Being KAMBUA | A Father's Heart can Hurt and Heal (2) O’Neal, Willis, & Omari
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- It is often said that men don’t hurt, and when they do, they don’t (shouldn’t) cry. But Father’s deeply grieve the loss of their children whether through miscarriage, still birth, infant loss, or whatever circumstances. These three gentlemen bravely lay themselves bare- letting us into their pain and struggle in order to be better understood, and also to tell other men, that it is OK not to be ok.
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The part when Willis said when you loose even loosing a parking space hits you hard...took me back to when Kambua said sometimes we joins dots that are not to be joint and this just adds onto the pain.
Exactly…pain can make you see things from a skewed angle
I love what Willis has said that he mended a relationship with God. This is very important.
Thank you Kambua for giving these men this platform to share their journeys. Thank you Willis, Omari and O'Neal for sharing and letting loss dads know their feelings are valid and it is okay to grieve.
Thanks Kambua for creating a safe space where men can be vulnerable. These are the conversations we need. Hugs to all going through a loss.
Moment of silence to our departed angels.
You're young, don't worry you'll have another child. He's in heaven!!! That's the kind of crap I got. I wanted my baby boy.....and then my 2nd born was special and was sickly and that's a story for another day. We need to be super sensitive when you're around a mourning couple. Be silent and listen to them if they want to talk. I'm glad the men are vulnerable and they mourn as well! Good job kambua for bringing the dudes in this. I wish my hubby was still alive to see this....
I was told the same words, had traveled back to Kenya to get support during that difficult time! Weuh 😢 I booked a ✈️ back coz every day I was hurt more by words, I guess they didn't know how to handle me
Men mourn in silence,they get hurt too n mostly no one understands
Oh hugs mama 🫂💕
People need to be sensitive when talking to a griefing mom how do you say you are young you will get another baby? Yet you know you cant replace the lost soul? I have been told so too by many peope others come to my Dm whenever i have those memories and post the kid...leaving some funny messages and comments...
Your story is exactly as mine, weee to date you will never see me seated with older women, can't attend baby showers in short still traumatized
Sorry to all who have gone through the heartache of child loss,Willis is well spoken and animated,I saw a side of him that is different from who he was at ten over 10. Refreshing to hear the depths of men's feelings, more strength 🎉
Also for those who can't call or text,just send a card,you can write to and from and let the cards speak for you.Going completely silent seems a bit harsh and lack of etiquette imo
I agree with you on complete silence. It hurts when coming from someone you care about.
Thank you Kambua..I had to spend my afternoon listening to this..After loosing my parent i felt that no one understands me..and i even separated my self..I am still healing and learning to accept that they are no longer with us..and mourning its not linear
This show is so emotional,pure ,deep ,relational and real Kambua, thank you for this, ❤🙏
Thank you so much for being here 🦋
God knew we needed these conversations and He sent Kambua.Good to see Willis and the other guys.We definitely need more men come next year Kambua.Sending so much love and prayers to anyone going through any of this.Merry Christmas
I just lost my Son 3 months ago & this Christmas season triggers it all. It's the first Christmas without him... It's too much grief.. It's too much for me/us as a family 😭😭😭😭😭
Pole
Sorry for the loss
Hugs 🫂 Am so sorry.
May the Lord give you peace.
Sending you love, hugs and prayers during this time, May He fill you with His Love forever
Pole sana 😢
Comfort from the Lord.
Hey Kambua this conversation...I just gathered courage to talk with my spouse how I felt unsupported when we miscarriaged..and it's only now that I learn he was also pained and also needed help mentally....thank you
....we need more men maybe you can also share your husband's perspective throughout your journey
This is such a powerful conversation. Men need to be given such platforms more, to pour out and heal. It is so refreshing to see this. Also Willis is such an incredible communicator, not to say that others aren't, but he stands out.
Holidays trigger or remind us of our loved ones in a really big way. Thanks Kambua for creating this space. I have teared up, reflecting on how we easily by pass the man when a couple loses a child. It's like the only valid grief is the mother's 😢😢😢. Please forgive us, we know better now and we'll do better as fellow humans.
Omari is so profound yaani how you can blame your partner weuh.....thank you guys for your vulnerability and openness, never looking at grief the same
I embrace my son’s memory. Christmas season is the hardest for any grieving parent.
Hugs Raburu. You really needed this safe space to let it all out. I wish you total healing.
