WARNING: AT 2:29 - 4:36 CONTAINS RAPID FLASHING LIGHTS. CONSIDER THIS AS A EPILEPSY WARNING!! This is the end of part 1rd of Turnabout Stupidity. Enjoy.
If Franziska were floridian I can already see the news "Florida woman, former prosecutor, arrested after assaulting fellow prosecutor in mid-trial because of losing an argument about markers being pens"
@@megatronyeets Because we live in a foolishly foolish country of foolishly foolish fools who have foolishly foolish fights about foolishly foolish things
Edgeworth would've just read the definition for ink: "a colored fluid used for writing, drawing, printing, or duplicating." Technically, paint can be said to be some kind of ink.
Thought he was gonna point out where it said "typically" which implies there are instances in which pens do not need any kind of metal or nylon part. God bless you and Jesus loves you ♥
“Franziska would be arrested for the assault on Miles Edgeworth” AND YET NOT THE COUNTLESS TIMES SHE ASSAULTED PHOENIX AND THE JUDGE IN JUSTICE FOR ALL?!?
@@Oyakinya-Izuki 1. I don't think many people have that much patience and 2. Permanent pretty much means what is say and plastic is more likely to rip or be discarded soo that's a thing
This was story, it had a beginning, rising point, climatic point, and an end. With characters and a plot Update: Where tf did all these likes come from???
@@andino32 I agree I noticed she never whips Edgeworth (I think once maybe in the whole franchise)in the game. She usually whips Phoenix on Edgeworth and Pearls’ behalf lol.
@@febentesfaye612 I think she whips edgeworth quite a bit during the First day of the last case in Trials and Tribulations, and maybe during AA:Investigations? I don't remember exactly
things to take from this: All Markers are Pens but Pens are not markers. Marker is litterally a Pen with a Felt tip. They're similar but the fact they're felt tipped means they're not pens. The english language is a joke or any combination of that above
I swear so many of these cases of something being something is literally a square being a rectangle, but a rectangle not being a square. Essentially they end with a answer stating that they are the same, but only one way which literally question the definition of being the same. Boom new debate topic: What counts as being the same?
As an artist, this pained me on a deep, spiritual level :') Especially saying pens don't bleed through paper, and markers don't smear. I don't know how many times a PEN has bled through my paper, and how I've had pieces ruined by a MARKER smearing... Markers are big, soft, colorful pens.
@@rockingtundra2830 ink - a colored usually liquid material for writing and printing This is a different dictionary from the one I used in my comment though, so I'll also check the definition of pen in the new dictionary as well. pen - an implement for writing or drawing with ink or a similar fluid
She took a bullet herself. For Nick actually, in “Farewell, My Turnabout” getting the miracle to him at the last possible moment before Adrian Andrews could be convicted for murder
Felt tip pens vs felt tip markers, erasable pens vs erasable markers, brush pens vs brush tip markers, paint pens vs paint markers, neon gel pens vs highlighter markers... Verdict: pens and markers are just siblings who like to copy each other in everything.
Everytime i watched this.... Im starting to have insecurities Before i thought it was a dumb argument, now im even questioning why my grades going down just because i didn't attend the field trip
Markers and pens both have the material that they stroke out to create a line or drawing. They both are in enlongated forms that hold what they use in the same shape except smaller. And show the same abilities. They are just different types. Edit: sub catagory not really types
The fact that i was so invested I was shouting at my phone about how markers are pens and physically squealed in happiness when miles showed up on Maya’s behalf. My two faves w the common sense.
Although the pen's definition is a lot more specific even if contained in the definition of "marker". So even if you could say "pens are markers" You can't actually say "markers are pens" as there are many situations where the definition of a marker doesn't apply to a pen. It's like real numbers and integers, all countable integers (2, 5, 0, -6) are real numbers but there are many cases of real numbers not being countable numbers (pi, e, literally any number with any decimal or fraction) Pens are markers, but markers are not necessarily pens
you have it backwards though. The definition of a marker states that a marker is a certain kind of pen. that means that all markers are pens but doesn't mean that all pens are markers
A Pen is just a mechanized recreation of the ink and feather w/ a pencil-like shape. The marker has much the same creation principle of a Pen, just upscaled and w/ different possibly different materials. Given, an axe and halberd are considered different enough to be different weapon so maybe a marker isn't a Pen because of the shape difference and material difference on top of that. However, if based simply off of the purpose (highlighting/underlining, creating unremovable text) and design (marking fluid is spread into the tip's spreading device and is then spread when in contact w/ another surface), a marker can be a pen.
