The only thing that pisses me off are Premier League fanboys being arrogant, so it tastes good when an English club gets eliminated from a continental competition.
@@thandowriting5120 they truly are destroying excitement for ucl matches and suck the fun out of it. they also are really nonsensical considering that players and coaches made in other leagues are dominating epl, among other facts to rebute them 🤣
I'm so tired of this argument, that english teams can not rest their players and because of that are not dominating Europe. They literally have twice the money as any other league and can easily buy loads of more quality players. These excuses are just pathetic.
@@franzburisch5280 I agree but clubs buying top class backups for every position doesn’t really happen, even city who spend a ridiculous amount of money don’t have 2 top players in each position
The rest of the world hates the arrogance of English fans. The “Brighton would win Serie A” thing is an example of the nonsense that non-Prem football fans hate. The quality in the top 5 leagues is basically the same. The Premier league is the best but not by much. Results in European competitions will showcase this to you.
I watch matches from BL and EPL. On average I find the EPL matches more entertaining. This makes it the best league for me. English arrogance and their subsequent bottle jobs in European and international competitions is just the icing on the cake 😂
The f would say Brighton would win that nahh 😂😂😂😂😂 Nigga I am a prem fan and I even know that ain't happening I know only prob man city arsenal and Liverpool would do that easy but nah brighton now imagine Tottenham Aston villa and more
@@SlidingSilvaLiverpool wouldn't They lost against Atlanta 😂😂😂😂 La liga is the best league in the world Not very entertaining but la liga teams play good football
@@kudabanda13 bro real Madrid drew with rb Leipzig a team man city beat 5-0 same thing bro it doesn't matter I'd they got swallowed by small teams cuz they underestimated them firstly Secondly they were having a fight and thirdly fans were too confident so confident most of them didn't watch the match to makethe home adv kick in Bro laliga ain shit to epl Where have you seen a team suddenly rise from lowest league beat all expectations and go to the top of the chains More suprise More money Many more better players More challenge More audience And list keeps going buddy
It is probably the best league in recent years, but fans are crazy delusional. There was a poll how would PSG do, and some suggested 8th place and one comment said Aston Villa is stronger than Barcelona. Turns out Villa is not stronger than Olympiacos.
To be fair, PSG have been shit in the Champions League almost every year despite spending ludicrous money, so I don't think it's unreasonable for people to assume they'd be shit this year too.
@@hellohellohellohellohello-h5l are u dumb ? PSG always secured at least a spot in semifinals in the last 5 years more than a lot of clubs. PSG was predominantly present in UCL.
For me it's not an excuse if you have more domestic cup competitions. Deal with it or get rid of the Carabao Cup and you have more freetime. But you need the money grap so you play it anyway.
Agree. As if other leagues are at fault for that. Also how about using the absurd amount of money PL teams have at their disposal to improve team depth, as Seria A teams historically did
CARABAO cup is a good money deal for lower leaguesand championship; Not at all for premier league. Rather, it is one of the beautiful things about prem. In la liga all the money flows to barca and madrid while the distribution is better and has been better in the prem
@@MummyNapkin970 Precisely. A squad like Man city is absolutely one of the strongest because you can argue the entire bench has the potential to also start the games as well. A team like UTD doesn't have proper subs for their forwards (especially the striker, i don't even remember who subs in for Højlund to play). Like damn, this is a team that has one the league before, surely they could buy a back up forward?
Farmers league used to mean a league, where one team wins all the titles and bc of that farms titles (like Bayern and PSG). Nowadays ppl just call weak leagues that and it's weird
Calling any league a farmers league kind of typically comes from people who want to think their league is better. The phrase is stupid to begin with, especially once you look at what Manchester City is doing which would make any league a "farmers league" now.
@@dekulites Better than an overrated oil league in which it´s farming champion can cheat 115 times (without repercussion) and still be crowned champion.
1:29 I'm Brazilian and I had no idea the gap was that big, and there's a club that played 79 matches in a single season and we're still dominating continental competitions. wat?
Especially because people use the term entirely wrong from when it emerged. Farming in 'farmers league' comes from video game culture. Not from actual fking agriculture.
It makes me sad to think that clubs like Red Star or Steaua București conquering Europe will probably never happen again as their leagues don’t see a fraction of the money we see
Or massive clubs like rangers and Celtic never winning in Europe again. With Celtic being the first British club to win the European cup (The Champions League).
Yeah that's why a NBA like super league is needed in Europe. But people love their domestic leagues so much which is understandable but the fans need to decide. Fair financial competition in Europe or domestic leagues
I don't think anyone genuienly thinks the Premier League is a farmers league (at least I hope so). I think this is just people making fun of these unbearable Prem fans who think the Prem is the only league that matters in football
well i donte like the term farmers league but under the conception that the shity prem fans set them selfs its a term to discribe a one team league witch the prem is
Having offseasons can happen to any nation, for a counter example - Serie A had one team in each final of the european cups last year (all lost) and one of the two semifinals in the CL being the Milan-Inter derby. Most people here in Italy thought that our league was finally back to its former glory, only to be proven wrong AGAIN this year with the disastrous runs in the CL from Inter, Milan, Napoli and Lazio. And yes, while in the EL and ECL Roma and Fiorentina are still running up for the competitions I'm quite certain they will not win, because Serie A's level is extremely low, we just have what other league don't: defending.
3 teams in European competitions is nothing to get snobbish about, even if all of the Italian teams are out of the CL. The English have got just 1 left, and also 0 in the CL yet finding all sorts of excuses.
@@oldskoolmusicnostalgia where was I snobbish? I said that our level is not as high as some people here in Italy thought, and I was proving that offseasons (or, in Italy's case, special seasons like last year's) can happen to any other major league. What's important to understand is that european competitions are also extremely situational, if every puzzle piece fits where they should you can get an insane european run, or not.
I know right. He goes on about Italian and Spanis dominance but forgets that the other countries hate England. When we were absolutely dominating the CL they banned us to stop it, took 20 years to recover. And now we are back theyre moaning again.
@patrickhauser588 What you on about? Im saying England dominated the competition in the late 70s. They won 7 out of the 8 europeans cups before they were conveniently banned in 1985. It seriously set English football back and only recently have they returned to the level they were at then. It took 15 years for an English club to win it again, and 20 years to really recover their coefficient.
The main issue is that "farmers league" is a stupid and ignorant term to begin with. Also the definition changes every time to fit the narrative of the person currently using it. For me it is simple: the only way to somehow compare leagues is european competition.
