Carlito House You are saying America is not a racist country, are you serious? America was based on discrimination extermination of Indians, 400years of slavery after the slaves being freed they were put in ghettos without any rights and an apartheid society. Pleaseeees. Are you amnesiac?
I believe the change should begin with giving unbiased education/history about each ethnicity of people without it being watered down, bias, & half truths
The true history of slavery in America the history of whites in the oppression in America the history of what happen after slaves were free in American that's what she mean by teach the Real history we as black Americans need to know this but as you can see soon as you mentioned teach history the white man starts talking about re-writing history that's what you people do we are not willing to avoid the truth we simply want to know the truth what you As white people need to do is except the truth of systematic racism racism built into the system
+Gabriel Maroto As someone who grew up in New England, I do find it shocking that people nowadays don't seem to grasp that we, America, were the tiny colony that took on the invincible British Empire (the empire on which the sun never set). While it is true that the British Empire believed itself to be superior to other people and that, as such, it could traverse the world brining "culture to the savages" and looting lesser people of their natural resources in exchange for "the pleasure of English law and order" -- America, was not the British Empire. It was a colony. It fought the impossible battle because it wanted to break away from the British aristocratic, class-based system. Heck, it was the British that funded and kept afloat the American slave system for its own purpose. Many observed that slavery in America was so inefficient and unprofitable in a rapidly industrializing world that it would have never survived as long as it had if the British had not used political influence and financial support to keep it alive. I think the British actually probably wanted America divided in hopes that it would collapse in a bloody civil war (indeed this is what the British did in India and South Africa and Eastern Europe and countless other nations it sought to exploit). Moreover, it was America that pushed the UK out of its seat atop the world order and brought about the LIBERATION of other colonies throughout the world. A quick glance at all the American colonies reveals ... none. And, in fact, we appear to provide more jobs abroad than we do here. And, most tellingly, Puerto Rico, which is currently in default, does not seek independence but rather a CLOSER relationship with the mainland. Ultimately, I understand your view point and what you likely have been taught. I think it does us all a disservice though to lose site of the historical and original design of America. America was exceedingly progressive FOR IT'S (pre-French revolution, pre-enlightenment, pre-industrialization) day. Thus, I think it would be much more accurate for the "evils of the white man" to be more accurately assigned to Europe and not the "white men" who left Europe. It almost reminds me of how people now accuse Donald Trump of "being a part of the corruption he so despises" after he has explained that he "wants to CHANGE the system to get rid of corruption. In short, anyone who really blames America for european history and blames the North for its bloody war to defeat the south, is really saying this: "there is no point in trying to free and empower those who are oppressed, because they will then simply be free and empowered to attack you." Perhaps you disagree, but what am I missing here? My family was oppressed by europeans and came here just as the family of african-american slaves were oppressed by europeans and arrived here, and just as europeans (SPANISH EUROPEANS) showed up in Latin and South America and enslaved the natives. Indeed, it was only a small section of europeans fed up with europe that arrived in New England, New Amsterdam and Pennsylvania, who created an entirely new society. Thus, for education now to blur or entirely misrepresent the distinction between EUROPE and AMERICA, as well as the NORTH and the SOUTH, is no small thing. Ultimately, while America today is far from perfect, it was not a people, it was an idea and its important to remember that people voluntarily left one society to partake in this new idea. Perhaps if we embrace the CONCEPT of America over the people who make it up, we may better be able to move forward and prosper together. Just my two cents. I come from a family of teachers and always welcome the opportunity to discuss.
+Rashon ShonMuzik Williams +Rashon ShonMuzik Williams Al history has biases Rashon. Thats the first rule of studying history,there is not such thing as unbiased presentation because all historians who record history through out history have had biases.
Rashon ShonMuzik Williams What do you mean by truth ???? Every historian that has recorded all history that we know today was recorded with a bias because the historian that wrote it IS BIASED. Ask any historian and he/she will tell you that "unbiased history" doesn't exist. You either agree with the interoperation of the history or you don't.
Bennett McCoy i completely disagree with you because not all black people have children out of the wedrock and you have to talk about the fact that 50% percent of marriages fail, the majority of those marriages are white marriage. I think Tim wise is on point
Dana LeGrande Don't you think it is a good thing that a White person acknowledges his White privilege as opposed to the majority of the White community who seems to either be oblivious or willfully dismiss the notion of White privilege?
It makes me so happy to actually see a real discussion. I have listened to many podcasts and youtube videos and speeches that used ideology to justify their standpoints- and generally objective, defensive, harsh interactions over superiority. I believe discussions like this are very much needed in today's society and its refreshing to have found this, since it is generally free of bias.
Tim Wise is always on point and I've read both of his books, Black Like Me and White Like Me some years ago. Was so surprised to see it all come up now given the situations going on, would love to meet him one day and others fighting to combat racial injustice. I'll tell you, I was around right before Mr. Trayvon Martin got shot, I was the one holding the skittles and went to the store to get some Skittles and Ice Tea. It was nothing malicious, it was a spur of the moment thing. So then the jokes fly. But it was part of a ritual from Hollywood as his father knew about it and his father is in the Masonic Order also.
