in my country the 12100f is 125 euros and 5500 is around 100 euros, so there is no comparison here. Intel has increased the prices of its i3 / i5 and amd has lowered the prices of all 5000 series, which makes the 5600 model cost around 130/140 euros. So the 12th generation has dropped significantly from being more profitable
Yeah but you gotta count in the mobo prices. For the i3 the cheapest ones are 100€, meanwhile for the r5 it's 50€, making the r5/mobo cost 150€, and the i3/mobo cost 220€
Main conclusion: If a Core i3-12100F is cheaper buy it and if the ryzen 5 5500 is cheaper by around 20$ it will be a "good" option because you will be mostly gpu bound, you wouldn't pair it with a 3080, would you?
@@royaltxc thats fine with most people honestly, I had 10100F paired with 3080 till now for 1440 ultra wide 60fps.. Because I don't need much CPU, I do deep learning model training and those CUDA cores is what i really need, I am sure there are other people like me trying to keep their TDP low by using entry level CPU
Need a little suggestion Why intel cpu is cheaper than its mobo? I tried to build intel pc but shopkeeper said that mobo is expensive than cpu So i was like kinda shocked
I still think it is pretty cool that these days an i3 is actually a reasonable option, whereas back before Intel had any competition the i3 was pretty much trash tier and to be avoided
I recently build a 2nd rig with i3-12100F on a cheap B660 mobo with crucial P5 plus pcie 4 m.2. Undervolted my rtx 3060 Ti and playing games at below 100 Watts(GPU) with little to no loss in FPS while the stock was consuming upto 200 Watts.
For now the only thing I don't like about Intel, is the short MOBO support and for the high cost, a MOBO for only 2 gen is too short. Intel has improved a lot, since gen 12, I have to admit. I have a ryzen 2700x, in a while I'll think about what to bet on, but the abusive costs of MOBOs for 2 gen is an obstacle.
Eu comprei uma biostar b550m com dissipadores nos vrms, 2 slots pra ssd sendo um pci express 4.0, e também tem slot ngff para wireless, tudo por menos de U$90. E ainda peguei um Ryzen 5 5600 sem caixa por U$134. Isso a Intel não conseguiu concorrer.
@@iwritegoodessays9779 no... only i7 or i9 need an aftermarket cooler... try running a ryxen 9 on a stock cooler youll get the same result... or even a 5800x
that CPU is crazy. Soon imm gonna change my 2700k for another 4core-CPU, 10 years and still not more cores lol. But that thing is twice as fast and needs almost no power. I love it.
You def made the right decision, AM4 is at its end so going for 12th gen intel is more wise than going for a 5th gen ryzen. Gives you an upgrade path for raptor lake too.
@@DeeMastah 12th gen intel boards will not be good either. 13th gen will have the same gaming performance as 12th gen and intel will kill the mainboard line with 13th gen . youre gonna need a new board for 14th gen
i would still go with the 5500, because the motherboard will be much cheaper. because you can get a 12100f for $105-$110 while you can get the 5500 for $75-$99. Also the r5 5500 beats the i3 12100f in some games.
@@-Ice_Cold- прежде чем такое ляпнуть посмотри тесты с процессором, и в сравнении с например I5 12400F, который ровно в 2 раза дороже а мощнее на 5-20% в играх в меньшую сторону, с учетом очень мощной видеокарты. Разница меньше будет если видеокарта среднего сегмента
I think you'll be fine playing current games on either cpu. Look at the total platform cost with MB, then make your decision. That said, there were some serious dips and very high usage on i3 in CP2077, one of the most cpu demanding games right now, 5500 looked much better there. Only time will tell how many more of cpu intensive games we will see going forward, but for time being both of them are fine budget cpus
I really wouldn't recommend the 5500 at all though. It sells for around the same price as the 3600 and 5600 normally and they are both much better. If you didn't already know, the R5 4500 and 5500 are repackaged old gen laptop processors that don't support pcie gen 4 and other things.
@@hartmutdietz1228 It has more features than the 5500 and if the fps is less in any games it's not by much. Although I agree "much better" was a stretch. Also to correct myself they aren't technically repackaged laptop CPUs but they are the same architecture as older laptop CPUs and have the same feature set and their specs are more similar to the previous gen laptop CPUs than they are the newer desktop ones. That doesn't necessarily mean they they perform really bad in comparison. But something to not is if value is what you're looking for you can probably find a used Ryzen 5 3600 for cheaper than a new 5500 these days. I see 3600s sell on eBay for like $80-$100 here and there.
In my country a 5500 costs about $130 while a 3600 costs about $180. Wack ass prices, hell, a brand new rx6600 is about $240 while a used 2060 costs about $320 here.
For mutlitasking and background tasks I would choose the ryzen. For longer term maybe the intel (upgrade path). But the 5800X 3D is a very good CPU, so it is not an easy choice. Or maybe I would wait until the new platform comes out from AMD - AM5. ;)
Am5 too expensive, 5800x3D will go on a discount after zen4 gets out. 5800x3D will be very good for gaming for min next 5 years... By that time Intel will probably already be bankrupt lo
@@damara2268 Intel will never be benkrupped, because they have their own tricks (there are many companies, selling high end a bussiness class notebooks only with intel CPU). And don't forget the server market! Amd is nearly twice as good as intel but still intel has more then 87 % market share at that segment.
@@Theworthsearcher those companies are already beginning to switch over to d because with AMD they can use weaker cooling system and smaller battery because mobile Ryzen 6000 is almost two times more power efficient over mobile alder lake
@@damara2268 Hmmm... Not really. At hte U series segment, yes. The AMD is more power efficent. But even though the companies use intel. And if you ask, why, they say: Just. ;)
I never thought I'd see flight sim run so well on i3 12th gen. Wow, this can save lots of bucks for some simmers, but the RTX killed the build lol. 3080 is still high price.
@@archvile1313 there's always a bottleneck in a system. If we were able to eliminate all bottlenecks, we would have infinite power. Just because you see high framerates doesn't mean that there are no bottlenecks. In this case, the cpus are heavily bottlenecking the gpu. How are you supposed to know that? By looking at gpu usage. When gpu usage is not at 95% - 99%, it means it's bottlenecked by the cpu. This test used the 3080 so that the cpu becomes the bottleneck so it can be fully utilized so we can know how far it can go.
@@thelonelyowl2654 Yes I remember watching a video where they say GPU needs to be at 100% all the time. But, let's say if he used a 3060, he won't be having that great performance right? And FPS will be lower.
@@archvile1313 3080 is about twice as fast as 3060, but I expect In the games that were at 60% - 70% gpu usage the framerates I expect only to be 20% - 30% lower. Obviously the difference will be bigger in the games that had more gpu usage.
Another thing to keep in mind is that Ryzen benefits greatly from high RAM frequency, more so than Intel. If this system was running with 3200Mhz or 2666Mhz Ram we would be looking at a larger gap.
