RARE ANTIQUE BRIGGS LEVER START ENGINE RESTORATION (part 1)
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- We start restoration on a rare 1952 Hand Lever Start Briggs and Stratton 5s Engine!! (part 1)
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I consider myself fortunate to have stumbled upon this set of videos. I have only had the time to view the first one but will be back for more. My grandparents had two Eclipse mowers. One with the lever starter and an older one that had a rope pull that was nothing more than a handle on one end of a rope and a knot on the other. After you got that one running you had to put the rope someplace where you could find it in the future. I seem to recall knotting it loosely over the handles. The lever starter may not be common but it was a major selling point for Eclipse, and they pointed this out in their advertising that it was exclusive to Eclipse mowers. Further, the B & S engine on my Eclipse mower is in original paint which is a teal green, so it isn't out of the question that your blue one was an original color as well.
I've recently started a rehab on an Eclipse mower manufactured in 1959 and have had no luck determining the model number of the B & S engine. If it is an online source that allows you to determine model of engine by serial number would you pass that link along to me. I am having zero luck determining what model my engine is. Really enjoying your videos.
Always enjoy spending time with you in the shop i don't care if its working pon the ford or working on a Briggs always enjoy hanging out with roadking!
Thanks Bob!! We appreciate you hanging with us!!☺
Yasss!! Love these antique small engine restoration videos!!! I was starting to think you weren’t going to make these type of videos anymore.
We try to keep everyone happy!!☺
That was great! You took down that motor like you did a hundred before! The motor looked so nice inside, I bet it doesn't have a lot of hours... Looking forward to this series!!!
Thanks Bud!! Yeah I haven't come across a clean one like this in a while!!☺
Lever start is a new one on me. I was blown away at how clean the inside of that engine was!
Yeah I broke it down even farther today and the cylinder is really pristine!!☺
Nice job there RK. For sure, like you said, off a reel mower. The top bracket was to hold a rod that went to the handle bars. We had an Eclipse reel mower but had the "economy" version with a rope start. No fancy lever start for my Father.....LOL Our engine was painted black, called "Putt Putt" because the smoke blew into your face.
Thanks Rob!! I have a few levers, I figured I'd get one of them running!!☺
One of my favorite youtube channels forget the queen. God save roadking!
Thanks alot Bud!!☺
@@805ROADKING Any time fella. Good day too.
Really enjoyed the venture of taking this crank start (never seen one of these before) apart....of chores you were doing all the heavy lifting or I should say pulling but you got her pretty well apart....Ill be tuned in for the next episode....CHEERS
Thanks Buddy!!☺
I recall chasing a reel type Eclipse brand mower around our VERY large farm yard as a kid in the 50s that was powered by an engine exactly like that. It was always an easy starter using the short ratcheting lever.
Fun project.
Yeah Buddy!! ☺
I had seen an engine like that and didn't know how rare it was. This will be a nice project.
Yeah they are a fun lil' engine!! A small kid can yank on that handle and it will start!!☺
Cool Project Road King! I’ve had S-K tools for 25 years, passed to me by my grandpa. That big screwdriver made me remember him. Thanks buddy!
Thanks Brandon!! That's cool!! That's the only S-K tool I have left, I use to have a deep well socket set somebody stole!!☺
If you keep doing this, the 1952 B&S 5s is gonna be one heck of buy. Shit, you've rebuilt ALL of em, might as well buy a 1952.
Let's start from the beginning
Interesting engine to restore.
Yeah Buddy!! It's something the Kiddies can play with at the Shows!!☺
That motor is RUSTY CRUSTY BABY!!!
Everytime that creepy green pointer hand comes out I lose it 😂
Yeah I love that thing, I try not to over do it though!!☺
@@805ROADKING Yeah, every once in a while is perfect. I think part of what gets me is that it appears out of nowhere when I least expect it!
That lever start is cool! This is gonna be a good project!