I love that the councilman knows that someone really understand and he gave Tim wise his just do. And he is definitely on point in this interview. And the mayor i somewhat feel that she wants to say more but is holding back that's what Tim is saying speak up cause we need these comments to make a difference.
Tim west’s commitment, passion, knowledge and intelligence on how racism and politics can create such toxicity and disadvantages is extremely enlightening and the whole discussion provoked real reflection. Excellent forum
Great panel. I'm glad that people are addressing this and they seem to care so much. I learned something. We have a lot more in common than we think and if we take the time to get to know eachother we'd make better decisions because it does affect us all.
Very well done. Some Americans are getting very educated about racism. It's true that racism has to be defined and discussed in ways that frame it correctly. It may be less confrontational when the discussion is framed in groups so that we can compare ourselves to the larger frame and we can set up objectives for us to achieve. Success can only come when it is possible to measure progress in groups. Feedback is essential between groups by individuals and the language must be understood by all. I miss Obama so much! I think his presidency had some positive things for blacks because I can hear what is being said more clearly and with some people connections are being made which signals a possibility of starting a program that can get a feedback loop working which can progress until the present is recognizable as having improved! On average for everyone. This panel is giving me hope and that is good. God bless everyone.
hope this goes somewhere because it looks to me like there was some shade in the room. but truth is the only one that would open up about this subject was mr. wise. the others made some points but danced around the subject. clearly people are not just separated by race, its also Statius, education, and even life style, but the biggest one of all is religion.
I don't have a lot of friends . Don't want a lot , just a few good ones . I treat my friends of other races the same and never mention race. That do the same . Seems to work for us . But we ain't highly educated and probably don't know any better .
I I wish that I could get in contact and participate in these discussions as well because its economic and academic terrorism that is the root source for the systemic racism in the zoning and the things that tim wise just talked about and I would love to be able to explain that
There are a lot of excellent points brought up. There is indeed widespread systematic and institutional racism. However, it seems like the focus within the african american community is the point out the systemic inequalities without doing much to address issues at home- children out of wedlock, single mothers, fathers in prison, etc. I would also like to point out that respect is earned, not demanded. If people don't respect you, pointing out statistics won't change how they feel. Shaming them into being politically correct won't change the reality. For example, companies in silicon valley are being bullied to address their supposed diversity problem. However have you noticed the demographics in elite engineering schools that these companies recruit from? The issue is immensely complex and the path forward is not clear to me. However, I do know that the strategy taken by the african american community will not change anything for the next few decades. The african american family unit is broken, and no one in the african american community is bold enough to fix it or to bring attention to it. It is far easier for the leaders to dedicate themselves to social justice and getting a bigger piece of the social welfare pie. Remember that even in socialist/communist countries, the ones who are powerful socially/economically are the ones from good families who work hard. If you can't perfect the "good family" or "hard work" part down, success will continue to be elusive and your community will have no choice but to continue to blame others.
the only way to end racism is to stop forcing different people to live together against their will. give everybody the right to an independent country, a culture and a place to call home. that's the way to real diversity
I really liked this panel. I love the idea of making words into actions, and also communities picking who polices them. heck, make it like a reality TV show even, "Baltimore's next chosen officer!" but theatrics aside, we must be smart about making sure our proposed solutions go in the direction that is truly best for the communities that need them. there is a tendency I'm seeing over time in my limited experience with politics is that despite whatever grassroots efforts the people try to put forward, there is another force, call it the elitists, the status quo maintainers or the racist forces, who will always be seeking to derail or twist the road to solutions for their benefit. one example of this would be community officers meeting their neighborhood for 90 days, and if it's an area that's mainly poc, what the undermining forces will try to still do is things like have the voting day or time or location be somewhere inaccessible to poorer working people. this is why I like my town's mail in ballots with the option of many drop off boxes scattered around the county. or they would have the police voting event at something separate than the yearly ballots, but still have it in a restricted space. so while I like the idea of neighborhoods and small towns getting to meet and choose their police officers, (the new policy) this ability to choose, (the process) needs to make sure it doesn't also undermine the people it's supposed to be intended to benefit for the benefit of those who want to keep things racist. like they said early in the panel, it has a sticking power hinged on a lot of in-between steps, to make sure things are happening more fairly.
The same rhetoric won't solve this issue, people need to realize and understand what's going on in a biblical perspective instead of trying to figure it out with useless conversation. The Most High told you what was going to happen if you broke the covenant that was made with him, just read and study his word, I guarantee you will get a deeper understanding of what is really going on. We're going to have to stop thinking that rhyme and rhetoric will solve problems. Black people are going to have to stop finger popping and singing. Black people are going to have to stop moaning, rocking, crying, complaining and begging. We as blacks are going to have to get over our fear. Black people do not know what's happening, but black people are going to have to learn and understand what is happening. Black people are not thinking, but we're going to have to learn to think. We're not analyzing and planning. Black people do not understand self-respect, but black people are going to have to learn .