I don't know where you all live, but here in Canada, the prices for AMD and Intel mobos are pretty much identical. So, you're free to go with whichever team you favour. :)
If you guy still think motherboard is a thing then just check out i3 12th has very good p/p, that is enough for casual just wanna have a pc without thinking about it
Prices in Cyprus: i3 12100F = 129 euro i5 12400F = 249 euro R5 5500 = 155 euro R5 5600G = 229 euro R5 5600X = 289 euro Right now for GAMING is seems the 12100F is KING! only reason to go R5 5500 is for the extra cores for multitasking EDIT: Ryzen 5500 is now 139 euro in Cyprus so I guess that makes it an even better option to buy LOL!
hey i live in cyprus too, btw, i will get 5500 because of lower cpu usage. it doesnt worth to get i3 with more cpu usage i had that problem with my i5 9400f, basically i was getting frame drops because it reached %100 usage on cpu, so i decided to buy 5500 and now waiting it to arrive. people do recommend i3 over 5500 but it doesnt worth to get i3 imo just for like 15 fps difference, i rather have better multi core performance that could give me advantage over cpu bounded games
Perhaps we should stop looking at it as a gaming processor, but more of a content creator processor. Think about it. Cache doesn’t usually matter in content creation, and this is basically the best cheap 6 core cpu you can get. So we should look at this as a ultra budget editing cpu or smth. Maybe even a video editing pc for thise who dont need maximum gaming performance
@@arenzricodexd4409 i know. But the gaming prowess isn’t that bad. Its just outshined by the newest cpus thats all. Like i said this is probably directed at content creators who don’t really care too much about gaming
@@4cid950 AMD release Ryzen 5500 as a response to intel alder lake on the low end. it might better than 12100 in content creator stuff because it has more cores and thread but it's price tag (at least when we look at 5500 original MSRP) actually makes it compete more with the likes of 12400F rather than 12100/12100F.
@@arenzricodexd4409 yeah you are righ, and I do think it is a poor excuse against the 12400f. but I've seen the 5500 dropping quite a lot and its getting closer to the 12100(at least in my region).
@@4cid950 That's fine. Of course newer cpu architecture will always beat the the past cpus. But it doesn't mean you have to have the latest cpu cause there will always be newer. Intel also almost releases 2 gens of cpu in 1 year I dunno why they do that.
I would go with a 5600 instead. It's massively better. The 5500 was originally meant to be a laptop chip not a desktop one and it doesn't support pcie 4 among other features. Right now the 5600 only costs about $10 more. Even the 3600 would likely be a better choice over the 5500 honestly and it's cheaper.
@@curie1420 Don't get me wrong, 6 core is great, but the i7-8700K or the first 6 core gaming beast was launched 5 years ago and the 9900K shortly after that and aged way better.
@@PanPan-ml1ip which gpu are you using.. Should i go with 5500 or 5600 . For 5500 we can get the best b450 motherboard for low cost. I am going to purchase a 6600xt or 6650xt or should i go with 5600 for future proofing with nearly 80$ expensive
Not true. I use a 3080 with a 12100f and it's fine. If you are gaming at 1440p or even 4k at 60 fps, the difference between the higher end cpus diminishes.
I3 here is definitely better. But the problem with intel is they keep introducing expensive motherboards with every generation. While you can run the R5 5500 on something as cheap as a B450.
When the 5500 released for $160, it was to be avoided at all costs, but now at least where I am 12100f is $115 and 5500 is $120, it's much better value when you also consider a motherboard. I can get a $100 wifi B550M mobo that can probably run a 5950x if I really wanted. You can't do that on 1700 boards. Like if you get a sub $120 mobo it will probably bottleneck even a 12400f.
@C well rip. Just go on pc part picker, select your country, select b550 and wifi 5 & 6 and sort by cheapest. You will probably find one for $120 or less. If not, just make a cpu and mobo combo for both 12100f and 5500. If they're the same price get 12100f.
@C honestly I can't wait for ltt labs. If they start testing all this shit so we don't have to relly on deceiving specs it's gonna be a real gamechanger.
hello I want to build a pc but I would like 2 thing 1) Which processor is better Intel Core i3 12100F or AMD Ryzen 5 5500 2) Which graphics card is better NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1630 or AMD Radeon RX 6400 Thank you very much I look forward to your answers
i3-12100f, RX6400 Because i3 (and the mainboard) supports PCIE 4.0, so the rx6400 will have advantage Ryzen 5 5500 has only pcie 3.0! Also RX6400 seems to be on the level of gtx1650 or intel arc a380, so better than gtx 1630 Or pick the RX6500XT, maybe it's only 20-30 euro/dollar more
i would not recommend intel for the excessive price of motherboards, in my country i3 12100f and ryzen 5 5500 are priced almost the same but for intel you have to pay a lot for even a basic motherboard like 80€ minimum for amd you can find a cheap b450 for like 50€ or even a320 for like 30€ and it would run anyway
Same as my country. I'm using ryzen 3600 now and considering for an upgrade. But the price of changing to Intel cheapest and latest chip WITH the motherboard are high, it's better to just get the ryzen 5800x3d. I don't even need to buy new motherboard because it is supported
Im gonna build a pc soon and i dont know if i should choose the 12100f or the 5500, the 12100f costs 5800 php in my country and the 5500 costs 5400 php, while it would be nice because i could upgrade the 12100f into a 13th gen one the motherboards on lga1700 are kinda expensive, but on the other hand the only good upgrade to the 5500 would be the 5800x3d and the motherboards are cheaper too!, so should i buy a 5500 or a 12100f?
i3 for pure gaming. 5500 if you have other things running in the background while you game. Also, depends on your region, coz some area have more expensive Intel while others have more expensive AMD parts.
rapaziada simples, sim o 12100f da mais FPS por ter um cache alto e o lga 1700 mais o problema e um, ele tem 4 núcleos e 8 threads eu indicaria vc pegar ele se não for fazer Live, usar Discord enquanto joga e etc pq por ter poucos threads vai super aquecer o Pc e pode travar ,mais já se vc só joga n usa o DC e nem faz live recomendo o 12100f caso contrário vai de R 5500 que aí não vai ter dor de cabeça e um ótimo processador 6 núcleos 12 threads.
I3 12100F seems like a steal for gaming, but only 4 cores. I wonder how it will do video editing? Now I have outdated Ryzen 7 2700X with 8 cores. I3 12100F just seems so good, but does it work with video editing? Is it better than my Ryzen 7 2700X?
Not well.... the Ryzen 5 5500 is better for video editing. It makes no sense for you to move to Intel anyway since you already have a socket AM4 motherboard. Just run a BIOS update and go with Zen 3. Upgrading to a Ryzen 5700x or 5800x for $250-300 would be a much, much smarter move than moving to a 12100f at $110 + an lga1700 board that's $120. Look up the video TG did a few weeks ago of the i9-9900k against the i5-12400. Even though the i9-9900k is old, it still beat the 12400 in gaming. The Ryzen 5700x beats the 9900k in gaming by a few percent. You really should be looking at the Ryzen 5 5600 at the least..... and the Ryzen 7 5700x if you can bankroll more. The 5600 is only slightly slower than the Core i5-12400, and the 5600x is even with the 12400. The Ryzen 5 5500 is cheaper of course, but it's a gimped Ryzen 5 5600g with less L3 cache and no iGPU. The 5600 runs circles around the 5500 and 5600g in gaming. However, the 2700x is still an 8-core CPU so you're not going to gain much in the video editing department by jumping to a modern 6-core. The only other thing to bear in mind is the software you're using. Does that software take advantage of the H.264 encoder that come with Intel's iGPU?
