjabi and refer to themselves as Punjabi but Sindhis hardly make themselves known.
@@based4560no that's not the case. You are just living under a rock.
@@based4560 while Punjabi know "some" Punjabi. Sindhis know "full" Sindhi and unlike you guys Sindhis are not ashamed of speaking their mother tongue and haven't banned it in schools.
I know many Sindhis, they don't speak Sindhi but they speak Hindi.
@@user-gz9js7fd2pIt was bhutto from sindh who lead to fall of dhaka so how can you imagine sindhi not being taught in Sindhs school. In Pakistans 76 years of history we know how Other leaders corrupted pakistan and blamed Punjab for everything. Ask your fellow sindhis about fall of dhaka they will say Punjab was responsible but was it really?...Bhutto was the main reason of 1971. Then after 1971 Punjabi got banned in schools. Sindhi childrens get taught Sindhi but we Punjabis are brainwashed since childhood about our mother tongue just because our Punjabi is more close to sanskrit and India(Hindu culture) than sindhi. We don't really need to learn anything from sindh because you guys just blame everything on Punjab(e.g development nahi ho rhi=Punjabi responsible...Sindh ko equal rights nhi mil rhe= Punjabi responsible....terror attack ho rhe= Punjab responsible).
Sindh also didn't experienced partition of sindh but ask Bengalis and Punjabis who literally saw their land getting divided and then Muhajirs imposed urdu on both bengal and Punjab.
I don't hate sindh or any part or culture of Pakistan but the thing which annoyes me is that everyone blames Punjab even though those people who blame punjab are involved in it(Biggest example 1971).
Punjab ay te Pakistan ay je punjab na pakistan de nal awnda te pakistan ne kiddo da bankrupt ho jana si, yah dooja kashmir howna si!.
I feel like you should set the example and start a series of videos just in Punjabi. I have always wanted to learn other languages of the country and listening to people like you in it(with some sort of subtitles in English or urdu to make it reach a larger audience) may remove that paindu stereotype. Especially when its about history etc. Maybe you could talk more about the individual history and folk tales of your province and perhaps other too
Thanks for highlighting this.
The diminishing lexicon issue is also happening to Urdu. More and more English words are being incorporated.
Promotion of Punjabi language is a good idea that it is speaking in South Asia, wonderful topic.
It's called the Indian subcontinent. Learn to embrace your roots. This is half the reason why Punjabi is dying in Pakistan, because it is despised for its roots in India and Hindus/Dharmics. It's seen as a language of Hindus while Urdu as the language of Muslims.
@@NostalgiaforInfinity it’s South Asia so cry about it. Panjabis are not Indian, never have been, are not, and never will be so stop claiming us. We love our language and our nation and want nothing to do with your country.
@@SYED_SHAH07 both of you need to stop fighting and need to realize that there is nothing like pakistani or indian. It is an artificial identity made by british. Both pakistani and Indian are fake identities. Punjabis is a real identity. It is our ethnicity and language. It is developed for thousands of years. It is a natural identity given to us by nature and it evolved for many years. Punjabis are punjabis not indian or pakistani.
@@user-uf6wc2zf6r India existed long before the British showed up. India was the name given to Bharat by the Greeks, and it included the entirety of the Indian subcontinent. It's Pakistan that was created in 1947 by partitioning India. There would be no Punjabi without India/Bharat's Sanskrit and Prakrit. Nor Punjabi culture without the Vedic/Dharmic culture.
@@SYED_SHAH07 LOL there was no "Pakistan" before 1947. The entirety of the Indian subcontinent was India/Bharat, even before the British showed up. Punjab was just another region of the Indian civilization. And that's exactly how the people of Punjab saw themselves. There is no "Punjabi ethnicity". There are several ethnic groups in Punjab. Punjabi is a language, not an ethnic group. The only reason you feel disdain for your roots is because of the influence of the foreign cult you were brainwashed into.