+Dewayne Thomas continue- black people are going to have to stop permitting children to play with parenthood. All these behaviors, and many more, have absolutely nothing to do with addressing the challenges and conditions of the open warfare continuously being waged against the black collective. Where there is no vision the people will perish. PROVERBS 22:1. In this struggle against white supremacy, the great leader of the Chinese-speaking non-white people, Chairman Mao Tse-Tung, accurately stated as recorded in The Collective Works Of Mao Tse-Tung, " It is well known that when you do anything, unless you understand its actual circumstances, its nature and its relations to other things, you will not know the laws governing it, or how to do it, or be able to do it well." With this in mind, black peoole everywhere must began to understand the exact and specific nature of the war that is being waged against the black collective.
Dis same convo were being said doin bro Malcolm X lifetime... It's now 2024 and y'all are still havin da same covo... As if y'all don't know who's behind all dis madness (🤬) How do u get rid of cancer out of da body? How do u remove moles off of ur body? When ur beautician has fried ur hair (women) So what do u have 2 do afterwards?... Pt ♊ Here is Wisdom...(🔥) Romaiym: 9:21...🔥📢 Tehilliymh: 55:21...🔥📢 Shalawam 🕊️ From da tribe of Yudah... 🦁
It's not about what he is costing NFL owners, Colon is representing the "New Elites" Think about motives, they want to tear down monuments and get blacks fighting whites. But who would want that? Why can't anyone see the Elites want them down, the statues were Elites who by their wealth felt they should be allowed the liberty to own people. The Elites will rise again when people forget, globalization and depopulation is the plan. There will only be two sets of people, not race driven, The Elites wealthy and powerful and the worker slaves to the Elites. It's about Genocide of white middle class and black middle class, anyone who will fight them. The rich just want to buy their proper place in the New World Order.
Can anybody boil this down to any specific actions to be taken, any specific statistics that were stated? This is either taking too long to get to or they just arent bringing anything like that up...
He speaks of the "distribution" of wealth in a tone than suggests that wealth is supposed to be evenly spread between all members of a society. Distribution of wealth refers to how that wealth is distributed, not how it should be distributed. Wealth belongs to those who earn it or create it. Wealth is not something you can take from one person and give to another person. That is socialism.
1. Start telling ALL of America’s history. Tell about the part that Blacks and Indians played in revolutionary war. Maybe that America would not have won had they not been there. 2. Stop war on drugs and do prison reform. Need to restore the black family. Also, stop building the justice system on ticket cash. 3. Change the living conditions by offering opportunity... e.g., summer jobs for 1,000 youth, raising the minimum wage to $15
O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise (each other). Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you. And Allah has full knowledge and is well acquainted (with all things)." - [49:13]
long spring court is already adjudicated that issue it is against the Constitution to discriminate in private and public spaces--you're out of your legal league.
We humans are wired to be naturally drawn towards whom we have the most commonality. it's our natural tendency. Our individuality exists and the commonality within that individuality tends to draw us closer to each other. Unfortunately we are beings that are highly dependent on our senses, thus, we tend to initially get closer to those we physically perceive as more similar to our characteristics. But, we are also rational, thinking and feeling beings. that's why, the longer we know and get in contact with each other, the more we become drawn not anymore primarily based on our physical attributes but to our inner commonality, our perceived common capacity to the same quality of love, friendship, care and so on. This is why social integration through personal interaction is what USA needs and not laws and regulations. Too much laws and regulations alienates us. We all need to know and experience our inner commonality and not limit our thinking to our perceive physical attributes. We need to go out there and meet each other. Our respective racial characteristics - our individuality, physical attributes, culture, belief, and so on - is real and should not be denied. I am of Asian descent and i always appreciate a fellow American recognize that. It is our behavior towards each other that divides us not our race.
+orania_ you can't be serious a advantage is a form of privilege look at the definition. I can't believe there are actual people out here who make comments of pure stupidity. you contradict your own statement. you put yourself in verbal checkmate. and you have the nerve to try to validate your contradiction.
To stop it is to stop downgrading us black kids with stereo types..do u know how bad it hurts to have prisons made just for u and friends because of a mistake someone else made
+Xzavier Sullivan I hear you on that one and can't imagine what is like in your position. It must be awful. If we want to solve that problem though, I'd point out that you can't stop people from thinking something, even if they don't say it. To that end, I'd say perhaps consider taking a listen back to this video, and count how many times your friends were called out for their behavior in this talk. I counted zero references. And what that says to someone like me, is that nobody on the other side of the race issue appears to see any difference between you and your friends either. Indeed, as someone who tries as hard as he can to empathize and keep an open mind, the truth is that it seems these speakers DEMAND that people be treated as a group, rather than individuals. Everything is "communities" or "people of color" or blacks and whites. Those terms make it impossible for someone like me to see you as one person rather than a "person of color". But this is ridiculous because all communities have troublemakers and good folks. How can we as a society call out the bad black folks if white people can't because they'll be accused of racism and black folks choose not to. It appears to create a nice bubble of protection for your friends to create terrible preconceptions of you. I think its critical that there be a joint effort to view people as people, of which there are good people and bad people. To let a bad person act out without calling them out simply because they are black appears to be racist, but then again, that is just from my perspective and I'm a white person who is not racist and definitely doesn't want to be called racist. It's honestly quite hard from this side of the game to keep up with what I am supposed to say and do or not say and not do to avoid the racist label.
