Yep great thanks for sharing. I used to ride on that old trollybus route to visit my aunt Lilly in Ferry rd. Haha! Notice they have knocked a church down at that fork dont often knock a church down do they. Thanks again Will
What a very clever film and something I have pondered about many times. Really excellent and most interesting. I wish we had similar films from all over the Country.
Cheers Butch, I don't suppose it will get as many views as the original but glad I was able to make it with the help of the garage and LT Museum. There is an open day at Fulwell Garage on May 12th. 2012 with lots of buses coming from other museums. I will be filming that day as well.
The original film shows many of the antiquated trams (far older than their contemporaries elsewhere in London) which was the reason why LUT decided to convert the route from Wimbledon outwards to trolleybuses. The 'sparks' effect gave a tremendous rise in passenger numbers on the old tram routes. Removal of the tram tracks also reduced track maintenance and road repair costs dramatically.
I lived close to Fulwell Depot 1949-73 and worked in Twickers 1966-73, so all of this is very nostalgic for me! In fact, the tram tracks were still extant in Heath Road, Twickenham (under the tarmac) until dug-up during road widening c1968. The tarred wood blocks recovered from the roadway were much prized locally for the fireplace! And I could tell some tales about 'accidentally' de-wired trolleybuses, especially where the 601 and 667 routes split at the end of Stanley Road!
@@harstan7333 I used to travel on these trolleybuses, built in 1931, with my mother from Raynes Park to Kingston sometimes, for shopping - routes 604 and 605. Somehow the frail bodies on them (built for a ten year lifespan) were kept together until 1948, when they were replaced by brand new trolleybuses, the last that London Transport ever bought. Each pair of overhead wires from Fulwell Garage were closer together than what the newly-formed London Transport used from 1933 and had to be made wider to the revised standard. The vehicles initially interfered with household radio reception and two drums were put on the roofs containing suppression equipment to cure that. You can clearly see these on the video.
Really good, great to see what has changed in the last eighty years and what has stayed the same. Maybe in another 80 years we will have electric vehicles again!
Grew up on in Twickenham in Carpenters Court on Hampton Road just past the green. Can just remember the old trolley buses and the pole they carried to reattach to the overhead lines when they came of. Pity the film misses the section by Carpenters Court as I would have liked to have seen the almshouses that were on the site before the council flats.
Wow, great archive footage, and nice how the modern day route compares with the same route back in the 30s - Amazing! I notice there's a church on a corner of a junction in the old footage (1:28), but no church at all in the 2012 footage of the same place. I'm guessing it's because the church was bombed in WW2 and demolished soon after. Could be wrong but that's probably why there's no church on the same site in the 2012 footage.
They probably are the same trees, but remember they will have been pruned (coppiced) many times since 1931, and the 1931 film is from mid May with the trees in near full bloom, whereas the 2012 film is from March, so the leaves won't be out.
Wonderful. Thankyou
I grew up in Teddington and still make that journey now and again....fascinating to watch..Thanks Alan!
Yep great thanks for sharing. I used to ride on that old trollybus route to visit my aunt Lilly in Ferry rd. Haha! Notice they have knocked a church down at that fork dont often knock a church down do they. Thanks again Will
What a very clever film and something I have pondered about many times. Really excellent and most interesting. I wish we had similar films from all over the Country.
This is absolutely incredible.
Many thanks, glad you like it. Have been trying to do this for two years.
Amazing how little has changed in such a long time!! Great video.
Love seeing the TUbor Lager advert a nice beer that is
Cheers Butch, I don't suppose it will get as many views as the original but glad I was able to make it with the help of the garage and LT Museum. There is an open day at Fulwell Garage on May 12th. 2012 with lots of buses coming from other museums. I will be filming that day as well.
Well done. I live in the area, really fascinating.
The original film shows many of the antiquated trams (far older than their contemporaries elsewhere in London) which was the reason why LUT decided to convert the route from Wimbledon outwards to trolleybuses. The 'sparks' effect gave a tremendous rise in passenger numbers on the old tram routes. Removal of the tram tracks also reduced track maintenance and road repair costs dramatically.
I lived close to Fulwell Depot 1949-73 and worked in Twickers 1966-73, so all of this is very nostalgic for me! In fact, the tram tracks were still extant in Heath Road, Twickenham (under the tarmac) until dug-up during road widening c1968. The tarred wood blocks recovered from the roadway were much prized locally for the fireplace! And I could tell some tales about 'accidentally' de-wired trolleybuses, especially where the 601 and 667 routes split at the end of Stanley Road!
@@harstan7333 I used to travel on these trolleybuses, built in 1931, with my mother from Raynes Park to Kingston sometimes, for shopping - routes 604 and 605. Somehow the frail bodies on them (built for a ten year lifespan) were kept together until 1948, when they were replaced by brand new trolleybuses, the last that London Transport ever bought. Each pair of overhead wires from Fulwell Garage were closer together than what the newly-formed London Transport used from 1933 and had to be made wider to the revised standard. The vehicles initially interfered with household radio reception and two drums were put on the roofs containing suppression equipment to cure that. You can clearly see these on the video.
Can't lie this is actually so cool
Really good, great to see what has changed in the last eighty years and what has stayed the same. Maybe in another 80 years we will have electric vehicles again!
Grew up on in Twickenham in Carpenters Court on Hampton Road just past the green. Can just remember the old trolley buses and the pole they carried to reattach to the overhead lines when they came of. Pity the film misses the section by Carpenters Court as I would have liked to have seen the almshouses that were on the site before the council flats.
This is awesome. :')
Hope they do this again with the flying buses in 70 years time. :)
`This is amazing x
AbsolutelyRuwaydah Well....thank you.
Wow, great archive footage, and nice how the modern day route compares with the same route back in the 30s - Amazing! I notice there's a church on a corner of a junction in the old footage (1:28), but no church at all in the 2012 footage of the same place. I'm guessing it's because the church was bombed in WW2 and demolished soon after. Could be wrong but that's probably why there's no church on the same site in the 2012 footage.
There IS a replacement church there, but it's single storey, set back and is hidden behind the trees.
not sure if those trees on twickenham green are the same !! 85 years older? They would have to be more massive. What do you think?
They probably are the same trees, but remember they will have been pruned (coppiced) many times since 1931, and the 1931 film is from mid May with the trees in near full bloom, whereas the 2012 film is from March, so the leaves won't be out.
any chance of a an extended version with no places skipped?
alastair saint That is all the available old footage that I had.
Very interesting and cleverly done though would have preferred popular music of 1931 as background.
I would have liked to re cast everyone, but I think Health and Safety might have had something to say about it!
Wow!
I cant believe there used to be a church, I mean a proper church at the beginning of Tedington Highstreet!
bombed in ww2