Funny, the reason Koba gave to wanting to go to war with humans was because Ash got shot by a human, only for Koba to kill Ash anyways. It was never about the well being of other apes, it was about his own selfish goal to kill humans for what they did to him.
I swear few months ago I searched up and down youtube trying to find a timeline video for this franchise to no avail and out of nowhere it appears on my feed. Best day ever
I’m so glad I watched this since I’ve never seen the older originals before seeing the newest kingdom installment. Can completely agree and was nerding out when I saw little nods to them!
@@ididntasktobehereI thought the new one was great. Until just now as I get exposed to the original. Kinda wish I'd just watched it instead cos god damn it's spoiled now. Serves me for doubting and not just watch it😭😭😭
The director of Kingdom and the original writers of Dawn don't see it as a "reboot". The director of Kingdom has said that there is no reason why the series needs to be rebooted, that these movies could simply be prequels with all the current movies leading right up to the first film. Its really not paying homage when your actively connecting them.
@@Thatwhatshesaid.I thought the face expressions were his real expressions? Using motion capture ? Then they would put the animated monkey over it? Or is that only after this movie ? Genuinely asking lol I got no idea.
So many people are so misinformed about the relationship between the new movies and the originals and so I really appreciated that comprehensive intermission that accurately describes their relation
@@symbolofpeacetv1578 youre half right, they aren’t prequels but they aren’t remakes either. They are just inspired by the original movies. The continuity wouldn’t make sense if they were in the same timeline so they can’t be prequels. But they aren’t remakes either though. None of the new movies tell the same story, it’s set way before those films how can it be a remake lmao. That’s like saying Batman begins is a remake of Batman (1989). Tim Burton’s Planet of the Apes movie is a remake. This is a reboot.
I just watched the trilogy for the first time randomly this past week. Then I found out the new one was coming out. Dang, I was totally scammed. Haha! I did like it though.
Love the ending of beneath the planet of the apes, it left me speechless as a kid. Never seen a movie portray humanity or earth as something insignificant.
Roddy McDowal as Ceasar was a perfect pick and one, if not his greatest, of roles. The speech he gives at the end of conquest resonats authority and haunting reverence. Aside from Peter Vincent this series will always remind me of him. A brilliant idea to bring to the big screen and I can't wait to see Kingdom.
My favorite scene in the whole series is when Caesar and his human family are the table for breakfast. The dad shows obvious decline in mental faculties and Caesar gives this “oh no!” type of expression. As someone who’s grandparents both died of Alzheimer’s I have seen that look many times 😢
Agreed, I made sure to include that shot because it was so effective. Always stood out in my memory. I’m sorry about your grandparents 🙏 it’s a very difficult and heart breaking thing to see
As someone who watched the Original Planet of the Apes films, the Reboots, Remakes, or prequels whatever they are did justice to the OGs so I'd be happy with them if they were prequels or remakes
In the future, if you didn't know that PotA wasn't connected to this series and was to be a somewhat faithfulish remake of the original from the 60's where a group of astronauts hit an anomaly, land on a planet full of apes, only to find it is actually Earth just several thousand years into the future, it'd be cool if they did connect them but I doubt they will, most people didn't like Tim Burtons film (I thought it was the best one) and Mark seems like he trys to forget he ever did it.
Now that it's established that we are stuck in an infinite loop of events that only changes in minor ways due to time travel, the Mark Wahlberg movie can coexist in the same universe in a pocket dimension, or as the new loop's beginning (since it took place 3,000 years after the Charlton Heston movie.) Four things occur in this POTA timeloop: !: Apes get smart 2: they overthrow mankind 3: Mankind eventually regains control 4: Apes once again become mute animals... then the cycle begins anew. You have instances of Caesar time traveling from the future back to the 1970s, astronauts time traveling to the future from 1972, apes going back to 1974, etc. Each time those Hasslein warps occur, it tinkers with the timeline, which was why the Icarus left earth in 1972, but after the apes traveled back to time, now the Icarus leaves earth in 2010. At first, mankind blew itself up, after the time travel, now mankind died out from a virus: a virus that was brought to earth accidentally by the time traveling apes.
What I loved about the originals were those bleak endings. I will never forget seeing the statue of liberty like that for the first time. And I will never forget the ending overhead shot of escape, where zira and cornelius die in each others arms.
@@thepieofyourlife4799And so were most movies back then. All back to the future movies ended on a happy note (3 was the greatest crime), John Carpenter's The Thing was panned by critics when happy go lucky movies like ET and Gremlins were all the rage. There's a ton of movies back then that did somber endings and there's plenty now
@@thepieofyourlife4799 all fine. I'm just tired of nostalgia blinders on people. The only reason all the good movies are from back then, is that the bad movies from back then aren't remembered at all
@@xman9354 That's a good point of view, but if John Carpenter's The Thing was so panned by critics, then why is it seen as an important piece of pop culture even to this day?
@@SupportGamin2025 Yes but no nukes were ever used it was more like small scale regional wars over resources as civilization collapsed same as in The Walking Dead and any other post Apocaliptic movie between the end of Rise and the start of Dawn and the last human vs human war was over how to deal with the new strain of ALZ that was making humans lose their cognitive functions the general wanted to kill all newly infected humans basically the same useless response we see with zombies in The Walking Dead. The third strain only left a very small remnant of humans that were immune to the third strain while most became cognitive impaired which is what we see in Kingdom but if anyone uses nukes it will be apes and not humans that launch them if not Maximus then another Ape megalomaniac like him.