I haven't heard any major grievances, only 'luxury problems' like not having police officers sit on your couch and look at your family photos. It's clear that the racism industry and all of the people employed by it have a severe shortage of raw materials. Get a different job, get a different hobby.
WOW!! TALK, TALK, TALK and TALK. WTF!! This is why we can't have a decent open discussion. We are (all) peoples of this world. Own it!! What an embrassment! A white socially, brought up low class person with same up bringing has to (school)come and vocalize what you all really want to say. Stop questioning and being politically correct! Tim - your awesome.
Surveys given to people who do not comprehend the problem but rather "pariot" what they have been told, is of no value in solving the problem. Surveys only help politicians and activists give their constituents what they THINK they want.
12:48 pm Racism in my opinion in it's broadcast sense is: The anillalation of any other race that is not that of yours, to secure that your race does not face extinction.
Let's start with the "usual complaints" being a high-level form of gaslighting. Then move to the preconditioned notion that there's Black people in one corner, and everyone else with their dukes up, pepper spray, and pitch forks in the opposite corner. Now lets take a gander at how we all got here: Land appropriation, colonization, broken treaties, lands stolen, slavery, civil war, post war sharecropping, more broken treaties, Jim Crow Laws, sundown towns, lynch mobs, drowned towns, burned down towns. redlining, forced welfare, forced urban housing, predatory lending practices, police brutality, mass incarceration. Now what was your question about Black people?
He acknowledges very openly that he's privileged. He even has a book about being a privileged son. He realized that very early on in life that certain groups of other people weren't. Hence the reason he became an activist for social justice.
one could argue that the idea of religion is to blame for racism the idea that "god" and how one views "him" is more important than humanity more ppl die in the name of God then all the wars and natural disasters combined at least from a historical stand point granted organized religion has a lot of good ideas on being a good person or that is to say how one in a society should act but that very idea incorages separation and hatred I agree religion was one of the main catalysts that created the "civilized world" but like most things that r out of date things that were important "then" are no longer important and religion is one of them
I think racism is talked about TOO MUCH in this country. To an almost annoying extent! I'm honestly sick of hearing why I'm white and I should guilty. Here's an idea; maybe if you DON'T talk about it so much it just might get better!
If u feel guilty for being white you probably are racist ! Thats like someone getting offended at rapists being ridiculed even tho they aren't "rapist" . But you have no real power so its not your fault you shouldn't feel guilty
@WilliamCarter, I don't think you understand what exactly you are writing, @ Jonathan, no one is born a racist but was thought how to be a racist. It is funny how many people use social media to go crazy, but never want to face the issues face to face. It is funny how ignorant you guys are
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Tim Wise is such an instrumental figure in our global community. Really glad I was able to watch this. Truly eye opening stuff.
Carlito House You are saying America is not a racist country, are you serious? America was based on discrimination extermination of Indians, 400years of slavery after the slaves being freed they were put in ghettos without any rights and an apartheid society. Pleaseeees. Are you amnesiac?
@@jacinthecesar2091 pretty much all countries were built on those things.
I believe the change should begin with giving unbiased education/history about each ethnicity of people without it being watered down, bias, & half truths
The true history of slavery in America the history of whites in the oppression in America the history of what happen after slaves were free in American that's what she mean by teach the Real history we as black Americans need to know this but as you can see soon as you mentioned teach history the white man starts talking about re-writing history that's what you people do we are not willing to avoid the truth we simply want to know the truth what you As white people need to do is except the truth of systematic racism racism built into the system
+Gabriel Maroto As someone who grew up in New England, I do find it shocking that people nowadays don't seem to grasp that we, America, were the tiny colony that took on the invincible British Empire (the empire on which the sun never set). While it is true that the British Empire believed itself to be superior to other people and that, as such, it could traverse the world brining "culture to the savages" and looting lesser people of their natural resources in exchange for "the pleasure of English law and order" -- America, was not the British Empire. It was a colony. It fought the impossible battle because it wanted to break away from the British aristocratic, class-based system.
Heck, it was the British that funded and kept afloat the American slave system for its own purpose. Many observed that slavery in America was so inefficient and unprofitable in a rapidly industrializing world that it would have never survived as long as it had if the British had not used political influence and financial support to keep it alive. I think the British actually probably wanted America divided in hopes that it would collapse in a bloody civil war (indeed this is what the British did in India and South Africa and Eastern Europe and countless other nations it sought to exploit).
