thats how i learned one summer just practicing everymorning with pocket knives i didnt learn the equation but i did notice the rotation and takeing steps back and forth make a huge difference
They just seem like two guys who have been life long best friends, makes the videos go so smoothly. Love the content, keep it up guys. Where has this channel been my whole life?
I'm not talking about the ads before the video, I mean the ones on your main channel that are like commercial breaks. Does domain.com require a certain amount of time for each ad?
Brian! I was a fan of Scam School, and I was a fan of your Penn and Teller appearance. Now I'm obsessed with The Modern Rogue. You've done it again my friend.
I got some throwing knives off amazon a few months back, and could never throw them properly. Just this morning I was thinking "I should really learn to throw these properly." Lo and behold, you guys deliver.
But it's even better since they're not supposed to be good at it from the start. Seems more accessible! In a sense it's more satisfying since hey, I could do that to without ruining my bank account and taking 2-3 weeks to learn new skills!
The "wrist-flick" sort of action movie hero type of throw is actually not a bad technique, it's just for a different kind of throwing, referred to as "no spin" or "combat throwing", in which you throw the knife while trying to counterbalance the angular momentum of the arm's curl.
David Cook I was about to bring up no-spin, but the chance of them picking up no-spin in a RUclips video........ could have gotten in touch with Adam Celadin ,he was in Austin for the world championships recently .
David Cook I can't think of any way of flicking it which would nullify rotation.... I think to throw it with no spin you would need to have your index finger spanning out across the top of the knife (while holding it on the handle of course) and when you throw it the index kind of straightens and pushes the back down a little to get a no spin motion. I have tried it quite a few times, and provided I'm getting the technique partially correct, it is not a very good way of throwing. It is less accurate, less powerful, and much much more difficult to learn. I usually use my entire arm to throw knives to extend the half spin distance, to increase it's momentum (and kinetic energy upon impact), and have a much greater chance of sticking. The problem with the way they were learning in the video let's the blade rotate too much, decreasing the zone and chance of hitting a target. So in real life situations they would mess up because they are used to a specific distance
There are several no-spin methods, the most common is pretty much as you described( bujinkan and fedin being popular as well). For good examples look up SamothChipmah, Xolette, AdamCeladin, and CombatKnifeThrower on RUclips.
For anyone wanting to try this at home, use lightweight, easy to penetrate materials like a box or styrofoam as the target and you can use any old butter knife to practice. No need to go out and buy anything and butter knives are pretty much perfectly balanced to practice with for newbies.
I like this. Too many too-cool-for-school tutorials that show beginner then skip ahead 5 seconds to expert. This actually demonstrates the need for a lot of practice, and that even the experts miss from time to time.
It helps that my goal isn't to show how you can be the "big performer" in a room full of friends in these videos. It's just me and Jason exploring shit we find really interesting.
At least Jason didn't hit himself in the head this time around. That would've been bad. I actually found out how to thrown knives somewhere and I remember it saying that depending on the knife you use hold it on the lighter side. And I was able to throw an ordinary kitchen knife and stick it into my wooden fence. I felt like such a badass
distance is a THE factor when choosing the method of throwing. Its more movie majic, but flipping the knife hold from tip to arse or vice versa can be a means of selecting the rotation you want to stick the target with. I imagine some director saw this and thought it was a cool flourish before a nifty knife toss
Inventor of knife: Hey I made this sharp metal with wood so I can cut things or kill things. It's very dangerous and should be used carefully. Everybody: We agree. Me: _Let's throw them._
When we were kids, my friends dad was a blacksmith and he made us a bunch of throwing knives and a couple tomahawks. We learned very quickly that exact distance was important. We had a giant tree stump probably about 5x5, it was reduced to splinters by the time we finished. Kids don't get to do stuff like that now, people would "throw" (ha, good pun) a fit. But honestly, we practiced for months and besides raw hands, none of us ever got injured.
Brian I've been following your vids since the beginning of Scam School. I'm so happy this channel is doing well. You and Jason are doing a great fucking job.
i'd love to see a story of some guy that tried to rob Brian and Jason and got his ass handed to him with all their skills and weapon art they've accumulated over time.
Samuel Newsome you’d be surprised, in combat with axes especially even hitting with the butt is still really effective, a rule of thumb a hema practitioner told me was aim at the legs because if you don’t hit with the blade you’re still tripping them up
No shit, because they're watching and not actually doing it. That's why athletes watch film and why quarterbacks aren't coaches and why base coaches exist
I just do straight throws which have no distance or math but are a lot harder to execute (but I've practices for years) Edit: yes of course I started this way like everyone does, but I can more reliably throw and with more strength with a straight throw than having any rotation, and it means within a second of holding a new blade I can already throw it almost perpendicular to the target (and occasionally get it stuck a forth to a half of an inch in the wall)
Yes, throw alone for a while. It feels very good to stick a knife -- it becomes meditative once you get the flow going. A target of pine boards is perfect *BUT* knives & axes will stick much more easily if the boards are set up vertically (not horizontally, like in this video). Seriously, it will be a much more satisfying experience. And everyone in this video would have stuck a lot more often if the blades were hitting with the grain of the boards, instead of fighting the cross grain to stick.