In the original, the reason apes rose to power was because there was a plague that wiped out all the dogs and cats so humans took in apes as pets and servants. There's no mention of this in Dawn. In fact there's a dog in Dawn and that's why Caesar asks if he's a pet. So basically Dawn can't be a prequel.
@@mrwog82 Yup and the apes evolved naturally that was also a misunderstanding of how evolution/adaptation worked at the time. In the reboot the retrovirus which was designed to replace diseased human brain cells DNA with healthy ones so James Franco character knew he was in effect creating ape/human hybrids out of the test subjects but it was the only shortcut way to test his ALZ1 retrovirus to then try to use it to cure Alzheimer and later other genetic degenerative diseases down the line. So yes the reboot retains many elements from the original but in essence its a completely new story or the story told from a more comprehensive scientifically speaking lens. Yes technically none of the reboot movies can possibly land in the 1968 movie because its a parallel story with its own origin story which resembles the original but is not the exact same.
I really want to thank for composing this timeline. I was a kid back in the 70s. I saw all the movies back then, but I didn’t speak english at that time, yet.
@@jean-pierrea5803 In the Mad Magazine parody of POTA, Taylor's first words are, "Let my people go." One of the apes says, "Once he gets hold on an expression, he never lets go."
The first one is easily a masterpiece. I just watched it and the political and philosophical commentary is even more relevant than it was before... sadly.
@@OneTakeVids Dude why are you just sayign those 2? The entire old saga is worth watching, each fim has it's own greatness, even the worst of them. Whether the timeline is a Temporal Shift or Temporal Paradox is still debatable, but they work pretty well. THe OG sets up the world with the mystery and action and adventure. Beneath shows us the folly of Man as the conflict between Man and Ape leads to Earth's destruction, then Escape starts off fun and mostly lighthearted and kind of adorable seein Cornelius and Zira who loved Taylor and helped Humans in the firt 2 films interact with the Human world, only for Man's fear of the future to drive Hasslein to kill them in a tragic ending, but Caesar's survival leads to the Ape uprising as he sees 2 things, his people bein unjustly enslaved, and the death of Armand, his Human adoptive father who instilled into him empathy and compassion, which is why despite the Ape rebellion being violant and destructive we see in Battle that Caesar, wants to build peaceful society between Man and Ape, he wants to be equals but is taking it slow as he wants to see if thes current generation of Man will be any different, a Gorilla named Alto leads his own rebellion and by the end dies, and while it seems there will be peae between Man and Ape, we don't know as we cut to 600 years later with peace, but there's still 1,400 years for things to change to how they were durign the OG film.
@@dolphinsrrEscape from The Planet of The Apes touches on different timelines leading to the same outcome, so the new Trilogy is just another "lane" leading to the same finish line.
The 113 gave him the ability to speak. He already had a higher consciousness bc of being born with the 112. It's why he really is the only one who can speak at length, while the rest use sign language.
@@brooke5258 Koba spoke too, he was the test ape for the 113. Also Caesar stole the 113 drug and exposed the other apes which is the reason some can speak in war and their descendants in the new movie.
That's exactly what happened. The ship from EscapePOTA carried the virus and did in fact accelerate things in the new timeline. What took centuries in the first timeline only took decades in the new.
I love both stories mashed up, but the new remakes are 10x better. I love the tweaks they’ve made to the old ones and am excited to see how they continue to build on the franchise. I wouldn’t mind a show/mini series told from either perspective of humans or apes
When the "Dawn of the planet of the apes" was in cinemas I went to watch with a free ticket. I was so surprised how frickin' good it was. Top 5 movies I have seen in cinema.
did you watch the movie? their species has nothing to do with their nature, Ceaser is peaceful because he was raised by a loving human family while Koba is violent because he was tortured and experimented on. Its that simple
@@Player-pj9ktok but the guy just explained to you an actual in movie reason why (if what you’re saying is true) the apes are different from they’re supposed nature
I forgot how much l loved the planet of the apes. This was my favorite when I was little and I mean the original I had all the dolls and the treehouse. I saw on TV the first one and it rekindled my love of it.
A correction at 3:00 the car did not belong to Charles, it belonged to the neighbor that is why the neighbor freaked out, and besides Charles had Alzheimer's so he wouldn't have owned a car like that anyway.
@JessP1 ah okie that makes Hella sense my brain remembers that scene very differently lmfao for some reason I remember something about him believing he's going to work and then using his sons car to smash the other car, but as I said I was genuinely questioning it lmfao so again thank you
I agree, I think it’s because of what both age groups went through growing up tbh. The older ones came out during the Cold War and communism, so nukes were the thing everyone thought would kill us all. And then we’ve had the bird flu, Ebola, covid, and however many other sicknesses we’ve seen, so we got to watch a virus make apes superior
@@DieselDaddy82 a good movie is a good movie and a bad movie is a bad one the fact that the reboots wouldnt have existed without the originals has no effect on the reboot being better in every way
As a fan of the original films, the mark walberg reboot was decent. I liked how they went with practical makeup, giving it that OG feeling. The new versions have been great, very well made. Im glad Hollywood did not botch these films like they have so many others.
@@brokesmoke101i think this is just nostalgia talking. Cgi is admittedly far more realistic and immersive, and they use practical effects as far as motion tracking for facial expressions and ape movements, so its still ultimately acting behind the apes.
Great overview. The sequels to the original are on a completely different timeline and the Cesar origin story is obviously completely different. I think you hit the nail on the head when you said the new movies are more of a way of explaining how the world ended up controlled by apes like we saw in the original, I think the early movie references are more of a nod to the original than anything else.