Moreover, it was America that pushed the UK out of its seat atop the world order and brought about the LIBERATION of other colonies throughout the world. A quick glance at all the American colonies reveals ... none. And, in fact, we appear to provide more jobs abroad than we do here. And, most tellingly, Puerto Rico, which is currently in default, does not seek independence but rather a CLOSER relationship with the mainland.
Ultimately, I understand your view point and what you likely have been taught. I think it does us all a disservice though to lose site of the historical and original design of America. America was exceedingly progressive FOR IT'S (pre-French revolution, pre-enlightenment, pre-industrialization) day. Thus, I think it would be much more accurate for the "evils of the white man" to be more accurately assigned to Europe and not the "white men" who left Europe. It almost reminds me of how people now accuse Donald Trump of "being a part of the corruption he so despises" after he has explained that he "wants to CHANGE the system to get rid of corruption. In short, anyone who really blames America for european history and blames the North for its bloody war to defeat the south, is really saying this: "there is no point in trying to free and empower those who are oppressed, because they will then simply be free and empowered to attack you."
Perhaps you disagree, but what am I missing here? My family was oppressed by europeans and came here just as the family of african-american slaves were oppressed by europeans and arrived here, and just as europeans (SPANISH EUROPEANS) showed up in Latin and South America and enslaved the natives. Indeed, it was only a small section of europeans fed up with europe that arrived in New England, New Amsterdam and Pennsylvania, who created an entirely new society. Thus, for education now to blur or entirely misrepresent the distinction between EUROPE and AMERICA, as well as the NORTH and the SOUTH, is no small thing.
Ultimately, while America today is far from perfect, it was not a people, it was an idea and its important to remember that people voluntarily left one society to partake in this new idea. Perhaps if we embrace the CONCEPT of America over the people who make it up, we may better be able to move forward and prosper together.
Just my two cents. I come from a family of teachers and always welcome the opportunity to discuss.
+Rashon ShonMuzik Williams
+Rashon ShonMuzik Williams
Al history has biases Rashon. Thats the first rule of studying history,there is not such thing as unbiased presentation because all historians who record history through out history have had biases.
+pitster110 The truth is unbiased.. Three sides to every story... European History has shown that morality was not a priority to them.
Rashon ShonMuzik Williams
What do you mean by truth ???? Every historian that has recorded all history that we know today was recorded with a bias because the historian that wrote it IS BIASED. Ask any historian and he/she will tell you that "unbiased history" doesn't exist. You either agree with the interoperation of the history or you don't.
tim wise is on point..
As always!
Bennett McCoy i completely disagree with you because not all black people have children out of the wedrock and you have to talk about the fact that 50% percent of marriages fail, the majority of those marriages are white marriage. I think Tim wise is on point
Tim has also acknowledged his white privileged...that's almost his whole platform...
Tim Wise needs to acknowledge his Ashkenazi JEWISH privilege and make THAT his platform.
Until then he remains nothing less then a snake in the grass.
Dana LeGrande Don't you think it is a good thing that a White person acknowledges his White privilege as opposed to the majority of the White community who seems to either be oblivious or willfully dismiss the notion of White privilege?
It makes me so happy to actually see a real discussion. I have listened to many podcasts and youtube videos and speeches that used ideology to justify their standpoints- and generally objective, defensive, harsh interactions over superiority. I believe discussions like this are very much needed in today's society and its refreshing to have found this, since it is generally free of bias.
*There can not be an undoing of Racism in Amerikkka's City until there is a decriminalization of Afrikan people period!*
Tim Wise hits the race issue on the nail each and every time.
i study the comment sections and it is typical going nowhere fast as usual.
im 8 years late but read mine
superb. Tim Wise blows me away every time.
+Brittany Rogers lol
Tim Wise is always on point and I've read both of his books, Black Like Me and White Like Me some years ago. Was so surprised to see it all come up now given the situations going on, would love to meet him one day and others fighting to combat racial injustice. I'll tell you, I was around right before Mr. Trayvon Martin got shot, I was the one holding the skittles and went to the store to get some Skittles and Ice Tea. It was nothing malicious, it was a spur of the moment thing. So then the jokes fly. But it was part of a ritual from Hollywood as his father knew about it and his father is in the Masonic Order also.
They all know this, so not sure why they and the Media are acting surprised? I'm getting attacked also like you wouldn't believe.
Did he write the second book
John Howard griffin
I love that the councilman knows that someone really understand and he gave Tim wise his just do. And he is definitely on point in this interview. And the mayor i somewhat feel that she wants to say more but is holding back that's what Tim is saying speak up cause we need these comments to make a difference.
Tim west’s commitment, passion, knowledge and intelligence on how racism and politics can create such toxicity and disadvantages is extremely enlightening and the whole discussion provoked real reflection.
Excellent forum
The host looks like Mike Singletary, the Pro Football Coach.
I AM Bernard Barron❤🎉
What an echo chamber. Why wasn't Jared Taylor invited to present a huwite perspective?
