I just realized I made two errors on my LighterPack and had the wrong weight in there for the quilt and I had two 20K battery banks listed which obviously wasn't the case. Actual base weight is 8.74 pounds and not the 9.6 pounds listed in the title. Sorry for the rookie mistake!
Thanks for correcting. I immediately questioned if the small power bank would be enough for you to charge both your watch and cellphone while watching it.
Reminds me of when I was 17, and skateboarded from thomasville GA, to Panama City FL. Traveled 400+ miles in just under 5 days. Destroyed my knee. Had a 12 pound bag, didn't bring anything food with me, urban environment and what not
I haven't tried an FKT. But to me it seems that planning and waiting for perfect conditions is everything. Things you bring on a normal hike but not when trying to break records might include... a rain jacket, tent, bag liner. Because it's not going to rain. Also, less water. It's going to be cool during the day meaning you can get by drinking less. Skip the quilt. It's going to be warm during the night. Then play the waiting game. Staying fit for months while waiting for the conditions to be good enough. It doesn't seem like something you can plan in advance.
Most people don't have the luxury of waiting for the perfect opportunity. Also, weather is always variable so not bringing things like a tent, rain jacket or quilt would be extremely risky. There have been tons of unsupported records set and broken and almost all of them bring these pretty necessary items.
Subscribing in part because of your helping out Darwin with footage after he erased one of his SD cards - AND incredibly impressed with your athleticism and drive. I'm doing the CT next summer and all I can say is, rest assured that your record has nothing to fear from me.
Thanks for the video and info. I notice that you have the Thermarest Neoair Uber-light. I have just purchased one, and was shocked and concerned by how flimsy is felt! I am shortly due to use it on a hike for the first time, and am a little more reeassured now that I see you have been using one without issues. Best of luck with the taail and beating the record, if yu haven't already done it by now. Cheers from Scotland!
I've had good luck with the Uberlite so far! I would recommend the Gossamer Gear 1/8 inch pad under the Uberlite if you can. It provides extra protection, warmth and makes a great sit pad!
2021 - the year you get a microphone with a deadcat. I recommend the Aputure Diety with a giant wind screen on it as a great budget option that doesn't scrimp on audio quality.
RE: Zerk: I like the freedom of packing without using a hip belt but think I need one (some of the time for sure). With all the food weight you are carrying how often do you use the hip belt on the Zerk? 2. How do you get the pack to ride on your chest and not just your shoulders and back? 3. What about Load Lifters - how do they help with my question of getting the pack to ride on the chest along with the shoulders and back? I am considering the Zerk or the Waymark Thru w/hip belt. Your thoughts are appreciated.
During most trips I do not use the hip belt and instead just use the belt on my fanny pack. For the CT FKT I used the hip belt the entire time which is not weight bearing and just keeps the pack closer to your waist and keeps it from bouncing. The wide shoulder straps and the chest clip allow you to dial it in so much of the weight sits across your chest instead of your shoulders. Over 30lbs though a lot of weight still rests on your shoulders which isn't super comfortable. I was just hiking with Darwin so we talked a lot about packs and I used his Waymark Thru for a bit. The Waymark is a great pack and the shoulder strap attachments as well as the load lifters are very unique to the pack. The Waymark sits much higher on your back than the Zerk which is a personal preference. Since it sits so high all the weight you are carrying is going to rest on your shoulders. I would say the Zerk probably handles weight better than the Waymark but for UL loads the Waymark is going to be hard to beat.
@@juicehikes5436 what a great response. From you response the Zerk might ride on my chest better providing a better balance between chest, shoulder, and back. I love all the pockets. I don't like transferring much weight to my hips. But need to transfer some. So it sounds like the Zerk minimal hip belt might work. Thanks so much.
Not a problem Rick, like I said a lot of it is personal preference but you probably can't go wrong with either pack assuming your base is light enough.
In curious if you've had any problems with the durability of your injinji socks? I have found that I get zero blisters wearing them but the 2 pairs I've gone through tore up extremely fast.
Funny you should ask, I have had a small hole in the big toe and it just a lot bigger on my run yesterday. They are great socks from a "no blister" perspective but they are not the most durable.
I didn't finish. Heat is my kryptonite and it was upper 90's on the first day and I couldn't keep any food or water down. I made two videos on my channel of the actual FKT if you want to check it out!
Juice please talk to us about ticks. I notice that your sleeping setup seems like it could leave you exposed to terrestrial bugs on the ground that could climb up your ground tarp. Are you not concerned about tick borne disease such as Lyme and Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever, or are you taking some other precaution to keep ticks out of your bed? I appreciate all the effort you put into creating these informative and inspirational videos. Thank you!
Thanks for tuning in! I treat my clothing and gear in Permethrin which really helps keep away the ticks. If I am expecting significant mosquitoes, flies, or ticks I have a Sea To Summit Nano Mosquito net that I add to the Pocket Tarp to keep them out.
So August 6th? Has this already happened then? And are you aware that "Legend" (hate that trail name lol) just set off trying to beat the same FKT as you?
It already happened. My stomach turned on me and I spent the first few days throwing up and not being able to hold anything down. I fell off pace because the fatigue was really extreme on days 2 and 3 because of not being able to eat. I saw that Legend is out there now, I heard he's struggling a bit too with stomach issues. Hopefully he can keep going, I'm definitely rooting for him!
Aw damn I'm sorry to hear that man, sounds rough. Are you gonna take another shot this year or wait? Appreciate the response, still very impressed by your attempt as well.
Thanks Tamie, unfortunately I won't give it another go this year. I am married and have two kids so one big attempt like this is about all I can afford at this time. Part 1 of my Colorado Trial FKT attempt comes out this Thursday!
Neither, it was 95 degrees and super exposed on day 1. My stomach turned on me in the heat. I've had this happen during ultra marathons but never hiking. I guess there's a first time for everything.
I'm really interested in your experience with the pocket tarp which I also own but haven't deployed yet. Did you not experience bugs on the CT? Have you used it in any serious rain or wind? Unfortunately there's just not a lot of good videos on RUclips on it.
Hey Bri, the pocket tarp is awesome! What you get for the weight will be hard to be beat by anything else. When you pitch it stake out the back two corners first then insert the trekking pole at 120 or 125 cm at a slight angle. Then stake out the front two corners followed by the other tie outs for the perfect pitch. It can get a little finicky if you don't stake out just the back two corners first. I used the pocket tarp on every trip in 2020 except the last one up in the Boundary Waters a few weeks ago and it has been excellent. Most of the places I went didn't have a ton of bugs but thats just part of something you have to deal with under a tarp. I never had any big issues but you can get the Sea to Summit bug netting which is only like 3 oz if you are worried about it. I've had it in some pretty harsh conditions, rain, wind, hail and snow and its performed flawlessly. I typically pitch it at 125 cm for the extra room but if the weather looks really bad I'll lower it to 120 cm which helps. Good stakes go a long way, I use the MSR Mini Groundhogs. My buddy Bigfoot did a pretty good review on the pocket tarp, I'll link it here ruclips.net/video/06wkiSvvjAo/видео.html. Hope you enjoy the pocket tarp! It has served me well so far! -Juice
Thanks Devin! These specific wipes are biodegradable so I buried them on that trip. I have since switched to a bidet and have no plans to return to any kinds of wipes or TP.