For the hatchets, you want to release when the handle is vertical, not horizontal like with the knife. that way, the blade is facing the target when it impacts.
Totally Markiplier No spin throwing is actually more versatile than spin throwing, because you can be any distance from the target and you don't have to calculate the distance. Now you know.
I'm learning to throw knives, love hand-eye sports. Of all that I have tried Knife throwing has the least margin for error. In my experience, the three most essential variables: distance, mental;( very easy to over think,) and release. Visualize having sand in the palm of your hand that you want to poof...? at the target.
2:25 once you actually get good at knife throwing you can judge distance and regulate rotations by dampening or intensifying the flick of your wrist. Only throwing from one distance (6 feet according to this tool) with one release method is how you prevent yourself from improving.
When I am throwing a knife, I prefer to use a no spin method. Its basically the same as a full rotation but you your index finger on the knife. I think its a lot more fun and practical because you don't have to deal with the distance before every throw.
This is a really fun and great video to watch but for anybody that is trying to throw against a wood target it’s best to throw against end grain as opposed to side grain. That’s why all night throwing tournaments use end grain targets
I feel like this is a good start for the basics but bad form overall with someone learning this skill in depth. Lookup no spin throwing and how holding the knife differently can more easily compensate for distance. Other than that, love seeing you guys up to your usual shenanigans and hope this inspires someone to get into the sport
I love that line "It is super satisfying!" Funny how I get the same feeling from lockpicking! When that lock pops... It IS super satisfying.. strangely enough!
I misread the title as "Learning the art of knife" and was strangely excited to figure out what "The art of knife" means... I have to say I'm somewhat disappointed now.
Why does no one discuss flat throws anymore? As a teenager a decade and a half ago I learned how to flat throw from some internet page and taught 4 of my friends the next day. We spent the afternoon in my yard throwing knives and spikes (I had these spikes with para-cord tassels on the end, specifically designed to fly with this technique) at a target that was maybe 15-20 feet away. We had better consistency because the technique removed rotation entirely, allowing us to focus on our accuracy. It wouldn't be any good for the blades used in this demonstration, but the blades in the beginning are one of the exact kind we were using.
That whole, "Feet per rotation" only really applies if you're throwing the standard way. Adding rotation is trivial, and has its benefits, like understanding how to throw even if you aren't at the perfect divisible distance.
With the axes, the grain of the wood was going the wrong way, you would need to throw them extremely hard for it to stick, turn the boards from horizontal to vertical.
You guys are officially the best you tubers, you take time and effort into your videos and the pay off is awesome thanks for giving me something to look toward to in the morning
all this stuff about how you need to be X amount of feet away per rotation is a good starting point... but to be cliche: practice makes perfect. It's true for any activity, you just can't walk in to a situation you're not used to with advice like "if you're X feet away throw by gripping the blade, if you're X feet away throw by the hilt". Anyone who masters something has had tons of practice, and they can simply feel how hard to throw, the arc of their swing, the release point, etc. Sure it makes an interesting video trying to put a scientific lesson on it for beginners but, assuming you're human, you need repetition to learn the motions in your muscle memory
Sigh..so much calculation to convert from imperial to metric. Please scam school editor, put little subtitles with a metric conversion in such videos like Vsauce does...itmakes it way easier to watch and get along the first time. =)
Good note, I'll try to do that from now on! Since so few of our episodes actually make use of that it's easy to forget, but putting a face to the problem will help me be more accountable for that.
boo hoo - it's not in Metric ... I don't know how to convert anything to metric, math is hard. They gave you 100% of the information you need in the first bit where they said that the rotation is approximately 6x the length of the object you are throwing. Whether you're measuring in Meters or Feet or "Pink Rocks named Karen" doesn't matter. So if you have a throwing knife that is 30 Centimeters long you need to stand back 30cm x6 which 180 Centimeters. (18 Decimeters, or 1.8 Meters) If the object is longer or shorter you do the same calculation. Length of Thrown Object x 6 = 1 full rotation. If you wanted to get 2 full rotations you'd do X12 or a rotation and a half would be X9.