Due to long due IPC improvements. Apologies but I'll have to write if anyone comes to same comment with misconception. 10nm did help alot, although 7nm of TSMC is not comparable to 10nm of Intel. Both measure "nm" with different scales. It's similar to "kilobyte". Old scientists used it to represent 1024 bytes but hard drive manufacturers represented 1000 bytes to take benefit from this loop hole. Definitely it is confusing but it is what it is. Only valid way to compare CPUs is comparing performance in applications you'll use like games, blender or using a non biased benchmark tool like cine bench.
@@Gabe_B-1 What I meant was its a lot closer to the laptop cpus than the rest of the 5000 series. The 5500 and 5600g are really bad compared to the 5600 and above. The 5500 doesn't have much more performance than the Ryzen 5 2600 from 2 generations before.
Amazing how little power Ryzen 5500 draws comparing it to i3 and considering it has 2 more cores to feed. Great job AMD I want to upgrade to AMD Ryzen from my Intel i5 6500 and I find even mobo's for Ryzen better as value compared to what you get from Intel mobo's
i believe ryzen 5 5500 is doing better than the pcie 4.0 ryzen 5 3600, the 5500 has better fps in some games against the 12100f, the ryzen 5 3600 that i saw in this channel had less fps than 12100f in any games
@@vermin1816 You obviously don't know what that 6 cores R5 5500 can do with it's Cezanne controller able to run 4400+ ram in 1:1 EZ on almost any cheap b520+ mboard. Noob xD
@@vermin1816 Yeah..... but the 5600g and 5500 are ported from AMD's laptop segment. Less cache, etc. The only reason AMD released the 5500 is because they had too many defective 5600g CPU's lying around.
мне кто-то обьяснит почему на тестах с разен 5 5500 постоянно используется меньше оперативной памяти чем у процессора от интел , в некотрых играх разница в 1-1.6 гигабайта?
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4000 series from AMD can't beat entry level i3 alder lake. Even the Midrange 5000 series can't beat it despite having lower nanometer and high core count.
it's like comparing 20series gpu with 30series... ryzen 5000 was released to compete against 10th gen... ryzen 7000 will compare against 13th gen which will be fair
@@ztz8787 No. Ryzen 5000 was to beat outright 10th gen in every aspect, not just compete. Ryzen 3000 and 4000 were those to compete with Intel. It's not like 20 series vs 30 series. The 5500 is lackluster Zen 3 (half the cache and PCIe 3)
Ok o 12100 se equipara ao 5500 e custa menos, mas no Brasil a diferença é pequena e a placa mãe de 13 geração Intel é muito cara, então muitas vz o kit 5500 sai mais barato. Sem contar q AM4 suporta centenas de cpus e a Intel muda a compatibilidade cada 2 gerações, montei varias plataformas Intel e Amd nos últimos anos, e mesmo a Intel tendo melhorado muito agora ainda prefiro a Amd, porque tenho muito mais liberdade e opções de Up.
Sim, mas em questão a futuro upgrade, vc pode sair de um 12100 e ir para um 13400 de 6+4C/16T, e como AM4 não irá ter mais continuidade as opções são de ir para o 5600X que com certeza perderá em desempenho e MT do 13400.
>>> "...no Brasil a diferença é pequena e a placa mãe de 13 geração Intel é muito cara, então muitas vz o kit 5500 sai mais barato". Quando o i3-12100F foi lançado isso era verdade - o kit CPU+Mobo do Ryzen 5500 saia mais barato. Mas agora no segundo semestre de 2022 a situação inverteu (preços de 01/09): Ryzen 5500 - 870,00 Gigabyte B450M DS3H V2 - 580,00 (MSI A520M-A - 533,00) Total: 1.450,00 (ou 1.403,00). I3-12100F - 690,00 Asus Prime H610M-A - 690,00 (Gigabyte H610M S2H - 600,00). Total: 1.380,00 (ou 1.320,00) Vantagens do kit Intel - além de um pouco mais barato a placa mãe PCI 4.0 poderá suportar melhor os novos lançamentos em VGA, e o soquete LGA 1700 poderá usar CPU i3, 15 da 13ª geração (a ser lançada em Setembro). E no dia 30 de agosto a AMD ao anunciar o AM5, "matou" o AM4 - que durou muito ~ 5 anos. 😉
@@Sokol10 Mas aí tem outra questão pra analisar, eu até posso ter essa opção de um futuro upgrade com a décima terceira geração comprando o i3, mas a realidade de muitos que compram esses cpus é diferente, muita gente procura alguma coisa razoável e que dure o máximo de tempo possível, e um 4/8 não me da muita segurança hoje em dia não, acho que nesse caso o 5500 sendo um 6/12 pode acabar tendo uma vida mais longa dando mais estabilidade em futuros jogos, e uma B450 da margem pra muitos upgrades bem interessantes também, não acho que vale a pena contar com uma coisa que nem foi lançada ainda, como o upgrade pra 13 gen, fora esse histórico ridículo da intel em trocar de socket a cada 2 gerações, acho que ela não merece mais o meu dinheiro, e a 11 gen foi uma piada, quem me garante que a 13 não vai seguir o mesmo caminho? E sinceramente, se você comprar uma vga pcie x16, não vai fazer diferença a geração 3.0 da 4.0, a pessoa que compra um cpu de entrada desses não passa das gerações xx60 ou x600 das vgas mais recentes, nem uma 3080 vai ter alguma diferença fora da margem de erro nessa questão das gerações de pci express, não faz sentido pensar nisso, só vai fazer diferença pra algumas placas de barramento x4-x8, e essas é melhor nem comprar, tem coisa melhor pelo mesmo preço no mercado. Se a realidade da pessoa não permite que ela compre um processador de entrada com o upgrade de uma coisa que nem foi lançada em mente o 12100 não vale a pena na minha visão, chega de quad core. E a AMD não "matou" o socket AM4 anunciando o AM5 não amigo, provavelmente o AM4 vai ser o melhor cxb por muito tempo ainda, ou você acha que vai ser barato montar um kit com DDR5? Não é porque saiu uma geração nova que obrigatoriamente todo mundo precise mudar pra ela, relaxa pô. 😉
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i3 pairs better with GPU and R5 performs better in cpu prioritized games . Also R5 ensures more stable Fps and cheaper MB . So I won’t suggest buying i3 . If you have budget then go for i5
5 5500 is good option if you already on am4 platform and (or) you broke and need cheap cpu for work projects (more cores = more perfomance) Here 12100f beat him because alot of games actually uses from 1 to 4 cores and here newgen intel beats amd ahh. But in games that uses all 6 cores Amd equal or lil bit better doing his job. So if you have am4 mobo 5500 is your chose, but if you try to build pc from zero intel will save your pocket.