Small subtitling error: 1:23-1:24
"It is a very small percentage. So **22%**.
You said and meant 2%, please try to fix it if you can for people hard of hearing or deafness who rely on subtitles, thank you very much for including subtitles in the first place by the way, it really makes a youtube channel feel much more like well polished and premium when a channel does have them and it also includes that group better too! Thanks
Oh thank you for letting me know. I'll see if that can be fixed 💕
Amazing video. I love your work!
Very well researched and explained!
I am a #Punjabi from 🇵🇰 #Pakistan. Currently I am living in 🇨🇳 #China. I realized how important it is to 🗣️ speak , to learn, and immerse oneself in their mother tongue while growing up. ( Chinese model). There is an inferiority complex in us, the punjabis , which stops us speaking this beautiful #language with our kids and friends. Nothing can stop 🛑 the demise of PUNJABI language/culture in Pakistan 🇵🇰 since we are not teaching using this language as medium in schools. Well done #India 🇮🇳 Punjab folks, you preserved and transmitted PUNJABI so well.
P.S: Amazing eye opener video and it dragged me to this wonderful channel . Keep it up 🎉
Is it true that most Pakistani Punjabis view Punjabi as a disgusting language?
@@Oliver_Klozoff69 No. Far from it. Majority of the Pakistani Punjabi population is rural and Punjabi is the only language they use for communication. Its only the descendants of people who moved to urban settlements a generation or two ago have this kind of complex but they make a very small chunk of Punjab's population.
Hi! I’m Filipino American and from Northern California. My experience with Punjabi people is overwhelmingly positive. Many of my friends and colleagues are Punjabi! Hard working, smart and always well dressed.
Many are Business owners and very well educated. I have nothing but respect for Punjabi people.
Obviously, I’m coming from the perspective of an American , But I don’t think you should hide your Punjabi heritage be proud. You have every right to be! Love from California
Erm, randomass question right here: the person in charge of titling the vide9s is a Turkish speaker, right?
(The dotted upper case I)
True 💯. Loved your analysis and you 😻
Thanks raise voice for Punjabi Language
Alhamdulillah Proud Punjabi 👑
Great insights and research. Maybe you can make this as a series for all major languages in Indian subcontinent.
One thing i shall tell the energy you have given to make the video that will motivate punjabi people to again love their language. Keep it up
I love Punjabi , muslim and Hindu left Punjabi for Urdu & Hindi .
But we proud of Punjabi
English is universal.
Hindi will take the lead in the future
Urdu has become the language of Bhukmari and Karsha.
I don't know about Punjabi.
Oh is that so, that's why Indonesia and Malaysia has higher gdp per capita than India@@ShwetabhSenpai
@@ashamsaud4737 And? Do they speak Urdu? Those countries speak their mother tongues and follow their original native cultures. Unlike the Md'ans of the Indian subcontinent, they aren't ashamed of their language and roots, and don't try to pretend to be Arabs simply because they were indoctrinated into their ideology. How about you learn from them?
Punjab is 39% hindu and only 7% have stated hindi as mother tounge in 2011 & half of those who have mentioned hindi are migrant labours from up, bihar. So a humongus majority of punjabi hindus still considers punjabi as their mother tounge.... its only in delhi that half of punjabi hindus associate themselves with hindi more. In rest of india punjabi hindu's maa boli is punjabi only
@@ashamsaud4737 still can't change basic bhukmari and lachari of urdu speaking nation?
Nice video. A viewer from India.
Excellent video in terms of its content and its presentation.
Punjab and Punjabis sacrificed the most for the Pakistan and Islam in this region
You need to read history.
I am Pukhtun and we value our language soooo much but my punjabi friends literally can't speak their mother tongue which is very sad we should not forget where we come from
Punjabis can speak punjabi better than u can speak pushto.. btw why dont u go back to Afghanistan
Stop lying Pakistani Pashtuns are worse. Our language is facing danger of assimilation. Peshawar which is capital of pakhtunkhwa but Pashtuns there speak Pashto with Urdu words. There is no Pashto thought in school.