England has most ucl winnings teams in a single league, Spain have barca, Madrid, bundesliga have bayern dortmund and hamburg. Italy have inter, ac Milan and juventus. However England has Chelsea, man city, man United, forest, Liverpool. England have the best history, Spain not this season but others have been a battle between 3 clubs, Germany apart from this season has been a battle with 2 clubs, Italy is the only one here in Europe top 5 that truly isn't a farmers, all these leagues however have been swept away with 1 or 2 contenders, however in the premier it has been a neck and neck 3 horse race between arsenal Liverpool and City which dropping points could end a run, Liverpool proved this and its arsenal city in the race, England is the only league of the ones I mentioned that hasn't already got a confirmed winner
100% Farmers League as a term has changed and morphs constantly simply as a way to put others down. It originally was used to describe leagues where some teams were made up of part-time players (example, farmers), so it was much easier. Now people say it's a farmers league when a team wins it a lot....stupid.
The EPL gets more TV money, but mainly because there are more English speaking people to watch it and not necessarily because it is better. It always got more TV money - even when the league was much worse than other Big 5. The question is whether the TV money translates into better quality. It allows you to buy more quality players but it also makes you complacent in player development and in tactics. That's why EPL teams usually fail on tactics. The intensity of top teams is comparable in Europe. If it was higher in the EPL, then English teams would dominate their European competition, but with the exception of oligarch/oil clubs most English clubs do not stand a chance of winning in Europe. Manchester City is therefore comparable to PSG in France. They are not in their position because of the league quality or TV money, but because of extreme cash injections from shady owners. The Spanish and German clubs are usually owned by non-profit organisations that do not inject billions into players which - on the upside - keeps the wages and transfer fees lower, while those costs are artificially inflated in England. That's why players in England are more expensive than in other countries. Regarding the winter break: In some countries this was introduced decades ago simply because the conditions were too bad to play. The winter in England is much milder than in e.g. Germany or Sweden. The risk of injury at negative degrees and in bad conditions was deemed too high. I doubt this has a big influence on Champions League Performance at the end of the season.
Well we are becoming a farmers league, 115 FC might as well get given the trophy before a ball is even kicked. Our media & pundits have this sheer arrogance of hyping up how great our league is but let’s be realistic, we get humiliated in Europe most of the time when we face top teams. Only Aston Villa are the English representatives in any European competition. People use “fixture congestion” & “injuries” as excuses but let’s be real, you need to be playing consistently to maintain fitness & getting up to scratch. The Premier League has the most money but hardly the best in the world. Give me the Serie A of the 90s/00s over this current Premier League decade all day long!
@@Mr_Ri386 Man these fake watchers with 0 knowledge just suck... Brighton had 12 starting players injured and have the strongest injured XI in europe against a Roma on the rise winning 5 in a row with new manager no or few starting XI injured, and roma is really good right now they even smashed AC Milan in EL last week so context bud. Maybe first european campaign but certainly not the last, if anything Man U was the big embarrassement for PL crashing out in one of the easiest groups.
It’s just one season. To support that hypothesis you would need to look at it over a 5 season time frame. There was a time in the 1990s when English clubs were dire in Europe (although I think there was a bad at one point to be fair) but that’s not the case anymore.
nobody really thinks the premier league is bad. They are just really arrogant and ignorant, thats why people poke fun at them. They pretend them having the best marketing in europe is not due to their default language being english, plus they talk about history and heritage like they didnt get bought by oil sheikhs and are a playball for international politics.
I think one of the problems is there aren't enough team's with a winning mentality. City has one 5 out 7 titles and it gives only City a winning mentality. They know what it means to win a league. Sure the English were poor this year but when we had Borrusia/Bayern and Juve/Milan in UCL finals, all teams had winning mentalities from winning leagues and international trophies
I hate Man U, but they were the Real Madrid of the premier league, the fact for over 10 years the "biggest club" in the prem revenue wise has been so mismanaged means the slightly smaller clubs have to take up the mantle. Imagine La Liga if Real Madrid suddenly forgot how to win, the league would lose much european prestige.
The premier league has the hghest floor but the ceiling hasn't necessarily been raised. This year though, the 3 headed tittle race costed them on europea. Liverpool and Arsenal are looking knackered because they literally cannot loose a single Game to he able to Challenger city so they are oobligated to play allá the starters every Game.
English schedule is brutal. EPL teams got FA, Carabao, League and Champions/ Europa. Lower divisions got the same just replace Champions with that motor oil cup or whatever it's called.
The reason why Serie A being the best league in the world back in 80s and 90s was not all about the Champions League success. During the same period, there were at least 1 club from Serie A making through the now-defunct UEFA Cup Winners Cup and the UEFA Cup/Europa League Finals. In the UEFA Cup Winners Cup, the likes of Sampdoria, Parma, and Lazio won at least once. In the UEFA Cup, it's even better. Excluding the 1996 Final, which was between Bayern Munich and Bordeaux, there were at least 1 Serie A club featured in the Final between 1989 and 1999. 4 of those 10 Finals were an all-Italian affairs, although it wasn't until 2003 that an all-Italian Final happened in the Champions League between Juventus and Milan, who were the only Serie A clubs that had won the Champions League in 1980s and 1990s. Also, Aston Villa lost to Olympiacos in the Conference League semifinal. Seems like the PL is the most overrated league in Europe.
as a german we always considered italy to be our top rival, in recent years france. england has never really been up there. heck, even a germany vs netherlands game draws more intensity from the crowd
Premier league is not farmers technically because yes man city won a lot of premier league in recent time ( with Liverpool only winning it in 19-20). They are not as dominant in the premier league as lets say psg in ligue 1 or even juventus in serie a at some point. The point gap is not as large. Point gap between psg and second place have been huge like we are talking around 10 to even more.
Based on the way that 'farmers league' is used by Prem-Heads all of the time, the EPL is currently a Farmers League. Hilarious poetic justice for their arrogance.
6:10 don't get this argument. Roma are fifth in the Serie A table, and for the first Europa League tie, fielded a relatively healthy squad with both star players Lukaku and Dybala starting, the only big miss being Tammy Abraham. Brighton are currently twelfth in the Premier League table, and are currently going through one of the worst injury crisis of the current decade. They were missing their star wingers Mitoma and March, the top Europa League goalscorer Pedro, and had to play with unfit fullback Estupinan, and many more injuries and fitness crises on top of that. It was Roma's game to win.
Yes, but according to prem fans (like in that video) Brighton should have easily beaten Roma as they 'could win Serie A or at least get top 4'. Regardless of injuries, that statement is clearly stupidity personified.
@@timidstein888 which Prem fans? Pretty much all of us Brighton fans knew going into the match that we were the underdogs. You do understand plastics and 'podcasters' with zero ball knowledge don't represent the majority of the Prem fans?
@@spinyslasher6586 I'm glad there are logical ones out there. I know it's not all, but it's a pretty overwhelming group of online fans and pundits who overrate the prem league.
