The Dilemma of Dressing Up in the 21st Century (And How to Navigate It)

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  • Опубликовано: 26 дек 2024

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  • @chrissheffield5468
    @chrissheffield5468 3 месяца назад +33

    A man never has to justify his style. Keep dressing classical, sir.

    • @TomTom-sj3bn
      @TomTom-sj3bn Месяц назад

      You can never be overdressed or overeducated. Words to live by..

  • @arko9151
    @arko9151 3 месяца назад +44

    I live in Sweden and dressing up has the become the norm for us young people. A LOT of people wear dress shirts and knit jumpers to school, at least where I'm at. Peace🤞🏾

    • @bag2963
      @bag2963 3 месяца назад +5

      Since when? That old money style trend in social media is kind of cringe because people do it for the trend and most don't have a good taste. I often dress semi casual and even going to buy straight jeans, because the style should be suitable with the financial situation and the pace of life.

    • @santimendoz
      @santimendoz 3 месяца назад +5

      ​@@bag2963I have to agree. It's just a generational thing. I've been to Sweden, Germany, and the US in the 2000s and 2010s, and young people ALWAYS wanted to dress relaxed and "cool"
      T-shirts, ripped jeans, sweatshirts, painted nails, and colorful/particular accessories that would give them some individuality against their peers.
      Now teens want to follow a trend and have stopped trying to stand out. They just "compete" in the same boring trend by dressing like 1950's catholic school teens. They stopped rebelling and now follow trends like sheep.

    • @bag2963
      @bag2963 3 месяца назад

      @@santimendoz That eboy egirl and goth stuff is quite cringe too, I'd rather see people tucking 3 size bigger shirts in wide Zara high rise pants and looking like peasants rather than that eboy/ hippie trash, 98% ends up looking like bums but 2% if they nail it, I could see the charm.
      Now that style has evolved into kinda queer stuff. The thing is nothing compares with tasteful classical style or even measured smart casual.

    • @bag2963
      @bag2963 3 месяца назад

      Except as I said nice city pace style with like classic straight blue jeans, navy/white sneakers, almost any type of shirt, maybe even a navy vest etc. People combining Golden goose, Premiata, Margielas into this is actually nice, girls do much better job in Preppy style.

    • @santimendoz
      @santimendoz 3 месяца назад

      @@bag2963 you really be talking like a 65 year old lmao. Void of life, youth, and joy. Saying "peasants" won't give you any higher status whatsoever my dude.
      Thinking that something is classy and something is trashy is basic snob mentality.

  • @faranji
    @faranji 3 месяца назад +6

    That Kingsman scene is funny because the writers didn’t know what they were talking about. Oxfords have closed lacing not open, and brogues aren’t a kind of shoe. Oxfords can themselves have broguing.

    • @Olyfrun
      @Olyfrun 9 дней назад

      Idk if you've seen the latest entry, but they really jump through some hoops to try and retcon this into something sensible

  • @TheShadow079
    @TheShadow079 3 месяца назад +7

    "where their summer is cooler than our winter." As a brazilian, i feel your pain, bro.

  • @JustinKohler-u4b
    @JustinKohler-u4b 3 месяца назад +7

    I live in Atlanta, Georgia, US and work as a dog walker. I don’t exactly wear a suit everyday but still do the “smart casual” thing while leaning into rugged heritage style. I always get compliments and second glances because of my choices. Even making sure the fit is right doesnt have to be expensive or even difficult. Know your measurements and color theory and the rest will just happen organically as you stumble upon good pieces. Obviously the basics are necessary as a baseline but even these should complement your physique and genetics. It’s obvious when people are not used to their outfit when they constantly adjust it and fidget. Always wear the clothes, don’t let them wear you.

    • @moorshound3243
      @moorshound3243 3 месяца назад +1

      You from Bubba Sparxxx county say hi to him for me please.

  • @normalperson8173
    @normalperson8173 3 месяца назад +10

    I love how being a rebel in today's day and age is exactly the reverse of what it was in the 1960s and 70s. I'm not rebellious, I simply love menswear in the old days, and people wearing t shirts with baggy jeans and sneakers call me a rebel. How the table has turned.

  • @CanadaFree-ce9jn
    @CanadaFree-ce9jn 3 месяца назад +2

    A great video. I hold two physical jobs, so my progress to developing a classic wardrobe has been slow as I have limited time to wear it. I also like the English country look as well as some military vintage (it is hardest to add military clothes into a more dressy outfit but RL himself made "dress jeans" famous.