@@froliy what's the difference?
@@Pain53924 To answer your question, "Pathan" is an Urdu word. We never use it in our language. "Pathan" is the Urdu word for Pakhtun/Pashtun & "Afghan" is the Farsi/Persian word for Pashtun/Pakhtun but neither words are native to our language and come from outside. Hope this gives some clarity.
@user-zv8js6wt2y the term afghan has a very complicated history, it either might have its roots in the middle Persian word Abghan or the Gandharan Prakrit word Asvakan (both mean something related to horseman iirc) , but thanks for taking the time to elaborate it 👍 manana aw neki heli
One of the biggest challenge that I face with Punjabi is that being a Pakistani Punjabi native speaker I can only read and write it in shahmukhi script which is almost same as Urdu but not exactly the same. And shahmukhi typing option is not available on social media or many other digital platforms and I am forced to use Urdu typing settings to write Punjabi which means the predictive text will always be changing the spellings in most unpredictable ways for me. And so much of the text gets underlined red that I just keep doubting the accuracy of spellings of the words all the time… We need a shahmukhi typing suite across all digital platforms…
This is actually very important and something we need to help ourselves with 💕 these are the small things that will eventually make a huge difference
@@TareekhiTales l really don’t have any technical know how or background that I could help developing the typing script, but definitely employ it if afforded the opportunity.
So Punjabi in gurmukhi script isn't taught anywhere in Pak Punjab?
Very well spoken and informative ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
I'm punjabi from india 🇮🇳 and I'm proud of my language and ethnicity ❤
What is happening with Urdu and Punjabi in Pakistan is similar to what is happening with Hindi and many north indian languages in India (although not with Punjabi and not to the same extent).
For example I've seen that a lot of the younger generations in Bihar, Rajasthan, Gujarat or Himachal Pradesh either don't speak maithili, bhojpuri, mewari, gujarati or pahari that well or they only speak it at home, and with friends and people their age they usually speak hindi. In the case of Bihar I've noticed they seem embarassed to speak bhojpuri or maithili because of the stereotypes of Biharis being uneducated and poor.
The only states in North India that I've seen strongly maintain their language with pride is Punjab and West Bengal.
And I did blame Hindi at the start but obviously english also has something to do with it, I mean knowing three languages REALLY well is hard you sometimes have to sacrifice your skills in one of them.
Same here in the northeast, most youngsters either speak hindi or english as their first language....no one gives a damn bout their native tongue 🥲😔
Really really glad to see a rise of intellectual debates on social media platforms from pakistan.
Great video. I wonder what the impact of the different dialects here is. In Islamabad and Rawalpindi for example they speak Potohari which is considered by some to be a separate language (by others just a dialect), so what form of Punjabi would you teach in schools? BTW Is there an official standardised form of Punjabi in the Shahmukhi script? All teaching materials I have found so far have been in Gurmukhi.
well there is also formal way of writing punjabi. I think it doesn't really affect the dialect which comes to use mostly while speaking. All of this was said about gurmukhi. I don't know about shahmukhi much. Although I believe every region should have different learning and writing process according to their dialect.
Totally agree plus all the Seriekis, and people from all over Pakistan in Lahore because it was developed the most by governments on national money ( Islamabad was developed more on Bangali money).
Shahmukhi which is basically the same as Urdu Nastaliq and is much worse at reading (and writing) in Punjabi than Urdu Nastaliq is for Urdu, and Muslims didn't write in Gurmukhi which was especially developed by the Sikhs, originally for scripture (most Hindus and many Sikhs also used Shahmukhi before independence). Rest of the languages of (west) Pakistan, including Serieki and Potohari had already lost Indic scripts by the time of Independence, some a thousand years ago. So exactly how to revive a Language in Punjab under all these circumstances.