The main impression is created by English players being rated much more valuable than the rest o the world. that's just because they have better contracts what makes compensation higher automatically, but also because they have a rule about at least having 8 English players in the team, what makes the fight about talents even worse
And then idiot football fans getting fooled by UEFA and FIFA and “save the football” from super league but more than happy to have 20 More maningless games each year cause it UEFA or FIFA who are in charge
Id say the premier league has more physically strong players and make more sprints but other than that it’s not much different other than maybe how slower they play in other leagues
I wouldn't mind if teams in europe didn't play in the league Cup, winner gets the conference league spot. At least then championship tes can compete more for a trophy and there us a new team in europe every season, or at least a team that wasn't in the season before
in the best way possible i swear this guy has the exact same editing style as maqwell. i could just be attributing a common editing style to a certain guy tho which is dumb
I don't think Farmers League means a league with teams struggling in Europe. Usually used to refer to a boring league where 1 single team dominates everything with no competition
Three different EPL clubs were amongst the winners of the last five champions leagues. Two of those finals were all EPL and different clubs at that. What are you guys on about ????
The difference between the pl and others farmers we have a title top 4 top 6 and relegation races all through the season coming down to the past few games of the season
That other leagues have a whole cup less and a winter break is not something set in place to get a competitive advantage in european cups. It's simply a historic thing. The PL does their extra cup purely out of greed. They also have significantly bigger squads to offset the loads. Overall it's kind of stupid to compare the different leagues with each other. Apples and pears.
100%. Prem only fans need to read up about the Illusionary Truth Effect. The hard facts prove that they're not far ahead of any other top league other than in money and marketing. The past couple seasons of European Football prove this.
@@timidstein888 I mean yesterday we saw it again, unbeaten Leverkusen lost to p5 of the serie A, Atalanta also beat Liverpool before. You can't have a bad day against any first league opponent.
English clubs have way more money and spend more money on players. They should be able to deal with the extra games. The point is they are bad at spending their money and bad at building squads. They are tactically behind as well. That's why they historically don't do well in Europe despite the financial advantage, though they had more success recently than in the 2010s when their record was diesmal
"The most dominant run in Champion's League history doesn't belong to the Premier League" - Villa, Forest, and Liverpool won the European cup six out of seven years in the period 1977- 1984. That is definitively the most dominant period in the history of Europe's premier club football competition
City, Liverpool and Chelsea have carried the PL in Europe for 10 years. Now even Chelsea and Liverpool are in decline and City are compromised by the charges hanging over them. The rest of our league can barely get beyond the last 16 of the Europa league or beat average German and Italian leagues. Our media employ mediocre pundits, low iq ex-players and failed managers who speak in cliches saying our league's the best in the world because a keystone cops game ends 4-3. Anyone capable of a broader view of European leagues and teams doesn't get a voice and our sports media only cater to the small-minded cliche spouting demographic of fans, on some radio outlets they prefer them to be slightly inebriated before they allow them on air.
Btw Madrid has 16 injuried player many if them key players, and 2 of them long term injuries being one of them the keeper that is one of the differetial players for them
Prem is the best marketed league. Casuals think it's the best quality because it's chaotic, but the quality of football is far higher on the continent.
Well that's not true at all. 😂 Premier League is the highest quality league, it determines a lot of the transfer market and makes more money than the Champions League. The Champions League is overrated, tbh.
i personally think the prem is the best league not because it is better as it has the best teams in the world, but the competitiveness across the league is the most even out of the top 5 leagues. the most points between two teams in the league or 7 points and that's between the very bottom team, the relegation battle, then the top 5 teams currently in the league. every other league has more points separating teams which in most cases was the first place team. calling the prem a farmers league is only a valid argument if you consider their success in Europe which I think is only is only so bad because you cant take one team in the league easy or they will punish you.
I'd argue Serie A is more evenly competative. Four different winners in 5 years, the top 10 are all fairly even, and even relegated teams (like Sassuolo this year) beat Inter twice.
City played non stop since late march while Real Madrid played since what 3 games in april, and don't even think about their title challenger this year. The english FA is really that cruel
i mean you talked about something different here... you talked about "is the premier league the best/ overhyped" also nice topic but Farmers means something completely different
It's not the best but the most enjoyable to watch. I can actually watch bottom league teams play and still enjoy it. Can't do that w the Laliga or BPL.
I made this case thousand times since 2006 when PL fans star growing, bc for all the 90's child Italy and Spain where always the top tier teams, the thing is and i believe with my heart on it the lack TACTICS !!! i know is a controversial topic, but follow me here, before europe change the status bc of BOSMAN LAW, then the leagues flooded europe with young talent from south america, that amount of pure, exquisite talent, technique, pass, dribbling, etc changed all of the dynamics of the game. The two Leagues who where the first to bring players from south where La liga and Serie A (Mostly bc cultural ties, almost everybody in wouth speaks spanish or some old grandads are italians), then the people saw real magicians in the field every single game, that forced to all teams to focus on full tactis to stop these monsters. Premier League never has experienced any Romario, Ronaldo, Messi, Ronaldinho, Kaká. Zidane, Baggio, etc multiple teams having multiple god tier stars and teams in your own domestic league for years... that creates a change in the way your own team grows. Then the english way of football: Fast runs, crossings, long shots, and physical streght. Has real trouble when faces styles like tiki taka or chaotic runs ,etc. Every other league evolved to some kind of "mixture" of styles, meanwhile, UK as usual, they didnt look in south america, they choose talent from his older colonies: Africa. The English football and the USA MLS in strange fashion they "think" the game alike, they think the game as a endurance test, not like South Americans or Spain or Italy ( We see the game as players around spaces and times) the Anglo way es less refined: "We need faster and younger wingers, stronger defence, taller GK to make and absolute endurance beast we call a team" .... Meanwhile other see the football as beauty, poetry, art, opera, patience,etc " we run when needed, we attack when the rival is careless about space or when the time is set" thats why other leagues have less intensity but manage to win over PL teams, its bc of tactis. Obviusly Klopp, Pep, Mourinho, etc try to change that style, but the England is very attached to his own tradition and historical style. Thats why the England always loose with the National Team, great players, bad tactis bc english "old school" tactis is truly outdated.
I wholeheartedly agree that they’re farmers. English teams are all evenly matched and overhyped. When you go to Italian or Spanish football, it’s a lot different. Liverpool are use to playing wolves, burnley and Sheffield every week. If you drop a random team like AS Roma or Villarreal on them, they won’t know how to react to that. Football styles change when you move around Europe, it’s not all the same. In my opinion, Spanish football has always been the most elite, it’s just that Barca and Madrid are so good, you don’t get to see Real Sociedad and Real Betis get a chance.