That guy is an awful teacher. And to be honest he's not even that good at throwing. Learn to judge your distance and then adjust your grip length from the fulcrum (balance point) of the knife. It IS mostly elbow and shoulder, it's not "just throwing it." This guy really just wants his 15 minutes of fame and he's milking every second... Trying to play expert, but he's hindering the progress of everyone trying to learn here. You dont want to train yourself to only be able to throw from a few effective footage of range, that defeats the whole purpose of turning a close quarters weapon into an extended range weapon, if you can't stick it from your max distance all the way up to a few feet away, then you're not really learning a skill, but instead a trick. Don't leave your target loose like that!!! The only way I could understand that is if he has to take it apart to fit it on his moped to take it to the children's birthday parties he performs for.. It's just a good way to break your knives. If you want to learn and feel good about being able to stick it hard from all distances, every time, you should try no-spin throwing. It's called no-spin but basically it's minimum spin, causing the knife to fly and strike like an arrow. You let the knife ever so gently slip out of your grip as you release, so that the knife's spin is slower. (And unlike this clown's "they're just knives" comment, most throwing knives are dull blade edges but pointed tips (easier to learn to throw from the blade-side with, but much less realistic, if you think about transferring the skill to the real world) and NO-SPIN throwing benefits from knives with a little more "handle-side" weight, as it acts like a tail feather on a dart does to stabilize it's trajectory. Good luck everyone, and by the way you were doing good, you just have to get a little better at locking your wrists.
Hey Joseph-- would you consider editing your post so it didn't sound like so much "sour grapes"? You seem to have some really good points, but they're a bit lost under what comes across as jealousy.
Hey Modern Rogue, you guys are the ones making "Pruno" not me, so I guess you could suck it if you want. Haha a fool will hate you for correcting them. A wise producer would take those really good points as they come, and maybe gain another subscriber with an occasional dissenting opinion, instead of holding the opinionated accountable for their own interpretations, wouldn't they? Hope that really good point doesn't sound like jealousy...
Lmfao I have four sentences out of about 20, (in more or less 4 paragraphs) gently expressing my point about how he abused the attention, and all of the sudden I'm a jealous troll! Get over yourself.. I was only trying to REALLY help the people here who are ACTUALLY wanting to learn how to throw knives. Maybe you should stick to bar tricks.
Joseph Mullins I really don't think he was insulting you. Just saying edit it so it comes across as more of a guide instead of a stab at the knife guy.
Thank you Joseph! I was thinking exactly this when they revealed it's going to be a spinning throw. I did that a few years back, and what I learned was that in order to increase the distance I had to throw the knife more UP in the air, with more spins. By the time I learned to hit the target with three spins, I had to be about 20 feet away from the target and throw pretty much at a 50 degree angle, at which point the knife was pretty much falling onto the target instead of the aggressive bite it had from half spin. From that experience it was clear to me that this was not the right way to throw knives if you intended to actually have any use for it, and soon after learned of the "no-spin" technique you described, which is vastly more powerful and practical to use.
it took me two yrs completely self taught with an incredibly crappy knife to get a solid consistent throw, bout 8 in 10. helpful tips: never throw when angry, frusturated, all these things equal being tense. be relaxed. dude said don't throw it like a baseball. I throw like a pitcher, much better accuracy that way, I never use a full spin, just a half-spin even at 10-15ft, I just adjust my choke up for distance. if u buy crappy knives always grind the sharp edge off before learning the balance, even a couple grams can distinctly change the balance. I highly recommend cold steel true flight knife, it's what I currently use. and its cheap, simple, but good quality. just take off paracord, and grind off the sharp edge. also my throwing style may not work for u, so have fun, be safe, I ain't responsible for any injury/death, and hav a good time.
throwing knives for fighting is different than throwing knives for fun or sport. the way i was taught to throw knives was in eastern martial arts. you throw it in a way that the knife does not spin at all. although the technique is difficult to get down, it can be accomplished with any point object within a decent size range. i can throw blunt metal chopsticks through boxes, knifes into trees, and even needles into the dry wall. There are even shaolin monks who are capable of throwing a needle through solid glass. i dont think ill ever accomplish that last one, ive been trying for 5 years now no beans.
I just got a nice set of throwing knifes today Stainless steel 8 & 1/2 inches long , I plan to make a end grain target 2 foot wide by 3 foot long next spring so I can start learning to throwing all the weapons I have been collecting . I have 6 throwing stars I know how to throw them already, then I have throwing spikes & a CRKT woods chogan T Hawk that I,m going to teach my self how to throw so I have myself set up pretty good right now . I just taught myself how to target a recurve bow about 3 years ago . I,m getting ready for shit to go down the way the world is now .
Try throwing the knife Without any rotations, so you do not have to think about length and ratification. I used this method for a long time. Until I met someone who taught me and my friends to throw without rotation. Then I could throw a knife without thinking about the distance,(Anyone who throws with rotation knows how hard to calculate length) -In my opinion, no-rotation-trow it's the absolute best way to throw a knife. When you are comfortable with the technique, the knife will hit with the tip 'regardless of length.' great video though.
My mother taught me how to throw knives, my aunt from West Virginia taught me how to throw axes. You're overthinking the thing, throw the knife, feel what you did wrong. If you hit hilt first you néed a half more or half less. I can throw 15ft in complete darkness one rotation, but lean into the throw with my forward foot landing a little further into a crouch. You can feel how it leaves your hand. And don't try zero dark throwing, until every throw is ping free, it will come back to you after a ping! Muscle memory is the key, just because you can throw, don't let up on practice. A month away can get you rusty, and dodging those come backs! Oh, and don't dodge until you know the path, you don't want dodge into it!!