Thanks Bud!!☺
That air cleaner and the bracket on the head are just like the ones on the Park Hound reel mower we have.
Never seen one with a lever, so it's super rare to me. :)
Always had a problem with working on one thing at a time. Think it’s because of wait time for parts and growing impatience makes some of us move onto new projects. Weather can be an excuse, but it doesn’t take much to move onto something new. Will get back to it soon.👍👍👍
Yeah sometimes when you run into a problem it's good to move on to something else and come back to it when you feel like dealing with it!!☺
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Great video.
I like these longer teardown videos time to time. Relaxing.
Thanks Bud!!☺
Sweet. I love your series on Briggs engines, RK.
Thanks Bud!!☺
Nice little engine there Roadie! Work your Magic! Cheers! Zippy~
Definitely a fun looking way of starting the engine, right next to some finger-grabbing pulleys and all... :P
My neighbor built a go cart for his son. This was back in the 50s.I remember him cranking and cranking to start it.That lever starter didnt work well.When he finally got it going that same motor couldnt drive it.I thing that the gear ratio was too high. His second attempt was much better and I can recall getting my turn to drive it around the back yard.
Very much enjoyed the video, can not wait to see the rest.
Thanks Bud!!☺
Thank you RK. Love it
Thank YOU Buddy!!☺
those are getting hard to find King , Good looking Engine !! ENJOYED
Thanks Buddy!!☺
Hooray! :) I loves me some Briggs content ;)
52 must've been a really good year!
Yeah Buddy!! ☺
Nice video 805ROADKING hope you do more briggs rebuilds soon again : )
Thanks Pete!! We'll try!!☺
@@805ROADKING Do you know how to take the recoil cover off by any chance?. Because im gonna make a pulley to put on with a rope. But i dont know how to take it apart?...
i could maybe try to fix the recoil
Not for nothin, but you really should be using the magic hammer for that rusted out hotdog!
We might need the Magic Sledge Hammer for that!!☺
I remember working on some of those engines in the 1960's. They were on an old reel type mower.
Yeah I'm surprised more lever engines aren't around!!☺
Nice old one RK . I have one just like it running but left the old patina on it .Only sad part is the engine plate I.D. is missing .
I have a spare one you can have, it has a nice patina!! Email me your address 805ROADKING@gmail.com
I'll take whatever video you want to put out. They're all good.
Thanks alot Toad!! We appreciate you watching Bud!!☺
I'm hoping to see you at Cool Springs this year. Pretty much every engine I get lately has been built in 1951.
We should be at coolsprings if they don't cancel it!!☺
I was hoping you were going to do some bodywork on that muffler RK. lol
Cant wait to see why this one had no Compression. 👍
Awesome video thank you
36:05 before somebody knocks it over.
It ain't gonna be one of us!
Lol
Aint gonna be me.
Any time I see broken fins at the flea market I just tell the man someone must of been a DILDO or a SPLOOGE and there are millions of them around. They sell them real cheap then. The flush head bolt was made to either clearance a belt, less chance to catch something or someone, keep from over tightening the fastener. Where did you find the engine fella ??? The silvery side cover is a zinc alloy. Just like the flywheel. This engine is definitely a low hour unit. Where are you located Sir ??? Thanks and have a great day too.
I probably picked it up at a show, it's been in my shed for years!! We're from the South Jersey area!!☺
I love working on these old Briggs Engine's Roadking. I've got a model WI lever start like yours & there not too common like you were saying. I'm polishing up an aluminum shroud for it. I don't know how those air-stream trailer guys do it!!! I was just going to say that I like to hydro lock the bore or put a block of wood in there or a bunch of paper towels or rags to get the crank nut off. I don't like touching the fins if I cant help it. Awesome stuff buddy.
Thanks Bud!! I've been know to put some small rope through the spark plug hole to fill the bore!!☺
Keep up the great vids allways love em
Thanks Bud!!☺
@@805ROADKING allways a pleasure never a chore,
I have a 1951 Eclipse Rocket reel mower. It has a 5S with the lever start. It also has the same air filter.