If we are talking european front , they are improving i mean last season west ham and man city won european cups. This season , however , have been abysmal . Man utd grouped while losing to a danish team 4-3 and guess what copenhagen is not even first in the danish league rn , newcastle got grouped even if they battered psg in their group , brighton got battered by roma , Liverpool got absolutely slapped by atalanta ( 6th in serie a btw ) , man city loses to real , west ham beaten by the might leverkusen. Only aston villa remains here. Lets not forget the best arsenal side in a while losing to the worst bayern team in the last decade. Yeah you got my point here
The scoreline dosent reflect the performance, against madrid city clearly played better but real Madrid ended up lucking out on pens, this isn't downplaying their win im just stating that city played better which they did
I thought "Farmer's league" also means that these leagues produces good players which can be bought by all the super rich oil, billionaire and hedge funds clubs from the Premier league. In that way even if Bundesliga and Serie A are stronger this season, they still will have no chance against the financial might of the "not that good" Premier league.
Gents my statement will not change, most ppl these days throw around the term farmers league and then disregard the quote on quote "farmers league' with little realization and knowledge about the fine margins that exists, the actual amount of competition, how good the almost unknown players or aka "bad players" and all the tactics battles going on in a games and I bet phone that 98% of ppl have not seen more than 10 highlights let alone watch watch a full game of a " farmers league" people forget about the Premier League and La liga because of their brandings and popularity in conversations and all the competitions they are involved in, I even know people that don't know more than 6 teams in la liga which is crazy, the word farmer league is actually just another way to insult the lower level of competition in other leagues besides the Premier League of course and you do have to remember that the Premier League more specifically the big six of the Premier League buys up great players from other leagues then either waist their potential or use them with no garenttee that their futures in their respective clubs will be sustainable and this long comment I typed should actually be considered every time a league or a player in a less financial fortunate club is getting disrespect or disregarded and majorly underappreciated.
The Premier League is a farmer league, yet is the only one of the top five leagues to have had a genuine title race this season… We’re now going into gameweek 36 with Arsenal & Man City virtually level; Make it make sense?!
How is a league better than others that has only one team winning it one after other, where clubs that doesn't belong to any of the fans spend millions and millions and barely make it in europe. Now they all are out including 115. Now what?
You get away with more clutching grabbing and fouling in the PL, seems the PL players do not adjust for European competition where those tactics are not as tolerated.
None of the major European leagues are farmers leagues any more, especially now that Leverkusen won the BL…. The concept of a farmers league is really disrespectful, as people usually take it to devalue the average skill in the league. Meanwhile the PL isn’t exactly better than even the BL they just spend more money at the cost of real poorer fans. German managers are so successful because they learned how to do great things on a small budget… Let’s just respect each league for the things it is best at…
Yeah Ligue 1 with PSG is not farmers league... They even can win the League with 1 hand and focusing in other competition... Others France clubs priorities money over trophy, doesn't care about competition, the real competition is to take 2nd in league and go to champions league to make more money and selling players of course...
The issue with the Prem fan boys is that they're not even British. You can tell just by how much the overseas fans meat ride the product. I watch the Prem only because I'm a Londoner born and bred but the Bundesliga is a more enjoyable product. I've been to Bayern, Frankfurt, Union Berlin & Koln and it's a better match day experience than any English club, the players actually care about the fans too
Knockout football is massively different to league football and as Englishman when it comes to knockout football England are bad. This seems to extend to our league
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The only thing that pisses me off are Premier League fanboys being arrogant, so it tastes good when an English club gets eliminated from a continental competition.
They are even more ignorant than arrogant 🤣 it's hysterical
As a Liverpool fan I agree, it’s got me falling out of love for football
Well said
@@thandowriting5120 they truly are destroying excitement for ucl matches and suck the fun out of it. they also are really nonsensical considering that players and coaches made in other leagues are dominating epl, among other facts to rebute them 🤣
@@ThomasSamoth-ls8edNobody cares about coaches
I'm so tired of this argument, that english teams can not rest their players and because of that are not dominating Europe. They literally have twice the money as any other league and can easily buy loads of more quality players. These excuses are just pathetic.
FFP exists
@@bf4lvr
How does this affect my argument? When you have twice the incomings you can spend twice the money.
@@franzburisch5280 I agree but clubs buying top class backups for every position doesn’t really happen, even city who spend a ridiculous amount of money don’t have 2 top players in each position
@@bf4lvr Does it? 😅
@@bf4lvr than how is City still in the PL?
The rest of the world hates the arrogance of English fans. The “Brighton would win Serie A” thing is an example of the nonsense that non-Prem football fans hate. The quality in the top 5 leagues is basically the same. The Premier league is the best but not by much. Results in European competitions will showcase this to you.
I watch matches from BL and EPL. On average I find the EPL matches more entertaining. This makes it the best league for me. English arrogance and their subsequent bottle jobs in European and international competitions is just the icing on the cake 😂
@@TheHesseJames Rent free
The f would say Brighton would win that nahh 😂😂😂😂😂
Nigga I am a prem fan and I even know that ain't happening
I know only prob man city arsenal and Liverpool would do that easy but nah brighton now imagine Tottenham Aston villa and more
@@SlidingSilvaLiverpool wouldn't
They lost against Atlanta 😂😂😂😂
La liga is the best league in the world
Not very entertaining but la liga teams play good football
@@kudabanda13 bro real Madrid drew with rb Leipzig a team man city beat 5-0 same thing bro it doesn't matter I'd they got swallowed by small teams cuz they underestimated them firstly
Secondly they were having a fight and thirdly fans were too confident so confident most of them didn't watch the match to makethe home adv kick in
Bro laliga ain shit to epl
Where have you seen a team suddenly rise from lowest league beat all expectations and go to the top of the chains
More suprise
More money
Many more better players
More challenge
More audience
And list keeps going buddy
It is probably the best league in recent years, but fans are crazy delusional. There was a poll how would PSG do, and some suggested 8th place and one comment said Aston Villa is stronger than Barcelona. Turns out Villa is not stronger than Olympiacos.
I think Sheffield United would win the Serie A, for sure
To be fair, PSG have been shit in the Champions League almost every year despite spending ludicrous money, so I don't think it's unreasonable for people to assume they'd be shit this year too.
@@hellohellohellohellohello-h5l are u dumb ? PSG always secured at least a spot in semifinals in the last 5 years more than a lot of clubs.
PSG was predominantly present in UCL.
Lmao pissg would never ever do good in premier league and I’m not even a premier league fan
@@axesus6966psg would finish 4th or 3rd
For me it's not an excuse if you have more domestic cup competitions. Deal with it or get rid of the Carabao Cup and you have more freetime. But you need the money grap so you play it anyway.