Know your knife and know your distance via estimating. Same as with a tomahawk. You hold by handle or by blade depending on distance. Tomahawk same just this with blade facing you. Small variances in distance can be adjusted release point. Tomahawk I can stick with very little if any adjustments. Knives take me a few extra throws to dial in.
you can also do what they call a no spin throw. way easier to learn in my opinion. Can't hit as hard or travel as fast but it is actually practical in a fight
See, I learned a different method that's more of a sling and uses no rotation. The tip of the knife stays towards your target the whole way, more like a dart, so distance is not a factor. You can throw from a lot of different positions, and in just about any direction, because it's more about the way you release the knife and the way it's shaped. It definitely takes practice though, because it's essential to get your timing right.
Guys if you're trying to learn this, remember that the harder you throw, the ratio becomes further apart from spins to distance, so you have to back up a little.
"Don't do this at home!"
I'm definitely going to do this at home.
Because I'm a modern rouge!
thats how i learned one summer just practicing everymorning with pocket knives i didnt learn the equation but i did notice the rotation and takeing steps back and forth make a huge difference
I practiced at first with a old hatchet and moved to knives it pretty easy
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They just seem like two guys who have been life long best friends, makes the videos go so smoothly. Love the content, keep it up guys. Where has this channel been my whole life?
We're brand new! Only 2 months old (but yes, it helps that we did a TV show together, too)
which tv show and where can i buy/watch it? Thanks!
keep up the good work man, just subbed today and I like everything on this channel.
www.netflix.com/title/80088069
when will netflix add more seasons of hacking the system? i've seen all episodes so far... also when will brian brushwood come to minnesota? :P
Please just do your ads like this because it saves so much time and it's not annoying. It's just straight to the point.
Have we done otherwise on this channel?
The Modern Rogue he's talling about the RUclips adds that you can't skip for 5 seconds.
Bard_SM Relax mate. We all need money. I usually let the whole ad run on my favorite channels (like this) so they make more. They deserve it.
I'm not talking about the ads before the video, I mean the ones on your main channel that are like commercial breaks. Does domain.com require a certain amount of time for each ad?
Callen "it's just straight to the point" fits perfectly for this episode
Spokesmen for Dollar Shave... neither one has shaved in weeks. LOL
This was exactly what I wanted to say. Neither one should really be shaving either, just trimming their sexy beards.
JohnPBartonMusic have you not watched the very end?
Not their faces at least
its no shave november
They shave their genitals and gooch lol not every bearded man is a hairy animal. Women dig a dude who is well groomed.
Brian! I was a fan of Scam School, and I was a fan of your Penn and Teller appearance. Now I'm obsessed with The Modern Rogue. You've done it again my friend.
yay!
I got some throwing knives off amazon a few months back, and could never throw them properly. Just this morning I was thinking "I should really learn to throw these properly." Lo and behold, you guys deliver.
the art of knife throwing - seeing what sticks.
anders
*Badum-Tss*
I have a feeling that this channel will finally grow big! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK BRIAN AND JASON! I'LL ALWAYS BE STICKING AROUND!
thanks!
I've been watching scam school for years, but I love this channel even more
thanks, man!
Yo! the internet version of Myth Busters. Dope
I am so very okay with this suggestion.
lol
The Modern Rogue love your vids
Adam Savage still does shit sort of like Mythbusters on his channel, TESTED
But it's even better since they're not supposed to be good at it from the start. Seems more accessible! In a sense it's more satisfying since hey, I could do that to without ruining my bank account and taking 2-3 weeks to learn new skills!
Perfectly balanced, as all things should be
I'm just going to come out and say it... The Modern Rogue deserves to be bigger, you guys are awesome :)
The "wrist-flick" sort of action movie hero type of throw is actually not a bad technique, it's just for a different kind of throwing, referred to as "no spin" or "combat throwing", in which you throw the knife while trying to counterbalance the angular momentum of the arm's curl.
David Cook I was about to bring up no-spin, but the chance of them picking up no-spin in a RUclips video........ could have gotten in touch with Adam Celadin ,he was in Austin for the world championships recently .
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David Cook
I can't think of any way of flicking it which would nullify rotation....
I think to throw it with no spin you would need to have your index finger spanning out across the top of the knife (while holding it on the handle of course) and when you throw it the index kind of straightens and pushes the back down a little to get a no spin motion. I have tried it quite a few times, and provided I'm getting the technique partially correct, it is not a very good way of throwing. It is less accurate, less powerful, and much much more difficult to learn.
I usually use my entire arm to throw knives to extend the half spin distance, to increase it's momentum (and kinetic energy upon impact), and have a much greater chance of sticking.
The problem with the way they were learning in the video let's the blade rotate too much, decreasing the zone and chance of hitting a target. So in real life situations they would mess up because they are used to a specific distance
There are several no-spin methods, the most common is pretty much as you described( bujinkan and fedin being popular as well). For good examples look up SamothChipmah, Xolette, AdamCeladin, and CombatKnifeThrower on RUclips.