Like fake Hebrew by Zionists in occupied Palestine? What a brilliant example by her.
what is bro yapping 🤔
3:16 please correct it Punjabi language does not declined but in 1981 all the dialects of Punjabi were included while in 2017 Saraiki and Hindko got separated so the drop is obvious
Wow thank u for this useful information 🙏🙏
That’s strange why were they seperated
@@introtwerp Because they were declared as separate languages.
@@introtwerp because they wanted to decrease the extent of punjabi language. It was done the same in India. Dogri and kangri were considered dialects of punjabi by everyone even including british but indian government made them separate language in law.
One of the main reasons that Punjabi is being discouraged is as you described it; the educated Punjabis think of it as being associated with the blue collar workers, the worker class. The rich ones of the society do not want to be reminded of their past and focus more on Urdu, and now more recently English. Urdu when spoken is definitely more respectful and a very romantic language, and if you're really good at Urdu it really feels more eloquent than even English.
While Urdu is beautiful, Punjabi is just as is and if more educated people and those in the bureaucracy converse in it daily, this stigma would definitely die out.
Another thing that I'd point out is that we Punjabis need to take inspiration from Pushto and Sindhi speakers, they don't care what the rest of the world dwells upon their language and they speak them in everyday life and even encourage it. Hope we learn something from them.
I as an Indonesian who live in East Java, and speak the national language of Indonesian and the regional Javanese language are also concerned about the Punjabi language which from decade to decade is decreasing, because as me who live in East Java also feel the same way for some people who discriminate against regional languages, I am one of the generation of gen z and the gen z here also sometimes think that the regional language is an unauthoritative language and is considered less able to adapt to the modern era, sometimes there are those who say that the regional language is a backwards language and so on , Even though there are many out there who fight for their regional languages so desperately that some people go to prison, such as Basques, Corsicans, Bretons, etc., those of us who come from countries that don't prohibit regional languages just leave them at will. , so that may ALLAH save Punjabi , Javanese & other Regional Languages 🤲🏻🇮🇩🇵🇰
Thank you indonesian brother, love from Punjab Pakistan❤🇵🇰🇮🇩. InshaAllah Punjabi and javanese will get their respect back again
great analysis
You covered the topic really comprehensively. Thanks for the valuable presentation. Very insightful. I could relate to many of these language dynamics that happens in Indian states too.
Keep it up my young sister.
what is the script of Panjabi & Urdu = same ? different ? overlaping ?
Punjabi script of West Punjab is called Shahmukhi and East Punjab is Gurmukhi.
Shahmukhi is similar to Urdu
Otherwise original Punjab was speaking Farsi
As a French born British citizen who converted to Sikhism from Catholicism , and married to a practicing Sikh woman . We are living in Chandigarh but practicing organic farming in Punjab,since 1998 , I believe we must speak and protect the Punjabi language which is the soul of Punjab, culturally and spiritually. I am annoyed when punjabis insist in taking to me in English or Hindi.
Thank you for the video
India has been suffering from Punjabi dominance, particularly in entertainment/show biz industries. Literally every Indian is abandoning their native culture and language to speak in Hindi and jive to Punjabi tunes. Punjabis are one of the most if not The Most privileged communities in India. This needs to be stopped in the tracks if multi-regional and multi-ethnic India wants to preserve their languages and heritage. Bollywood and their imposition of Punjabis culture, song, dance and dress on rest of India MUST be exposed and stopped. I hope people open their eyes and realize the blatant attemp to resort their native cultures and languages to 3rd class.
A lot of Indians even do Bhangra to display their happiness especially during cricket matches.
Only in North India not in southern part of India
@@amanrautx Sout Indians also do that a lot. I have seen RCB and CSK fans doing balle balle.
@@extreme4642 rcb and CSK are literally 2 biggest franchise in India they have fans all over the country not just in Chennai and Bangalore
@@amanrautx But most of the fans who come to watch their matches are south Indians as bengalore and chennai are their home grounds. You are just being delusional. This balle balle celebration is done by almost every Indian regardless of ethnicity.