Agree. As if other leagues are at fault for that. Also how about using the absurd amount of money PL teams have at their disposal to improve team depth, as Seria A teams historically did
CARABAO cup is a good money deal for lower leaguesand championship; Not at all for premier league. Rather, it is one of the beautiful things about prem. In la liga all the money flows to barca and madrid while the distribution is better and has been better in the prem
@@MummyNapkin970 Precisely. A squad like Man city is absolutely one of the strongest because you can argue the entire bench has the potential to also start the games as well. A team like UTD doesn't have proper subs for their forwards (especially the striker, i don't even remember who subs in for Højlund to play). Like damn, this is a team that has one the league before, surely they could buy a back up forward?
Farmers league used to mean a league, where one team wins all the titles and bc of that farms titles (like Bayern and PSG). Nowadays ppl just call weak leagues that and it's weird
Before PSG, Lyon won 8 consecutive league titles between 2000-2008.
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Since Pep the premier league is boring af as well. English fans just dont wanna see it
So basically Man CIty in Premier League?
Calling any league a farmers league kind of typically comes from people who want to think their league is better. The phrase is stupid to begin with, especially once you look at what Manchester City is doing which would make any league a "farmers league" now.
PL being the best league dosnt stop it from being a farmers league and extremely overrated
Ironic
Bayernsliga fan
@@dekulites Better than an overrated oil league in which it´s farming champion can cheat 115 times (without repercussion) and still be crowned champion.
@@Umar-iv4iw Actually not. If anything the Bundesliga is extremely underrated
@@dekulitesyour dumb
1:29 I'm Brazilian and I had no idea the gap was that big, and there's a club that played 79 matches in a single season and we're still dominating continental competitions. wat?
@adoc4015 In the last 5 years a Brazilian club has won the copa libertadores every year
As a German i can Confirm PL is the farmers League now lmao
Cyprus is a farmers' league.
Bosnia is a farmers' league.
The bundesliga and the premier league will never be farmers' leagues.
Farmers league is a term that makes me cringe in general. It basically is a word that exposes anyone who uses it for having no ball knowledge
farmers are hard and honest workers.
Especially because people use the term entirely wrong from when it emerged. Farming in 'farmers league' comes from video game culture. Not from actual fking agriculture.
It's such a shame 20th in PL gets more revenue than 1st in La Liga
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Well that's because la liga was rigged to give all the money to real and barca
That's called marketing
It's because they play in a better league
tv renenue maybe, but overall revenue definetly not. Real is in the top 3 cluby sorted by revenue.
It makes me sad to think that clubs like Red Star or Steaua București conquering Europe will probably never happen again as their leagues don’t see a fraction of the money we see
Or massive clubs like rangers and Celtic never winning in Europe again. With Celtic being the first British club to win the European cup (The Champions League).
@@defectedboss529 I felt bad for rangers losing that europa final, even though I prefer celtic
@@bf4lvr Yeah thanks to an ex premier league player in Aaron Ramsey, missing a penalty. maybe they are all farmers 🤷♂️
@@bf4lvr i danced an irish jig that night
Yeah that's why a NBA like super league is needed in Europe. But people love their domestic leagues so much which is understandable but the fans need to decide. Fair financial competition in Europe or domestic leagues
ong this guys videos are so good
underrated as hell
this channel so underrated
fr i followed him before 5k
Fr
He doesn't even know what a "farmers' league" is.
@@lukemclellan2141 fr
Brighton could go top 4 in other league? What a joke, obviously these guys didn't watch football from other leagues 😆
Brighton and it's manager is so overrated it's scary
I don't think anyone genuienly thinks the Premier League is a farmers league (at least I hope so). I think this is just people making fun of these unbearable Prem fans who think the Prem is the only league that matters in football
well i donte like the term farmers league but under the conception that the shity prem fans set them selfs its a term to discribe a one team league witch the prem is
A top five league in Europe cannot be considered a farmers' league.
The distorted "definition" of the term is baffling.
Having offseasons can happen to any nation, for a counter example - Serie A had one team in each final of the european cups last year (all lost) and one of the two semifinals in the CL being the Milan-Inter derby. Most people here in Italy thought that our league was finally back to its former glory, only to be proven wrong AGAIN this year with the disastrous runs in the CL from Inter, Milan, Napoli and Lazio. And yes, while in the EL and ECL Roma and Fiorentina are still running up for the competitions I'm quite certain they will not win, because Serie A's level is extremely low, we just have what other league don't: defending.
3 teams in European competitions is nothing to get snobbish about, even if all of the Italian teams are out of the CL. The English have got just 1 left, and also 0 in the CL yet finding all sorts of excuses.
@@oldskoolmusicnostalgia where was I snobbish? I said that our level is not as high as some people here in Italy thought, and I was proving that offseasons (or, in Italy's case, special seasons like last year's) can happen to any other major league.
What's important to understand is that european competitions are also extremely situational, if every puzzle piece fits where they should you can get an insane european run, or not.
hope the italian football will come back soon. Both the clubs and national team. You have so many great clubs that I like to watch. 🇩🇪🤝🇮🇹
0:29 damn that image is so wrong, Walker had Vini in his pocket for 120 min.
The Reason English clubs didnt compete for the champions league from 1985 was because they were banned after the Heysel disaster for up to 6 years
And after that they sold everything to russians and saudis.
I know right. He goes on about Italian and Spanis dominance but forgets that the other countries hate England. When we were absolutely dominating the CL they banned us to stop it, took 20 years to recover. And now we are back theyre moaning again.
@@user-sc9oy1kz8gyou weren't dominating the first 20 years ajd the last 10 years.
@patrickhauser588 What you on about? Im saying England dominated the competition in the late 70s. They won 7 out of the 8 europeans cups before they were conveniently banned in 1985. It seriously set English football back and only recently have they returned to the level they were at then. It took 15 years for an English club to win it again, and 20 years to really recover their coefficient.
The main issue is that "farmers league" is a stupid and ignorant term to begin with. Also the definition changes every time to fit the narrative of the person currently using it. For me it is simple: the only way to somehow compare leagues is european competition.
Nah, premier is a farmers league. that's it
England has most ucl winnings teams in a single league, Spain have barca, Madrid, bundesliga have bayern dortmund and hamburg. Italy have inter, ac Milan and juventus. However England has Chelsea, man city, man United, forest, Liverpool. England have the best history, Spain not this season but others have been a battle between 3 clubs, Germany apart from this season has been a battle with 2 clubs, Italy is the only one here in Europe top 5 that truly isn't a farmers, all these leagues however have been swept away with 1 or 2 contenders, however in the premier it has been a neck and neck 3 horse race between arsenal Liverpool and City which dropping points could end a run, Liverpool proved this and its arsenal city in the race, England is the only league of the ones I mentioned that hasn't already got a confirmed winner
@@TKRLeague the last 6 PL seasons had City win it 5 times, and they are gonna win it again this year
I bet you’re great fun at parties
100% Farmers League as a term has changed and morphs constantly simply as a way to put others down. It originally was used to describe leagues where some teams were made up of part-time players (example, farmers), so it was much easier. Now people say it's a farmers league when a team wins it a lot....stupid.