Thanks bros
Brian, it's #NoShaveNovember and you're doing a dollar shave club comercial? Why are you tempting me?
It's for those who do movember. They need to remove the beard.
Also its NoNuTNovember
I bet if you were throwing dollar shave club razors, they'd stick every time. 🤓👍🏼
Live Free and DIY how much were you paid?
Puff Splix probably not enough
The Tooner Probably not at all.
@@poofsplix2003 probably another satisfied customer of the free market.
Man he gots to get paid too..besides, he gave the nerdy face emoji, so he is cool
I dig your videos btw!
For anyone wanting to try this at home, use lightweight, easy to penetrate materials like a box or styrofoam as the target and you can use any old butter knife to practice. No need to go out and buy anything and butter knives are pretty much perfectly balanced to practice with for newbies.
alright guys, I do have to say The Modern Rogue is definitely something that everyone should check out. Love it so much!
I like this. Too many too-cool-for-school tutorials that show beginner then skip ahead 5 seconds to expert. This actually demonstrates the need for a lot of practice, and that even the experts miss from time to time.
i like this style of his. the bar trick guy i mean. it isnt as overhyper as those bar tricks videos. feels more honest of him. and humble
It helps that my goal isn't to show how you can be the "big performer" in a room full of friends in these videos. It's just me and Jason exploring shit we find really interesting.
The Modern Rogue I'll make an effort to share you guys with my colleagues and friends. Can't stop binge-watching you guys though.
You guys are like the Mythbusters of youtube keep it up!
thanks man! I like your style.
At least Jason didn't hit himself in the head this time around. That would've been bad.
I actually found out how to thrown knives somewhere and I remember it saying that depending on the knife you use hold it on the lighter side. And I was able to throw an ordinary kitchen knife and stick it into my wooden fence. I felt like such a badass
distance is a THE factor when choosing the method of throwing. Its more movie majic, but flipping the knife hold from tip to arse or vice versa can be a means of selecting the rotation you want to stick the target with. I imagine some director saw this and thought it was a cool flourish before a nifty knife toss
Inventor of knife: Hey I made this sharp metal with wood so I can cut things or kill things. It's very dangerous and should be used carefully.
Everybody: We agree.
Me: _Let's throw them._
When we were kids, my friends dad was a blacksmith and he made us a bunch of throwing knives and a couple tomahawks. We learned very quickly that exact distance was important. We had a giant tree stump probably about 5x5, it was reduced to splinters by the time we finished. Kids don't get to do stuff like that now, people would "throw" (ha, good pun) a fit. But honestly, we practiced for months and besides raw hands, none of us ever got injured.
Sure, the raw hands were from knife throwing
@@Brent-jj6qi sure you didn't get that juvenile reply from middle school? Sure seems like it 🖕
Brian I've been following your vids since the beginning of Scam School. I'm so happy this channel is doing well. You and Jason are doing a great fucking job.
Thanks so much, man! We're happy for the launch momentum, but please continue to spread the word!
"Bounce the hilt off everyone." Brian, what are you planning to use these for?
i'd love to see a story of some guy that tried to rob Brian and Jason and got his ass handed to him with all their skills and weapon art they've accumulated over time.
M_X_C_N Then dissolving the body in lye
Samuel Newsome you’d be surprised, in combat with axes especially even hitting with the butt is still really effective, a rule of thumb a hema practitioner told me was aim at the legs because if you don’t hit with the blade you’re still tripping them up
They're experts when they're standing off to the side. But actually throwing they're clueless.
plot twist: we're always clueless.
The Modern Rogue this video convinced me to buy throwing knives. Thank you
I could never throw knives with a spin. I find throwing with no spin to be more effect and easier.
No shit, because they're watching and not actually doing it. That's why athletes watch film and why quarterbacks aren't coaches and why base coaches exist
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John has a reality rare gift for teaching.
I seriously love this channel.
thanks!
I just do straight throws which have no distance or math but are a lot harder to execute (but I've practices for years)
Edit: yes of course I started this way like everyone does, but I can more reliably throw and with more strength with a straight throw than having any rotation, and it means within a second of holding a new blade I can already throw it almost perpendicular to the target (and occasionally get it stuck a forth to a half of an inch in the wall)
great video as always guys, keep up the good work
Yes, throw alone for a while. It feels very good to stick a knife -- it becomes meditative once you get the flow going. A target of pine boards is perfect *BUT* knives & axes will stick much more easily if the boards are set up vertically (not horizontally, like in this video). Seriously, it will be a much more satisfying experience. And everyone in this video would have stuck a lot more often if the blades were hitting with the grain of the boards, instead of fighting the cross grain to stick.
"The modern rogue throws knives at stuff"
For the record, balance in the middle is a myth and no spin is way harder to learn.