I hope they make a faithful retelling of the first film to newer audiences. The theme of seeing what the apocalypse has evolved into by the hands of men is such a terrifying but sombre experience that recent humans should witness
Wasn’t familiar how deep this went but it goes hard As someone who’d only watched the 2011 movie in the theater and that “No” and everyone’s reaction to Cesar speak forever engrained in my head, to me, this timeline hits hard (regardless of inconsistencies with the continuity) how it comes full circle with the “old” movies that take place in the distant future and the “new” movies that show what led to said future Makes me wanna watch the entire new and old series of movies and come back to watch this timeline that should get me seasoned before watching KoTPotA
Well, the concept is truly beautiful. If we look past the continuity issues, it seems like the apes took over the planet, and in the future, men will become the primate. The fact that in the original 2 apes escape and land on Earth and they have a son Cesar is proof that Earth is doomed and that in the original they landed on the future Earth. I love these details and imagination to do a sci-fi like this.
I hate how people think the old movies are crap just because they are old. I get that it might not be their taste but they don’t even give them a chance.
I love your enthusiasm in your voice, using it in the right moments when it comes to annunciating certain plot points. I needed this tbh. To understand the sheer size of the two POTA universes
Okay , this is not complicated. The Reboot ape movies ARE NOT prequels to the original franchise. Anyone whose watched Escape from The Planet of The Apes and Conquest of The Planet of The Apes and paid close attention would know that. Their are three SEPARATE Apes films timelines. The first timeline is the original movies The second timeline is the Tim Burton Remake The third SEPARATE timeline is the reboot movies . Yes , they have similar ideas , characters and events from the original franchise but they apart of a new SEPARATE timeline . The Caesar in Rise is not the same Casaer as in Escape and Conquest. The Reboots are just that REBOOTS . Their shouldn't be any debate , the logic makes perfect sense.
@@swanhill5759 okay well if he did cool , my point still stands . Unfortunately their are people who don't pay attention to the fine details of the original movies and the reboot franchise. I mean people can come up with their own head canon if they want , but I follow the details of the stories of all ape movies and because of those details the reboot films are just reboots and not prequels . I appreciate you pointing it out the ending of the video to me . I just stopped watching the video and said what I said . I bet you were expecting me to get all mad and start cussing you out but I'm not gonna do that. This has been some productive feedback . I hope you have a very ducky day. Quack quack 😂🤣😂🤣😂😂😂🤣😂🤣😂
@@tedy2777 I love that is all you got from what I typed , a grammer error. We got a grammer expert here people . Make sure to word your discussions well , he's giving out grades . He'll probably report you to the big bad bosses of RUclips and you'll get sent to the RUclips principal. 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣m
@@quack2265 No problem buddy! Here are a few more edits that should be made. "What got a grammer expert here people . " should end in a question mark. "Make sure to word your discussions well , he's giving out grades ." Don't use a comma to separate two independent clauses. Kudos to you for knowing "principal" as opposed to "principle". Proud of you little buddy!
I only remembered the first planet of the apes from the original set and remember an astronaut returning to earth when the planet is already taken over. But I didnt know there was a series where the apes return in time
You're referencing the Tim Burton reboot. It more closely followed the ending from the book. In the book, it's a straight space voyage to a planet and back to earth. When he gets home, it has been taken over. I suspect when they made the original in '68, it was cheaper to have the ape planet be Earth than to film a return voyage. The book: He brings Nova back with him teaching her speech. If I remember right, she gives birth. The kid learning speech during the trip helps Nova to learn.
What an excellent and professional explanation I'm 62 I grew up watching all My child and grandchildren as well may 10 all will watch kingdom of the apes 2024 history and legacy
I watched every Ape movie/tv shows last year and thoroughly enjoyed them all. It is tragic that Andy Serkis did not win any Oscar for any of the tribology. I've never witnessed such expressions on a face before and that too when the character he plays as is an Ape!! He was simply marvelous in these movies. Hardly 30 seconds is devoted to Caesars cremation in the Kingdom of the Planet of Apes. On the behalf of all the devoted fans of the Ape movies, I humbly apologize to Andy Serkis for not winning an Oscar, but in my mind you WON big time!!
I loved watching this, the hour just went by! It finally explained a lot of things for me. Wonderful video editing and amazing narrating with a captivating voice.
48:00 Zira and Cornelius were the first fictional characters as a child that I had an emotional connection to. They represented the struggle to reach a stage of enlightenment in an unenlightened environment, and they were the first fictional characters that made me aware of that struggle.
Amazing work! I recall watching the original series with my father when I was a child as he grew up with those titles: this video brought up some memories!
Thanks for the breakdown, I grew up in the 70's and own all 5 OG movies on DVD. My favorites are the Planet, Escape, and Conquest. Beneath and Battle are ..just ok but worth watching.
Hey! I just wanted to say I just watched Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes, and wanted to thank you for this video (which I watched prior) I never watched the OG PotA, so it was nice to notice the nods they made to those in the most recent installment. Thank you very much for this video!
I was always under the impression that the reboot was something different from the original series. 🤔 Especially, considering that there are a bunch of contradictions from the reboot and original series that lead me in this direction.
the original planet of the apes movies - despite of the gaping technical disadvantage in production - still give me a 100 times more goosebumps than any modern CGI.
This is so AWESOME ❤THANK YOU SO MUCH , I’ve watched the original Planet of the Apes with Charlton Heslton when it first came out on tv , and it’s amazing that they made a movie explaining from the moment they left earth until when Charlton lands again in the future. Thank you so much for this incredible work I do appreciate it . South Australia 🇦🇺
Funny, the reason Koba gave to wanting to go to war with humans was because Ash got shot by a human, only for Koba to kill Ash anyways. It was never about the well being of other apes, it was about his own selfish goal to kill humans for what they did to him.