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in my country the 12100f is 125 euros and 5500 is around 100 euros, so there is no comparison here. Intel has increased the prices of its i3 / i5 and amd has lowered the prices of all 5000 series, which makes the 5600 model cost around 130/140 euros. So the 12th generation has dropped significantly from being more profitable
Yeah but you gotta count in the mobo prices. For the i3 the cheapest ones are 100€, meanwhile for the r5 it's 50€, making the r5/mobo cost 150€, and the i3/mobo cost 220€
in my country 5500 is lil bit cheaper lol
@@whynotlego7242 what mobo do you recommend for the 5500, something reliable and cheap, thanks
@@abetuna2707 get a 12100f with the cheapest asrock b660 board
in my country i3 12100F is under 100$ and ryzen 5 5600 is 150$ soo for me i3 wins
Main conclusion: If a Core i3-12100F is cheaper buy it and if the ryzen 5 5500 is cheaper by around 20$ it will be a "good" option because you will be mostly gpu bound, you wouldn't pair it with a 3080, would you?
for months i used i3 9100f with 6800xt. and it felt good, i only changed to 12700f because 9100f cant run god of war and ac odyssey at 60 frames.
@@darry1308
for months your 6800xt had a limited performance, probably like a 6600xt
@@royaltxc thats fine with most people honestly, I had 10100F paired with 3080 till now for 1440 ultra wide 60fps.. Because I don't need much CPU, I do deep learning model training and those CUDA cores is what i really need, I am sure there are other people like me trying to keep their TDP low by using entry level CPU
@@manjindersinghsaini911 it should be capable of 720p low, then only it's is non bottleneck
Need a little suggestion
Why intel cpu is cheaper than its mobo?
I tried to build intel pc but shopkeeper said that mobo is expensive than cpu
So i was like kinda shocked
I still think it is pretty cool that these days an i3 is actually a reasonable option, whereas back before Intel had any competition the i3 was pretty much trash tier and to be avoided
4 cores is too little
Cores dont matter, performance matters. (IPC)
@@tj3495 I know, but for today's games it's really little, especially in the future
@@-Ice_Cold- not really
@@-Ice_Cold- it's not little, stop that core nonsense
I recently build a 2nd rig with i3-12100F on a cheap B660 mobo with crucial P5 plus pcie 4 m.2. Undervolted my rtx 3060 Ti and playing games at below 100 Watts(GPU) with little to no loss in FPS while the stock was consuming upto 200 Watts.
How ? Did you reduce GPU watts which software you used ?
@@goregejones7248 msi afterburner
how much did ye paid for?
You can't reduce GPU power consumption that much by just undervolting, you have to underclock it as well
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For now the only thing I don't like about Intel, is the short MOBO support and for the high cost, a MOBO for only 2 gen is too short. Intel has improved a lot, since gen 12, I have to admit.
I have a ryzen 2700x, in a while I'll think about what to bet on, but the abusive costs of MOBOs for 2 gen is an obstacle.
Eu comprei uma biostar b550m com dissipadores nos vrms, 2 slots pra ssd sendo um pci express 4.0, e também tem slot ngff para wireless, tudo por menos de U$90. E ainda peguei um Ryzen 5 5600 sem caixa por U$134. Isso a Intel não conseguiu concorrer.
Intel sucks, all their chips requires aftermarket cooler or else overheat like shit
@@iwritegoodessays9779 no... only i7 or i9 need an aftermarket cooler... try running a ryxen 9 on a stock cooler youll get the same result... or even a 5800x
@@TheBURBAN111 no shit man, my 4 core ryzen with stock cooler maxed temp at 70 while gaming,... my 4 core intel stock cooler 85 when gamming
@@iwritegoodessays9779 of course a newer 4 core ran cooler than an old power hungry intel on a stock cooler...
that CPU is crazy. Soon imm gonna change my 2700k for another 4core-CPU, 10 years and still not more cores lol. But that thing is twice as fast and needs almost no power. I love it.
Yep, modern i3 4c/8t are no joke.
I bought the i3-12100f I hope I made the right decision, And as graphics card I bought AMD RX6600.
You def made the right decision, AM4 is at its end so going for 12th gen intel is more wise than going for a 5th gen ryzen. Gives you an upgrade path for raptor lake too.
@@DeeMastah thanks, I think so too, if I want to improve CPU in the future, I can do this easily
@@0xhamza Which motherboard did you went for?
@@rahuloberoi9739 ASUS PRIME H610M-K D4
@@DeeMastah 12th gen intel boards will not be good either. 13th gen will have the same gaming performance as 12th gen and intel will kill the mainboard line with 13th gen . youre gonna need a new board for 14th gen
R5 5500 now with 90$ is no way comparable to the i3
your right the i3 is far better
i would still go with the 5500, because the motherboard will be much cheaper. because you can get a 12100f for $105-$110 while you can get the 5500 for $75-$99. Also the r5 5500 beats the i3 12100f in some games.
And the 5500 have more cores + less cpu utilisation
@@hehejdn1463 Это плохо?
@@cloveraniumfreezingraine7870 English bro
@@hehejdn1463 Я не английский Бро.
@@cloveraniumfreezingraine7870он сказал, типо больше ядер и меньше нагрузка. Правда это полный бред)
I just got 12100f, its a crazy CPU after 3770k. I dont even look at Ryzen 5500, in Russia 5500 25% more exepensive then 12100f
Btw i3 12100f faster than i7 7700k
4 ядра в 2023💀
@@-Ice_Cold- прежде чем такое ляпнуть посмотри тесты с процессором, и в сравнении с например I5 12400F, который ровно в 2 раза дороже а мощнее на 5-20% в играх в меньшую сторону, с учетом очень мощной видеокарты. Разница меньше будет если видеокарта среднего сегмента
@@Narrization Удачи с фризами и лагами в требовательных играх. Хотя, я думаю, ты и так уже ощущаешь
@@-Ice_Cold- лол) их вовсе нету) 4 ядра 8 потоков, т ы о чем вообще? не видел ни разу их)
I think you'll be fine playing current games on either cpu. Look at the total platform cost with MB, then make your decision. That said, there were some serious dips and very high usage on i3 in CP2077, one of the most cpu demanding games right now, 5500 looked much better there. Only time will tell how many more of cpu intensive games we will see going forward, but for time being both of them are fine budget cpus
I really wouldn't recommend the 5500 at all though. It sells for around the same price as the 3600 and 5600 normally and they are both much better. If you didn't already know, the R5 4500 and 5500 are repackaged old gen laptop processors that don't support pcie gen 4 and other things.
The 3600 is not much better than the 5500, I think it is even slightly worse!
@@hartmutdietz1228 It has more features than the 5500 and if the fps is less in any games it's not by much. Although I agree "much better" was a stretch.
Also to correct myself they aren't technically repackaged laptop CPUs but they are the same architecture as older laptop CPUs and have the same feature set and their specs are more similar to the previous gen laptop CPUs than they are the newer desktop ones. That doesn't necessarily mean they they perform really bad in comparison.