This is fun to watch. You guys are entertaining!
thanks!
throw shurikens next?
Yet again, Jason and Brian are still badasses
"Dont be like brian"
Can we get that on tshirts? :D
For the hatchets, you want to release when the handle is vertical, not horizontal like with the knife. that way, the blade is facing the target when it impacts.
Can you guys do one on knife throwing without spin?
Would not work you need the momentum
there is a type of knife throwing without spin....
Totally Markiplier No spin throwing is actually more versatile than spin throwing, because you can be any distance from the target and you don't have to calculate the distance.
Now you know.
Keanan Aldridge true dat
You just throw it with a stiff wrist. Like a baseball pitch.
I'm learning to throw knives, love hand-eye sports. Of all that I have tried Knife throwing has the least margin for error. In my experience, the three most essential variables: distance, mental;( very easy to over think,) and release. Visualize having sand in the palm of your hand that you want to poof...? at the target.
I have no money but I will like the video, really enjoy this channel
Thanks!
2:25 once you actually get good at knife throwing you can judge distance and regulate rotations by dampening or intensifying the flick of your wrist. Only throwing from one distance (6 feet according to this tool) with one release method is how you prevent yourself from improving.
This the dude with the whips?
Good shit, Jason. Got so hyped when ya'll got them to stick.
You and me both!
I tried this at an event a couple months ago. it was so much fun. did about as good as Brian and Jason.
Anyone here in 2019?
Btw I am disappointed that they didn’t learn no-spin
When I am throwing a knife, I prefer to use a no spin method.
Its basically the same as a full rotation but you your index finger on the knife.
I think its a lot more fun and practical because you don't have to deal with the
distance before every throw.
I'll be honest, Mike was one of the last people I expected to see on the Modern Rogue.
Hello! ~Mike
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I LOVE YOUR CHANNEL
I wish they would do Modern Rouge episodes twice a week. I love them.
Funny you two being sponsored by Dollar Shave, since you're both sporting beards and mustaches. LOL. Rock on.
oh, we shave. The only question is... where?
The Modern Rogue PENIS!!
BlackDragon16. So subtle
This is a really fun and great video to watch but for anybody that is trying to throw against a wood target it’s best to throw against end grain as opposed to side grain. That’s why all night throwing tournaments use end grain targets
#Brian+JasonForPresident2020
I humbly accept.
Chase Gilley #2020FuzzyVision
I feel like this is a good start for the basics but bad form overall with someone learning this skill in depth. Lookup no spin throwing and how holding the knife differently can more easily compensate for distance. Other than that, love seeing you guys up to your usual shenanigans and hope this inspires someone to get into the sport
I remember when he had spikes on his head.
yes they were more deadly than these knifes lol
this is literally my favorite channel EVER
Outstanding!
Jason Murphy and yall actually answet, AWESOME
Do you guys even read comments on older videos?
no.
Wait... yes.
The Modern Rogue
Thats Badass guys keep it up :D
Dj Pandup maybe...
I love that line "It is super satisfying!"
Funny how I get the same feeling from lockpicking! When that lock pops... It IS super satisfying.. strangely enough!
pfft... they were so stiff.. dont they even watch anime??
I’d bet Brian’s haircut from those old scan school videos would stick better than those knives.
I misread the title as "Learning the art of knife" and was strangely excited to figure out what "The art of knife" means... I have to say I'm somewhat disappointed now.
Why does no one discuss flat throws anymore?
As a teenager a decade and a half ago I learned how to flat throw from some internet page and taught 4 of my friends the next day. We spent the afternoon in my yard throwing knives and spikes (I had these spikes with para-cord tassels on the end, specifically designed to fly with this technique) at a target that was maybe 15-20 feet away.
We had better consistency because the technique removed rotation entirely, allowing us to focus on our accuracy.
It wouldn't be any good for the blades used in this demonstration, but the blades in the beginning are one of the exact kind we were using.
11:00 STOP IT :))
haha... you got me to re-watch that segment. Jason was on fire.
That whole, "Feet per rotation" only really applies if you're throwing the standard way. Adding rotation is trivial, and has its benefits, like understanding how to throw even if you aren't at the perfect divisible distance.
dollar shave club..... both unshaved.
well, not shaved on the parts you can see, anyway...
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With the axes, the grain of the wood was going the wrong way, you would need to throw them extremely hard for it to stick, turn the boards from horizontal to vertical.
P.S the reason they bounced back so much, it's also due to the grain.
You guys are officially the best you tubers, you take time and effort into your videos and the pay off is awesome thanks for giving me something to look toward to in the morning
Thanks, man.
is he scam school?
yep!