And to show that apes have become no better than humans. They'll kill themselves to get ahead.
mustve been a republican.
yes exactly
Excuses/reason to furthur your goals.
Sounds human
I swear few months ago I searched up and down youtube trying to find a timeline video for this franchise to no avail and out of nowhere it appears on my feed. Best day ever
SAME
Well it's not so mysterious, it appears on your feed BECAUSE you looked for it ;)
Yup
Stil a bit confused but seems like the new mobies are a remake tht lossly try to fit the old ones
A wonderful day indeed
The amount of homage that the reboot gave to the "orginal" films is actually crazy
I’m so glad I watched this since I’ve never seen the older originals before seeing the newest kingdom installment. Can completely agree and was nerding out when I saw little nods to them!
@@ididntasktobehere The hosing, Bright Eyes, Cornelius, and so SO much more! It's amazing!
@@ididntasktobehereI thought the new one was great. Until just now as I get exposed to the original.
Kinda wish I'd just watched it instead cos god damn it's spoiled now. Serves me for doubting and not just watch it😭😭😭
I have never watched the original, so it took me as a surprise when "ape not kill ape" is from the original series!
The director of Kingdom and the original writers of Dawn don't see it as a "reboot". The director of Kingdom has said that there is no reason why the series needs to be rebooted, that these movies could simply be prequels with all the current movies leading right up to the first film. Its really not paying homage when your actively connecting them.
Every major ape is named either Caeser, Cornelius or blue eyes 😂 just like humans. Great video
Bright eyes !!
@@TreyJaySoSway same damn difference. Bright eyes, blue eyes, Daquan. All the same shit.
@@bw7754 lol sure man 😆
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The appropriate response to being wrong is to own up.
Andy Serkis should have won an Oscar for playing Caesar.
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I mean every expression is just CGI and VFX. Even a dog could play that 😂😂
@@Thatwhatshesaid.I thought the face expressions were his real expressions? Using motion capture ? Then they would put the animated monkey over it? Or is that only after this movie ? Genuinely asking lol I got no idea.
@user-cw5pw3ml9i
No. It's motion capture, so Andie's expressions were real.
CGI acting should've been a category decades ago
So many people are so misinformed about the relationship between the new movies and the originals and so I really appreciated that comprehensive intermission that accurately describes their relation
What do you mean when when the new films are remakes not a prequel
@@symbolofpeacetv1578 youre half right, they aren’t prequels but they aren’t remakes either. They are just inspired by the original movies. The continuity wouldn’t make sense if they were in the same timeline so they can’t be prequels. But they aren’t remakes either though. None of the new movies tell the same story, it’s set way before those films how can it be a remake lmao. That’s like saying Batman begins is a remake of Batman (1989). Tim Burton’s Planet of the Apes movie is a remake. This is a reboot.
@@billymanziel5666 they're prequels and reboots smh
@@SupportGamin2025No it’s a reboot. They rebooted the series and started from the origins and will continue telling their new story.
Fun thread
I love how in the 60s an astronaut can just light up a stogie mid space flight 😂😂
Of course they designed the spaceship with air filters to allow for smoking
God I miss the old days it was such a badass time
@@Paulin-pw5jxstfu you’re probably 12
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It didn't age well. 😂😂😂😂
this video was just what I needed, for some reason my algorithm is filled with planet of the apes content and I never watched old ones
Most likely in relation to the upcoming movie May 10th
I just watched the trilogy for the first time randomly this past week. Then I found out the new one was coming out. Dang, I was totally scammed. Haha! I did like it though.
@@veganbeastmodesuper underrated trilogy, glad you liked it
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What a pointless comment. You don’t matter here, we aren’t your friends, get a life if you comment about yourself thinking people care.
Love the ending of beneath the planet of the apes, it left me speechless as a kid. Never seen a movie portray humanity or earth as something insignificant.
When I found out there was one after that I was like “HOW? They’re all dead!”
"Whats wrong with me?"
"I think you're crazy"
"I want a second opinion"
"You're also lazy"
Can I play the piano anymore
@@themanofconstantsorrowelia1929Of course you can!
@@DragonTamer31Kwell I couldn’t before
DR ZAIUS DR ZAIUS
🎶 I hate every ape I see, from chimpan-A to chimpanzee 🎶
Roddy McDowal as Ceasar was a perfect pick and one, if not his greatest, of roles. The speech he gives at the end of conquest resonats authority and haunting reverence. Aside from Peter Vincent this series will always remind me of him. A brilliant idea to bring to the big screen and I can't wait to see Kingdom.
Did not love Conquest but DID love that speech. He was fantastic
You guys will like KINGDOM. Saw it Tuesday.
I saw Kingdom and can confidently say you will like it
Kingdom was boring and lame.
My favorite scene in the whole series is when Caesar and his human family are the table for breakfast. The dad shows obvious decline in mental faculties and Caesar gives this “oh no!” type of expression.
As someone who’s grandparents both died of Alzheimer’s I have seen that look many times 😢
Agreed, I made sure to include that shot because it was so effective. Always stood out in my memory.
I’m sorry about your grandparents 🙏 it’s a very difficult and heart breaking thing to see
Caesar moving his fork to the right direction is a tender and loving moment
That’s Andy Serkis’ performance! He’s a master of facial expression.