But something to not is if value is what you're looking for you can probably find a used Ryzen 5 3600 for cheaper than a new 5500 these days. I see 3600s sell on eBay for like $80-$100 here and there.
@@GhostAcez in my country 5500 is lil bit cheaper than 3600 lol about $10 difference
In my country a 5500 costs about $130 while a 3600 costs about $180. Wack ass prices, hell, a brand new rx6600 is about $240 while a used 2060 costs about $320 here.
For mutlitasking and background tasks I would choose the ryzen. For longer term maybe the intel (upgrade path). But the 5800X 3D is a very good CPU, so it is not an easy choice. Or maybe I would wait until the new platform comes out from AMD - AM5. ;)
Am5 too expensive, 5800x3D will go on a discount after zen4 gets out.
5800x3D will be very good for gaming for min next 5 years...
By that time Intel will probably already be bankrupt lo
@@damara2268
Intel will never be benkrupped, because they have their own tricks (there are many companies, selling high end a bussiness class notebooks only with intel CPU). And don't forget the server market! Amd is nearly twice as good as intel but still intel has more then 87 % market share at that segment.
@@Theworthsearcher those companies are already beginning to switch over to d because with AMD they can use weaker cooling system and smaller battery because mobile Ryzen 6000 is almost two times more power efficient over mobile alder lake
@@damara2268
Hmmm... Not really. At hte U series segment, yes. The AMD is more power efficent. But even though the companies use intel. And if you ask, why, they say: Just. ;)
The only difference i noticed between these 2 cpu is the i3 usage is a bit higher than the r5 5500
It’s got 2 less cores its usage will always be higher
@@Gabe_B-1 yeah that's why i got the ryzen 5 5500
I never thought I'd see flight sim run so well on i3 12th gen. Wow, this can save lots of bucks for some simmers, but the RTX killed the build lol. 3080 is still high price.
The RTX 3080 is used test the CPU's performance that way there isnt any GPU bottleneck. Obviously its not a realistic build.
@@yeetus59 What you mean? Neither are bottlenecking.
@@archvile1313 there's always a bottleneck in a system. If we were able to eliminate all bottlenecks, we would have infinite power. Just because you see high framerates doesn't mean that there are no bottlenecks. In this case, the cpus are heavily bottlenecking the gpu. How are you supposed to know that? By looking at gpu usage. When gpu usage is not at 95% - 99%, it means it's bottlenecked by the cpu. This test used the 3080 so that the cpu becomes the bottleneck so it can be fully utilized so we can know how far it can go.
@@thelonelyowl2654 Yes I remember watching a video where they say GPU needs to be at 100% all the time. But, let's say if he used a 3060, he won't be having that great performance right? And FPS will be lower.
@@archvile1313 3080 is about twice as fast as 3060, but I expect In the games that were at 60% - 70% gpu usage the framerates I expect only to be 20% - 30% lower. Obviously the difference will be bigger in the games that had more gpu usage.
price depends on country , here in france the R5 5500 costs About 160€ and the i3 12100F costs 180€
Stop dire n'importe quoi le i3 12100f se trouve à 110 balles en France 😀
en ile france c a 160 balles chez ldlc
@@rxnn.9184
Le 12100 oui il est à 160 € mais là on parle du 12100F (celui du test ) qui est à 110 € même en IDF.
UR TROLLing I guess would u give me Ur discord and give me a link plz?
Another thing to keep in mind is that Ryzen benefits greatly from high RAM frequency, more so than Intel. If this system was running with 3200Mhz or 2666Mhz Ram we would be looking at a larger gap.
Ik right its actually running at even higher, 3600
@@dazth3legend670 I know, that's what i meant. The I3 would lead by a even higher margin on lower RAM frequency
lol 5500 will be cheaper than 30 dollars because the i3 motherboard is more expensive and these 5-10 fps are not worth this overpayment
i3 still a budget king imoo
until u factor in intel 12th gen motherboard prices
@@ztz8787yeah that h610 motherboard price is so high for such lower budget motherboard
Intel motherboard price is the problem not intel cpu price. So not a budget king.
I don't know where you all live, but here in Canada, the prices for AMD and Intel mobos are pretty much identical. So, you're free to go with whichever team you favour. :)
If you guy still think motherboard is a thing then just check out i3 12th has very good p/p, that is enough for casual just wanna have a pc without thinking about it
Prices in Cyprus:
i3 12100F = 129 euro
i5 12400F = 249 euro
R5 5500 = 155 euro
R5 5600G = 229 euro
R5 5600X = 289 euro
Right now for GAMING is seems the 12100F is KING! only reason to go R5 5500 is for the extra cores for multitasking
EDIT:
Ryzen 5500 is now 139 euro in Cyprus so I guess that makes it an even better option to buy LOL!
hey i live in cyprus too, btw, i will get 5500 because of lower cpu usage. it doesnt worth to get i3 with more cpu usage i had that problem with my i5 9400f, basically i was getting frame drops because it reached %100 usage on cpu, so i decided to buy 5500 and now waiting it to arrive. people do recommend i3 over 5500 but it doesnt worth to get i3 imo just for like 15 fps difference, i rather have better multi core performance that could give me advantage over cpu bounded games
Perhaps we should stop looking at it as a gaming processor, but more of a content creator processor. Think about it. Cache doesn’t usually matter in content creation, and this is basically the best cheap 6 core cpu you can get. So we should look at this as a ultra budget editing cpu or smth. Maybe even a video editing pc for thise who dont need maximum gaming performance
The test here is about gaming.
@@arenzricodexd4409 i know. But the gaming prowess isn’t that bad. Its just outshined by the newest cpus thats all. Like i said this is probably directed at content creators who don’t really care too much about gaming
@@4cid950 AMD release Ryzen 5500 as a response to intel alder lake on the low end. it might better than 12100 in content creator stuff because it has more cores and thread but it's price tag (at least when we look at 5500 original MSRP) actually makes it compete more with the likes of 12400F rather than 12100/12100F.
@@arenzricodexd4409 yeah you are righ, and I do think it is a poor excuse against the 12400f. but I've seen the 5500 dropping quite a lot and its getting closer to the 12100(at least in my region).
@@4cid950 That's fine. Of course newer cpu architecture will always beat the the past cpus. But it doesn't mean you have to have the latest cpu cause there will always be newer. Intel also almost releases 2 gens of cpu in 1 year I dunno why they do that.
The one that fit my 2018 B450 AM4 Motherboard, obviously...
I would go with a 5600 instead. It's massively better. The 5500 was originally meant to be a laptop chip not a desktop one and it doesn't support pcie 4 among other features. Right now the 5600 only costs about $10 more. Even the 3600 would likely be a better choice over the 5500 honestly and it's cheaper.
@@GhostAcez The 5600 was the same price as the 5600X in my region, 60% more expensive.
@@alexmar4252 Well in your case it may be different and the 5500 may be more worth it for you.
Great game selection as usual!
i3 great at single core, imagine the i3 having more core, oh wait that's i9
or an i5...most people forget games dont use more than 6cores
@@curie1420 Ehh?
The majority of people playing games on steam have 4 cores.