Great panel. I'm glad that people are addressing this and they seem to care so much. I learned something. We have a lot more in common than we think and if we take the time to get to know eachother we'd make better decisions because it does affect us all.
Check out Dr. Joy DeGruy post traumatic slave syndrome it's really good and very interesting
I love this panel...very good ideas. Can City management implement those ideas?
Very well done. Some Americans are getting very educated about racism. It's true that racism has to be defined and discussed in ways that frame it correctly. It may be less confrontational when the discussion is framed in groups so that we can compare ourselves to the larger frame and we can set up objectives for us to achieve. Success can only come when it is possible to measure progress in groups. Feedback is essential between groups by individuals and the language must be understood by all.
I miss Obama so much! I think his presidency had some positive things for blacks because I can hear what is being said more clearly and with some people connections are being made which signals a possibility of starting a program that can get a feedback loop working which can progress until the present is recognizable as having improved! On average for everyone.
This panel is giving me hope and that is good.
God bless everyone.
We're is Jane Elliot and Claude Anderson you missed 2 very important people
hope this goes somewhere because it looks to me like there was some shade in the room. but truth is the only one that would open up about this subject was mr. wise. the others made some points but danced around the subject. clearly people are not just separated by race, its also Statius, education, and even life style, but the biggest one of all is religion.
Tim wise for president
He would definitely have my vote ! LOVE TIM WISE
Please no
Tim wise and Neil d. Tyson. 2024
BLACKS BOYCOTT AMERICA...SAVE YOUR MONEY.
The A should be Accountability.
I don't have a lot of friends . Don't want a lot , just a few good ones . I treat my friends of other races the same and never mention race. That do the same . Seems to work for us . But we ain't highly educated and probably don't know any better .
Anyone other then me noticing that the panel consists of two jews and two african americans?
I can tell you probably belong to the maga movement right now! Fu
Stop the red lining!!!
I I wish that I could get in contact and participate in these discussions as well because its economic and academic terrorism that is the root source for the systemic racism in the zoning and the things that tim wise just talked about and I would love to be able to explain that
There are a lot of excellent points brought up. There is indeed widespread systematic and institutional racism. However, it seems like the focus within the african american community is the point out the systemic inequalities without doing much to address issues at home- children out of wedlock, single mothers, fathers in prison, etc. I would also like to point out that respect is earned, not demanded. If people don't respect you, pointing out statistics won't change how they feel. Shaming them into being politically correct won't change the reality. For example, companies in silicon valley are being bullied to address their supposed diversity problem. However have you noticed the demographics in elite engineering schools that these companies recruit from? The issue is immensely complex and the path forward is not clear to me. However, I do know that the strategy taken by the african american community will not change anything for the next few decades. The african american family unit is broken, and no one in the african american community is bold enough to fix it or to bring attention to it. It is far easier for the leaders to dedicate themselves to social justice and getting a bigger piece of the social welfare pie. Remember that even in socialist/communist countries, the ones who are powerful socially/economically are the ones from good families who work hard. If you can't perfect the "good family" or "hard work" part down, success will continue to be elusive and your community will have no choice but to continue to blame others.
the only way to end racism is to stop forcing different people to live together against their will. give everybody the right to an independent country, a culture and a place to call home. that's the way to real diversity
Calling it what it is ,correct
I really liked this panel. I love the idea of making words into actions, and also communities picking who polices them. heck, make it like a reality TV show even, "Baltimore's next chosen officer!" but theatrics aside, we must be smart about making sure our proposed solutions go in the direction that is truly best for the communities that need them. there is a tendency I'm seeing over time in my limited experience with politics is that despite whatever grassroots efforts the people try to put forward, there is another force, call it the elitists, the status quo maintainers or the racist forces, who will always be seeking to derail or twist the road to solutions for their benefit. one example of this would be community officers meeting their neighborhood for 90 days, and if it's an area that's mainly poc, what the undermining forces will try to still do is things like have the voting day or time or location be somewhere inaccessible to poorer working people. this is why I like my town's mail in ballots with the option of many drop off boxes scattered around the county. or they would have the police voting event at something separate than the yearly ballots, but still have it in a restricted space. so while I like the idea of neighborhoods and small towns getting to meet and choose their police officers, (the new policy) this ability to choose, (the process) needs to make sure it doesn't also undermine the people it's supposed to be intended to benefit for the benefit of those who want to keep things racist. like they said early in the panel, it has a sticking power hinged on a lot of in-between steps, to make sure things are happening more fairly.
The same rhetoric won't solve this issue, people need to realize and understand what's going on in a biblical perspective instead of trying to figure it out with useless conversation. The Most High told you what was going to happen if you broke the covenant that was made with him, just read and study his word, I guarantee you will get a deeper understanding of what is really going on. We're going to have to stop thinking that rhyme and rhetoric will solve problems. Black people are going to have to stop finger popping and singing. Black people are going to have to stop moaning, rocking, crying, complaining and begging. We as blacks are going to have to get over our fear. Black people do not know what's happening, but black people are going to have to learn and understand what is happening. Black people are not thinking, but we're going to have to learn to think. We're not analyzing and planning. Black people do not understand self-respect, but black people are going to have to learn .