One thing that could help is by creating high quality comprehensive input classes. Something similar to what the DW has for German or French in Action. That way both foreigners and locals can use the program easily. Also having more foreigners learn Punjabi might improve how other people view the language.
Greek here. I found your video very interesting. I think this sidelined languages question exists all around the world, in my country no less. It was a product of modernity where some languages where deemed official and prestigious by the ecquivelant states and all others where left to oblivion because they where supposedly "backward". We Greeks spoke many different languages, some of them linguistically Greek (not one single language as it is concieved today, but a number of related languages) and some others not (Romance, Slavic, Albanian, Turkish etc). Part of my ancestry comes from villages where people spoke a local Romance language called Aromanian (derived from Latin, but heavily influenced by Greek and other local languages). Here, in the city, I have only managed to learn a few words an phrases in that language. There are some organisations however to try to keep the language alive
Yeah sadly alot of languages are suffering from the same phenomenon. Hopefully we can preserve as much as possible to be able to enjoy the knowledge and literature that is found within them 💕
Punjabi Language,is Spoken in many regions of the world 🌎.
☪️ *Punjabi 🇵🇰 🤝 🇮🇳 ਪੰਜਾਬੀ 🪯*
Definitely agree with this video and really appreciate all the information. But if I may point out, the drop in the share of Punjabi speakers doesn't mean that Punjabi speakers/ Punjabis have declined - considering that Pakistan's population has increased significantly since 1981. Pashto, Seraiki & Sindhi saw significant increase in the share of speakers over these three decades referenced. Perhaps, more Seraiki people began identifying as Seraiki speakers rather than Punjabis, considering Seraiki was previously lumped with Punjabi and the Seraiki identity has increasingly diverged from Punjabi over the decades. Maybe the spike in Pashtuns was caused by Afghan immigration and naturalisation into Pakistan after the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. Perhaps the census reached more remote or previously undocumented communities in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa & Sindh. Or maybe some ethnic groups had higher birth rates than others.
Like I said, this doesn't still undermine the point of your video
0:38 For some reason I thought it's Britain or US.. that was my first guess
Hopefully this mesmerizing language will live and live forever 🖤I adore Punjabi 🌺
My God .. how come I didn't know about your channel 🌚🖤 you're amazing yar.. and such topics are so close to my heart.. 03:59 this hit me.. just bitter and saddening when a language gets so stereotyped that its own people start feeling ashamed of it or uncomfortable woth it.
Im a Punjabi SIkh born in US and im learning punjabi
Well done! My city #Chakwal most famous college name was also KHALSA college .
You r just American Sikh no Punjabi
Do remember Punjabi is ethnicity and Sikh is a religion !
In punabis Muslims Hindus Sikhs Christian (new addition ) are there there3
Now, you are born again.
learning punjabi will help him to know more about his roots.
0:45 In India I Think State like Punjab or Haryana are famous for Punjabi accent, I watching your videos form India
I assume the most Punjabi speakers are in the United Kingdom or the United States… because the Punjabi population was split during the partition of British India, the speakers that live in south Asia were likely split up between India and Pakistan
With Pakistanis you have to distinguish between the official language of government and the mass media, Urdu, and what people speak amongst their family and friends. The use of Punjabi socially is still strong in a domestic context, along with other aspects of Punjabi culture. There is in Pakistan some resentment about the official discouragement of mother tongues, but in reality people go on using them in their private lives. What you fail to consider is that Pakistan has other major ethnic groups too: Sindhis, Balochis, Pathans and various tribal peoples. What is dangerous is if these groups feel the state is biased in favour of the Punjabi group as this could lead to political tensions, best avoided. As I say I think English is the one biggest threat to all languages and cultures because of the growing globalisation of everything.