I keep going back a forward too. But you know I am comfortable with my standard pack and I feel I sleep better with a few extra things that I like to. Ok use it is usually a vacation for more so I keep adding back in a few comfort things . But ultra light has its days on trip we cover a lot of ground quickly. Those are more our work out trips vs vaction trips. Nice video! I just found your channel and I’m hocked and subscribing happy to help support the outdoor hiking Society ! Lol
I've actually never owned a Zpacks quilt. I have another 20 degree quilt made by Hammock Gear but not by Zpacks. The reason I switched is that I am testing that 20 degree quilt from Enlightened Equipment because they are experimenting with a new type of fabric. Both quilts are great!
@@juicehikes5436 Roger that, I hope your channel quickly gets the respect it deserves. All the best! I've used your pack list to help with development of mine...lots of ideas from viewing it.
Thanks! Glad you were able to take something from the videos. Just remember to get out and test because gear and how it works can be a personal preference!
Usually I bring my EE Torrid Apex jacket but when you are hiking past dark most days a down jacket just isn't necessary since you're not spending much time in camp. If you're cold at camp just grab your quilt/sleeping bag.
Could have been better. Temps were mid 90s and my stomach turned on me and I couldn’t hold down food or water. I bailed on the FKT but continued on to hike the trail. I made a two part video that’s posted on my channel.
@@juicehikes5436 But what is a 4 Season Ultralight base weight...? Four Season Winter...3 season Spring, Summer and Fall, a 4 Season Ultralight base weight would include the winter...so a 4 Season Ultralight base weight has to be more then a 3 Season Ultralight base weight?
It would definitely weigh more than a 3 season kit and I doubt it would be considered "ultralight" since it would would almost have to be over 10 lbs. You would need at least 20 degree quilts, warmer jackets, pants, extra socks, potentially boots, a double layer tent etc. When I've gone out in winter I typically use a hammock and use a 40 degree under quilt with a 20 degree under quilt over that for extra insulation. The clothing/boots needed to stay comfortable/safe typically add the most weight. A lot of the gear in this video would not be realistic for a winter trip.
@@juicehikes5436 I was camped for a couple of days in March, in Cottonwood, Arizona it was 80 degree in March that years...I traveled up Oak Creek Canyon in Sedona, Arizona and set up camp...I woke up the next day to snow all around me. I was sure glad that I had a 4 Season Ultralight base weight with me...I was carrying my Black Diamond Mega light...and a 0 degree down mummy bag... I learn something every time I watch one of your videos...
Wait am I crazy -- this is extremely heavy for an fkt attempt, right? 1.5lb pack, 20* quilt, 20K mah battery bank, fleece instead of windshirt, rain jacket instead of a cheap stadium poncho, the list goes on. Does anyone have any update? I'm guessing he didn't make it ya?
Hey Jeff, this kit is probably a little different than most kits you would use for something like a regular thru-hike or shorter 3-5 day FKT. Since this was an unsupported attempt you can't do things like resupply, charge your electronics or swap out for warmer gear. I needed a pack that can carry 9-10 days (24 lbs) of food plus gear which means I needed a pack that is larger and carries weight better than most ultralight packs (I've got a ton of them). It can get down in the 20's in Colorado in August so I went with a warmer quilt plus with EE's 7D material it weighs about the same as most other cottage companies 30-degree quilts (I could have gotten away with a 30 degree for sure). The 20K battery is a necessity because you can't charge any of your electronics and you have to prove that you accomplished the FKT using multiple GPS devices so I needed to keep my phone, GPS devices, and headlamp charged for 10 days. When it comes to the fleece vs wind shirt it's a personal preference but I much prefer the fleece/rain jacket combo than having a wind shirt, poncho plus some sort of warm insulation layer. Plus my rain jacket has a breathability rating of 80,000 g/m2 which for me replaces the need for a wind shirt since the rain jacket pulls double duty. I've set several unsupported FKT's in the past so this is what I know works for me.
@@juicehikes5436 Hey Juice, thanks for the reply. - There are numerous packs can can carry 10 days of food that weigh at or less than a pound. For example, I believe John Z did it in a prototype Palante. - Charging your electronics can be done with a solar panel -- for example a Lixada solar panel, an mpb21 battery and power module would be just under 5.5oz. That's already an insane amount saved right there. - There are plenty of 30* quilts that are at or under a pound. However I don't feel comfortable recommending any because everyone sleeps differently on a cold/warm spectrum - A windshirt can keep most warm while hiking down into the low thirties. Fleece has its place no doubt, but the weight and volume of a windshirt is vastly better for this type of light and fast use. - A 1.5oz cheap poncho still makes quite the difference over a rain jacket if you're only expecting to encounter afternoon thunderstorms - There are numerous other things but they'd be pretty nitpicky and would save maybe 10oz at most. The above items are just the big things I see. I don't mean any offense, I'm just trying to help you out. You know as well as I shaving even a couple pounds is MASSIVE when trying to do multiple 50+ mile days. What other FKTs have you done? I could only find the one for the Superior Hiking Trail.