Thanks for that information, I feel alot better knowing it's the correct one!!☺
Had to take a looks see,lol
I just picked up an Eclipse Reel mower with a hand start 5S! Locked up unfortunately.
I have one to it has a kickstarter and a air meter for carb
That sounds like it might be a WM, WMB or a WI !!☺
You don't need to put it in a vice. Put a couple holes in bench, drop some bolts through base plate.
No kidding? Thanks. I'm going to go inscribe that in the family bible.
I just found a nos one of these. Put gas in it and it fired right up
Old maytag wash machine engine??lots of them when I was a kid
Valve Job and New Rings and it will be running like a New engine....
We took it apart today, definitely a valve job but the rings look brand new!!☺
29:58 These teeth are nice too. That's the sort of part that would be made out of nylon these days, and would wear out just outside the warranty period. Of course, the replacement would be a quarter of the price of a steel one but over 70 years would cost 10 times as much.
Yeah Buddy!! ☺
Depending on the size of the lawn bet it's got at best 5 hours use a year!
Yeah I broke it down even farther and the cylinder is really pristine!!☺
I have one of those!! Mine is a 1948, on a Eclipse lawn mower, I want to rebuild it.....show me how....... it was my grandpas lawnmower, bought it at my grandmas auction, years ago, for 2 dollars. still runs, but hard to start.....want to fix that.....................love your channel...........show me how......:)
That's cool!! You paid less than I do, I'll go as high as $5!!☺
@@805ROADKING Thanks, RoadKing!
What about the hit and miss engine?
To me the date looked like 59. Could it be a later made replacement flywheel for a earlier engine ?
Yeah it doesn't look that clear in the video, it's definitely an upside down backward 5!! I've come across dozens of them done just like that, some clearer than others!! I'll try to get a good close up of it in the next video!!☺
when i was 18 (51 years ago ) i reabuilt many an engine then i wacked a 12 hp kohler 301. to removethe flywheel shaft broke before that i had no idea how cheap a flyweel puller cost. reddid hundreds since then maybe 10 cents each?
I wonder if "egg--corns" is a regional term, as I have heard it a few times by different RUclipsrs. Has anyone ever told ol' Road King that most of us call it them "acorns"?
Its pronounced ACHE-HORNS around here, but I'm a ways up from RoadKing in north Jersey.
He would I go about getting things like bearings oil seals coils piston rings ECT. For my 6s
Puller bolt is thin to leave clearance for the belt.
As I watch this dismantling,.you mentioned a 'gun' to take them apart and concern about using that to assemble. I'm in your 'camp'. Wwe sold and serviced air impact wrenches for a number of brands of air impact wrenches, and always remember that we had to test them for 'power' i.e. torque strength,...most all manufacturers will tell you that an impact wrench is a "dismantling'
tool and not an assembly tool.When you read the pounds feet rating on a lot of 'higher quality tools' you'll often see that they have two numbers of ft. lbs. The higher number is
the rating for removing fasteners, and then of course, the lower number is for tightening.
Some folks confuse an air tool by the sound it makes and think they are all 'impact' tools, in that they assume that because it makes a ratcheting sound it's impacting, in fact it is not.
I just thought I'd throw that bit of info. in for kicks!
And now,...back to ROADKING,.....
You wouldn't believe the amount of stripped threads and cross threaded studs I've had to repair over the years because some people don't know how to use power tools!!☺
@@805ROADKING ....and wheel studs broken off or stripped out,..and in a few cases 'service calls' to try to remove a grossly over tightened wheel lug nut! ah well...
Old school Roadking content. good stuff. Where do you find all these old engines? I don't ever seem to see them for sale, however I'm also not actively looking for them.
@Krankie V He attends a lot of engine shows/meets.
@@crazyfvck ah yeah I hadn't thought of that. He goes to those all the time
I ain't never seen a starter like that. She's in pretty good shape eh?