Love the channel, keep the work! Support from Brazil
I don’t think you understand the concept of a “farmer’s league.” 🤭
Short answer: Yes, they are.
Long answer: Yes, they are.
No
@@eavyeavy2864 cope
Theres not a single fact to prove it
The EPL gets more TV money, but mainly because there are more English speaking people to watch it and not necessarily because it is better. It always got more TV money - even when the league was much worse than other Big 5. The question is whether the TV money translates into better quality. It allows you to buy more quality players but it also makes you complacent in player development and in tactics. That's why EPL teams usually fail on tactics.
The intensity of top teams is comparable in Europe. If it was higher in the EPL, then English teams would dominate their European competition, but with the exception of oligarch/oil clubs most English clubs do not stand a chance of winning in Europe. Manchester City is therefore comparable to PSG in France. They are not in their position because of the league quality or TV money, but because of extreme cash injections from shady owners. The Spanish and German clubs are usually owned by non-profit organisations that do not inject billions into players which - on the upside - keeps the wages and transfer fees lower, while those costs are artificially inflated in England. That's why players in England are more expensive than in other countries.
Regarding the winter break: In some countries this was introduced decades ago simply because the conditions were too bad to play. The winter in England is much milder than in e.g. Germany or Sweden. The risk of injury at negative degrees and in bad conditions was deemed too high. I doubt this has a big influence on Champions League Performance at the end of the season.
Well we are becoming a farmers league, 115 FC might as well get given the trophy before a ball is even kicked.
Our media & pundits have this sheer arrogance of hyping up how great our league is but let’s be realistic, we get humiliated in Europe most of the time when we face top teams. Only Aston Villa are the English representatives in any European competition.
People use “fixture congestion” & “injuries” as excuses but let’s be real, you need to be playing consistently to maintain fitness & getting up to scratch.
The Premier League has the most money but hardly the best in the world. Give me the Serie A of the 90s/00s over this current Premier League decade all day long!
Absolutelyyy brilliant video! Fellow American here but just gotta say great stuff man 🤙
As a Brighton fan, I’m just happy we won our group. That was pretty awesome
It was not awesome when u get spanked by Roma. Might be the last time playing europe, should not gave an embarrassing display
@@Mr_Ri386 Man these fake watchers with 0 knowledge just suck... Brighton had 12 starting players injured and have the strongest injured XI in europe against a Roma on the rise winning 5 in a row with new manager no or few starting XI injured, and roma is really good right now they even smashed AC Milan in EL last week so context bud. Maybe first european campaign but certainly not the last, if anything Man U was the big embarrassement for PL crashing out in one of the easiest groups.
@@ZAzander1 Roma had injuries aswell
@@ZAzander1 youre right but you still got embarassed
1:14 Him not knowing England has a King now is so American.
It’s just one season. To support that hypothesis you would need to look at it over a 5 season time frame. There was a time in the 1990s when English clubs were dire in Europe (although I think there was a bad at one point to be fair) but that’s not the case anymore.
nobody really thinks the premier league is bad. They are just really arrogant and ignorant, thats why people poke fun at them. They pretend them having the best marketing in europe is not due to their default language being english, plus they talk about history and heritage like they didnt get bought by oil sheikhs and are a playball for international politics.
I think one of the problems is there aren't enough team's with a winning mentality. City has one 5 out 7 titles and it gives only City a winning mentality. They know what it means to win a league. Sure the English were poor this year but when we had Borrusia/Bayern and Juve/Milan in UCL finals, all teams had winning mentalities from winning leagues and international trophies
I hate Man U, but they were the Real Madrid of the premier league, the fact for over 10 years the "biggest club" in the prem revenue wise has been so mismanaged means the slightly smaller clubs have to take up the mantle. Imagine La Liga if Real Madrid suddenly forgot how to win, the league would lose much european prestige.
great stuff! :) it's not boring, it's our perception of boring.
here i am a milan/serie a fan onlooking all this fighting between the other 4 top5 leagues. nobody ever minds us for whatever reason lol
The premier league has the hghest floor but the ceiling hasn't necessarily been raised. This year though, the 3 headed tittle race costed them on europea. Liverpool and Arsenal are looking knackered because they literally cannot loose a single Game to he able to Challenger city so they are oobligated to play allá the starters every Game.
love the work, keep it up
Appreciate it!
3 different winners of the UCL in the last 5 seasons…that’s more than La Liga has had in its entire history!
Betis Bilbao Sevilla valencia Atleti Deportivo La coruña and real sociedad have won before
@@pascho1057 wrong
@@pascho1057 Google and laliga wiki disagree
Valencia and Athletico were stopped by another Spanish club
@@nnnp634 And it's Real Madrid.
English schedule is brutal. EPL teams got FA, Carabao, League and Champions/ Europa. Lower divisions got the same just replace Champions with that motor oil cup or whatever it's called.
The reason why Serie A being the best league in the world back in 80s and 90s was not all about the Champions League success. During the same period, there were at least 1 club from Serie A making through the now-defunct UEFA Cup Winners Cup and the UEFA Cup/Europa League Finals. In the UEFA Cup Winners Cup, the likes of Sampdoria, Parma, and Lazio won at least once. In the UEFA Cup, it's even better. Excluding the 1996 Final, which was between Bayern Munich and Bordeaux, there were at least 1 Serie A club featured in the Final between 1989 and 1999. 4 of those 10 Finals were an all-Italian affairs, although it wasn't until 2003 that an all-Italian Final happened in the Champions League between Juventus and Milan, who were the only Serie A clubs that had won the Champions League in 1980s and 1990s.
Also, Aston Villa lost to Olympiacos in the Conference League semifinal. Seems like the PL is the most overrated league in Europe.
This channel is way up there in football channels.
as a german we always considered italy to be our top rival, in recent years france. england has never really been up there. heck, even a germany vs netherlands game draws more intensity from the crowd
There aren’t farmers how dare you, they are Premier Farmers. Big difference 😊
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Premier league is not farmers technically because yes man city won a lot of premier league in recent time ( with Liverpool only winning it in 19-20). They are not as dominant in the premier league as lets say psg in ligue 1 or even juventus in serie a at some point. The point gap is not as large. Point gap between psg and second place have been huge like we are talking around 10 to even more.
that dosent makes it any less a Farmers league under the the standerts that prem fans set them selfs
Serie A has different winners on an annual basis. Points or not, it's not dominated by 1 team.