No problem Jeff, and I didn't take any offense. I love talking gear and I appreciate any advice I can get. Like I said before I think gear is personal and even though you can go lighter doesn't always mean you should. A long FKT is not the time to bring out your lightest kit contrary to popular belief. You have a lot of "what if" type scenarios you have to think about since that could mean the difference between being able to continue or having to bail. I've got kits that range from 6-12 pounds depending on the type of trip but a 9-10 day unsupported FKT is just different. I'm not saying this is the best or lightest, it's just what works for me for a 9-10 day unsupported FKT attempt of the Colorado Trail specifically. I own the V2 and quite a few other 16 oz or less packs and the Zerk just carries weight better when you're moving fast. I used the V2 on my SHT FKT and it beat up my shoulders with an 8-day food carry. The Zerk is not the lightest and I definitely have my gripes about it but it works until I find something better as a 10-day food carry pack. I'm open to suggestions but every pack a pound or less that I've owned or used really struggles once you go over 25-30 lbs and have to carry it for 14-18 hours a day. I think relying on a solar panel would be super risky for a longer FKT. You would be relying on good weather and plenty of sunshine to charge your necessary gear. If the panel would break or not provide the juice you need you wouldn't be able to use your phone, hike at night, your GPS devices would die and you couldn't prove that you actually set the FKT. I know you could say that about a battery bank as well but they are pretty durable and reliable in my experience and you know how much juice they provide. I haven't used the brand of panel you mentioned but the ones I have used take a long time to charge anything and that's assuming you have all day sunshine and your in an exposed area. Maybe I need to give them another try though if this one is different. For quilts, I haven't seen many 30 degree quilts that are at or under a pound but that's just really looking at the bigger cottage manufacturers like Nunatak, Katabatic Gear, UGQ, Enlightened Equipment, Hammock Gear etc. I need a long version and pretty much all of their 30 degree 900-950 fill long quilts come in at around 19 oz with EE offering one that's around 17 oz. I also told EE I would use this quilt on the FKT since its a prototype material I'm testing for them. I've used wind shirts pretty extensively and I enjoy them but hiking with a wind shirt as your only warm layer is pretty risky in the Rockies. If you can pair it with a puffy of some sort you would be fine but a puffy is worthless as an active layer. I agree that a wind shirt can easily take you down into the 30's and provide a significant weight and volume reduction but I don't think it's right for your only insulation layer on a longer FKT. It's 100% worth the weight for me unless you know where I can get some Grade A unicorn hide. You should check out the rain jacket I use, its the best rain jacket on the market in my opinion. The Shakedry material is highly breathable and a permanent beading surface meaning the material will fail before the jacket wets out. If your rain jacket never wets out why would you need to add a 1.5 oz rain poncho to it? I appreciate the feedback Jeff, you've obviously got a lot of miles under your belt and a lot of experience with gear. There are definitely areas I could cut weight but there are risks with those choices. Oh, and you made me go back and look over my LighterPack and I found two pretty big issues. I had the wrong weight in there for the quilt it's only 20.3 oz for the 20 degree and I had put a quantity of two battery banks so that dropped the overall base to 8.74 pounds which still isn't crazy light but it's almost a pound lighter than the 9.6 lbs I put in the title. If you've got some recommendations on packs or lighter quilts I'll definitely check them out! -Juice
Hi! Really enjoy your videos! How is the backpack holding up? Do you prefer the zerk over palante? I am thinking of buying a zerk but a bit concerned about the durability. specially the material against the back, and also the mesh parts. Or to be more specific, Is the material against the back dubbled? Is it nylon under and then the soft material against the back? What is your opinion about that? Also the main material is it similar to robic like the gossamear packs? Really appreciate you opinion! Best regards Mikael
Thanks Mikael! The Zerk is holding up pretty well but it's definitely not the most durable pack I've owned. I have a few holes in the mesh on the outer pockets and some wear on the bottom of the pack. Both the Zerk and Palante packs are great but different. The Zerk has a lot of extra pockets on the shoulders and outside pockets and handles weight a little better than the V2. The material on the back is not doubled and seems thin but has zero wear after 500+ miles and it's pretty soft against the back compared to a Dyneema pack. It has the softer material against your back, then the pad insert which is in a pocket in the main body of the pack. The V2 is maybe a little more durable, a little more simple and has the sweet fancy bottom pocket. Both are great but I would maybe pick the V2 over the Zerk if I had to choose (if you've got a baseweight 10lbs or under). Hope this helps!
@@juicehikes5436 thank you so much really helped! Hope you crushed the record! Keep Up the good work and I will definetley follow your chanel really great stuff!
Carefull with recomending Leukotape (or Tensotape) for all hikers. I had some seriously reactions to that tape, though know it works for must of the people. Those with sensitive skin, need to go away from it. Instead of any tape at all, use Gel liners, socks or very good cushioning insoles like the Sofsole AIRR. Toe gel works too pretty good.
Good call but like with a lot of things gear is particular to the individual so try it out before committing to using on a hike. I haven't experienced any reactions or anything personally but I'm sure some people do. Like you mentioned, prevention is the best method, the tape is for damage control.
@@juicehikes5436 I have completed 4 long march Nijmegen in the armed forces. The Medic Bay, mostly use and recommend Tenso and Leukotape for most people. Apparently there are like 1/5 persons who react baddly to the tape. Just keep that in mind :)
@@juicehikes5436 I can totally dig that , asides from that , great video dude I’m going to adopt your socks and shirt tip for dang sure - other than I know I’m backpack will be heavy due to my tent, (2 rifles ,ammo)&sleeping bag that will be attached to my pack .the rest I’m trying to get the lightest shit earth has to offer to at least lighten that load. Long story!
Hey Juice, sorry, I left out important descriptive info. I am referring to your lighter pack link for the video where your pack bag blew away. In that video, you reference the Anker 10,000. Your lighter pack weight, for the Anker 10,000 is below the stated weight, by Anker. I verified this by weighing mine. You have a bad scale or made an error.
Wow, not sure how this went but 51 miles a day moving at a 2.5-3 mph rate means you have to be hiking along for 17-20 hours a day. That's pretty brutal.
I had to tap by the end of day 2. The extreme heat got to me and I was throwing up constantly. I released a few videos because I continued on after I bailed on the FKT.
The pack is rated for 30 pounds. With the food in your other video you’re at 34 pounds, and that doesn’t include water. Not sure I’d use that pack with that much food.
Thanks for the concern but weight ratings on packs are about as reliable as EPA estimates on cars. A cardinal rule is always test your gear and I’ve been using this pack for trips and training for the past year loading it up with 35+ pounds and carrying it on 50+ mile days so I know it can handle the weight comfortably.
@@juicehikes5436 You should rethink Ibuprofen, it's been linked to some serious adverse reactions in athletes. www.triathlete.com/culture/news/ironman-should-rethink-its-aleve-partnership/ I'm a kidney transplant recipient and ultracyclist. Due to the increased risks of kidney damage, I was advised not to take Vitamin I and haven't in 20 years. Yes, it sucks, especially now that I'm older (more aches and pains) but I get by ok. I've ridden my bike across the country a couple times, hiked across the Grand Canyon, etc. Hope you set a new FKT.
Okay, I'm excited! Good luck! Edited to add: Wait! I forgot that is how I know you! You thru-hiked the Centennial Trail. I'm planning to do it next month.
@@juicehikes5436 it gives you personality , thank you by the way, you have been super useful to me, im from spain and going to do a thru hike across the "transpirenaica" trail , also called gr-11, on the pyrinees yhis summer!(500 miles)
Cool! Because you have to prove you did it you do have to carry things like larger power banks, Garmin mini, plus that Zerk is pretty beefy. I've since moved on from it. You can clearly go lighter.
Hey Matt, thanks for watching. This wasn't meant to be a recommendation, more an overview of everything I personally needed for the trip. Packing wayyyyy too cold is a matter of perspective. When you are moving fast all day long you don't need a ton to keep you warm since your internal heater is running constantly. This gear was exactly what I needed and was never cold.
You really should up grade you blade 😆 whatcha gonna do with that ? Scare off a bug 😆 !! . stab a crawler 😆 ! . bigger blade the better help you have for fire wood and food and shelter if your tent happens to get ruined by something or a storm that hit you outta Nowhere lol
Nah, you spend enough time outside and you get to know what you really need. The knife for slicing cheese/meat and the scissors to cut rope if needed, that's about it. If things really hit the fan I would just press on and hike out. If I'm injured, wet, and my shelter is wrecked that's an extreme circumstance that almost no one ever finds themselves in. I don't pack for my fears.