As someone who watched the Original Planet of the Apes films, the Reboots, Remakes, or prequels whatever they are did justice to the OGs so I'd be happy with them if they were prequels or remakes
or us the multiverse concept... and its two different Earths...
The CGI apes look kind of crappy tbh
@@Sigismund-von-Luxembourgthe costume apes look goofy
@@Sigismund-von-Luxembourg In Dawn and War they look impeccable, I understand why someone might think they look funky in Rise though.
@ColonelBragg yea in the first one I agree it got better overtime
Ok but were is Mark Wahlberg
In the future, if you didn't know that PotA wasn't connected to this series and was to be a somewhat faithfulish remake of the original from the 60's where a group of astronauts hit an anomaly, land on a planet full of apes, only to find it is actually Earth just several thousand years into the future, it'd be cool if they did connect them but I doubt they will, most people didn't like Tim Burtons film (I thought it was the best one) and Mark seems like he trys to forget he ever did it.
He's currently dealing with autonomous robots from another planet. 😂
Now that it's established that we are stuck in an infinite loop of events that only changes in minor ways due to time travel, the Mark Wahlberg movie can coexist in the same universe in a pocket dimension, or as the new loop's beginning (since it took place 3,000 years after the Charlton Heston movie.)
Four things occur in this POTA timeloop: !: Apes get smart 2: they overthrow mankind 3: Mankind eventually regains control 4: Apes once again become mute animals... then the cycle begins anew. You have instances of Caesar time traveling from the future back to the 1970s, astronauts time traveling to the future from 1972, apes going back to 1974, etc. Each time those Hasslein warps occur, it tinkers with the timeline, which was why the Icarus left earth in 1972, but after the apes traveled back to time, now the Icarus leaves earth in 2010. At first, mankind blew itself up, after the time travel, now mankind died out from a virus: a virus that was brought to earth accidentally by the time traveling apes.
That’s a remake of the Charleston Heston movie
Not canon doesn’t count fuck that movie
Man the OGs just get more and more unhinged lol. Cool too see callbacks with names and things like Alpha Omega being the brand given to apes in War
What I loved about the originals were those bleak endings. I will never forget seeing the statue of liberty like that for the first time. And I will never forget the ending overhead shot of escape, where zira and cornelius die in each others arms.
Most movies today are too afraid to end on such note.
@@thepieofyourlife4799And so were most movies back then. All back to the future movies ended on a happy note (3 was the greatest crime), John Carpenter's The Thing was panned by critics when happy go lucky movies like ET and Gremlins were all the rage. There's a ton of movies back then that did somber endings and there's plenty now
@@xman9354
Guess I just never watched enough movies to be able to tell.
@@thepieofyourlife4799 all fine. I'm just tired of nostalgia blinders on people. The only reason all the good movies are from back then, is that the bad movies from back then aren't remembered at all
@@xman9354 That's a good point of view, but if John Carpenter's The Thing was so panned by critics, then why is it seen as an important piece of pop culture even to this day?
I didn’t even know there was that many ape movies from back then. I always thought it was just one.
Sammmeee the Statue of Liberty one lol
There was also a tv series.
@@rikkiwear853 And an animated series the year after.
@@cptcarter1st yep
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In the original humans were destroyed by nuclear weapons. In the reboot they were destroyed by a virus. That's another continuity difference.
Humans were literally going to war against each other in dawn and in war
@@SupportGamin2025
Yes but no nukes were ever used it was more like small scale regional wars over resources as civilization collapsed same as in The Walking Dead and any other post Apocaliptic movie between the end of Rise and the start of Dawn and the last human vs human war was over how to deal with the new strain of ALZ that was making humans lose their cognitive functions the general wanted to kill all newly infected humans basically the same useless response we see with zombies in The Walking Dead. The third strain only left a very small remnant of humans that were immune to the third strain while most became cognitive impaired which is what we see in Kingdom but if anyone uses nukes it will be apes and not humans that launch them if not Maximus then another Ape megalomaniac like him.
@@SupportGamin2025no not dawn, they were just trying to communicate with the rest of the humans that were left in the world, but yeah in war they were
In the original, the reason apes rose to power was because there was a plague that wiped out all the dogs and cats so humans took in apes as pets and servants. There's no mention of this in Dawn. In fact there's a dog in Dawn and that's why Caesar asks if he's a pet. So basically Dawn can't be a prequel.
@@mrwog82 Yup and the apes evolved naturally that was also a misunderstanding of how evolution/adaptation worked at the time. In the reboot the retrovirus which was designed to replace diseased human brain cells DNA with healthy ones so James Franco character knew he was in effect creating ape/human hybrids out of the test subjects but it was the only shortcut way to test his ALZ1 retrovirus to then try to use it to cure Alzheimer and later other genetic degenerative diseases down the line. So yes the reboot retains many elements from the original but in essence its a completely new story or the story told from a more comprehensive scientifically speaking lens. Yes technically none of the reboot movies can possibly land in the 1968 movie because its a parallel story with its own origin story which resembles the original but is not the exact same.
I really want to thank for composing this timeline. I was a kid back in the 70s. I saw all the movies back then, but I didn’t speak english at that time, yet.
Ceasar's history is straight up Moses history, one by one, even the death in the arrival at the promised land
Everything goes back to Charlton Heston.
@jean-pierrea5803 😂😂😂
@@jean-pierrea5803Hahahaha
@@jean-pierrea5803 In the Mad Magazine parody of POTA, Taylor's first words are, "Let my people go."