@@curie1420 Don't get me wrong, 6 core is great, but the i7-8700K or the first 6 core gaming beast was launched 5 years ago and the 9900K shortly after that and aged way better.
Conclusion: both of them are really good budget options just get whatever’s cheaper
These 2 rig same gaming performance and same prices in my country. But r5 5500 have more c/t. Should i go with r5 5500?
Did u buy 5500
@@praneeth5048 yes. Actually i tried both of them. I prefer r5 5500 bcuz more c/t really helpful while multitasking
@@PanPan-ml1ip which gpu are you using.. Should i go with 5500 or 5600 . For 5500 we can get the best b450 motherboard for low cost. I am going to purchase a 6600xt or 6650xt or should i go with 5600 for future proofing with nearly 80$ expensive
Intel is Intel, stability rocks.
12th gen i3 didn't dissapoint, just hope that in meteor lake intel can increase the i3 cores for 6 instead of just 4
Bruh you forget about i5
@@zodiajak2962 13th gen i5's will have at least "10 cores" so...
Or at least 4 P cores + 4 E cores for the Meteor Lake i3 ... 🙏
@@R6ex according to leaks, that's not gonna happen sadly
Would a 12100F enough for a rx 6700xt? Also for this processor, is it needed to go for a b660 or h610 is fine?
@Captain_Morgan Memory overclock in Intel make little improvement.
Ryzen 5 5500 Wins they are the same price but the AM4 Motherboard is cheaper and The Ryzen CPU is overclockable to 4.6GHz
it don't b660m is cheaper as 12th Gen mobos are also getting much much cheaper
and i3 could be turbo boosted too at 4.6ghz too
I loved the video, but Nobody is going to use a 3080 with any of these processors (?
It's a good way of figuring out which CPU is best by eliminating GPU bottleneck.
That's true...... but if the owners of these processors upgrade in the future..... then they can expect this kind of performance difference.
We are testing cpu performance here, we need the cpu to bottleneck in order to do that
Not true. I use a 3080 with a 12100f and it's fine. If you are gaming at 1440p or even 4k at 60 fps, the difference between the higher end cpus diminishes.
Basically more consistent framerates vs higher framerates.
Personally I would still go with the 6 core for higher multitasking headroom.
No ones bought 3080 for 1080p expect they are tryhard
3080 with Ryzen 5500: 21.4 % bottleneck
3080 with i312100f: 29.5 % bottleneck
Very unlikely that 12100 ran 3600MHz in gear mode 1.
12100 2,08% faster than 5500 on average
5500 1,69% slower than 12100 on average
i3 is so good but in my country the Intel so expensive than the AMD motherboards.
Please start testing those CPUs with AMD card and their newest Adrenaline driver
I3 here is definitely better. But the problem with intel is they keep introducing expensive motherboards with every generation. While you can run the R5 5500 on something as cheap as a B450.
When the 5500 released for $160, it was to be avoided at all costs, but now at least where I am 12100f is $115 and 5500 is $120, it's much better value when you also consider a motherboard. I can get a $100 wifi B550M mobo that can probably run a 5950x if I really wanted. You can't do that on 1700 boards. Like if you get a sub $120 mobo it will probably bottleneck even a 12400f.
@C msi B550M pro vdh wifi is €105.
@C well rip. Just go on pc part picker, select your country, select b550 and wifi 5 & 6 and sort by cheapest. You will probably find one for $120 or less. If not, just make a cpu and mobo combo for both 12100f and 5500. If they're the same price get 12100f.
@C unlikely? It will run it but probably throttle the speed of the cpu because of overheating vrm
@C honestly I can't wait for ltt labs. If they start testing all this shit so we don't have to relly on deceiving specs it's gonna be a real gamechanger.
new i3 will prob be the new budget king, as long as it costs abt half 5600x
it was meant to be a reply below but oh well
New i3 mean 13 th generation? When is it?
@@irnakurnia9425 yes i thought it will have ecores but turned it doesnt, but the 14100 indeed great but not so budget
hello I want to build a pc but I would like 2 thing
1) Which processor is better
Intel Core i3 12100F or AMD Ryzen 5 5500
2) Which graphics card is better
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1630 or AMD Radeon RX 6400
Thank you very much I look forward to your answers
i3-12100f, RX6400
Because i3 (and the mainboard) supports PCIE 4.0, so the rx6400 will have advantage
Ryzen 5 5500 has only pcie 3.0!
Also RX6400 seems to be on the level of gtx1650 or intel arc a380, so better than gtx 1630
Or pick the RX6500XT, maybe it's only 20-30 euro/dollar more
i would not recommend intel for the excessive price of motherboards,
in my country i3 12100f and ryzen 5 5500 are priced almost the same but for intel you have to pay a lot for even a basic motherboard like 80€ minimum for amd you can find a cheap b450 for like 50€ or even a320 for like 30€ and it would run anyway
Same as my country.
I'm using ryzen 3600 now and considering for an upgrade. But the price of changing to Intel cheapest and latest chip WITH the motherboard are high, it's better to just get the ryzen 5800x3d.
I don't even need to buy new motherboard because it is supported
Here in Canada, I can get an Intel mobo for the same price as an AMD mobo. :)
Move to a real country then
my apologize to your country then
i3 is a budget beast if you are tight from your money for cpu
But am4 motherboard is more cheap than LGA1700.
problem was on Mobo they more expensive than Cpu itself sometime
@@avyam7509 Depends on where you live. Here in Canada, prices for Intel and AMD mobos are very similar. :)
Im gonna build a pc soon and i dont know if i should choose the 12100f or the 5500, the 12100f costs 5800 php in my country and the 5500 costs 5400 php, while it would be nice because i could upgrade the 12100f into a 13th gen one the motherboards on lga1700 are kinda expensive, but on the other hand the only good upgrade to the 5500 would be the 5800x3d and the motherboards are cheaper too!, so should i buy a 5500 or a 12100f?
When it comes to VR games, which CPU is best?
is it better to buy the rx 6600-ryzen 5 5500 or rx 6600-intel i3 12100f combo?
i3 for pure gaming. 5500 if you have other things running in the background while you game. Also, depends on your region, coz some area have more expensive Intel while others have more expensive AMD parts.
rapaziada simples, sim o 12100f da mais FPS por ter um cache alto e o lga 1700 mais o problema e um, ele tem 4 núcleos e 8 threads eu indicaria vc pegar ele se não for fazer Live, usar Discord enquanto joga e etc pq por ter poucos threads vai super aquecer o Pc e pode travar ,mais já se vc só joga n usa o DC e nem faz live recomendo o 12100f caso contrário vai de R 5500 que aí não vai ter dor de cabeça e um ótimo processador 6 núcleos 12 threads.
in any way, nowadays 4 cores are just not enough. 6c is the minimum recommendation for common users.
Less ram & vram usage with Ryzen? Maybe due to higher core & thread counts?
slower bandwidth or i dunno, thats what i guessed since it has also lower fps
@@curie1420no, its because the ryzen has more cores plus it gets more fps in some games bruh…
1 percent loss graph on 4 core i3 is noticiable. 😅
I3 12100F seems like a steal for gaming, but only 4 cores. I wonder how it will do video editing? Now I have outdated Ryzen 7 2700X with 8 cores. I3 12100F just seems so good, but does it work with video editing? Is it better than my Ryzen 7 2700X?