@@juicehikes5436 all Im saying is you really think of your safety bud ! . now days people can't even hit the trails without turning up missing till there body's have been found stripped down to nothing no hands or feet or even hea lol . real shit buddy you can't trust nobody out there !?
Have some respect? Who says that? It was windy and I was using a dead cat wind screen. Not much you can do when it's that windy. I've got a few newer videos where there's no wind noise ruclips.net/video/dB6JBOQQMZM/видео.html
@@juicehikes5436 www.gorewear.com/us/en-us/m-gore-tex-cap-100002.html?dwvar_100002_color=0800&cgid=gw_men_accessories_headwear yes a $45 hat is just a normal hat. u dumb or something?
@@mandarpatki8869 easy buddy. The link you sent is for a different hat and it was given to me for free so I never looked into the price. If I was paying for a hat, I wouldn't spend $45.
@@juicehikes5436 lol if u dont got a problem in knowing the cost of ur gear and then make a video about it then u do u. Just saying that u look pretty dumb calling a hat that's worth the cost of most shoes as a basic hat.
For transparency and ease of understanding I went by base weight for the video which is everything minus consumables which would be food and water in this case. I made a separate video on the food and the weight that was associated with that. Also, the phone weight was included in the base weight. I mentioned it in the video that I was using my phone to film which is why I couldn’t show it. If you look in the description of the video you will find my LighterPack link which lists the phone which is a Pixel 4 XL and has all the gear and weights of everything else. I don’t disagree that food and water should be included in your “total” or “starting weight” which is why I made a separate video.
Whats next? How about walking backwards, or doing cartwheels, or doing the hokie pokie. That's it - the fastest backwards, cartwheels, 500 miles thru the rocky mountains. You gonna get some groupies for all that effort, right? Hollywood's gonna call your agent if your lucky. Whatever dude, frat boy.
If you have to do drugs the whole time what's the point? I think it would do better to do it on your own steam. If you can't do it on your own steam you're not really doing it. The drugs are doing it.
#1 Thanks for watching! #2 There’s a huge difference between putting something in your pack and actually using it. I only took Ibuprofen a few times the whole trip and prefer not to unless I am injured. This was a “just incase” stash incase something major occurred. #3 “Doing Drugs” is a really extreme way to look at taking something extremely mild like Ibuprofen especially in a culture where almost everyone is taking some sort of medication for something. Most of which are much worse for you than Ibuprofen. #4 There’s a reason thru-hikers refer to Ibuprofen as Vitamin-I. It’s a super common part of many long distance hikers daily diet, and that’s just when they are doing 15-25 mile days.
@@juicehikes5436 I Appreciate the response. But I am 62 years old and I still feel like using isopropan is a crutch. I wouldn't feel like I was actually accomplishing it on my own.
@@juicehikes5436 "just incase" of what? 10 other people need some. If you need 100 ibuprofen in 9 days. Then you need a helicopter to the hospital. Also what world do you live in where most people are taking medication. That's pretty presumptuous of you.
I just realized I made two errors on my LighterPack and had the wrong weight in there for the quilt and I had two 20K battery banks listed which obviously wasn't the case. Actual base weight is 8.74 pounds and not the 9.6 pounds listed in the title. Sorry for the rookie mistake!
dumbshit use metric units
Thanks for correcting. I immediately questioned if the small power bank would be enough for you to charge both your watch and cellphone while watching it.
Thank you for posting your detailed equipment list.
Reminds me of when I was 17, and skateboarded from thomasville GA, to Panama City FL. Traveled 400+ miles in just under 5 days. Destroyed my knee. Had a 12 pound bag, didn't bring anything food with me, urban environment and what not
That sounds like a pretty crazy adventure!
I hope you listen to your body when it needs rest! So important.
Always!
I haven't tried an FKT. But to me it seems that planning and waiting for perfect conditions is everything. Things you bring on a normal hike but not when trying to break records might include... a rain jacket, tent, bag liner. Because it's not going to rain. Also, less water. It's going to be cool during the day meaning you can get by drinking less. Skip the quilt. It's going to be warm during the night.
Then play the waiting game. Staying fit for months while waiting for the conditions to be good enough. It doesn't seem like something you can plan in advance.
Most people don't have the luxury of waiting for the perfect opportunity. Also, weather is always variable so not bringing things like a tent, rain jacket or quilt would be extremely risky. There have been tons of unsupported records set and broken and almost all of them bring these pretty necessary items.
Subscribing in part because of your helping out Darwin with footage after he erased one of his SD cards - AND incredibly impressed with your athleticism and drive. I'm doing the CT next summer and all I can say is, rest assured that your record has nothing to fear from me.
Thanks! Darwin is a good dude, I was happy to help! Enjoy the CT next summer, it's a phenomenal trial.
Nice setup! Be careful with ibuprofen overdosing and GI bleeds.
Looking forward to seeing how it goes. Hope your legs hold out, that is a lot of long days. Good luck 😃
Thanks for the video and info. I notice that you have the Thermarest Neoair Uber-light. I have just purchased one, and was shocked and concerned by how flimsy is felt! I am shortly due to use it on a hike for the first time, and am a little more reeassured now that I see you have been using one without issues. Best of luck with the taail and beating the record, if yu haven't already done it by now. Cheers from Scotland!
I've had good luck with the Uberlite so far! I would recommend the Gossamer Gear 1/8 inch pad under the Uberlite if you can. It provides extra protection, warmth and makes a great sit pad!
2021 - the year you get a microphone with a deadcat. I recommend the Aputure Diety with a giant wind screen on it as a great budget option that doesn't scrimp on audio quality.
I've got one!
Yea, yea Jayj!! Excited to hear about the trail + how you do!
Did the nylofume pack liner hold up? Any holes or rips?
Sure did! No holes and held up great.
RE: Zerk: I like the freedom of packing without using a hip belt but think I need one (some of the time for sure). With all the food weight you are carrying how often do you use the hip belt on the Zerk? 2. How do you get the pack to ride on your chest and not just your shoulders and back? 3. What about Load Lifters - how do they help with my question of getting the pack to ride on the chest along with the shoulders and back? I am considering the Zerk or the Waymark Thru w/hip belt. Your thoughts are appreciated.
During most trips I do not use the hip belt and instead just use the belt on my fanny pack. For the CT FKT I used the hip belt the entire time which is not weight bearing and just keeps the pack closer to your waist and keeps it from bouncing. The wide shoulder straps and the chest clip allow you to dial it in so much of the weight sits across your chest instead of your shoulders. Over 30lbs though a lot of weight still rests on your shoulders which isn't super comfortable. I was just hiking with Darwin so we talked a lot about packs and I used his Waymark Thru for a bit. The Waymark is a great pack and the shoulder strap attachments as well as the load lifters are very unique to the pack. The Waymark sits much higher on your back than the Zerk which is a personal preference. Since it sits so high all the weight you are carrying is going to rest on your shoulders. I would say the Zerk probably handles weight better than the Waymark but for UL loads the Waymark is going to be hard to beat.