Objection! 2:02 freeze frame. The word is typically, meaning there are exceptions meaning it does indeed NOT have to have metal, ball, or even nylon tip. Therefor, it is marked by that definition is indeed a pen.
Ahem, "marker pen"
*no*
foolishness.
pen pen
Pen marker
I thought I was the only one who said it like that
Edgeworth is that one teammate that is afk for 90% of the game but when he's back he carries the team through a comeback and wins
And then gets instakilled because he spent all his upgrade materials on attack and not defense
@@tiramisu7544 Sounds like me but i didn't carry my teammates at all
Lol
bonus points if they get MVP
Sound's like me
My man Edgeworth really pulled an 'updated autopsy report' using the DICTIONARY, what a madlad
Actually, there's something you conviniently missed...
@@A_Weird_Angel !
me realizing why she isnt in the later ones... thats so dang sad
@@A_Weird_Angel what did we miss
@@halalcomrade34 everything, like usual
I love that this implies phoenix rang up everybody and just said "hey let's meet in the courtroom and settle this debate. bring the jury"
If Franziska were floridian I can already see the news
"Florida woman, former prosecutor, arrested after assaulting fellow prosecutor in mid-trial because of losing an argument about markers being pens"
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
Why does this sound like an actual headline?
I think it would be shortened, namely taking out the “former prosecutor” bit and re arranging some diction to shorten it
Still funny tho
@@megatronyeets Because we live in a foolishly foolish country of foolishly foolish fools who have foolishly foolish fights about foolishly foolish things
Sounds like something you would find on the onion news RUclips channel
Hey guys, Franziska didn’t kill Edgeworth. She beat the crap out of him
AND WAIT DIDNt SHE ASSAULT PHOENIX????
@@prestonsweekends1030
I believe pearl did too
ten year old beatings
@@Banana_Judge I can’t believe that my man Phoenix Wright got knocked out because of 3 bitch slaps from a 10 year old
@@ryanm4166
It was 7
I laugh everytime von Karma slams the table.
It's like she hit it once, paused, then decides that it wasn't enough, so she slams it twice more
2 rare things
A. I'm the first commenter
B. I made it 200 likes.
3 rare things
A. I'm in the present of this very moment
B. I'm your first like
C. I'm your second comment.
💪🏿🗿
🦵🏿
@@TheSpacePlaceYT @Juju
what does either of your messages have to do with the original comment..?
@@floweyseed Not everything has to be relevant it was kind of supposed to be a joke...
"We're all gonna miss you Milles..."
"I'm not dead"
"You were a great prosecutor..."
edgeworth: markers are pens
franziska: *your free trial of living has ended*
I surprised nobody pointed out how it said typically.
@@someonehungarian9002 surprised**
@@evitallewellyn4517 "hey, look at me, i just corrected somebody's comment! get on your knees and praise me!"
@@dust495 just because someone corrects a comment, doesn’t mean they’re rude :/
@@thegreenmxm yeah, my bad. i've been on reddit for too long.
marker = soft tip
Pen = hard tip
Paint brush = hairy tip
What about marker pens
@@Some_L0s3r Easy, that's a crossbreed.
@@VakovoSheggorri welp proved me wrong
What about just the tip? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Ew, hairy tip.
"Do not say foolish for 5 minutes or draw 25"
von Karma:*sweating nervously*
@Rebekah Leonard *draws whip
Dude, pulling out the definition of "marker" like that was the most genuine AA move I have ever seen and I'm impressed by your storytelling my friend.
Phoenix Wright 7 is looking awfully dark.
Ikr? They didn’t have to go so deep and political..
@@wyatt_thepals4882 it's a lawyer simulator, what do you expect?!