I am a half-Punjabi, half-European Sikh who was born in Canada. I am currently learning Punjabi (and the Gurmukhi script). I hope Pakistani Punjabis revitalize the Punjabi-language and Shahmukhi script. I hope to visit Pakistan someday. I am also learning Japanese because my girlfriend is Japanese and noticed there are so many resources for learning Japanese but few exist for Punjabi. I wish there were more resources for learning Punjabi.
This is the root of the problem. India and Pakistan people have an inferiority complex which restricts them speaking their language. Well done to japan and korea who respect and are proud of their culture even tho it does not originate there. 😅
Your Indian parent can teach you Punjabi lol
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Thank you for bringing attention to this
I'm a Catalan from southern France and my grandparent's generation stopped transmitting the language to their chidren because they felt it was so useless compared with the so more prestigious French.
We live in a time when humanity could lose 90 % of its languages, thousands of them, and I'm very motivated to preserve those languages with all the other people of good will.
I think it's crazy there isn't a bigger movement for that. Meanwhile fights like LGBT rights or racism mobilise so many people even when those battles for acceptance were won a generation or two ago...
All Italians need to watch this video. If you're Italian, tell your friends and invite them to watch. We have a lot to learn from this
The fact that your channel's name has "Tareekhi" in it, says it all. What does Urdu have anything to do with Punjab and Punjabis?
If there was no urdu..there would be no pakistann..be grateful for north indian muslims....😂
The exact same thing (except for the religion part) has already taken place in Taiwan. The prestigious language is Mandarin Chinese, and all the other languages (Taiwanese/Taigi, Hakka, aboriginal languages) are in decline. According to a survey, over 90% aged over 60 can at least understand spoken Taiwanese, but that figure is in the 30s in the age group of under 11. There are efforts to revitalize these heritage languages, but IMO the trend is hard to reverse. In the best-case scenario, it may be like Welsh, where the dominant language sticks, but most people become fluent in both languages, and schools and the government offer strong support. But if the current trend continues, the outlook is more like Irish's case, where the language is always on life support.
there are many gapes in the above narrative but it has information and raised some questions too
As a non-punjabi surrounded by punjabi colleagues, I started learning punjabi through movies as well as google Search. I was so surprised to find out that, though pakistani punjabi makes majority of the ethnicity, there was no literature work done by this side. Every where i search, all the work was done by indian punjab, written in hindi(sansikrat) script. Their punjabi movies are more culture and linguistic oriented (TLMJ is an exception). Even on playstore there is no worthy punjabi app from pakistani side. Looks like punjabi, as a language is frozen in time and the main reason i understand is beacause of the absolute majority, punjabi is not seen as threatened, so it stopped the evolution any language needs. This is contrary to the minority, which feels threaten by majoriy, keeps them consistently alert and evolving, making them more culture and language oriented(a kind of protectionist). Its only a matter of time, the punjabi language on pakistani side will deminish untill something out of the blue happen to rescue it. Ironically this video is also in English language instead of punjabi.
THE SCRIPT OF PUNJABI IN INDIA IS "GURMUKHI" MEANING THAT IT IS ORIGINATED FROM THE "MUKH" MOUTH OF GURUS. IN PAKISTAN THE SCRIPT IS "SHAHMUKHI". THIS IS JUST TO ADD UP TO YOUR INFORMATION.
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@@amiteshwarsingh9398 thanks
@@amiteshwarsingh9398i‘m sikh and it is obviously you are not punjabi by your knowledge and you name
The point you make of code switching with younger generations is so true for Punjabi families. In urban India, this is a massive trend with Hindi and English becoming the dominant household language.
Beautiful, explaining a language dying in English. Keep it up.
No, why Punjabi is not taught in Punjab Lahnda, because its not a language based province unlike Indian Punjab, but rather a region called Punjab with Saraiki, Pothari, Gojri, and can not impose Punjabi on other languages speakers. It will lead to dismantle the province as happened in Indian Punjab, which have now very nominal representation in their national assembly. However, Punjab should be taught as an optional subject.