One of the apes says, "Once he gets hold on an expression, he never lets go."
shut up libertarian
Yooooo I had no clue how nice the old movies were
The original and escape especially are worth watching
bruhhh
Ikr I’m like maybe I should check em out
The first one is easily a masterpiece. I just watched it and the political and philosophical commentary is even more relevant than it was before... sadly.
@@OneTakeVids Dude why are you just sayign those 2? The entire old saga is worth watching, each fim has it's own greatness, even the worst of them. Whether the timeline is a Temporal Shift or Temporal Paradox is still debatable, but they work pretty well. THe OG sets up the world with the mystery and action and adventure. Beneath shows us the folly of Man as the conflict between Man and Ape leads to Earth's destruction, then Escape starts off fun and mostly lighthearted and kind of adorable seein Cornelius and Zira who loved Taylor and helped Humans in the firt 2 films interact with the Human world, only for Man's fear of the future to drive Hasslein to kill them in a tragic ending, but Caesar's survival leads to the Ape uprising as he sees 2 things, his people bein unjustly enslaved, and the death of Armand, his Human adoptive father who instilled into him empathy and compassion, which is why despite the Ape rebellion being violant and destructive we see in Battle that Caesar, wants to build peaceful society between Man and Ape, he wants to be equals but is taking it slow as he wants to see if thes current generation of Man will be any different, a Gorilla named Alto leads his own rebellion and by the end dies, and while it seems there will be peae between Man and Ape, we don't know as we cut to 600 years later with peace, but there's still 1,400 years for things to change to how they were durign the OG film.
A really good summary of the whole franchise. I hope the reboot sequels continue until the time when Taylor lands on the planet.
they will 😊
They might have foreshadowed that in Kingdom of The Planet of The Apes
Sorry that makes no sense. They are not connected. How xan they be. They are not the same plot.
@@dolphinsrrEscape from The Planet of The Apes touches on different timelines leading to the same outcome, so the new Trilogy is just another "lane" leading to the same finish line.
I always appreciate these in depth high quality explanations. Didn’t know I needed one for planet of the apes. But I’m glad it’s here.
Glad you enjoyed! 🙏
So basically if Curious George went horribly wrong
That's surprisingly accurate.
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😂 oh dang maybe it's part of the loop
More like if George was done being curious Lol 😂
I love how all the movies are just telling the story of how history can't be changed and will just repeat itself.
No.
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Denial isn't just a river in Egypt.@@dariuszgaat5771
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One thing I never noticed is the extra awareness in Caesar after being exposed to the 113 drug. Dint notice till I got it pointed out to me
The 113 gave him the ability to speak. He already had a higher consciousness bc of being born with the 112. It's why he really is the only one who can speak at length, while the rest use sign language.
@@brooke5258 Koba spoke too, he was the test ape for the 113. Also Caesar stole the 113 drug and exposed the other apes which is the reason some can speak in war and their descendants in the new movie.
My theory, is that the Virus that killed the pets still exist but the apes are carriers. Becuase they went back in time the timeline was acclerated.
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@@Milt-g4f The Loss
This was actually my first thought so I’m pretty sure this is true. Whether they ever touch on it or not. That’s the only real explanation I have.
That's exactly what happened. The ship from EscapePOTA carried the virus and did in fact accelerate things in the new timeline. What took centuries in the first timeline only took decades in the new.
I love both stories mashed up, but the new remakes are 10x better. I love the tweaks they’ve made to the old ones and am excited to see how they continue to build on the franchise. I wouldn’t mind a show/mini series told from either perspective of humans or apes
Way to piss on the originals, my man. 😂
I love the old ones but I haven’t seen the new ones yet so I’m excited to see how they hold up to the original
Thats your opinon
When the "Dawn of the planet of the apes" was in cinemas I went to watch with a free ticket. I was so surprised how frickin' good it was. Top 5 movies I have seen in cinema.
Always hated the fact that ceasar as a chimpanzee looks for peace while Koba a bonobo is the violent one
did you watch the movie? their species has nothing to do with their nature, Ceaser is peaceful because he was raised by a loving human family while Koba is violent because he was tortured and experimented on. Its that simple
@@xcell_r4thr87 in real life chimpanzees tend to be more violent than bonobos
@@Player-pj9ktwith intelligence people can go against their nature tho
@@Player-pj9kt I disagree
@@Player-pj9ktok but the guy just explained to you an actual in movie reason why (if what you’re saying is true) the apes are different from they’re supposed nature
I forgot how much l loved the planet of the apes. This was my favorite when I was little and I mean the original I had all the dolls and the treehouse. I saw on TV the first one and it rekindled my love of it.
A correction at 3:00 the car did not belong to Charles, it belonged to the neighbor that is why the neighbor freaked out, and besides Charles had Alzheimer's so he wouldn't have owned a car like that anyway.
Yo if ot was the neighbors 1 why the fuck were the doors unlocked and 2 how to did he get the keys "actual questions"
@@elywahl9520 because the owner was washing his car, left the keys inside of it, and went into his house momentarily
@JessP1 ah okie that makes Hella sense my brain remembers that scene very differently lmfao for some reason I remember something about him believing he's going to work and then using his sons car to smash the other car, but as I said I was genuinely questioning it lmfao so again thank you
My take: the remake is better than the original
Yeah 😕
I agree, I think it’s because of what both age groups went through growing up tbh. The older ones came out during the Cold War and communism, so nukes were the thing everyone thought would kill us all. And then we’ve had the bird flu, Ebola, covid, and however many other sicknesses we’ve seen, so we got to watch a virus make apes superior
Yeah, the original looks like some B movies
@@DieselDaddy82 a good movie is a good movie and a bad movie is a bad one the fact that the reboots wouldnt have existed without the originals has no effect on the reboot being better in every way
@@DieselDaddy82it’s never that serious tho
Caesar's speech at the end of Conquest is one of my favorite performances by any actor, Roddy MacDowell was an absolutely phenomenal actor.
its crazy how many things that are reused from the old movies in the new movies like bright eyes, nova, simean flu etc.