The Modern Rogue Wow you replied :D
The Modern Rogue are you hacking the system
Tysonlol123 yep
Dude i loved scam school!!!!!! And this is somehow EVEN BETTER!!!!!!! WOOHOOO!!!!
all this stuff about how you need to be X amount of feet away per rotation is a good starting point... but to be cliche: practice makes perfect. It's true for any activity, you just can't walk in to a situation you're not used to with advice like "if you're X feet away throw by gripping the blade, if you're X feet away throw by the hilt". Anyone who masters something has had tons of practice, and they can simply feel how hard to throw, the arc of their swing, the release point, etc. Sure it makes an interesting video trying to put a scientific lesson on it for beginners but, assuming you're human, you need repetition to learn the motions in your muscle memory
Sidney Shaw Aa
Sigh..so much calculation to convert from imperial to metric. Please scam school editor, put little subtitles with a metric conversion in such videos like Vsauce does...itmakes it way easier to watch and get along the first time. =)
Good note, I'll try to do that from now on!
Since so few of our episodes actually make use of that it's easy to forget, but putting a face to the problem will help me be more accountable for that.
Brandt Hughes
Thanks for noticing my request =)
Sizzlik yahh
You have a great day aswell.
boo hoo - it's not in Metric ... I don't know how to convert anything to metric, math is hard.
They gave you 100% of the information you need in the first bit where they said that the rotation is approximately 6x the length of the object you are throwing. Whether you're measuring in Meters or Feet or "Pink Rocks named Karen" doesn't matter.
So if you have a throwing knife that is 30 Centimeters long you need to stand back 30cm x6 which 180 Centimeters. (18 Decimeters, or 1.8 Meters)
If the object is longer or shorter you do the same calculation. Length of Thrown Object x 6 = 1 full rotation.
If you wanted to get 2 full rotations you'd do X12 or a rotation and a half would be X9.
The thing he said about the rotation doesn't just vary from person to person tbh. It's about when you release and how you're holding it.
That guy is an awful teacher. And to be honest he's not even that good at throwing.
Learn to judge your distance and then adjust your grip length from the fulcrum (balance point) of the knife.
It IS mostly elbow and shoulder, it's not "just throwing it." This guy really just wants his 15 minutes of fame and he's milking every second... Trying to play expert, but he's hindering the progress of everyone trying to learn here. You dont want to train yourself to only be able to throw from a few effective footage of range, that defeats the whole purpose of turning a close quarters weapon into an extended range weapon, if you can't stick it from your max distance all the way up to a few feet away, then you're not really learning a skill, but instead a trick.
Don't leave your target loose like that!!! The only way I could understand that is if he has to take it apart to fit it on his moped to take it to the children's birthday parties he performs for.. It's just a good way to break your knives.
If you want to learn and feel good about being able to stick it hard from all distances, every time, you should try no-spin throwing. It's called no-spin but basically it's minimum spin, causing the knife to fly and strike like an arrow. You let the knife ever so gently slip out of your grip as you release, so that the knife's spin is slower. (And unlike this clown's "they're just knives" comment, most throwing knives are dull blade edges but pointed tips (easier to learn to throw from the blade-side with, but much less realistic, if you think about transferring the skill to the real world) and NO-SPIN throwing benefits from knives with a little more "handle-side" weight, as it acts like a tail feather on a dart does to stabilize it's trajectory.
Good luck everyone, and by the way you were doing good, you just have to get a little better at locking your wrists.
Hey Joseph-- would you consider editing your post so it didn't sound like so much "sour grapes"? You seem to have some really good points, but they're a bit lost under what comes across as jealousy.
Hey Modern Rogue, you guys are the ones making "Pruno" not me, so I guess you could suck it if you want. Haha a fool will hate you for correcting them. A wise producer would take those really good points as they come, and maybe gain another subscriber with an occasional dissenting opinion, instead of holding the opinionated accountable for their own interpretations, wouldn't they? Hope that really good point doesn't sound like jealousy...
Lmfao I have four sentences out of about 20, (in more or less 4 paragraphs) gently expressing my point about how he abused the attention, and all of the sudden I'm a jealous troll!
Get over yourself.. I was only trying to REALLY help the people here who are ACTUALLY wanting to learn how to throw knives. Maybe you should stick to bar tricks.
Joseph Mullins I really don't think he was insulting you. Just saying edit it so it comes across as more of a guide instead of a stab at the knife guy.
Thank you Joseph! I was thinking exactly this when they revealed it's going to be a spinning throw. I did that a few years back, and what I learned was that in order to increase the distance I had to throw the knife more UP in the air, with more spins. By the time I learned to hit the target with three spins, I had to be about 20 feet away from the target and throw pretty much at a 50 degree angle, at which point the knife was pretty much falling onto the target instead of the aggressive bite it had from half spin. From that experience it was clear to me that this was not the right way to throw knives if you intended to actually have any use for it, and soon after learned of the "no-spin" technique you described, which is vastly more powerful and practical to use.
There is a technique called no spin, where you throw with a round motion and the knife flies straight all the time. You guys should try it.
I'm so glad you guys have gained more subscribers since the last few days I've been watching
Got the T-shirts yesterday and I love 'em.