@@juicehikes5436 what a great response. From you response the Zerk might ride on my chest better providing a better balance between chest, shoulder, and back. I love all the pockets. I don't like transferring much weight to my hips. But need to transfer some. So it sounds like the Zerk minimal hip belt might work. Thanks so much.
Not a problem Rick, like I said a lot of it is personal preference but you probably can't go wrong with either pack assuming your base is light enough.
@@juicehikes5436 base weight is 13. But since I am not as young as I used to be how the weight carries becomes more and more important to me.
Both would be solid for you then. I wish the Zerk had load lifters like the Waymark, seems like a no brainer to me.
Love my zerk 40!
Great pack!
Can you go over your nutrition for those days unsupported?
I did a whole video on it! ruclips.net/video/LrZ83-5PZqs/видео.html
In curious if you've had any problems with the durability of your injinji socks? I have found that I get zero blisters wearing them but the 2 pairs I've gone through tore up extremely fast.
Funny you should ask, I have had a small hole in the big toe and it just a lot bigger on my run yesterday. They are great socks from a "no blister" perspective but they are not the most durable.
What was your time? I'm planning on going for a 117-mile stretch on the Colorado Trail this summer.
I didn't finish. Heat is my kryptonite and it was upper 90's on the first day and I couldn't keep any food or water down. I made two videos on my channel of the actual FKT if you want to check it out!
@@juicehikes5436 Thanks I watched them. My kryptonite is the cold. Hopefully, I'll be ok. Happy trails!
Juice please talk to us about ticks. I notice that your sleeping setup seems like it could leave you exposed to terrestrial bugs on the ground that could climb up your ground tarp. Are you not concerned about tick borne disease such as Lyme and Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever, or are you taking some other precaution to keep ticks out of your bed? I appreciate all the effort you put into creating these informative and inspirational videos. Thank you!
Thanks for tuning in! I treat my clothing and gear in Permethrin which really helps keep away the ticks. If I am expecting significant mosquitoes, flies, or ticks I have a Sea To Summit Nano Mosquito net that I add to the Pocket Tarp to keep them out.
Very informative especially for a first timers
Wanted you to go over your food for those days please
How’d you do on the trip? I’d like to see another video on food.
Trip Video - ruclips.net/video/ZeeokQHu8cE/видео.html
Food Video - ruclips.net/video/LrZ83-5PZqs/видео.html
So August 6th? Has this already happened then? And are you aware that "Legend" (hate that trail name lol) just set off trying to beat the same FKT as you?
It already happened. My stomach turned on me and I spent the first few days throwing up and not being able to hold anything down. I fell off pace because the fatigue was really extreme on days 2 and 3 because of not being able to eat.
I saw that Legend is out there now, I heard he's struggling a bit too with stomach issues. Hopefully he can keep going, I'm definitely rooting for him!
Aw damn I'm sorry to hear that man, sounds rough. Are you gonna take another shot this year or wait? Appreciate the response, still very impressed by your attempt as well.
Thanks Tamie, unfortunately I won't give it another go this year. I am married and have two kids so one big attempt like this is about all I can afford at this time. Part 1 of my Colorado Trial FKT attempt comes out this Thursday!
Neither, it was 95 degrees and super exposed on day 1. My stomach turned on me in the heat. I've had this happen during ultra marathons but never hiking. I guess there's a first time for everything.
Look into how Legend was given his name. Might surprise you.
I'm really interested in your experience with the pocket tarp which I also own but haven't deployed yet. Did you not experience bugs on the CT? Have you used it in any serious rain or wind? Unfortunately there's just not a lot of good videos on RUclips on it.
Hey Bri, the pocket tarp is awesome! What you get for the weight will be hard to be beat by anything else. When you pitch it stake out the back two corners first then insert the trekking pole at 120 or 125 cm at a slight angle. Then stake out the front two corners followed by the other tie outs for the perfect pitch. It can get a little finicky if you don't stake out just the back two corners first.
I used the pocket tarp on every trip in 2020 except the last one up in the Boundary Waters a few weeks ago and it has been excellent. Most of the places I went didn't have a ton of bugs but thats just part of something you have to deal with under a tarp. I never had any big issues but you can get the Sea to Summit bug netting which is only like 3 oz if you are worried about it. I've had it in some pretty harsh conditions, rain, wind, hail and snow and its performed flawlessly. I typically pitch it at 125 cm for the extra room but if the weather looks really bad I'll lower it to 120 cm which helps. Good stakes go a long way, I use the MSR Mini Groundhogs. My buddy Bigfoot did a pretty good review on the pocket tarp, I'll link it here ruclips.net/video/06wkiSvvjAo/видео.html.
Hope you enjoy the pocket tarp! It has served me well so far!
-Juice
Nice video. Quick question regarding the wipes, I am going to guess you carry those out and dispose of properly?
Thanks Devin! These specific wipes are biodegradable so I buried them on that trip. I have since switched to a bidet and have no plans to return to any kinds of wipes or TP.
Awesome video! I'd love to know what's on the menu. Best of luck!
Thanks for watching. Here you go! ruclips.net/video/LrZ83-5PZqs/видео.html
Please post your experience as soon as you can. I’ve always been kinda in between standard and ultra lite. Love these videos
Will do!
I keep going back a forward too. But you know I am comfortable with my standard pack and I feel I sleep better with a few extra things that I like to. Ok use it is usually a vacation for more so I keep adding back in a few comfort things . But ultra light has its days on trip we cover a lot of ground quickly. Those are more our work out trips vs vaction trips.
Nice video! I just found your channel and I’m hocked and subscribing happy to help support the outdoor hiking Society ! Lol
Wait wait, did you say...50 miles plus a day???
Yup!
Did he accomplish his goal?
Checkout part one of my CT journey here ruclips.net/video/ZeeokQHu8cE/видео.html.
Nah he gave up.
Where is your zpacks quilt? It's a 20 too, why did you switch.
I've actually never owned a Zpacks quilt. I have another 20 degree quilt made by Hammock Gear but not by Zpacks. The reason I switched is that I am testing that 20 degree quilt from Enlightened Equipment because they are experimenting with a new type of fabric. Both quilts are great!
@@juicehikes5436 Roger that, I hope your channel quickly gets the respect it deserves. All the best! I've used your pack list to help with development of mine...lots of ideas from viewing it.
Thanks! Glad you were able to take something from the videos. Just remember to get out and test because gear and how it works can be a personal preference!
Where's the down jacket?
Usually I bring my EE Torrid Apex jacket but when you are hiking past dark most days a down jacket just isn't necessary since you're not spending much time in camp. If you're cold at camp just grab your quilt/sleeping bag.
Like your style dude- how did it go?
Could have been better. Temps were mid 90s and my stomach turned on me and I couldn’t hold down food or water. I bailed on the FKT but continued on to hike the trail. I made a two part video that’s posted on my channel.