Yeah Buddy!! I haven't come across a clean one like this in a while!!☺
52' that's not Antique, hell I was born in 51' and I'm a Spring Chicken! What about you RoadKing? Dig the small engine madness! .. Newk from Kentucky
You're not an antique, you're a relic!!☺
Hurry up with part 2!
Lol!! That's funny!!☺
805ROADKING seriously, get wit it, chop chop.
made me late for work again lol,bloody time zones,
Sorry Mate!!☺
date code marks are replacable in the big tool and usually made in house by tool makers. somebody got lazy and could not find the '2' punch
PS I watch your channel for the machine refurbish / create stuff. you guys are not afraid of anything
Thanks Bud!! It's tough to find time to create new stuff any more!!☺
Beats the s*** out of a pull start start your lawn mower like a motorcycle
Yeah Buddy!! ☺
KROIL IS THE BEST, a little heat , and then Kroil , heat will help it draw in.
Hey Bob, I have an I.D. plate you can have!! Email me your address!! I put my email in your other comment but it must have gone to your spam!! here's my email, just print it the correct way!! 805ROADKING (at) gmail (dot) com
Gaasket aint even chipped anywhere.
I have a question for you ROADKING, that Air grinder with the wire wheel on it,..what make is that one, please?
I meed one for my shop and I'm in the market so I don't want a cheap 10 dollar one, I'd like to have a 'quality' air tool, if you can help me .
That was an Ingersoll Rand mini 301!! All my air tools are IR or Chicago Pneumatic!! I probably own a few dozen of them and in 50 years never had one fail!!☺
@@805ROADKING Good enough,...thanks . I have been looking at a 'CP' ( a real CP that is! ) SO I'll go have a closer look at that one now,..Thanks again.
What's the difference between a 5s and a 6s and is the 6s rare? I have one
The only difference is the Stroke!! The 5s has an 1½" stroke, the 6s has a 2" stroke!! The 5s is 1HP, the 6s is 1½HP!! Visually the 5s has 5 cooling fins, the 6s has 6!! The 6s is nothing special and isn't rare, however they did make alot more 5s'!!☺
@@805ROADKING cool thanks for all the info
I've never seen a lever start before.
Indeed.
I truly hope that mustie1 is watching this video
That old engine runs clockwise i see u checking the spark an u wer turning it counter clockwise.
I think the owner of the engine hadn't thought about carbon build up. To me that's the reason they stopped using the machine. Just my thoughts.
A "Reel" lawn mower engine.
Yeah Buddy!! ☺
that was made almost a month after my dad was born. he's baby new year 1952
That engine is a bit older than I am. (1952)
You don't know how long the video is,lol. It's long Road but a good one
They're all good Mate, some are just better than others!!☺
sure dont see many lever starts. ive got a lever start Wi
Dang I’m the first view! Nice. Lol. Looking forward to it buddy!
Thanks Bud!!☺
Googled pictures: www.google.com/search?q=eclipse+mower&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS827US827&oq=eclipse+mower&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l7.6229j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
i have a 5hp N complete laying outside if you need or want it give me a call.might be wrong on date.
Thanks Mike!! I appreciate the offer, it would cost more to ship it than it is worth!! I already have a couple of "N's" in the shed loft I'll probably never do anything with!!☺
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Dang I thought I was. Lol.
mabey the guy lost the 2 that day
Hey I messaged you about few years back if you had any extra carburetors lying around for one of those Briggs engines. ( model-6s ) ( type-701095 ) ( serial#-856473 ) please send a message back, would really like this one to work right
I got back to you and said, give me your address and I would send you one but I never heard back from you!! Maybe my reply went in your spam!!☺
805ROADKING it could’ve, maybe that’s why I haven’t received a message from you before,
805ROADKING how can I send a message to you privately
Go to my channel and my Email address is on the ABOUT page
805ROADKING one quick question, how far are you from Fazio’s steel I’ll be heading there today