+Dewayne Thomas I think they will definitely learn but it probably won't be from a bible js.
+Dewayne Thomas continue- black people are going to have to stop permitting children to play with parenthood. All these behaviors, and many more, have absolutely nothing to do with addressing the challenges and conditions of the open warfare continuously being waged against the black collective. Where there is no vision the people will perish. PROVERBS 22:1. In this struggle against white supremacy, the great leader of the Chinese-speaking non-white people, Chairman Mao Tse-Tung, accurately stated as recorded in The Collective Works Of Mao Tse-Tung, " It is well known that when you do anything, unless you understand its actual circumstances, its nature and its relations to other things, you will not know the laws governing it, or how to do it, or be able to do it well." With this in mind, black peoole everywhere must began to understand the exact and specific nature of the war that is being waged against the black collective.
Nice talk but in reality it will never happen in our lifetime.
talk talk talk enough fucking talk the only answer is complete separation
How are they defining “racism” here?
No the conversation needs to focus on racism not on all the other non existent issues
Matthew 26:52 All that live by the sword, die by the sword. Basically saying what goes around, comes around.
Dis same convo were being said doin bro Malcolm X lifetime... It's now 2024 and y'all are still havin da same covo... As if y'all don't know who's behind all dis madness (🤬)
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How do u remove moles off of ur body?
When ur beautician has fried ur hair (women) So what do u have 2 do afterwards?...
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It's not about what he is costing NFL owners, Colon is representing the "New Elites" Think about motives, they want to tear down monuments and get blacks fighting whites. But who would want that? Why can't anyone see the Elites want them down, the statues were Elites who by their wealth felt they should be allowed the liberty to own people. The Elites will rise again when people forget, globalization and depopulation is the plan. There will only be two sets of people, not race driven, The Elites wealthy and powerful and the worker slaves to the Elites. It's about Genocide of white middle class and black middle class, anyone who will fight them. The rich just want to buy their proper place in the New World Order.
Try try and try. The Government won’t respect life for nothing
Can anybody boil this down to any specific actions to be taken, any specific statistics that were stated? This is either taking too long to get to or they just arent bringing anything like that up...
He speaks of the "distribution" of wealth in a tone than suggests that wealth is supposed to be evenly spread between all members of a society.
Distribution of wealth refers to how that wealth is distributed, not how it should be distributed.
Wealth belongs to those who earn it or create it.
Wealth is not something you can take from one person and give to another person.
That is socialism.
Well the people who have it didn’t earn it on their own merit.
Undoing racism in american cities? U can't! Nice panel discussion though!
1. Start telling ALL of America’s history. Tell about the part that Blacks and Indians played in revolutionary war. Maybe that America would not have won had they not been there.
2. Stop war on drugs and do prison reform. Need to restore the black family. Also, stop building the justice system on ticket cash.
3. Change the living conditions by offering opportunity... e.g., summer jobs for 1,000 youth, raising the minimum wage to $15
O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise (each other). Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you. And Allah has full knowledge and is well acquainted (with all things)." - [49:13]
7/15/2024 nothing has changed. In fact, it has gotten worse.
long spring court is already adjudicated that issue it is against the Constitution to discriminate in private and public spaces--you're out of your legal league.
We humans are wired to be naturally drawn towards whom we have the most commonality. it's our natural tendency. Our individuality exists and the commonality within that individuality tends to draw us closer to each other.
Unfortunately we are beings that are highly dependent on our senses, thus, we tend to initially get closer to those we physically perceive as more similar to our characteristics.
But, we are also rational, thinking and feeling beings. that's why, the longer we know and get in contact with each other, the more we become drawn not anymore primarily based on our physical attributes but to our inner commonality, our perceived common capacity to the same quality of love, friendship, care and so on.
This is why social integration through personal interaction is what USA needs and not laws and regulations. Too much laws and regulations alienates us. We all need to know and experience our inner commonality and not limit our thinking to our perceive physical attributes. We need to go out there and meet each other.
Our respective racial characteristics - our individuality, physical attributes, culture, belief, and so on - is real and should not be
denied. I am of Asian descent and i always appreciate a fellow American recognize that.
It is our behavior towards each other that divides us not our race.
+orania_ you can't be serious a advantage is a form of privilege look at the definition. I can't believe there are actual people out here who make comments of pure stupidity. you contradict your own statement. you put yourself in verbal checkmate. and you have the nerve to try to validate your contradiction.
Monoamine oxidase A The warrior gene and black males. The Thug Gene? - Taki's Magazine A great read.
ALEAST THEIRS A EFFERT HERE !!
To stop it is to stop downgrading us black kids with stereo types..do u know how bad it hurts to have prisons made just for u and friends because of a mistake someone else made
+Xzavier Sullivan I hear you on that one and can't imagine what is like in your position. It must be awful.