@Juice Hikes I'll check it out - loved the kit info.
What is the Base Weight for a Ultralight 4 season gear kit?
It completely depends on the time of year and the expected temperature. I'll be putting out a gear video soon about a late fall kit using a hammock.
@@juicehikes5436 But what is a 4 Season Ultralight base weight...? Four Season Winter...3 season Spring, Summer and Fall, a 4 Season Ultralight base weight would include the winter...so a 4 Season Ultralight base weight has to be more then a 3 Season Ultralight base weight?
It would definitely weigh more than a 3 season kit and I doubt it would be considered "ultralight" since it would would almost have to be over 10 lbs. You would need at least 20 degree quilts, warmer jackets, pants, extra socks, potentially boots, a double layer tent etc. When I've gone out in winter I typically use a hammock and use a 40 degree under quilt with a 20 degree under quilt over that for extra insulation. The clothing/boots needed to stay comfortable/safe typically add the most weight. A lot of the gear in this video would not be realistic for a winter trip.
@@juicehikes5436 I was camped for a couple of days in March, in Cottonwood, Arizona it was 80 degree in March that years...I traveled up Oak Creek Canyon in Sedona, Arizona and set up camp...I woke up the next day to snow all around me. I was sure glad that I had a 4 Season Ultralight base weight with me...I was carrying my Black Diamond Mega light...and a 0 degree down mummy bag...
I learn something every time I watch one of your videos...
Man, glad you had that gear. Crazy how the weather can change on a dime!
Kewl.
Doncha use any stove or cooking gear ?
Usually I cook but not on an FKT where I am hiking from dawn into the night every day. I just ate pre-packaged food just for this trip.
Wait am I crazy -- this is extremely heavy for an fkt attempt, right? 1.5lb pack, 20* quilt, 20K mah battery bank, fleece instead of windshirt, rain jacket instead of a cheap stadium poncho, the list goes on. Does anyone have any update? I'm guessing he didn't make it ya?
Hey Jeff, this kit is probably a little different than most kits you would use for something like a regular thru-hike or shorter 3-5 day FKT. Since this was an unsupported attempt you can't do things like resupply, charge your electronics or swap out for warmer gear. I needed a pack that can carry 9-10 days (24 lbs) of food plus gear which means I needed a pack that is larger and carries weight better than most ultralight packs (I've got a ton of them). It can get down in the 20's in Colorado in August so I went with a warmer quilt plus with EE's 7D material it weighs about the same as most other cottage companies 30-degree quilts (I could have gotten away with a 30 degree for sure). The 20K battery is a necessity because you can't charge any of your electronics and you have to prove that you accomplished the FKT using multiple GPS devices so I needed to keep my phone, GPS devices, and headlamp charged for 10 days. When it comes to the fleece vs wind shirt it's a personal preference but I much prefer the fleece/rain jacket combo than having a wind shirt, poncho plus some sort of warm insulation layer. Plus my rain jacket has a breathability rating of 80,000 g/m2 which for me replaces the need for a wind shirt since the rain jacket pulls double duty. I've set several unsupported FKT's in the past so this is what I know works for me.
@@juicehikes5436 Hey Juice, thanks for the reply.
- There are numerous packs can can carry 10 days of food that weigh at or less than a pound. For example, I believe John Z did it in a prototype Palante.
- Charging your electronics can be done with a solar panel -- for example a Lixada solar panel, an mpb21 battery and power module would be just under 5.5oz. That's already an insane amount saved right there.
- There are plenty of 30* quilts that are at or under a pound. However I don't feel comfortable recommending any because everyone sleeps differently on a cold/warm spectrum
- A windshirt can keep most warm while hiking down into the low thirties. Fleece has its place no doubt, but the weight and volume of a windshirt is vastly better for this type of light and fast use.
- A 1.5oz cheap poncho still makes quite the difference over a rain jacket if you're only expecting to encounter afternoon thunderstorms
- There are numerous other things but they'd be pretty nitpicky and would save maybe 10oz at most. The above items are just the big things I see.
I don't mean any offense, I'm just trying to help you out. You know as well as I shaving even a couple pounds is MASSIVE when trying to do multiple 50+ mile days. What other FKTs have you done? I could only find the one for the Superior Hiking Trail.
No problem Jeff, and I didn't take any offense. I love talking gear and I appreciate any advice I can get. Like I said before I think gear is personal and even though you can go lighter doesn't always mean you should. A long FKT is not the time to bring out your lightest kit contrary to popular belief. You have a lot of "what if" type scenarios you have to think about since that could mean the difference between being able to continue or having to bail. I've got kits that range from 6-12 pounds depending on the type of trip but a 9-10 day unsupported FKT is just different. I'm not saying this is the best or lightest, it's just what works for me for a 9-10 day unsupported FKT attempt of the Colorado Trail specifically.
I own the V2 and quite a few other 16 oz or less packs and the Zerk just carries weight better when you're moving fast. I used the V2 on my SHT FKT and it beat up my shoulders with an 8-day food carry. The Zerk is not the lightest and I definitely have my gripes about it but it works until I find something better as a 10-day food carry pack. I'm open to suggestions but every pack a pound or less that I've owned or used really struggles once you go over 25-30 lbs and have to carry it for 14-18 hours a day.
I think relying on a solar panel would be super risky for a longer FKT. You would be relying on good weather and plenty of sunshine to charge your necessary gear. If the panel would break or not provide the juice you need you wouldn't be able to use your phone, hike at night, your GPS devices would die and you couldn't prove that you actually set the FKT. I know you could say that about a battery bank as well but they are pretty durable and reliable in my experience and you know how much juice they provide. I haven't used the brand of panel you mentioned but the ones I have used take a long time to charge anything and that's assuming you have all day sunshine and your in an exposed area. Maybe I need to give them another try though if this one is different.
For quilts, I haven't seen many 30 degree quilts that are at or under a pound but that's just really looking at the bigger cottage manufacturers like Nunatak, Katabatic Gear, UGQ, Enlightened Equipment, Hammock Gear etc. I need a long version and pretty much all of their 30 degree 900-950 fill long quilts come in at around 19 oz with EE offering one that's around 17 oz. I also told EE I would use this quilt on the FKT since its a prototype material I'm testing for them.
I've used wind shirts pretty extensively and I enjoy them but hiking with a wind shirt as your only warm layer is pretty risky in the Rockies. If you can pair it with a puffy of some sort you would be fine but a puffy is worthless as an active layer. I agree that a wind shirt can easily take you down into the 30's and provide a significant weight and volume reduction but I don't think it's right for your only insulation layer on a longer FKT. It's 100% worth the weight for me unless you know where I can get some Grade A unicorn hide.
You should check out the rain jacket I use, its the best rain jacket on the market in my opinion. The Shakedry material is highly breathable and a permanent beading surface meaning the material will fail before the jacket wets out. If your rain jacket never wets out why would you need to add a 1.5 oz rain poncho to it?