You should buy Ryzen 5 5500, dont change your platform, It does not make sense. I changed my 2600x to 5500 and it really is something beautiful.
@@werwito6723 That makes sense. My motherboard supports Ryzen 5 5500.
Not well.... the Ryzen 5 5500 is better for video editing. It makes no sense for you to move to Intel anyway since you already have a socket AM4 motherboard. Just run a BIOS update and go with Zen 3. Upgrading to a Ryzen 5700x or 5800x for $250-300 would be a much, much smarter move than moving to a 12100f at $110 + an lga1700 board that's $120.
Look up the video TG did a few weeks ago of the i9-9900k against the i5-12400. Even though the i9-9900k is old, it still beat the 12400 in gaming. The Ryzen 5700x beats the 9900k in gaming by a few percent.
You really should be looking at the Ryzen 5 5600 at the least..... and the Ryzen 7 5700x if you can bankroll more. The 5600 is only slightly slower than the Core i5-12400, and the 5600x is even with the 12400. The Ryzen 5 5500 is cheaper of course, but it's a gimped Ryzen 5 5600g with less L3 cache and no iGPU. The 5600 runs circles around the 5500 and 5600g in gaming. However, the 2700x is still an 8-core CPU so you're not going to gain much in the video editing department by jumping to a modern 6-core.
The only other thing to bear in mind is the software you're using. Does that software take advantage of the H.264 encoder that come with Intel's iGPU?
@@m8x425 My motherboard has the latest update and it supports up to Ryzen 9 5950x. Video editing should support amd. It's Cyberlink PowerDirector 18.
@@Mike81111 if you can spare the money, the 5600 is much better value
5500 should be as poweful as i3 12100f if only it support PCIE 4.0
6/12 core gets beat by 4/8 core? Kinda crazy and shows intel makes better CPUs using 10nm vs ryzen 7nm
ryzen 5000 is getting old now, it's like comparing a 20series card with a 30 series card. the real test will be ryzen 7000 vs 13th gen
Due to long due IPC improvements.
Apologies but I'll have to write if anyone comes to same comment with misconception.
10nm did help alot, although 7nm of TSMC is not comparable to 10nm of Intel. Both measure "nm" with different scales. It's similar to "kilobyte". Old scientists used it to represent 1024 bytes but hard drive manufacturers represented 1000 bytes to take benefit from this loop hole.
Definitely it is confusing but it is what it is.
Only valid way to compare CPUs is comparing performance in applications you'll use like games, blender or using a non biased benchmark tool like cine bench.
That's not the whole picture.
The 5500 is a 5600G without the iGPU.
Only support PCIe 3 and has only 16 MB of cache while 5600(X) has 32
@@Spido68_the_spectator That's why nobody should buy the 5500, rather buy an i3
Crazy how a new gen beats an old gen
It took 3 gens for intel to beat ryzen 5th gen
and dont forget the price of motherboard on intel system
scary how much performance less L3 cost ! 5600 has 32MB, 5500 only 16MB
Well the 5500 is also a chip originally made for laptops so it's just generally not going to be as good. Their naming scheme is horrible with these.
@@GhostAcezIt was never ment to be a laptop chip it’s simply a 5600G with no igpu😂
@@Gabe_B-1 What I meant was its a lot closer to the laptop cpus than the rest of the 5000 series. The 5500 and 5600g are really bad compared to the 5600 and above. The 5500 doesn't have much more performance than the Ryzen 5 2600 from 2 generations before.
Where I live, 12100F around equivalent of $20 cheaper than 5500 lmao
Ryzen 5000 is pretty overpriced where I live
Amazing how little power Ryzen 5500 draws comparing it to i3 and considering it has 2 more cores to feed. Great job AMD
I want to upgrade to AMD Ryzen from my Intel i5 6500 and I find even mobo's for Ryzen better as value compared to what you get from Intel mobo's
What? They drew practically the same power sometimes the i3 even less in some games, lmao.. what are you speaking about?
Why i3 has an higher fps 🤔🤔
i believe ryzen 5 5500 is doing better than the pcie 4.0 ryzen 5 3600, the 5500 has better fps in some games against the 12100f, the ryzen 5 3600 that i saw in this channel had less fps than 12100f in any games
The R5 5500 has better IPC than R5 3600, however the cache memory limits the gaming performance in the Cezanne (16mb vs 32mb)
@@MHCP and the pcie gen 3 is really a letdown
i really wanted that 5500 but i think i might save money for 5600 or just going intel
Consider people with Radeon graphics can use SAM and the Ryzen 5500 pulls further ahead.
Resizable bar exists
@@Birdman._. thats sam
What's the deal with Death Stranding? Is it that optimized for threads: 43% usage AMD vs 93% usage Intel? At min 08:36
doo a test with the r5 5500 and 4x ram I want to see if it will work better because they say it works better about 10%
At this moment:
R5 5500 ≈ 90-100USD
i3 12100F ≈ 80-90USD
in my country r5 112 i3 125
12100f the beast
Intel 5 points amd 4 ggg great game guys
its smart that amd released a pcie 3.0 cpu alongside the 6500xt with x4 pcie lanes. excellent product synergy!
Cry more LOL they released R5 5600 and R7 5700 too.
@@chovekb because yes, most people who buy a 6500xt will definitely buy a 5700x with it.
there's 0 use for the 5500.
@@vermin1816 You obviously don't know what that 6 cores R5 5500 can do with it's Cezanne controller able to run 4400+ ram in 1:1 EZ on almost any cheap b520+ mboard.
Noob xD
@@chovekb nah, its useless.
@@vermin1816 Yeah..... but the 5600g and 5500 are ported from AMD's laptop segment. Less cache, etc. The only reason AMD released the 5500 is because they had too many defective 5600g CPU's lying around.
core closed ?
What about Ryzen 5500 with RTX 3070?
5600x
мне кто-то обьяснит почему на тестах с разен 5 5500 постоянно используется меньше оперативной памяти чем у процессора от интел , в некотрых играх разница в 1-1.6 гигабайта?
Потому что у Ryzen больше ядер и потока. Из за то он мало берёт оперативную память..
Um ótimo processador em custo/benefício. Postei o vídeo com os testes de temperatura e ruído que obtive utilizando um Water Cooler Pcyes 120mm com bom custo/benefício no Gabinete Macube 310. Parabéns pelo vídeo! 👋👋👋
i think you used the boost do the test
4000 series from AMD can't beat entry level i3 alder lake. Even the Midrange 5000 series can't beat it despite having lower nanometer and high core count.
it's like comparing 20series gpu with 30series... ryzen 5000 was released to compete against 10th gen... ryzen 7000 will compare against 13th gen which will be fair
Ryzen 5000 series is old now.
@@ztz8787 yes my friend
Because of reduced cache (half of 5600(X) ) and PCIe 3.
@@ztz8787 No. Ryzen 5000 was to beat outright 10th gen in every aspect, not just compete.