If we want to solve that problem though, I'd point out that you can't stop people from thinking something, even if they don't say it. To that end, I'd say perhaps consider taking a listen back to this video, and count how many times your friends were called out for their behavior in this talk. I counted zero references. And what that says to someone like me, is that nobody on the other side of the race issue appears to see any difference between you and your friends either.
Indeed, as someone who tries as hard as he can to empathize and keep an open mind, the truth is that it seems these speakers DEMAND that people be treated as a group, rather than individuals. Everything is "communities" or "people of color" or blacks and whites. Those terms make it impossible for someone like me to see you as one person rather than a "person of color". But this is ridiculous because all communities have troublemakers and good folks. How can we as a society call out the bad black folks if white people can't because they'll be accused of racism and black folks choose not to. It appears to create a nice bubble of protection for your friends to create terrible preconceptions of you.
I think its critical that there be a joint effort to view people as people, of which there are good people and bad people. To let a bad person act out without calling them out simply because they are black appears to be racist, but then again, that is just from my perspective and I'm a white person who is not racist and definitely doesn't want to be called racist. It's honestly quite hard from this side of the game to keep up with what I am supposed to say and do or not say and not do to avoid the racist label.
Damn Thjs was good
I haven't heard any major grievances, only 'luxury problems' like not having police officers sit on your couch and look at your family photos. It's clear that the racism industry and all of the people employed by it have a severe shortage of raw materials.
Get a different job, get a different hobby.
This conversation should take place in Jamaica, where prejudice makes it extremely difficult for light skinned black humans.
Km um 45:18
Warning: This video may cause you to lose a substantial number of IQ points. Viewer discretion is advised.
WOW!! TALK, TALK, TALK and TALK. WTF!!
This is why we can't have a decent open discussion.
We are (all) peoples of this world. Own it!!
What an embrassment! A white socially, brought up low class person with same up bringing has to (school)come and vocalize what you all really want to say. Stop questioning and being politically correct!
Tim - your awesome.
Surveys given to people who do not comprehend the problem but rather "pariot" what they have been told, is of no value in solving the problem.
Surveys only help politicians and activists give their constituents what they THINK they want.
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Racism in my opinion in it's broadcast sense is: The anillalation of any other race that is not that of yours, to secure that your race does not face extinction.
Tim has no sense of fashion. Black striped jacket paired with square blue tie underneath a bloated red face?
that matters! lol
What's your point? And who cares about his clothes anyway.
" What's Goin on in America" notin' but the rent.
I wonder how many black people live in Mr. Wise neighborhood... ? I bet he's living in a white community
Instead of the usual complaints, will somebody explain why people avoid black people, their neighbourhoods, their culture?
Let's start with the "usual complaints" being a high-level form of gaslighting. Then move to the preconditioned notion that there's Black people in one corner, and everyone else with their dukes up, pepper spray, and pitch forks in the opposite corner. Now lets take a gander at how we all got here: Land appropriation, colonization, broken treaties, lands stolen, slavery, civil war, post war sharecropping, more broken treaties, Jim Crow Laws, sundown towns, lynch mobs, drowned towns, burned down towns. redlining, forced welfare, forced urban housing, predatory lending practices, police brutality, mass incarceration. Now what was your question about Black people?
We don’t all live in the same neighborhood, the world loves and imitates our culture and we are the ones who want to be left alone by others
Race hustling 101
Dam these slippery hustlers and their rac!st conversations.
You can't undue racism , black people are too ingrained in the past 😮
Tim Wise needs to acknowledge his Ashkenazi JEWISH privilege !!!
He acknowledges very openly that he's privileged. He even has a book about being a privileged son. He realized that very early on in life that certain groups of other people weren't. Hence the reason he became an activist for social justice.
Mission Impossible.
one could argue that the idea of religion is to blame for racism
the idea that "god" and how one views "him" is more important than humanity
more ppl die in the name of God
then all the wars and natural disasters combined at least from a historical stand point
granted organized religion has a lot of good ideas on being a good person or that is to say how one in a society should act
but that very idea incorages separation and hatred
I agree religion was one of the main catalysts that created the "civilized world"
but like most things that r out of date things that were important "then" are no longer important
and religion is one of them
I think racism is talked about TOO MUCH in this country. To an almost annoying extent! I'm honestly sick of hearing why I'm white and I should guilty. Here's an idea; maybe if you DON'T talk about it so much it just might get better!
If u feel guilty for being white you probably are racist ! Thats like someone getting offended at rapists being ridiculed even tho they aren't "rapist" .
But you have no real power so its not your fault you shouldn't feel guilty
+Yvng King , EXactly!!
@WilliamCarter, I don't think you understand what exactly you are writing, @ Jonathan, no one is born a racist but was thought how to be a racist. It is funny how many people use social media to go crazy, but never want to face the issues face to face. It is funny how ignorant you guys are
+william carter I love your social media humor
+william carter I love your social media humor
Congratulations brother man
Tim Wise brings the pain!!!!