This! This was way way profound. Thank you gentlemen for being candid and vulnerable. Thank you Kambua for handling such a heavy and important topic so gracefully. Thank you Jesus for allowing this
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I love to hear men pour their hearts out and having good conversations thanks kambua we hope for more of this
Men can never be strong to anyone. Mr. Omari. Truth
I have a COVID Baby and people I knew and close passed on I myself sensed I had COVID at some point coz I lost sense of smell and couldnt beleive my baby getting it and the last pregnancy before her I had miscarriaged at 3 months and wuuueeh I almost lost it.. BUT GOD.. HE IS INDEED A GOOD GOOD FATHER🙏 That's all i can say😢
Pole. Similar story I got a baby (miracle baby ) in 2021 and lost my mum same year. Yaani I can never wish that on anyone. Moving from joy to deep sorrow
@@faithmwende2369Pole pia. A day at a time we are here today. There's raising and rising up in Christ 🙏
Thank you for creating this safe space for pouring out our emotions and learning from other people. Every time I feel I don't have strength to keep me going I come here and listen to these stories
My friend committed suicide a week after a miscarriage.i ask myself what I could have done better.Thank you for this conversation.
Wah pole.sana
Oh this breaks my heart. I’m so sorry ❤️🩹
Oh death 😭😭😭 it is a mystery and the pain is just a love that we have for the person and we want to express ..... That what grief is .
I lost my sister and my niece 10month apart 😭😭😭😭 oh grief oh grief is painful ....
God is still God and out of this pain God has brought out something in me that is a mystery and few are celebrating yet they have no idea the process of my becoming.....
May God continue to comfort everyone who has lost a loved one and to this great men , thank you for sharing.
At the end there should have just been an altar call to receive or rededicate salvation to Christ...this is powerful
Oh my goodness, coming from men's perspective this is deep... More grace to you❤❤
I relate so much with O'Neil wish could hear his story more .... Encouraging to know that its normal to blame your spouse ..i did that too in my grief .
Thankyou so much Kambua, this conversations mean more than you can ever imagine. 🙌🙌God is indeed great...he loves us. Thankyou ❤
I have been waiting for this episode all week.
May God continually give ya'll strength, I am sooo glad this forum happened. Kambua, you are a gem.
God bless you K!
And these gentlemen, aaaah🎉 chukueni maua yenu for being vulnerable to speak about such heavy matters of the heart💐💐💐
This is so profound. Listening to how men mourn for their babies.
Thank you for having these men share their experiences
This is therapy for many. Kudos Kambua.
Oooh lord i have cried all through this.Grief!! Pushes us to blame ,hate and loose faith in Him .
This is deep,I love what you're doing Kambua...thanks 🙏❤️ God bless you 🙏 it's helping me heal,I gotta rewatch it with my hubby again
I loved loved loved these two episodes. My goodness, so much to learn from the men's stories on how affected they actually get and should not be asked to be strong for anyone, not even their own wives. And then there is how we say all the wrong things because we feel we must say something when people are grieving...lessons learned.
I lost my marriage last yr april then two months later i lost my infant son ...its not easy am still struggling with grief
Thanks kambua for bringing this men to share their stories. Please bring more men.
Weuh the depth of Willis saying "He is the same God"...... Deep waters
True
What can we say. This makes me see men differently and also understanding more how to be there for people grieving.
Thanks kambua ❤
I thank God for this session 🙏 glory to God who has healed this hurt souls...cause only Him understand why all this pain & suffering... O'Neal,Omar , Willis amazing hearing you speak out... crying isn't a weakness bt a way if expression
This was so humbling, thank you all....Truly God is the same yesterday,today, and forever.
🎉🎉🎉 to all the Men who are battling something and to all of us
Lots of hugs gentlemen. Thank you for being vulnerable.❤
Losing a child is just different. 😢😢😢
These conversations are so whole on so many levels. Thank you gentlemen and Kambua.
Oneal.. I have cried fot you.
So deep and inspiring.. thank you everyone seated there and God bless you richly.
Hugs dear....together in this but through God's grace, we shall overcome.
I am terribly sorry guys for your loss. I can only imagine how difficult and heart aching it must be to lose a child.
What I also wanted to note is that we scapegoat God for the sin and the death and the pain, calamity, corruption, loss and lack we see in the world. We have blamed God for the death we see around us instead of blaming the sin/iniquity/missing the mark/not partaking of eternal life that entered this world through Adam’s sin.
The wages of sin is death. Mankind concluded that God pays us with death because of our sin. Sin is the one that brings death in the world.
Paul makes a clear statement that the wages of sin is death
”For the wages which sin pays is death, but the [bountiful] free GIFT of God is eternal life through (in union with) Jesus Christ our Lord.“
Romans 6:23
By one man sin entered Therefore, as sin came into the world through one man(Adam) and death as the result of sin, so death spread to all men, [no one being able to stop it or to escape its power] because all men sinned.“
Romans 5:12.
The only thing God gives is eternal life. God can only give what He has in Himself. There is no darkness and death in God so how can God give us death? God is not the Author of Death. The only thing in God is light and life. Even God Himself died with the sin of the world but rose up on the third day. To show us that He is not the Author of death and when death came knocking at His door He was raised up and that kicking down the power of fear death held on us. Death is dead guys! Death is defeated and we have the light of life in Jesus.