As a fan of the original films, the mark walberg reboot was decent. I liked how they went with practical makeup, giving it that OG feeling. The new versions have been great, very well made. Im glad Hollywood did not botch these films like they have so many others.
I wish they would went og 😞 this cgi crap is just too much
@@nikoenciso01are you kidding? the cgi is the newer movies is literally breathtaking
@@nikoenciso01 Yeah, like the guy above. The CGI is amazing
@@Fightzpike it you don't have eyes, or just have standards, sure. They don't look bad, just not nearly as good as practical fx would look.
@@brokesmoke101i think this is just nostalgia talking. Cgi is admittedly far more realistic and immersive, and they use practical effects as far as motion tracking for facial expressions and ape movements, so its still ultimately acting behind the apes.
Great overview. The sequels to the original are on a completely different timeline and the Cesar origin story is obviously completely different. I think you hit the nail on the head when you said the new movies are more of a way of explaining how the world ended up controlled by apes like we saw in the original, I think the early movie references are more of a nod to the original than anything else.
I like how Draco thought he could handle a full grown chimp with a stun gun
I hope they make a faithful retelling of the first film to newer audiences. The theme of seeing what the apocalypse has evolved into by the hands of men is such a terrifying but sombre experience that recent humans should witness
Wasn’t familiar how deep this went but it goes hard
As someone who’d only watched the 2011 movie in the theater and that “No” and everyone’s reaction to Cesar speak forever engrained in my head, to me, this timeline hits hard (regardless of inconsistencies with the continuity) how it comes full circle with the “old” movies that take place in the distant future and the “new” movies that show what led to said future
Makes me wanna watch the entire new and old series of movies and come back to watch this timeline that should get me seasoned before watching KoTPotA
Well, the concept is truly beautiful. If we look past the continuity issues, it seems like the apes took over the planet, and in the future, men will become the primate. The fact that in the original 2 apes escape and land on Earth and they have a son Cesar is proof that Earth is doomed and that in the original they landed on the future Earth. I love these details and imagination to do a sci-fi like this.
I have been searching for this content the last couple of days. Thank you!
This series is so underrated thank you for making a timeline!
As a kid in the 70's the original franchise was so cool...still is...
I hate how people think the old movies are crap just because they are old. I get that it might not be their taste but they don’t even give them a chance.
I feel like this movie series should be a sign for humans to stop messing with apes
I love your enthusiasm in your voice, using it in the right moments when it comes to annunciating certain plot points.
I needed this tbh. To understand the sheer size of the two POTA universes
It's my understanding that the new films are timeline prime, before they first time loop and every loop thereafter happens slightly differently.
might be onto something
thank you for the recap for this magnificent trilogy. 👍
gonna see kingdom of the planet of the apes in a few hours, this helped me catch up again
Curious George lore
Okay , this is not complicated. The Reboot ape movies ARE NOT prequels to the original franchise. Anyone whose watched Escape from The Planet of The Apes and Conquest of The Planet of The Apes and paid close attention would know that. Their are three SEPARATE Apes films timelines. The first timeline is the original movies
The second timeline is the Tim Burton Remake
The third SEPARATE timeline is the reboot movies . Yes , they have similar ideas , characters and events from the original franchise but they apart of a new SEPARATE timeline . The Caesar in Rise is not the same Casaer as in Escape and Conquest. The Reboots are just that REBOOTS . Their shouldn't be any debate , the logic makes perfect sense.
The video literally comes to this same conclusion. Did you just not watch it?
@@swanhill5759 okay well if he did cool , my point still stands . Unfortunately their are people who don't pay attention to the fine details of the original movies and the reboot franchise. I mean people can come up with their own head canon if they want , but I follow the details of the stories of all ape movies and because of those details the reboot films are just reboots and not prequels . I appreciate you pointing it out the ending of the video to me . I just stopped watching the video and said what I said . I bet you were expecting me to get all mad and start cussing you out but I'm not gonna do that. This has been some productive feedback . I hope you have a very ducky day. Quack quack 😂🤣😂🤣😂😂😂🤣😂🤣😂
@@quack2265 stop using "their" when it should be "there"
@@tedy2777 I love that is all you got from what I typed , a grammer error. We got a grammer expert here people . Make sure to word your discussions well , he's giving out grades . He'll probably report you to the big bad bosses of RUclips and you'll get sent to the RUclips principal. 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣m
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No problem buddy! Here are a few more edits that should be made. "What got a grammer expert here people . " should end in a question mark. "Make sure to word your discussions well , he's giving out grades ." Don't use a comma to separate two independent clauses. Kudos to you for knowing "principal" as opposed to "principle". Proud of you little buddy!
9:08 Rocket isn't hunting with his son. Blue Eyes is hunting with Ash
I only remembered the first planet of the apes from the original set and remember an astronaut returning to earth when the planet is already taken over.
But I didnt know there was a series where the apes return in time
You're referencing the Tim Burton reboot. It more closely followed the ending from the book. In the book, it's a straight space voyage to a planet and back to earth. When he gets home, it has been taken over. I suspect when they made the original in '68, it was cheaper to have the ape planet be Earth than to film a return voyage.