I appreciate the feedback Jeff, you've obviously got a lot of miles under your belt and a lot of experience with gear. There are definitely areas I could cut weight but there are risks with those choices. Oh, and you made me go back and look over my LighterPack and I found two pretty big issues. I had the wrong weight in there for the quilt it's only 20.3 oz for the 20 degree and I had put a quantity of two battery banks so that dropped the overall base to 8.74 pounds which still isn't crazy light but it's almost a pound lighter than the 9.6 lbs I put in the title.
If you've got some recommendations on packs or lighter quilts I'll definitely check them out!
-Juice
Hi! Really enjoy your videos! How is the backpack holding up? Do you prefer the zerk over palante? I am thinking of buying a zerk but a bit concerned about the durability. specially the material against the back, and also the mesh parts. Or to be more specific, Is the material against the back dubbled? Is it nylon under and then the soft material against the back? What is your opinion about that? Also the main material is it similar to robic like the gossamear packs? Really appreciate you opinion! Best regards Mikael
Thanks Mikael! The Zerk is holding up pretty well but it's definitely not the most durable pack I've owned. I have a few holes in the mesh on the outer pockets and some wear on the bottom of the pack. Both the Zerk and Palante packs are great but different. The Zerk has a lot of extra pockets on the shoulders and outside pockets and handles weight a little better than the V2. The material on the back is not doubled and seems thin but has zero wear after 500+ miles and it's pretty soft against the back compared to a Dyneema pack. It has the softer material against your back, then the pad insert which is in a pocket in the main body of the pack. The V2 is maybe a little more durable, a little more simple and has the sweet fancy bottom pocket. Both are great but I would maybe pick the V2 over the Zerk if I had to choose (if you've got a baseweight 10lbs or under). Hope this helps!
@@juicehikes5436 thank you so much really helped! Hope you crushed the record! Keep Up the good work and I will definetley follow your chanel really great stuff!
Carefull with recomending Leukotape (or Tensotape) for all hikers. I had some seriously reactions to that tape, though know it works for must of the people. Those with sensitive skin, need to go away from it. Instead of any tape at all, use Gel liners, socks or very good cushioning insoles like the Sofsole AIRR. Toe gel works too pretty good.
Good call but like with a lot of things gear is particular to the individual so try it out before committing to using on a hike. I haven't experienced any reactions or anything personally but I'm sure some people do. Like you mentioned, prevention is the best method, the tape is for damage control.
@@juicehikes5436 I have completed 4 long march Nijmegen in the armed forces. The Medic Bay, mostly use and recommend Tenso and Leukotape for most people. Apparently there are like 1/5 persons who react baddly to the tape. Just keep that in mind :)
@@DanielOutdoors that's good to know!
How did it go?
Checkout part 1 here - ruclips.net/video/ZeeokQHu8cE/видео.html
Yea over 30 pound 0ack 8s just not feasible these days.
A 30 pound pack with all the blowdown and overgrowth we experienced in the Bob and Scapegoat Wilderness would have been rough!
What’s the rush?
Just a different experience. Sometimes it's good to really push yourself, other times its nice to slow down and enjoy the ride.
@@juicehikes5436 I can totally dig that , asides from that , great video dude I’m going to adopt your socks and shirt tip for dang sure - other than I know I’m backpack will be heavy due to my tent, (2 rifles ,ammo)&sleeping bag that will be attached to my pack .the rest I’m trying to get the lightest shit earth has to offer to at least lighten that load. Long story!
Great video and good luck! Oh don't forget your Bear spray.
You'd enjoy doing the New Zealand coast to coast in the South Island.
I've heard amazing things!
At what point does a light pack become dangerous. Very ill prepared.
You'd be surprised with what you actually need. This was more than enough given the trail and the time of year.
Good luck looking forward to your adventure!!!
Thanks! Here's part 1 ruclips.net/video/ZeeokQHu8cE/видео.html!
Great, lot of information in this! Good luck with the attempt! 🤛🏼
Thanks Captain!
Good luck Juice. Hope you set a new time.
Here's part 1 ruclips.net/video/ZeeokQHu8cE/видео.html!
Hey Juice....you need a new scale! The Rav Power 10,000 has a stated weight of 7.54 oz. I weighed mine: 7.45 oz.
Except in this kit I'm using the Anker 20,000 PD so it weighs a little more than the 10,000
Hey Juice, sorry, I left out important descriptive info. I am referring to your lighter pack link for the video where your pack bag blew away. In that video, you reference the Anker 10,000. Your lighter pack weight, for the Anker 10,000 is below the stated weight, by Anker. I verified this by weighing mine. You have a bad scale or made an error.
You're right, it's 6.86 ounces for the Ultra-Slim 10,000. Not sure how I made the error, Ravpower lists it at 6.9 oz.
Good stuff man thanks for making this video
Great video.
Thanks
Wow, not sure how this went but 51 miles a day moving at a 2.5-3 mph rate means you have to be hiking along for 17-20 hours a day. That's pretty brutal.
I had to tap by the end of day 2. The extreme heat got to me and I was throwing up constantly. I released a few videos because I continued on after I bailed on the FKT.
Thanks for the video!!
Good video, x1.5 playback speed 👍
2:54
Best of luck, a pair of compression sleeves for your calves might be an idea.
I've thought about using them but it's too close to throw in a new piece of gear. Definitely something I'll have to try for future adventures.
AWESOME 👍❤
I'm at 10 lbs without water n food I'm going to try and bump down 2 lbs ...
Always good to try and reduce weight but just make sure you're using things you've tested and are comfortable with. We don't hike to be miserable!
Hope you eat a lot early to get that weight down
Wow! Great video, Ajay...So glad we can follow your hike! Best of luck and many prayers ! Love, your Schaller/ Swan family
100 Advil in nine days - get on the liver and kidney transplant list now
The plan was never to take that many, it was a “just in case” stash. I only ended up taking 12 throughout the whole trip.
Loved it. Juice out!
Thanks Mark!
Good luck!
Great video ☺️ 👍 enjoyed watching a lot 👌
Thanks for tuning in!
The pack is rated for 30 pounds. With the food in your other video you’re at 34 pounds, and that doesn’t include water. Not sure I’d use that pack with that much food.
Thanks for the concern but weight ratings on packs are about as reliable as EPA estimates on cars. A cardinal rule is always test your gear and I’ve been using this pack for trips and training for the past year loading it up with 35+ pounds and carrying it on 50+ mile days so I know it can handle the weight comfortably.
Juice Hikes you’re a heck of a lot more experienced than me. I just prefer some kind of frame with that much weight, but I’m old. 👍
Haha, everyone just needs to find what works for them!
good luck from scotland...
Thanks Alex!
Voll krass, 100 Ibuprofen gegen die Schmerzen und zum Schlafen.
100 ibuprofen for 10 day’s holy crap😂
I only ended up taking around 12 total for the trip, that was a "just in case" stash.