  • @Olyfrun
    @Olyfrun 3 месяца назад +1

    Great video, thankyou Patrick- you always have a fresh view!
    For me, to wear good clothing is to choose to live peacefully- to exercise harmony and grace, the temple dressed for ceremony.

  • @OddFellaw
    @OddFellaw 8 дней назад

    I love your videos! Keep up the fantastic work.

  • @sierrabothof2438
    @sierrabothof2438 3 месяца назад

    Wowww so informative! Thanks so much for this wonderfully informative video. Keep up the great work!

  • @sergeyminin7652
    @sergeyminin7652 3 месяца назад

    Thanks for a wonderful video. Need to mention, your speaking skills are really fine. And cheers from Russia

  • @MiamiHeat872
    @MiamiHeat872 3 месяца назад +7

    i'm glad youtube recommended this channel to me

  • @janerkenbrack3373
    @janerkenbrack3373 3 месяца назад +8

    Good advice and well presented, but I will challenge you on a point.
    The trend toward casual attire might have accelerated in the 1960s, but it didn't begin there. Just look at the history of men's fashion over the centuries.
    Think about this: A century ago men were bucking the formality of evening dress by wearing a tuxedo. Yes, black tie was out of place at a dinner party, where white tie was expected.
    Today, the most formal thing most men (in the west) will wear is a suit. A century ago this was called a "lounge suit" because it was too casual for any formal gathering.
    Yes, a century ago most (but not all) men own a suit and wear it regularly. If they worked in business, he might have more than one suit. (Of course the wealthy could have as many as they wish).
    But those men wouldn't wear a suit to the races or to watch a golf match. An odd jacket would be more appropriate.
    Look at enough pictures from the 1920s and '30s and you'll see examples of men wearing leather jackets with a shirt and tie. And men in shirtsleeves on a hot day in the city.

    • @patrickgunn.p
      @patrickgunn.p  3 месяца назад +2

      I totally resonate with your points. It seems like it’s in human nature to lean toward something 'casual' whenever we get the chance. But that’s what’s beautiful about the Golden Age of Menswear during the 1920s to the 1960s (or more precisely, the 1930s). It was an era where extreme formality was replaced by other 'stylish' alternatives (like the shift from white tie to black tie, as you mentioned). Speaking of the Golden Age, I have quite a few stories and some perspectives to share in my next video! 😉

    • @oskarek57
      @oskarek57 3 месяца назад

      @@patrickgunn.p Hello,
      that is why I don´t trust humanity in general. People just wear masks all the time. The fact, that nowadays 90% don´t dress up on a regular basis just showes, that in older eras, people used to do that only, because they believed they had to, not because they wanted to. In this terrible 21 st century, we can clearly see, that almost the whole humanity don´t mind being sloppy, even rich people, which is the saddest fact, there can be. What a fakery people played in old times pretending to be gentlemen and ladies. Now we can see, that it is not the case at all. Everything was just show.
      As for myself, I belong to minority, who really appreciates formal clothing and feeling good wearing that and it also makes sense, if you got money. I am not interested in playing the comedy, that I want to do the same stuff, that most other people do. I enjoy different things and that´s it. For all the dressers, try to ingore people giving you bad looks, because those people are just stupid manipulators trying to discredit you since they themselves have probably bad lives. They are not happy, thus making an effort to make some else unhappy. Quite simple.

    • @pensivepenguin3000
      @pensivepenguin3000 3 месяца назад +1

      Yeah. It seems that society has been steadily getting more casual over the decades and centuries. I still think he makes a good point though that there was an accelerated shift in society and culture in the 1960s, though

  • @pensivepenguin3000
    @pensivepenguin3000 3 месяца назад +1

    In the earlier part of the 20th century, men didn’t necessarily dress this way because they wanted to but rather because it was expected of them in most situations. I actually think it’s a good thing now that there isn’t that same societal expectation, because it means we can really set ourselves apart by choosing to dress that way even though we don’t have to

  • @malcolmwhite6204
    @malcolmwhite6204 3 месяца назад +1

    Hi, Patrick Gunn, my name is Malcolm White, and I just wanted to say that I am such a big fan of your RUclips educational channel. The contents that you post about are so amazingly spot-on, and also, the value that you add to your video topics are absolutely incredible, and insightful, as well. Please keep continuing to do this brilliantly motivational channel up, and running, my good friend 💯👍💯👍!!!! PS: Do you think that you can please do a video topic, and analysis, about why men should be more like James Bond? If you don't mind?

  • @j.w.parker8315
    @j.w.parker8315 3 месяца назад

    Brilliant analysis - subscribed.