We need to see the book of Job and the Old Testament not carnally but spiritually. Not according to the Letter but according to the Spirit of the book. And Jesus is the Spirit of the whole Bible. In the Old Testament it was Christ concealed and the New Testament is Christ revealed for who He is “the word of God made flesh”.
God needs to be sanctified in the eyes of the church. There is nowhere we Jesus brought death to anyone in the Gospels. And He said I only do what I see my Father do. When Jesus’ disciples wanted Jesus to call down fire to consume the Samaritans for denying them access through their town what did Jesus say to Peter? In fact the Bible says He rebuked them. ”And when His disciples James and John observed this, they said, Lord, do You wish us to command fire to come down from heaven and consume them, even as Elijah did? [II Kings 1:9-16.] But He turned and rebuked and severely censured them. He said, You do not know of what sort of spirit you are,“”For the Son of Man did not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them [from the penalty of eternal death]. And they journeyed on to another village.“
Luke 9:55,56 AMPC
We live in a fallen world where sin and death is around us however in that we have light and life and death is defeated and will be completely eradicated when death will put in the lake of fire. Rev. 20:14.
This was intense😢. Wow. Great job Kambua.
The way part I ended made me dread the continuation, yet here I am! 🤷🤷
This was deep men go through so much pain but society mostly focuses on the woman now I have a different perspective that men feel the pain n mourn too
Thank you Kambua, Willis, Omari, and O'Neal. I needed to hear this! Thank you
Thank you, Kambua, for this space we now know to give grace even to men in loss
Salute to gentlemen for sharing their stories not easy but who is God.
I thank God for He is a good God all through our life,He knows every reason for everything. We have a reason for trusting Him all the time.
Am humbled and God bless you kambua
I cried part one and i know this one too I'm going to cry. I'm waiting here with some tissues
Thank you for being here 🦋
Hugs and hugs and hugs💗💗💗.. LOVE AND LIGHT
wow this conversation is so emotional 😢😢😢😢 feeling so different on lost and grief now
Its so good to hear the mens perspective on child and pregnancy loss, this was beautiful Kambua. Thank you for creating the space for this discussion, for sure, its making a difference.
Thank you so much!
Wow! I have learnt alot especially coming from the men
I was really waiting for part 2..I shed a tear
Just so emotional ,hearing the pain this men hv gone through..
Yes, their pain is real and valid
This, is deep. Kambua MORE GRACE to you.
Thank you Kambua. Words fail me but thank you.
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Gentlemen! God bless and bse with you. Thank you Kambua
These conversations are so impactful.
Wow.What a conversation!Kambua Thanks for inviting these great men.
This is real talk.......
Yaani mambo kwa ground ni different 🎉
Great point. You cannot be strong for anyone - Omari👌
Men talking about God❤ anyway i cried much and learned at the Same time
So beautiful, relatable and encouraging. ❤
This is a beautiful platform.. Grace to everyone journeying on such a path .God got you
Thank you , thank you Kambua, And the gentlemen for being authentic,
Yani you're going through a loss at the same time divorce and separated. There's nothing like being strong for sure.
I went through that. It broke me to my core😭
There's so much merry making n we mostly forget such conversation need to be held
. Thanks Kambua, .First time for me to watch n am already subscribed...
Thank you for subbing! Welcome on board 🦋
God bless you Kambua and the three men
All the feels!!
Thks kambua I enjoy watching ad listen ad I hv learn alot God bless you ❤
Very courageous and brave gentlemen there. Thank you for sharing your stories 😊
God is the owner of life - Oneel
Have just heard Willis say how he became mad at God.. same case applied to me .
Love this really real conversations. Thank you Kambua these are very important conversations.
Thank you for this conversation
Great show.The gents were so vulnerable to share with us.Thank you and may all of us taste the peace of God❤❤
Wow!! What a deep conversation. Thanks kambua for this ❤❤
Am watching this at 10pm and oh God, Thankyou Kambua
A very refreshing conversation!
Kambua this space really opened my heart n eyes am really grateful for alot..ipray iget to meet u oneday...and am sooo grateful now am pregnant almost due n such stories really mk you know n learn alot abt this life n journey
Very enlightening conversations. Thank you Kambua and the guests
Thank you.
This is the best Christmas gift that u HV given us. I know alot will heal thro u guys. Much luv & happy holidays
My goodness this breaks my heart so much💔💔 may God always hold you
This was sooo gooodd!!! Thank you!! ❤
Thank you for this am inspired by you kambua
Thank you for being here 🦋
That ka statement "utapata mwingine ,u are young "makes me feel more sad...if people don't know what to tell a grieving parent, just keep quiet
Such strong men!
My heart hurts💔💔this conversation
We need to talk about infertility too.
Nice one 👍 🎉
Kambua jameni...
Anyway,8 minutes to go
Haha it’s here!
This was a great conversation❤❤
These are strong men, strong men are vulnerable,strong men cry🙏