@@thescarytransperson I mean, true, but they didn’t have to make it this dark, like c’mon-
got so invested in this that i gasped out loud when they read the dictionary definition for a marker
ME TOO! Then I paused the video and laughed so hard
DUDE ME TOO
I screamed WHAT
Same
i hate how Maya didnt deny that paint and spray paint werent pens since she literally just said "uses ink"
Edgeworth would've just read the definition for ink:
"a colored fluid used for writing, drawing, printing, or duplicating."
Technically, paint can be said to be some kind of ink.
i thought for a sec there he was going to say
“That dictionary definition…
*IS OUTDATED, YOUR HONOR!!”*
And that would have killed me, for real
Thought he was gonna point out where it said "typically" which implies there are instances in which pens do not need any kind of metal or nylon part. God bless you and Jesus loves you ♥
“Franziska would be arrested for the assault on Miles Edgeworth”
AND YET NOT THE COUNTLESS TIMES SHE ASSAULTED PHOENIX AND THE JUDGE IN JUSTICE FOR ALL?!?
I guess it's time that we inform everyone that the police are idiots in this world.
Hello
Ah, well, you see,
The judge and Phoenix aren’t rich, so the judicial system doesn’t care.
maybe they enjoyed it?
@@leonro no
i saw the title and just thought "yeah i guess they're dummy thicc pens"
But like
*D u m m y T h i c c p e n s*
omg why
@@filthypeasant6429 why not
But why tho
@@scribbler_crowe *I love it*
Maya: "I told you Nick!"
Phoenix: *s h u t u p*
"...and both are not erasable."
Me, who had erasable pens: *freaking lol*
The ink does kind of erases over time, it's not really "permanent", specifically when you write on plastic and wait for some years
i have frixion pens lol
@@Oyakinya-Izuki 1. I don't think many people have that much patience and 2. Permanent pretty much means what is say and plastic is more likely to rip or be discarded soo that's a thing
This was story, it had a beginning, rising point, climatic point, and an end. With characters and a plot
Update: Where tf did all these likes come from???
ikr
Best movie ever
but was it written in...pen?
Agreed
@@idkwhattoputinmyname8815 it was written in marker
I can see the news articles already: Famous prosecutor arrested after whipping a man over foolishly foolish reasons.
Imma ruin your 199 likes hehe
@@maritesdeguzman1374 we will see about that
I will still ruin it if i remove my like
@@PanicTooMuch now its 198 hah
HAHAHAHA
The real question is: Why was Edgeworth the only victim in this case?
There were a few more defending markers are pens.
“what kind of foolish question is that?”
I know righ-
“it's obvious that they're not.”
WAIFU NO
This is was so perfectly in character tooo.
but I think Von Karma wouldve still said "Miles Edgeworth" while whipping Phoenix instead
@@andino32 I agree I noticed she never whips Edgeworth (I think once maybe in the whole franchise)in the game. She usually whips Phoenix on Edgeworth and Pearls’ behalf lol.
@@febentesfaye612 lol true
@@febentesfaye612 I think she whips edgeworth quite a bit during the First day of the last case in Trials and Tribulations, and maybe during AA:Investigations? I don't remember exactly
things to take from this:
All Markers are Pens but Pens are not markers.
Marker is litterally a Pen with a Felt tip. They're similar but the fact they're felt tipped means they're not pens.
The english language is a joke
or any combination of that above
But there's felt tipped pens 👀
Markers in Disguise, don't fall for their trickery
@@theenduriangamer5509 Lmao I fell for it hook line and sinker
The real question is, what is a pen
I swear so many of these cases of something being something is literally
a square being a rectangle, but a rectangle not being a square.
Essentially they end with a answer stating that they are the same, but only one way which literally question the definition of being the same.
Boom new debate topic: What counts as being the same?
As an artist, this pained me on a deep, spiritual level :')
Especially saying pens don't bleed through paper, and markers don't smear. I don't know how many times a PEN has bled through my paper, and how I've had pieces ruined by a MARKER smearing... Markers are big, soft, colorful pens.
Pen + marker = Parker-
So if you fuse a pen and a marker you get spiderman?
Shit went from 0 to 100 real fast
Uuuuh no I think she was adding 1 every time she said foolish or slammed her fist
@@waldoman7 yeah so real fast
@@datechboi true she does have good acceleration
"THE OTHER DEFINITION!"