  • @sitrakaforler8696
    @sitrakaforler8696 3 месяца назад

    00:06 The dilemma of dressing up in tropical places
    02:23 Society's shift towards extreme casualness
    04:28 Youth rebellion led to societal shift in clothing and behavior
    06:31 Navigating the societal expectation of dressing in the 21st century
    08:31 Dressing up symbolizes elegance and non-conformity in a casual world
    10:44 Context-based styling is crucial for elegant dressing.
    12:44 Understanding the formality of clothing materials and colors
    14:41 Navigating formality, fabric, color, and details in dressing up.
    16:45 Personal pivoting is key to individual style
    18:28 Elegance in dressing is essential in the modern world
    Sir. Keep it up!

  • @moorshound3243
    @moorshound3243 3 месяца назад

    Great video thank for posting.

  • @Paco0parla
    @Paco0parla 3 месяца назад

    I think one factor you only touched lightly when talking about the reasons we dress more casually today is that many people are coming into the environments that were only reserved to the higher classes before. Clothes started becoming more casual as early as the late XVIII century, an aristocrat born in 1750 could have made a video like yours saying that people were less formal now, referring to powdered wigs. Later on, the very complex suits of royalty became more akin to a primitive business suit or morning attire, capes fell out of fashion in the XIX and early XX century, boots became shoes. All these movements where motivated because groups of people that were not included in certain environments started to be. In the late XVIII century, the bourgeoisie started to relate in equality to aristocracy, bringing more relaxed codes. Example of this would be Napoleon, who, while being from a lower noble family, rose to be the emperor of the French and dressed much more 'casually' than Louis XVI, for obvious reasons. In the XIX century, people from "non-respectable" sectors started entering the jet set. In the XIX century, a merchant would have been frowned upon in the most exclusive circles, for his profession was considered indecorous. In the 60's the change was motivated not only by the countercultural movement, but by people born in the working class accessing professional environments and bringing their dress preferences with them. In my family for example, my generation (my cousins and I) were the first ones being professionals, before that, our family worked either in the countryside or the trades. This happened all across the west, the new professionals didn't dress casually because they were consciously rebelling, but because they perceived their clothes as normal as can be, and being more numerous, their criteria stuck on quickly. It's a question of democratization and loss of tradition, much of our information on how to dress comes from our parents (or family in general), if you take an entire generation that are the sons and daughters of plumbers, electricians and cleaning ladies and allow them to become engineers, doctors or lawyers, they're going to bring their dress codes from home, because they never "grew up" in that world they have come in. If you want a good example of this, I'll use my late grandpa, he was born in the 30's. I don't think he wore a necktie more than a handful of times in his life, for weddings, baptisms and funerals (and I doubt he always would do so), because he was a construction worker. If you took another person's grandparent born in the same decade, that was a lawyer, a doctor or a white-collar worker in general, he would probably wear suits very often and even black or white tie attire to some event. This reminds me of a comment made by a college professor, he said that people from my university (a public one) are well considered when hiring but some recruiters complain that: "we wear tracksuits too often". Yeah, we do, because wearing a tracksuit as an everyday or working attire is perfectly normal in the working class neighborhoods and when working physical jobs and that’s what we saw our family do growing up.

  • @MasonA2358
    @MasonA2358 3 месяца назад

    Finally some good youtube content.

  • @WJYN7435
    @WJYN7435 3 месяца назад +2

    TBH classical men clothing is the objective best. But IMO the essence of it at root, is function and function always depend of the environment and context.
    Nowadays, being able to wear classical clothing is reserved to some professions. Lawyers, doctors etc. And being med student I can tell you that most doctors don't wear full suits simply because it's completely unecessary, time consuming, and the medical coat replace the jacket. Actually, many doctors sometimes dont even wear dress shirt in order to not intimitate patients too much: the medical coat can be intimating enough, but dressing down is a strategy.

    • @teekue
      @teekue 3 месяца назад

      But how do you get to and from work? In a medical coat? It's a choice of how and when to dress up.

    • @WJYN7435
      @WJYN7435 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@teekue For men, you get to work in business casual/ smart casual clothing. Proper t shirt/ dress shirt + pants.
      When in the medical field, the need to dress up is really gone, because it has objectively no purpose:
      -we don't need that extra confidence from dressing up in classical men clothing because our ego gets ton of care already from work and just the social setting itself (relatives, patient, dates, etc etc). Like seriously, dont be delusional and ask yourself why it feels so nice to wear classical men wardrobe suits etc, because it evokes high socio-economical status. If those suits we only were by peasants/ blue collar workers no one would want to wear them. But since we absolutely don't need confidence / e go boost, we don't wear such clothing on a daily basis.
      -it takes time, daily: It takes time and care to wear the classical men wardrobe properly.