I have one of those SOG hatchets. I love it! Lol. Very sharp, very strong, and VERY FUN.
i used to through knifes and i can say i was just really lucky watching these people
Brian is like a bull in a china shop because he's so excited about everything. So fun to watch.
10 minutes flew by. I don't even know why I am watching this but I enjoyed it!
it took me two yrs completely self taught with an incredibly crappy knife to get a solid consistent throw, bout 8 in 10. helpful tips: never throw when angry, frusturated, all these things equal being tense. be relaxed. dude said don't throw it like a baseball. I throw like a pitcher, much better accuracy that way, I never use a full spin, just a half-spin even at 10-15ft, I just adjust my choke up for distance. if u buy crappy knives always grind the sharp edge off before learning the balance, even a couple grams can distinctly change the balance. I highly recommend cold steel true flight knife, it's what I currently use. and its cheap, simple, but good quality. just take off paracord, and grind off the sharp edge. also my throwing style may not work for u, so have fun, be safe, I ain't responsible for any injury/death, and hav a good time.
throwing knives for fighting is different than throwing knives for fun or sport.
the way i was taught to throw knives was in eastern martial arts. you throw it in a way that the knife does not spin at all. although the technique is difficult to get down, it can be accomplished with any point object within a decent size range.
i can throw blunt metal chopsticks through boxes, knifes into trees, and even needles into the dry wall. There are even shaolin monks who are capable of throwing a needle through solid glass. i dont think ill ever accomplish that last one, ive been trying for 5 years now no beans.
I loved the part when Jason said “I don’t have to worry about that much precision” then he said “true” 😂
It is good to see another thrower who throws right foot forward. :)
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Perfectly balanced, as all things should be.
what I love is Dollar Shave Club is a sponsor to two guy who don't shave lol .... love your channel keep up the great work.
What I learned from this is that with our 2020 pandemic 6 feet apart stuff, we are currently in the perfect position for foot long knife throwing
I just got a nice set of throwing knifes today Stainless steel 8 & 1/2 inches long , I plan to make a end grain target 2 foot wide by 3 foot long next spring so I can start learning to throwing all the weapons I have been collecting . I have 6 throwing stars I know how to throw them already, then I have throwing spikes & a CRKT woods chogan T Hawk that I,m going to teach my self how to throw so I have myself set up pretty good right now . I just taught myself how to target a recurve bow about 3 years ago . I,m getting ready for shit to go down the way the world is now .
I found you guys like 3 days ago and you are awesome, so thank you and keep doing a great job
will do!
He seemed a lot more prepared to teach the whip than the knives.
Look up Ralph Thorn. He uses a no spin technique that is great for beginners before you try rotating throws.
Try throwing the knife Without any rotations, so you do not have to think about length and ratification. I used this method for a long time. Until I met someone who taught me and my friends to throw without rotation. Then I could throw a knife without thinking about the distance,(Anyone who throws with rotation knows how hard to calculate length)
-In my opinion, no-rotation-trow it's the absolute best way to throw a knife. When you are comfortable with the technique, the knife will hit with the tip 'regardless of length.'
great video though.
My mother taught me how to throw knives, my aunt from West Virginia taught me how to throw axes. You're overthinking the thing, throw the knife, feel what you did wrong. If you hit hilt first you néed a half more or half less. I can throw 15ft in complete darkness one rotation, but lean into the throw with my forward foot landing a little further into a crouch. You can feel how it leaves your hand. And don't try zero dark throwing, until every throw is ping free, it will come back to you after a ping! Muscle memory is the key, just because you can throw, don't let up on practice. A month away can get you rusty, and dodging those come backs! Oh, and don't dodge until you know the path, you don't want dodge into it!!
Know your knife and know your distance via estimating. Same as with a tomahawk. You hold by handle or by blade depending on distance. Tomahawk same just this with blade facing you.
Small variances in distance can be adjusted release point. Tomahawk I can stick with very little if any adjustments. Knives take me a few extra throws to dial in.
Nice ! Very interesting explanation of knife rotation! Thanks :)
you can also do what they call a no spin throw. way easier to learn in my opinion. Can't hit as hard or travel as fast but it is actually practical in a fight
See, I learned a different method that's more of a sling and uses no rotation. The tip of the knife stays towards your target the whole way, more like a dart, so distance is not a factor. You can throw from a lot of different positions, and in just about any direction, because it's more about the way you release the knife and the way it's shaped. It definitely takes practice though, because it's essential to get your timing right.
Just found this channel. Really enjoy it, hard to stop watching!
Thanks! Glad you're enjoying it.
awesome!!
SlappMeDo
That thumbnail is bloody amazing
Guys if you're trying to learn this, remember that the harder you throw, the ratio becomes further apart from spins to distance, so you have to back up a little.
We have axe throwing bars here in Canada.
But there’s a 3 beer limit in the axe lanes.
This channel is so awesome I wish they did more stuff like this though
i loved the "modern rogue throws knifes at stuff" in the beginning :D
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no joke bought some knives 4 days ago, perfect timing gents!