Ryzen 3000 and 4000 were those to compete with Intel.
It's not like 20 series vs 30 series. The 5500 is lackluster Zen 3 (half the cache and PCIe 3)
Aa yes, perfect video! 👌🏻
Ok o 12100 se equipara ao 5500 e custa menos, mas no Brasil a diferença é pequena e a placa mãe de 13 geração Intel é muito cara, então muitas vz o kit 5500 sai mais barato. Sem contar q AM4 suporta centenas de cpus e a Intel muda a compatibilidade cada 2 gerações, montei varias plataformas Intel e Amd nos últimos anos, e mesmo a Intel tendo melhorado muito agora ainda prefiro a Amd, porque tenho muito mais liberdade e opções de Up.
Mais o bom da intel é que vc pode trocar o i3 12100F por um i5 13400F de 10/16 no final do ano por 1300 avista
Sim, mas em questão a futuro upgrade, vc pode sair de um 12100 e ir para um 13400 de 6+4C/16T, e como AM4 não irá ter mais continuidade as opções são de ir para o 5600X que com certeza perderá em desempenho e MT do 13400.
>>> "...no Brasil a diferença é pequena e a placa mãe de 13 geração Intel é muito cara, então muitas vz o kit 5500 sai mais barato".
Quando o i3-12100F foi lançado isso era verdade - o kit CPU+Mobo do Ryzen 5500 saia mais barato.
Mas agora no segundo semestre de 2022 a situação inverteu (preços de 01/09):
Ryzen 5500 - 870,00
Gigabyte B450M DS3H V2 - 580,00 (MSI A520M-A - 533,00)
Total: 1.450,00 (ou 1.403,00).
I3-12100F - 690,00
Asus Prime H610M-A - 690,00 (Gigabyte H610M S2H - 600,00).
Total: 1.380,00 (ou 1.320,00)
Vantagens do kit Intel - além de um pouco mais barato a placa mãe PCI 4.0 poderá suportar melhor os novos lançamentos em VGA, e o soquete LGA 1700 poderá usar CPU i3, 15 da 13ª geração (a ser lançada em Setembro).
E no dia 30 de agosto a AMD ao anunciar o AM5, "matou" o AM4 - que durou muito ~ 5 anos. 😉
@@piccolochave8834 o i5 13400 vai ter 10/16 e ate 37MB de cache 17MB no L2 e 20MB no L3
@@Sokol10 Mas aí tem outra questão pra analisar, eu até posso ter essa opção de um futuro upgrade com a décima terceira geração comprando o i3, mas a realidade de muitos que compram esses cpus é diferente, muita gente procura alguma coisa razoável e que dure o máximo de tempo possível, e um 4/8 não me da muita segurança hoje em dia não, acho que nesse caso o 5500 sendo um 6/12 pode acabar tendo uma vida mais longa dando mais estabilidade em futuros jogos, e uma B450 da margem pra muitos upgrades bem interessantes também, não acho que vale a pena contar com uma coisa que nem foi lançada ainda, como o upgrade pra 13 gen, fora esse histórico ridículo da intel em trocar de socket a cada 2 gerações, acho que ela não merece mais o meu dinheiro, e a 11 gen foi uma piada, quem me garante que a 13 não vai seguir o mesmo caminho? E sinceramente, se você comprar uma vga pcie x16, não vai fazer diferença a geração 3.0 da 4.0, a pessoa que compra um cpu de entrada desses não passa das gerações xx60 ou x600 das vgas mais recentes, nem uma 3080 vai ter alguma diferença fora da margem de erro nessa questão das gerações de pci express, não faz sentido pensar nisso, só vai fazer diferença pra algumas placas de barramento x4-x8, e essas é melhor nem comprar, tem coisa melhor pelo mesmo preço no mercado.
Se a realidade da pessoa não permite que ela compre um processador de entrada com o upgrade de uma coisa que nem foi lançada em mente o 12100 não vale a pena na minha visão, chega de quad core.
E a AMD não "matou" o socket AM4 anunciando o AM5 não amigo, provavelmente o AM4 vai ser o melhor cxb por muito tempo ainda, ou você acha que vai ser barato montar um kit com DDR5? Não é porque saiu uma geração nova que obrigatoriamente todo mundo precise mudar pra ela, relaxa pô. 😉
Please test game with low graphics settings so we can get a better idea of CPU
They both are basically the same CPU lmao
I think i will go amd because i will have an amd gpu and i want am4
PUBG at 5-5500 was recorded at 24fps?
Что первый га.но, что второй.3080 загрузить не могут 50-70% а уже на подходе новые видухи, хз что с этими процами делать,хлам.
Так разрешение full hd и настройки не ультра в играх
Для 4к ультра норм будет
чел, даже 7700 может загрузить 3080 в 2к на ультрах
Мой 7400 всё ташит
Потому что бюджетный сегмент - мёртв
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Wtf
got it for like 68 dollar + 5 dollars shipping = 73 dollars steal deal i guess
Go for whichever one you find cheaper
Pretty much.
why intel is consuming more ram in some tests ( also losing )?
2cpu นี้ถ้าเทียบสเปก ในบรรดาเกมที่ต้องใช้กราฟฟิกสูงสุด ก็คือcyberpunk สรุป i3 12100f very good
in my country i3 12100F is under 100$ and ryzen 5 5600 is 150$ soo for me i3 wins
how tf the ryzen 5 is 95$ in my country?
Never thought to say this : i3 is da shit!
El precio de la Motherboard de Intel hace ganador al Ryzen.
Nice bottleneck 😂
so there isn't bottleneck for this Video ???
i3 pairs better with GPU and R5 performs better in cpu prioritized games . Also R5 ensures more stable Fps and cheaper MB . So I won’t suggest buying i3 . If you have budget then go for i5
@Captain_Morgan i3 is worse on CPU intensive games like esports and also for live streaming.
@Captain_Morgan most eSports are taking benefits of extra cores especially on a team fight. Trust me, I am a competitive player.
I3 12100f is cheaper sure
For sure 5500 becaus Motherboard are cheaper
Not here in Canada. :)
Valorant/CSGO could be included in the benchmark because these games are heavy cpu usage
r5 will destroy i3 for sure...
5 5500 is good option if you already on am4 platform and (or) you broke and need cheap cpu for work projects (more cores = more perfomance) Here 12100f beat him because alot of games actually uses from 1 to 4 cores and here newgen intel beats amd ahh. But in games that uses all 6 cores Amd equal or lil bit better doing his job. So if you have am4 mobo 5500 is your chose, but if you try to build pc from zero intel will save your pocket.
Is the ryzen 5 5000 good with rx 6600xt??
Not to mention you can overclock the 5500 without a $300-$400 motherboard.
U can always turbo boost i3 at 4.5ghz with even a h610
What wouls i choose if i pair it with 1660s...
id take am4, its more upgrade friendly
You Choose i3 + H610 Don't You
Intel > AMD
PD. 5500 only support PCIE up to 3.0, imagine pair that shit with a rx 6400 or rx 6500 xt
Exact same gameplay in PUBG?
It's not real, even crushing objectives are same.