Based on the way that 'farmers league' is used by Prem-Heads all of the time, the EPL is currently a Farmers League. Hilarious poetic justice for their arrogance.
6:10 don't get this argument.
Roma are fifth in the Serie A table, and for the first Europa League tie, fielded a relatively healthy squad with both star players Lukaku and Dybala starting, the only big miss being Tammy Abraham.
Brighton are currently twelfth in the Premier League table, and are currently going through one of the worst injury crisis of the current decade. They were missing their star wingers Mitoma and March, the top Europa League goalscorer Pedro, and had to play with unfit fullback Estupinan, and many more injuries and fitness crises on top of that.
It was Roma's game to win.
Yes, but according to prem fans (like in that video) Brighton should have easily beaten Roma as they 'could win Serie A or at least get top 4'. Regardless of injuries, that statement is clearly stupidity personified.
@@timidstein888 which Prem fans? Pretty much all of us Brighton fans knew going into the match that we were the underdogs.
You do understand plastics and 'podcasters' with zero ball knowledge don't represent the majority of the Prem fans?
@@spinyslasher6586 I'm glad there are logical ones out there. I know it's not all, but it's a pretty overwhelming group of online fans and pundits who overrate the prem league.
The main impression is created by English players being rated much more valuable than the rest o the world. that's just because they have better contracts what makes compensation higher automatically, but also because they have a rule about at least having 8 English players in the team, what makes the fight about talents even worse
no it’s also bc english players are highly overrated
With the new club world cup and world cup, players injuries and fatigue will significantly increase
And then idiot football fans getting fooled by UEFA and FIFA and “save the football” from super league but more than happy to have 20 More maningless games each year cause it UEFA or FIFA who are in charge
En Inglaterra piensan que correr como idiotas y pagar 200 millones por cada jugador los hace mejores, por eso el unico mundial que tienen es robado😂😂
France used to have the Coupe de la ligue (French league cup) in addition to the Ligue 1 (domestic league) and the Coupe de France (French cup)
Keep up the good work bruh
Id say the premier league has more physically strong players and make more sprints but other than that it’s not much different other than maybe how slower they play in other leagues
They run a lot but can’t translate that to Europe. Idk if running a lot means they’re so much better.
So glad I found this channel, this guy doesn’t miss
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I wouldn't mind if teams in europe didn't play in the league Cup, winner gets the conference league spot. At least then championship tes can compete more for a trophy and there us a new team in europe every season, or at least a team that wasn't in the season before
in the best way possible i swear this guy has the exact same editing style as maqwell. i could just be attributing a common editing style to a certain guy tho which is dumb
I don't think Farmers League means a league with teams struggling in Europe. Usually used to refer to a boring league where 1 single team dominates everything with no competition
Babe wake up, Dagnal Diagonal uploaded a new video
80s and 90s the seria A players were doping
im so happy it came Rome at the euros 2021, I wouldn't have survived the English twitter community
Three different EPL clubs were amongst the winners of the last five champions leagues. Two of those finals were all EPL and different clubs at that. What are you guys on about ????
The difference between the pl and others farmers we have a title top 4 top 6 and relegation races all through the season coming down to the past few games of the season
That other leagues have a whole cup less and a winter break is not something set in place to get a competitive advantage in european cups. It's simply a historic thing. The PL does their extra cup purely out of greed. They also have significantly bigger squads to offset the loads. Overall it's kind of stupid to compare the different leagues with each other. Apples and pears.
The top 5 leagues are closer than most people think.
100%. Prem only fans need to read up about the Illusionary Truth Effect. The hard facts prove that they're not far ahead of any other top league other than in money and marketing. The past couple seasons of European Football prove this.
@@timidstein888 I mean yesterday we saw it again, unbeaten Leverkusen lost to p5 of the serie A, Atalanta also beat Liverpool before. You can't have a bad day against any first league opponent.
great channel bro
English clubs have way more money and spend more money on players. They should be able to deal with the extra games.
The point is they are bad at spending their money and bad at building squads. They are tactically behind as well. That's why they historically don't do well in Europe despite the financial advantage, though they had more success recently than in the 2010s when their record was diesmal
It blows my mind that so many people don't understand what Farmers League means.
So true. It means whatever people want it to mean to put down other leagues these days haha
"The most dominant run in Champion's League history doesn't belong to the Premier League" - Villa, Forest, and Liverpool won the European cup six out of seven years in the period 1977- 1984. That is definitively the most dominant period in the history of Europe's premier club football competition
City, Liverpool and Chelsea have carried the PL in Europe for 10 years. Now even Chelsea and Liverpool are in decline and City are compromised by the charges hanging over them. The rest of our league can barely get beyond the last 16 of the Europa league or beat average German and Italian leagues. Our media employ mediocre pundits, low iq ex-players and failed managers who speak in cliches saying our league's the best in the world because a keystone cops game ends 4-3. Anyone capable of a broader view of European leagues and teams doesn't get a voice and our sports media only cater to the small-minded cliche spouting demographic of fans, on some radio outlets they prefer them to be slightly inebriated before they allow them on air.
Btw Madrid has 16 injuried player many if them key players, and 2 of them long term injuries being one of them the keeper that is one of the differetial players for them
Prem is the best marketed league. Casuals think it's the best quality because it's chaotic, but the quality of football is far higher on the continent.
Well that's not true at all. 😂 Premier League is the highest quality league, it determines a lot of the transfer market and makes more money than the Champions League. The Champions League is overrated, tbh.
i personally think the prem is the best league not because it is better as it has the best teams in the world, but the competitiveness across the league is the most even out of the top 5 leagues. the most points between two teams in the league or 7 points and that's between the very bottom team, the relegation battle, then the top 5 teams currently in the league. every other league has more points separating teams which in most cases was the first place team. calling the prem a farmers league is only a valid argument if you consider their success in Europe which I think is only is only so bad because you cant take one team in the league easy or they will punish you.
That's simply not true.
I'd argue Serie A is more evenly competative. Four different winners in 5 years, the top 10 are all fairly even, and even relegated teams (like Sassuolo this year) beat Inter twice.
City played non stop since late march while Real Madrid played since what 3 games in april, and don't even think about their title challenger this year. The english FA is really that cruel
Pep Guardiola is the only man I trust to determine which league is actually the most difficult between La Liga, Bundesliga, and PL
bro,didn't watch the West Ham home game...
i mean you talked about something different here...
you talked about "is the premier league the best/ overhyped" also nice topic
but Farmers means something completely different
Lets make this channel blow up 🎉😂
good video!
Brother, it’s been out for 2 mins
It's not the best but the most enjoyable to watch. I can actually watch bottom league teams play and still enjoy it. Can't do that w the Laliga or BPL.
8:03 what about united, theyve been in like 5 finals?
The most competitive league is Brazil...