    • @teekue
      @teekue 3 месяца назад

      @@WJYN7435 the need to dress up anywhere has gone. You can do it but you'll probably be fine without it, look at any tech CEO as proof. Btw: the business suit we wear is what the working class used to wear and the rich frowned upon it as being lower class. So it was in fact being worn by blue collar workers everywhere in the West. I couldn't follow the rest of your point. We don't need confidence? Ego? Is this some kind of armchair psychology? It takes time to take care of clothing? What? What does that have to do with anything? Taking care of anything takes time. Cooking, cars, sports, a craft, a house, you name it.

  • @natangershanov9385
    @natangershanov9385 3 месяца назад +1

    Great Video 👍

  • @KnozLo
    @KnozLo 3 месяца назад

    I usually dress in a Polo shirt or sometimes a shirt with jeans.

  • @true_the_lens
    @true_the_lens 3 месяца назад +1

    I like to be well dressed because I respect myself and others....

  • @huttasinmahavisshalai6118
    @huttasinmahavisshalai6118 3 месяца назад

    Greeting from Chonburi Thailand krub.

    • @patrickgunn.p
      @patrickgunn.p  3 месяца назад

      @@huttasinmahavisshalai6118 🙏

  • @alexmarques2398
    @alexmarques2398 3 месяца назад

    Good one. So far. Another comment for the algorithm. 👍

  • @captaincolata9356
    @captaincolata9356 3 месяца назад

    Greetings from Switzerland

  • @alternateunreleasedshellac505
    @alternateunreleasedshellac505 3 месяца назад +3

    Oxfords, not Derby.

    • @teekue
      @teekue 3 месяца назад

      Depends on the outfit.

  • @xXxCatsnakexXx
    @xXxCatsnakexXx 3 месяца назад +4

    Modernity is degenerate. Keep the Faith!

  • @rogerr.8507
    @rogerr.8507 2 месяца назад

    👧Where are you going?
    👦I'm going to mind my own business

  • @darkphotographer
    @darkphotographer 3 месяца назад

    how you gone dress all depend on weather , where you are going , what is you job , and your age , if you work in supermarket , in winter , you are 20 , and go for beer in rock bar ,, will be totaly different if you are a doctor , in fall , in you 40is and go to a piano bar ,

  • @jeffjefflover
    @jeffjefflover 3 месяца назад

    Ngl i think the most compelling reason for increased casual dress is just comfort. Everyone want to be comfortable. And its more comfortable to buy cheap cozy clothing that you can swap out reguarly than to commit to an expensive statement piece.

  • @tentimetex
    @tentimetex 3 месяца назад

    No need to wear dress shoes the whole time in order to look classy. Nobody wants to do that because its just uncomfortable and also not healthy for your gait. You can wear 'business-casual' sneakers or 'smart sneakers' as they are sometimes called, which are minimalist, made from quality leather and look super classy. They go well with a blazer or other smarter clothing.

    • @KeiAngelus
      @KeiAngelus 3 месяца назад +4

      I think this is a misconception. Quality dress shoes are comfortable, but most people wear cheap dress shoes hence the popular opinion that dress shoes are inherently uncomfortable.

    • @teekue
      @teekue 3 месяца назад +2

      Also big disagree that you can look classy in "smart sneakers". These just look bad, like old people trying to relate to young people by wearing their hip shoes. Either wear sneakers and go for a more relaxed style like we can see in streetwear, ivy etc or wear dress shoes with tailoring. Dress shoes are not uncomfortable but they are expensive if you want some comfort. And they have to fit well which is not the easiest thing to say.

    • @pensivepenguin3000
      @pensivepenguin3000 3 месяца назад +3

      The answer is loafers or boat shoes, depending on the setting, weather and occasion. These are more casual than dress shoes but still align with classic men’s wear principles

  • @divinodayacap3313
    @divinodayacap3313 3 месяца назад +1

    Good points. But you speak so slow i had to bump up the playback speed to 2x. And you speak so superflously flowery that it takes so much time before you make your point. Anyways just my two cents. Peace!

    • @pensivepenguin3000
      @pensivepenguin3000 3 месяца назад +2

      Constructive feedback is one thing, but I think it’s ungentlemanly to criticize the way somebody speaks, especially when English is obviously not their native language. I personally found his presentation style very engaging and easy to follow

    • @lukejohnson1274
      @lukejohnson1274 3 месяца назад +1

      @@pensivepenguin3000 As someone who regrettably only speaks one language I will never criticize someone who even attempts to speak in a second or more.