Oh my god I nearly lost it, XD
5:15
Franziska: SILENCE!!
Simon Blackquill: HEY, THAT’S MY LINE!
The animation of Von Karma pounding her fist and looking so pained is my favorite thing.
Imagine going to jail for some years because you debated about markers being pens
LOL
That sounds really hilarous
she deserves it for thinking they aren't lol
Imagine murdering someone because he got you a penalty
I see that maya is going for the insanity defense
Why are you trapped in the backrooms
Why are you trapped in the backrooms
Why are you trapped in the backrooms
Why are you trapped in the backrooms
@EDGAR NICOLAS BARRERA PINILLA his pfp is a pic of the backrooms
My dictionary says this:
pen - an instrument for writing or drawing with ink
So yes, marker is a pen. And so is spray paint.
HOLD IT!
So paint is ink?
@@rockingtundra2830 ink - a colored usually liquid material for writing and printing
This is a different dictionary from the one I used in my comment though, so I'll also check the definition of pen in the new dictionary as well.
pen - an implement for writing or drawing with ink or a similar fluid
... did you just add DRAMA to this series!?
I am HERE for it!
So, calligraphy pens don't exist?
@@arrogen2831 fountain what?
fountain *what?*
@@arrogen2831
Wtf are fountain pens
@@arrogen2831 say what now?
dip pens
"Worse than having a **bullet buried in your arm** "
Hey Franzi,you sure you want to bring up the case that got your own father in jail?
She took a bullet herself. For Nick actually, in “Farewell, My Turnabout” getting the miracle to him at the last possible moment before Adrian Andrews could be convicted for murder
pls dont stop making these THIS IS SO FUNNY
0:28 Hold it! Erasable Pens!
*What If we used one hundred percent of the brain?*
"A paintbrush is a pen!"
A spray paint is a pen
Anything is a fucking pen!!
Anything which leaves a mark on stuff is a pen
A paint brush could be considered a type of Dip Pen.
franziska: your free trial of living has ended
Damn of all things for Franziska to actually get in trouble for
Losing to an argument about markers
5:07 PAYNE BEAT MIA!? HOW THE HELL!?
No. Mia's long gone from this world now
Wow. This went from funny to surprisingly dark when I came back from cleaning the dishes
When you don’t get arrested for assaulting an attorney but you get convicted in years for assaulting a prosecutor
What a rage quit!
i thought you said quill
@@thescarytransperson Fitting.
I’ve never even played these games, but this is my favorite meme format at the moment
This felt like a whole anime sega/ character sega all drawn into one but its so perfect
3:00
At this point I thought Edgeworth was going to say "That dictionary is *outdated* , Your Honor"
I can't believe I missed my opportunity to do that
I mean he has a point
Pun intended? 😂
I guess he has a “point” ?
thanks for the disclaimer, finally I know which videos i can watch for the best seizures. 10/10 would foam from the mouth again.
6:09
On the left
YOU JUST GOT PAYNE'D
Felt tip pens vs felt tip markers, erasable pens vs erasable markers, brush pens vs brush tip markers, paint pens vs paint markers, neon gel pens vs highlighter markers...
Verdict: pens and markers are just siblings who like to copy each other in everything.
Or markers are pens that like to copy what the rest of the pen gang is doing but also do a little bit extra sometimes
man. that rave party from 4:27 to 4:36 was so good i had a seizure
I swear, these ace attourney courtroom videos makes me learn more than i do in school.
That was actually good. I didn't know videos like this existed.
Paint is its own writing material
There's Ink, "lead", and paint.
leave paint out of this.
100th like
@@vivimannequin Wow, for that heres 100 coffee beans *gives a bag of coffee beans*
What about Lead Paint?
@@Axius27 ...We do not speak of the forbidden writing fluid....
But, pencils use graphite
This is too underrated, :/
,
I come here, now the video is popular, i guess the coments work
You actually think these videos through, and I like that. Good job!
I just love the facial expressions because we all know we would make them too
This was like a rollercoaster so many emotions at first you think markers are pens, and then they aren't- AND THEN THEY ARE
Bro this is awesome! This is something id do. You totally deserve waaay more likes!