The book:
He brings Nova back with him teaching her speech. If I remember right, she gives birth. The kid learning speech during the trip helps Nova to learn.
Great summary, good job on trying to connect the plot lines together of all of the movies
What an excellent and professional explanation
I'm 62 I grew up watching all
My child and grandchildren as well may 10 all will watch kingdom of the apes 2024
history and legacy
1:08:19 or we could speculate that in the reboot-prequels the ALZ 113 had another mutation that affected domestic pets?
This was so dope thanks bro
Thank you 🙏
James Francos green goblin face at 3:47, forgot about that from the movie. Always makes me chuckle.
37:50 I love how they referenced this scene in Madagascar😭🤣🤣
This is one of the best videos I've seen on youtube on the past few years! Congrats!!!
This is an awesome timeline
I watched every Ape movie/tv shows last year and thoroughly enjoyed them all.
It is tragic that Andy Serkis did not win any Oscar for any of the tribology. I've never witnessed such expressions on a face before and that too when the character he plays as is an Ape!! He was simply marvelous in these movies. Hardly 30 seconds is devoted to Caesars cremation in the Kingdom of the Planet of Apes. On the behalf of all the devoted fans of the Ape movies, I humbly apologize to Andy Serkis for not winning an Oscar, but in my mind you WON big time!!
I always liked that the Alpha Omega Cult kinda carried over with the Colonel in War.
that was dope .. .nice and casual. good job u
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I loved watching this, the hour just went by! It finally explained a lot of things for me.
Wonderful video editing and amazing narrating with a captivating voice.
This Saga is great and legendary, but at the same time, each film, both old and new, are filled with grief and sorrow... Such a great franchise!
Its one of those videos where I watched till the end. What a great hour!
48:00 Zira and Cornelius were the first fictional characters as a child that I had an emotional connection to. They represented the struggle to reach a stage of enlightenment in an unenlightened environment, and they were the first fictional characters that made me aware of that struggle.
Amazing work! I recall watching the original series with my father when I was a child as he grew up with those titles: this video brought up some memories!
Such a well made video! I really enjoy the way you tell the story. Timeline and plot are really clear
Yeah, it was at the point where Cornelius went back to the 70s.
Where the timeline started to feel like it got messy.
I looooove planet of apes. Thank you so much for doing this.
Great video!!! Thank you for the recaps - i cant wait to watch The End of the Time of the The Rise of the Return of the Planet of the Apes!
I’m watching this like it’s real documented history
😂 same
It is.
Best hour I've spent on youtube in awhile TY
Damn, I didn't even know about the TV Shows. I'm off to download them now, thanks!
Enjoy!
@@OneTakeVids For sure ✌️
Omg I just out of nowhere decided to watch these planet of the apes movies. Behold a new one is coming out😮
ive only watched the original 68 one and the reboot trilogy, but man those sequels go pretty crazy
Can I just say 1970s nova is BEAUTIFUL I couldn’t stop looking at her
She had an affair with the producer, he divorced his wife, then married her.
@@cptcarter1stDamn for reals? Lmfao. She was fine yo 🤣💯
I still feel that way after 50 years.
My favorite actress is Vivian Lake (1940s actress). So beautiful.
@cptcarter1st I've heard of VERONICA Lake, but never seen her movies. Never heard of Vivian.
Perfectly Explained 🏆
Thanks for the breakdown, I grew up in the 70's and own all 5 OG movies on DVD. My favorites are the Planet, Escape, and Conquest. Beneath and Battle are ..just ok but worth watching.
Itd be pretty cool if in the new one coming out, a human from the past comes to the future and the whole cycle is started 👀👀
Cesar saying “NO” for the first time ALWAYS gives me chills
imagine an ape in real life doing that...
Just watched it with my daughter and the look on her face was priceless
Thank you for the breakdown. There were certain scenes that I didn't understand before watching this breakdown.
You did a fantastic job with this timeline. Thank You.
Thank you for this amazing video 😅 luv the franchise even when Helston shout YOU MANIACS! 😅
I kinda wish you started with the old trilogy first never realized how many connections there are
Thank you for the overview! I would love to see a breakdown of the TV show, telefilms, cartoon, comics, and Tim Burton reboot ❤
Glad you enjoyed it!! And working on it!
Hey! I just wanted to say I just watched Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes, and wanted to thank you for this video (which I watched prior)
I never watched the OG PotA, so it was nice to notice the nods they made to those in the most recent installment.
Thank you very much for this video!
That’s a good summary refresh on the last 50 years of planet of the apes
I was always under the impression that the reboot was something different from the original series. 🤔
Especially, considering that there are a bunch of contradictions from the reboot and original series that lead me in this direction.
Yes it is. Different.
@@Amiral__Ditch thought so.
Great work !
Thank you Johnny! 🙏
SO AWESOME! Thanks for giving us the timeline. Now I can go back and see them in order. Great story
the original planet of the apes movies - despite of the gaping technical disadvantage in production - still give me a 100 times more goosebumps than any modern CGI.
dude, you talk so cool. every sentence is like a poem, its crazy. incredible work
4 movies in one. Great! Thanks dude
Learned a great deal about this series. Awesome retelling!!!
Can’t believe how much I enjoyed this ! Thank u & very well done !
This is so AWESOME ❤THANK YOU SO MUCH , I’ve watched the original Planet of the Apes with Charlton Heslton when it first came out on tv , and it’s amazing that they made a movie explaining from the moment they left earth until when Charlton lands again in the future. Thank you so much for this incredible work I do appreciate it . South Australia 🇦🇺
When i look at what the UFC has become I feel like Charlton Hesston pounding the sand.