@@juicehikes5436 You should rethink Ibuprofen, it's been linked to some serious adverse reactions in athletes.
www.triathlete.com/culture/news/ironman-should-rethink-its-aleve-partnership/
I'm a kidney transplant recipient and ultracyclist. Due to the increased risks of kidney damage, I was advised not to take Vitamin I and haven't in 20 years. Yes, it sucks, especially now that I'm older (more aches and pains) but I get by ok. I've ridden my bike across the country a couple times, hiked across the Grand Canyon, etc. Hope you set a new FKT.
Okay, I'm excited! Good luck! Edited to add: Wait! I forgot that is how I know you! You thru-hiked the Centennial Trail. I'm planning to do it next month.
Thanks Chris! That's awesome you are going to be hiking the Centennial! It's such a great trail.
wtf dude I was checking that girl out at 1:14
Water filter missing
Katadyne Bfree 1L, it's in the video
"This is the Diddy bag" hahaha yup, that's a diddy
Haha, yup!
Good video though...did you make it?
Did I make it? Of course!
@@juicehikes5436 and set the record?
Why?
i dont see soap or a towel so it should smell nice haha
Gotta embrace the stink!
@@juicehikes5436 it gives you personality , thank you by the way, you have been super useful to me, im from spain and going to do a thru hike across the "transpirenaica" trail ,
also called gr-11, on the pyrinees yhis summer!(500 miles)
Haha! Thanks for watching! Have a great time on your trip!
That’s too heavy, mines is 6 pounds 😅
Cool! Because you have to prove you did it you do have to carry things like larger power banks, Garmin mini, plus that Zerk is pretty beefy. I've since moved on from it. You can clearly go lighter.
Sound is terrible should do it indoors
Thats alot of ibuprofen, take care of yourself
Just being prepared, I only ended up taking around 12 total.
That also concerned me. Bleeding stomach ulcer is not nice to have during trail. Ibuprofen is not harmless.
Watched all of it, poor audio
Windy day, hard to get around it. I use a better mic now. Thanks for watching!
Difficult to listen to with the wind noise - very distracting.
20-34 degrees and you’re packing wayyyy too cold. Dangerous to recommend that to anybody.
I didn't see a recommendation. More of a, "What I'm bringing on an FKT."
When you do your FKT, you can pack warmer and tell us about it. :)
Hey Matt, thanks for watching. This wasn't meant to be a recommendation, more an overview of everything I personally needed for the trip. Packing wayyyyy too cold is a matter of perspective. When you are moving fast all day long you don't need a ton to keep you warm since your internal heater is running constantly. This gear was exactly what I needed and was never cold.
Thumbs down on the flushable wipes. Will not biodegrade.
The wipes I used were biodegradable (per the label) but I have been using a bidet since that trip and have been loving. it.
You really should up grade you blade 😆 whatcha gonna do with that ? Scare off a bug 😆 !! . stab a crawler 😆 ! . bigger blade the better help you have for fire wood and food and shelter if your tent happens to get ruined by something or a storm that hit you outta Nowhere lol
Nah, you spend enough time outside and you get to know what you really need. The knife for slicing cheese/meat and the scissors to cut rope if needed, that's about it. If things really hit the fan I would just press on and hike out. If I'm injured, wet, and my shelter is wrecked that's an extreme circumstance that almost no one ever finds themselves in. I don't pack for my fears.
@@juicehikes5436 all Im saying is you really think of your safety bud ! . now days people can't even hit the trails without turning up missing till there body's have been found stripped down to nothing no hands or feet or even hea lol . real shit buddy you can't trust nobody out there !?
A hiking pole can be a pretty good defense in a pinch!
Audio sucks!
Yup! No external mic on this one.
would've loved to watch the vid but the wind noise was stupid... why? have some respect
Have some respect? Who says that? It was windy and I was using a dead cat wind screen. Not much you can do when it's that windy. I've got a few newer videos where there's no wind noise ruclips.net/video/dB6JBOQQMZM/видео.html
You should not have a toothbrush for years 😱😳 swap that every 3 months 😬
You're probably right. It definitely doesn't get the use of a normal daily toothbrush but it's probably due to be replaced!
You just called a gore hat a basic trucker hat? Lolol reality check much bud?
A hat’s a hat for the most part!
@@juicehikes5436 www.gorewear.com/us/en-us/m-gore-tex-cap-100002.html?dwvar_100002_color=0800&cgid=gw_men_accessories_headwear
yes a $45 hat is just a normal hat. u dumb or something?
@@mandarpatki8869 easy buddy. The link you sent is for a different hat and it was given to me for free so I never looked into the price. If I was paying for a hat, I wouldn't spend $45.
@@juicehikes5436 lol if u dont got a problem in knowing the cost of ur gear and then make a video about it then u do u. Just saying that u look pretty dumb calling a hat that's worth the cost of most shoes as a basic hat.
Ya, no food, no water, and no phone weight included.
For transparency and ease of understanding I went by base weight for the video which is everything minus consumables which would be food and water in this case. I made a separate video on the food and the weight that was associated with that. Also, the phone weight was included in the base weight. I mentioned it in the video that I was using my phone to film which is why I couldn’t show it. If you look in the description of the video you will find my LighterPack link which lists the phone which is a Pixel 4 XL and has all the gear and weights of everything else. I don’t disagree that food and water should be included in your “total” or “starting weight” which is why I made a separate video.
9.6 lbs.... That's f****** huge why did you even bother making this.
Thanks for watching!
@@juicehikes5436 you win... You out classed me...
Whats next? How about walking backwards, or doing cartwheels, or doing the hokie pokie. That's it - the fastest backwards, cartwheels, 500 miles thru the rocky mountains. You gonna get some groupies for all that effort, right? Hollywood's gonna call your agent if your lucky. Whatever dude, frat boy.
Haha! Thanks for watching!
If you have to do drugs the whole time what's the point? I think it would do better to do it on your own steam. If you can't do it on your own steam you're not really doing it. The drugs are doing it.
#1 Thanks for watching!
#2 There’s a huge difference between putting something in your pack and actually using it. I only took Ibuprofen a few times the whole trip and prefer not to unless I am injured. This was a “just incase” stash incase something major occurred.
#3 “Doing Drugs” is a really extreme way to look at taking something extremely mild like Ibuprofen especially in a culture where almost everyone is taking some sort of medication for something. Most of which are much worse for you than Ibuprofen.
#4 There’s a reason thru-hikers refer to Ibuprofen as Vitamin-I. It’s a super common part of many long distance hikers daily diet, and that’s just when they are doing 15-25 mile days.
@@juicehikes5436 I Appreciate the response. But I am 62 years old and I still feel like using isopropan is a crutch. I wouldn't feel like I was actually accomplishing it on my own.
@@juicehikes5436 "just incase" of what? 10 other people need some. If you need 100 ibuprofen in 9 days. Then you need a helicopter to the hospital. Also what world do you live in where most people are taking medication. That's pretty presumptuous of you.
hpi.georgetown.edu/rxdrugs/#:~:text=More%20than%20131%20million%20people,and%20those%20with%20chronic%20conditions.
Good luck!