I love how this ENTIRE conversation is COMPLETELY POINTLESS 🤣
This went in all kinds of directions i didn't expect XD
Everytime i watched this.... Im starting to have insecurities
Before i thought it was a dumb argument, now im even questioning why my grades going down just because i didn't attend the field trip
Markers and pens both have the material that they stroke out to create a line or drawing. They both are in enlongated forms that hold what they use in the same shape except smaller. And show the same abilities. They are just different types.
Edit: sub catagory not really types
"paint isn't a pen"
paint markers: am I a joke to you?
I got lowkey excited during the court, nice video
I never thought I could be so interested in seeing a trail on whether a marker is a pen, or a pen is a marker. I-
The last part is cannon fite me
THIS WAS SO WELL MADE OMG
my brain stopped watching this
thanks, much appreciated
Edgeworth providing this bamboozlement of a statement as "read the definition of 'marker'" is almost as crazy as providing an updated autopsy report!
This video learned me a lot about pens. Thank you!
this was a riveting piece of story telling
von karma's favorite words: foolish foolishly foolerly and everything that have "fool" in it
This was HILARIOUS
I love this video so much! Why doesn't this guy have more subs.
I'm actually inspired by this.
:)
The fact that i was so invested I was shouting at my phone about how markers are pens and physically squealed in happiness when miles showed up on Maya’s behalf. My two faves w the common sense.
Poor edgeworth having ptsd (4:07)
This is like:
Does “hotdog” can be considered a “sandwich”?
if that small rage of dogs is cooked in bread, then yes
@@valentds I don't understand but I have to agree with you 🖐😏
That was a lot deeper than I thought it would be
Ok im loving these, plus a sub
that earthquake had trauma sprinkled in it
This went from hilarious to eerily sad
Man, this is really underrated.
“Now you’ve gone from mad to insane!” Fucking killed me
To end thus foolishness
My pen bleeded thru paper like a marker-
Me: Well in my opinio-
Twitter: 0:33
The miracle never happen
Maybe it was never supposed to
Because a miracle is something that dosent exist
@@manta5432 like you
I love the way that edgeworth reacts to the blackout thing
this was one hell of a story
Although the pen's definition is a lot more specific even if contained in the definition of "marker".
So even if you could say "pens are markers" You can't actually say "markers are pens" as there are many situations where the definition of a marker doesn't apply to a pen.
It's like real numbers and integers, all countable integers (2, 5, 0, -6) are real numbers but there are many cases of real numbers not being countable numbers (pi, e, literally any number with any decimal or fraction)
Pens are markers, but markers are not necessarily pens
you have it backwards though. The definition of a marker states that a marker is a certain kind of pen. that means that all markers are pens but doesn't mean that all pens are markers
@@oblivi8games808 sorry got it backwards
All thumbs are fingers but not all fingers are thumbs.
But this also means that there exists no markers that is not a pen, by contraposition
@@JonathanMandrake no it doesnt, there are two conditions here
all markers are pens,
not all pens are markers
you have to account for both
A Pen is just a mechanized recreation of the ink and feather w/ a pencil-like shape. The marker has much the same creation principle of a Pen, just upscaled and w/ different possibly different materials. Given, an axe and halberd are considered different enough to be different weapon so maybe a marker isn't a Pen because of the shape difference and material difference on top of that. However, if based simply off of the purpose (highlighting/underlining, creating unremovable text) and design (marking fluid is spread into the tip's spreading device and is then spread when in contact w/ another surface), a marker can be a pen.
Judge looks fed up by how he’s saying “What have you brought to us now?”
Im always learning something new from these
Objection! 2:02 freeze frame. The word is typically, meaning there are exceptions meaning it does indeed NOT have to have metal, ball, or even nylon tip.
Therefor, it is marked by that definition is indeed a pen.
So, no one's gonna comment on how "Phoenix" is misspelled?
Can 6ou give me a timestamp
@@anagames4601 5:55
6:14
@@Petrovich-sh7pi thx
@@nyx211 thx
Calligraphy, stippling, hatching, shading, invisible ink, paint pen, cipher pen, stamp/unprintable pen…and many many more pens
When Edgworth died:
Update the autopsy report, he’ll be fine
Absolute legend, still hearting comments 4 months later