Pothari ,Sariki is Dialect of Punjabi Language Bhai 1960 sa pahla Sariki Name hi NAHI tha Google par search kar Ka dekh lo Sariki is Dialect of Punjabi Language
Grierson in his early 20th-century Linguistic Survey of India assigned it to a so-called "Northern cluster" of Lahnda (Western Punjabi), but this classification, as well as the validity of the Lahnda grouping in this case, have been called into question.[6] In a sense both Pothwari, as well as other Lahnda varieties, and Standard Punjabi are "dialects" of a "Greater Punjabi" macrolanguage.[7]
Saade Indian Punjab vich Puadhi boht wakhri boli aa Par fer vi othe standard Punjabi sikhayi jandi aa. Media vich saare standard Punjabi vartde ne. Tusi standard Punjabi banavo apni.
@@user-mu8vy1bn8e Veera nai jido vi Punjabi da nama liya ta Inna Ganga Jamna di oolad nu pata nai ki ho janda Punjabi tü a Sare sarda na
Punjabi da Dard kava inno jido Urdu nu National Language banaya SI odu Pakistan ja kına parcent log Urdu Bolde si
I'm sindhi living in Islamabad and most of the people I come across are punjabis I was shocked when they told me that they never speak punjabi in schools or colleges even if they are majority and if u speak punjabi Infront of a female teacher she would mind it. The Biggest shocking point was when i heard from some punjabis that they don't talk in punjabi with their parents bcz they think punjabi is not an "adab wali zuban". Punjabis are in a ridiculous inferiority complex they have just disowned their language like it was a matter of shame. I am feeling proud and happy that we were not grownup having an inferiority complex we can read write and speak our language in fact it's taught in Madarssas as well. I belong to a small village My mom and aunts can't read and understand english but they can read and write sindhi Alhamdulillah ❤️🎉❤️
Basically Punjab is the major contributor in the creation of Pakistan ... So punjab has also sacrificed more than other identities inorder to adopt the Pakistani identity which is based on Urdu language
My parents can speak Punjabi and I only know Urdu and English, well and I’m born and raised in the US, so in terms of preserving identity, what I’ve observed and from my similar experience peers is that language is first to go. Barely do we have a physical connection to Pakistan, by passport we are western and by culture western (but not white American / European). But religion we are Muslims and it’s really the only identity we could long term preserve in a land and place that is not Pakistan… yet our religion and belief is for all times and places.
Eye opening analysis! Punjabis are very proud of their ethnic identity ( "martial race" etc ) but are ashamed of their own language. There are tendencies, similar but not to this extent, in India too among non-Hindi speakers. Very unfortunate!
In 1952 we fought for our language Bangla Against Pakistani regime. Glad we did that..Otherwise Bangla would face the same situation as Punjabi is facing right now.
I'm so happy for y'all..love from India ❤🎉
But myslim ki language urdu hai unhe urdu bolna chahiye bengali ugly language hai
@@VandanaSingh-jc2ji you have a rottenn brain
That destruction is being done by *PUNJABIS* themselves
Bengali would not have faced the same situation like Punjabi. Bengali language was already a sophisticated language of rich literature (unlike Punjabi or Sindhi). The East Pakistanis actually considered Bengali more advanced than Urdu and did not understand why Urdu alone should be the national language of Pakistan. Thus they protested in 1952. I am glad that they did.
As an Indian Punjabi living in US , I found this video to be very informative. Those of us here from Indian Punjab (regardless of religion) use Punjabi for conversation amongst ourselves with a lot of enthusiasm and take great pride in our Maa-boli. However , while living in USA, I have seen on a number of occasions , while talking to our friends from Pakistani Punjab , a certain reluctance on their part in speaking in Punjabi. This video explains as to why that is the case. I hope that my fellow Punjabis across the border continue to make the effort to protect our common linguistic heritage. Personally, I feel that making Punjabi a mandatory language subject in high schools in Pakistani Punjab, will go a long way in laying a solid foundation for Punjabi use later in life. In our Punjab , having Punjabi as a compulsory subject , even in English medium schools, has played big role in preserving our language.