Allsvenskan and Ekstraklasa are fairly interesting over the last few years as well with many different winners.
I made this case thousand times since 2006 when PL fans star growing, bc for all the 90's child Italy and Spain where always the top tier teams, the thing is and i believe with my heart on it the lack TACTICS !!!
i know is a controversial topic, but follow me here, before europe change the status bc of BOSMAN LAW, then the leagues flooded europe with young talent from south america, that amount of pure, exquisite talent, technique, pass, dribbling, etc changed all of the dynamics of the game. The two Leagues who where the first to bring players from south where La liga and Serie A (Mostly bc cultural ties, almost everybody in wouth speaks spanish or some old grandads are italians), then the people saw real magicians in the field every single game, that forced to all teams to focus on full tactis to stop these monsters.
Premier League never has experienced any Romario, Ronaldo, Messi, Ronaldinho, Kaká. Zidane, Baggio, etc multiple teams having multiple god tier stars and teams in your own domestic league for years... that creates a change in the way your own team grows. Then the english way of football: Fast runs, crossings, long shots, and physical streght. Has real trouble when faces styles like tiki taka or chaotic runs ,etc.
Every other league evolved to some kind of "mixture" of styles, meanwhile, UK as usual, they didnt look in south america, they choose talent from his older colonies: Africa. The English football and the USA MLS in strange fashion they "think" the game alike, they think the game as a endurance test, not like South Americans or Spain or Italy ( We see the game as players around spaces and times) the Anglo way es less refined: "We need faster and younger wingers, stronger defence, taller GK to make and absolute endurance beast we call a team" .... Meanwhile other see the football as beauty, poetry, art, opera, patience,etc " we run when needed, we attack when the rival is careless about space or when the time is set" thats why other leagues have less intensity but manage to win over PL teams, its bc of tactis.
Obviusly Klopp, Pep, Mourinho, etc try to change that style, but the England is very attached to his own tradition and historical style. Thats why the England always loose with the National Team, great players, bad tactis bc english "old school" tactis is truly outdated.
The best Arsenal team in a Decade being Trashed by the Worst Bayern team in a Decade was Music to my ears hearing all the prem fans complain
I wholeheartedly agree that they’re farmers. English teams are all evenly matched and overhyped. When you go to Italian or Spanish football, it’s a lot different. Liverpool are use to playing wolves, burnley and Sheffield every week. If you drop a random team like AS Roma or Villarreal on them, they won’t know how to react to that. Football styles change when you move around Europe, it’s not all the same. In my opinion, Spanish football has always been the most elite, it’s just that Barca and Madrid are so good, you don’t get to see Real Sociedad and Real Betis get a chance.
If we are talking european front , they are improving i mean last season west ham and man city won european cups. This season , however , have been abysmal . Man utd grouped while losing to a danish team 4-3 and guess what copenhagen is not even first in the danish league rn , newcastle got grouped even if they battered psg in their group , brighton got battered by roma , Liverpool got absolutely slapped by atalanta ( 6th in serie a btw ) , man city loses to real , west ham beaten by the might leverkusen. Only aston villa remains here. Lets not forget the best arsenal side in a while losing to the worst bayern team in the last decade. Yeah you got my point here
Great vid
The scoreline dosent reflect the performance, against madrid city clearly played better but real Madrid ended up lucking out on pens, this isn't downplaying their win im just stating that city played better which they did
Okay but we had more injuries than Arsenal
PL teams focus more on domestic football than the Champions League due to how difficult and physically demanding PL actually
Read up about the Illusionary Truth Effect lol
I thought "Farmer's league" also means that these leagues produces good players which can be bought by all the super rich oil, billionaire and hedge funds clubs from the Premier league. In that way even if Bundesliga and Serie A are stronger this season, they still will have no chance against the financial might of the "not that good" Premier league.
i think its 50% farmer league, i mean look at other clubs in PL who is in the same level as Man City ?
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Gents my statement will not change, most ppl these days throw around the term farmers league and then disregard the quote on quote "farmers league' with little realization and knowledge about the fine margins that exists, the actual amount of competition, how good the almost unknown players or aka "bad players" and all the tactics battles going on in a games and I bet phone that 98% of ppl have not seen more than 10 highlights let alone watch watch a full game of a " farmers league" people forget about the Premier League and La liga because of their brandings and popularity in conversations and all the competitions they are involved in, I even know people that don't know more than 6 teams in la liga which is crazy, the word farmer league is actually just another way to insult the lower level of competition in other leagues besides the Premier League of course and you do have to remember that the Premier League more specifically the big six of the Premier League buys up great players from other leagues then either waist their potential or use them with no garenttee that their futures in their respective clubs will be sustainable and this long comment I typed should actually be considered every time a league or a player in a less financial fortunate club is getting disrespect or disregarded and majorly underappreciated.
The Premier League is a farmer league, yet is the only one of the top five leagues to have had a genuine title race this season… We’re now going into gameweek 36 with Arsenal & Man City virtually level; Make it make sense?!
so a title race is what makes a league not a farmers league? because for the last 5 years ive only seen 2 different winners lol
Didn't Arsenal win the Cup Winners Cup in 94?
The Prem has no talented players ; just players who good at hitting stats threshold.... The results in the uefa champions league proves this
How is a league better than others that has only one team winning it one after other, where clubs that doesn't belong to any of the fans spend millions and millions and barely make it in europe. Now they all are out including 115. Now what?
You get away with more clutching grabbing and fouling in the PL, seems the PL players do not adjust for European competition where those tactics are not as tolerated.
The PL is actually pretty soft in terms of Physicality
None of the major European leagues are farmers leagues any more, especially now that Leverkusen won the BL….
The concept of a farmers league is really disrespectful, as people usually take it to devalue the average skill in the league. Meanwhile the PL isn’t exactly better than even the BL they just spend more money at the cost of real poorer fans.
German managers are so successful because they learned how to do great things on a small budget…
Let’s just respect each league for the things it is best at…
Yeah Ligue 1 with PSG is not farmers league... They even can win the League with 1 hand and focusing in other competition... Others France clubs priorities money over trophy, doesn't care about competition, the real competition is to take 2nd in league and go to champions league to make more money and selling players of course...
The issue with the Prem fan boys is that they're not even British. You can tell just by how much the overseas fans meat ride the product. I watch the Prem only because I'm a Londoner born and bred but the Bundesliga is a more enjoyable product. I've been to Bayern, Frankfurt, Union Berlin & Koln and it's a better match day experience than any English club, the players actually care about the fans too
Knockout football is massively different to league football and as Englishman when it comes to knockout football England are bad. This seems to extend to our league
Bundesliga > PL > La Liga > Serie A > 2. Bundesliga > Ligue 1 > Liga Portugal > Eredivisie > SüperLig