Loved this
Urdu is Pakistan's national language. I am a Punjabi, but speak excellent Urdu.
Stop appropriating our language..
@@aryanhassan4659what do you mean to say. ?
Thank you for raising this excellent issue.
0:50 Canada
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Haha Idk why but before research I thought the same 😂
this is wild because I also had the same thought?! I felt so silly for thinking that 😂
Punjabi from India - Delhi . Now in Canada - I definitely include Punjabi as my language along with English and Hindi. Most of my Punjabi friends did not.
The most Punjabi speakers are in Canada on Scott Road in Surrey/North Delta.
Give speaking Punjabi a try, especially since your intended audience likely understands it. There's no need for embarrassment; such feelings often stem from a deep-seated sense of inferiority ingrained in Pakistani Punjabi communities over generations. This same pattern is observed among many Punjabis residing outside of Punjab in India.
Consider how Tamils, Bengalis, French, Germans, Spaniards, Italians, and numerous others proudly embrace their native tongues. Rejecting one's mother tongue is akin to rejecting a part of oneself.
Embrace your linguistic heritage with pride and let go of any lingering guilt!
A good analysis anyway
In Pakistan Punjabi is hard to revive as Pakistanis feel ashamed to talk in their mother tongue . 150 years of discrimination with Punjabi langauge can not go away in few months.. Pakistani state had done maximum Shaden in destroying Punjabi langauge. Pakistanis Punjabis had clubbed Punjabi language with Sikhs so religious discrimination is also their.. can Pakistani Punjabis overcome this … In my opinion is very hard
Not everyone is like this, this only happens in posh try hard communities in modern Lahore
Thanks again
Pakistani Punjabis supported the project of Urdu as the "national language" to the extent that they even sacrificed their own language. Meanwhile all the minority ethnicities in Pakistan proudly speak their own languages (Sindhi, Balochi, Pashtu etc). Punjabi is not taught in schools in Punjab province, which is deeply ironic.
Punjabi language and culture is so rich. I’m from Lucknow UP and started learning Punjabi during farmers protest in Delhi
Dont be offended
But punjabi is saved by East punjab by movies, songs which are popular worldwide… whites blacks know Diljit, Sidhu moosewala, Ap dhillon, Karan Aujla etc but they dont know anyone from pakistan who is famous punjabi singer..!!
This is coming from A US citizen and well travelled guy…. I travelled to UK canada Australia NZ Europe..!!
Frankly bollywood because most of bollywood is Punjabi.
Many hindu freedom fighters were fluent in urdu as well
Excellent video
irony you made this vid in english. shoulda made it in punjabi for the cause of punjabi revivalism!
Depends on her audience
I found your comment about Islamabad Punjabis interesting. I was in Dubai a couple of weeks ago (I'm from India, by the way). During my return (Emirates provides limo pick up and drop as well as porter services at the airport for Exec Class passengers), I asked the porter who helped me with my luggage up till the counter, where he was from. He said Pakistan. I then asked in Hindi (Urdu) which part of Pakistan he was from. He said Islamabad. I then switched to Punjabi and said "Te phir tusi Punjabi ho". He seemed most reluctant to acknowledge that leading me to believe that maybe he was a Pashto speaker or something like that. So I (still in Punjabi) asked Kar vich kedi bhasha ich gallan karde ho? With great embarrassment he said (in Urdu), "Ghar mein tau Punjabi bolte hain par bahar sirf Urdu chalti hai". Which I found odd, because I have never yet met an Indian Punjabi, living in Punjab, who disowns Punjabi. That said, non Sikh Punjabis who live outside Punjab, don't speak Punjabi very much but are still pretty proud of the language. And Sikhs, wherever they live, are taught the language ( provided they are Punjabi and not Sindhi Sikhs).
Very well information. 👌