I appreciate this video. What drove me to look for this video was that I am in the process of investing in new gear. I was undecided about whether to get one or the other, but now I am convinced that the AVMATRIX will better fit my purpose and budget. Thank you so much.
The ATEM Extreme addressed many of these issues. I know it’s not a direct comparison with eight inputs as opposed to four but this unit not streaming and recording makes it a different category in my mind. The assignable USB out is a cool feature. For troubleshooting it showing the frame rate and res on the input side is very helpful.
I can see this being the right tool for the job in several situations as It has a nice feature set for those who do conference recording/streaming. Just having the ability for a dual PIP over a background is worth it at that price point. And, I am Ok with having to use an external recorder/streamer as there are plenty of options available. But what I really like is not having to connect a laptop just to change settings. I'm going to have to give it a hard look.
I like the power button. I run an ATEM Mini Extreme at work and people are constantly getting worried that it has accidentally been left on and looking for the power switch. I'll probably end up with just having the whole rack unplugged at the end of the day. I just hope things are done in the right order as there are things that need to be shut down properly.
Hi Aaron, please do a full review on the Avmatrix hvs0402u product. I would love to see a combo of using the Avmatrix hvs0402u with the yolobox pro. Seems like it could be a better combo than using Yolobox pro with the atem mini pro.
The speed these devices and their reviews come out is maddening. Please don't think I am now ditching the Atem within a year and switch to this device? For our simple use in small churches the Atem Mini Pro is almost perfect. Mostly operated by non technical people all they need is a couple of simple buttons and nothing else. The options on this AVMatrix are only complicating things and scaring people off. But then that's my situation.
Hi Aaron thanks for the video, did you have a particular setting (size and dimensions, positioning)for the 2 pic in pic side by side to get it perfectly, if so what are they please, thx
Based on your review, I think I'd rather feed this (vs the atem mini) into my Yolobox Pro if needed extra video sources and audio delay. Trying to avoid the computer and item software.
Nice review Aaron. I really like the features in this mixer. One quick question, what about image quality? Some months ago I read a review regarding this mixer, they compared the ATEM mini Line with this Avmatrix, and mentioned some slight color and gamma shift when compared with the source. Did you had time to run some tests regarding quality lost after the digital processing? Thank you
The assignable USB is really nice, as is the display of the frame rates. I wonder if those can be done with just software changes on the Mini Pro/Extreme line.
Great presentation, thanks. I basically have gone through everything in setting up this unit for our small church online streaming service. We however are not able to get in the PowerPoint text overlay etc. Can someone help please.
If this had streaming and ISO recording it would be perfect for most of what I do. You didn't go into software, does it have programmable macros and assignable shortcut keys? What's the audio control like? With all it can do, I would probably recommend it over the ATEM Mini and Pro but not the ISO or Extremes.
Aaron, if you recall, any sense of the workflow when you need to load 2-3 lower thirds during the stream? Trying to find a way to have those pre-loaded and not have to use menu's to switch between. thanks.
Well covered Stand Alone Device...1). Power Button 2). Headphone Jack 3). 2 Picture in Picture 4).2 HDMI Outputs & USB Output 5). Dedicated Logo Feature 6). Input Framerate & Resolution 7). USB Drive loading Graphics 8).Audio Delay Feature 9)Multi-User Saved Configuration. No 👎Streaming n No Recording...
Using the usb c out for multi view would allow me to use a hdmi out with a separate capture card for my computer, and possibly use the 2nd hdmi out to encode to RUclips. Would a USB c to USB A cord serve an older type USB monitor? And which cheap encoder to go for? Probably the same price range as an ATEM mini extreme at that point, but I think I like not relying on my computer for the ATEM app..
Purchased one recently. It is very nice, well built, but unfortunately may be sending it back. I've been testing it out sending the program feed via the USB into OBS. When using it everything looks perfect in the multiview but in OBS I can see it dropping frames. Did an A/B test and tried switching to HDMI Capture card (also via) usb and video was smooth. When I switch back the problem persists. Shame. This thing is REALLY nice, especially the built in menu in the multiview and the T Bar is just so nice.
That looks pretty neat! Does it have a 3DVE so it can flip and rotate an input source? I have an ATEM Mini, which doesn't have one, and it makes it useless for me as one of my inputs is a down facing DSLR and I need to rotate the image 180deg.
Hi Aaron. I am thinking of getting the Stem mini for use with my MacBook and Mac Mini. However I also have a Chromebook. Would the Atem hardware still work as a webcam switcher etc for a Chromebook? I realise the software would not be compatible, but if I could use it to add additional HDMI inputs on my Chromebook that would suffice. I have a cheap HDMI capture card that works on the Chromebook so can't see why the Atem wouldn't.
Very nice video and the HVS0402U does seem to be more feature rich than the ATEM Mini, but there is a bit of a price difference at least in the UK. ATEM Mini ~£260 AVMatrix HVS0402U ~£550, so that's pretty much double the price. Even the ATEM Mini Pro is ~£460 which is still cheaper. But I can see where the stand alone features could be a clincher for people 😊
Good question! It actually uses a 12V power supply just like the ATEM Mini. I was actually powering it with the ATEM Mini Extreme power supply for this video since that cable was already on my desk.
@AaronParecki @AVMATRIX. I purchased an AV Matrix. I connected my Canon RP camera to it using a brand new high-quality USB to HDMI cable. The AV Matrix did not recognize it. Does a camera have to be configured a certain way for the switcher to recognize it? Please help.
You'll need to connect the camera with an HDMI cable, not a USB-to-HDMI cable. I don't have any Canon cameras but it does look like the Canon RP has the option for "clean HDMI out", so make sure you also look up that setting to make it work. But you'll definitely need a regular HDMI cable to connect the two. I'm not sure what kind of USB-to-HDMI cable you have or what that would work with.
I haven't seen a Companion module for it yet. They do have a software app for it, so it's theoretically possible, but I'm not sure if they've published docs on their control protocol.
@@aaronpk thats actually a lots of big features. i agree not 100%, but the big ones are supported. logo support, although not as convenient, is achievable with the atem. sure, there is no on/off button but you can easily order a cable with a switch on amazon, not a dealbreaker. on the other hand, the atem has ISO recording on all 8 channels simultaneously WHILE it can also stream in the same time without a laptop, etc. it's an impressive device though, i'm always keeping an open eye for new tech & thank you for the review & comparison, it was very interesting. i'm keeping the atem for now though. :) (roland has some pretty impressive streaming video mixers too, but those are also lacking some key features the atem can do).
I should have shown how to turn it off! You have to hold it down for a couple seconds, then a menu appears on the screen and you have to rotate the knob to select "confirm" and then press "ok", so there's definitely no way to accidentally turn it off
Yeah, that's a pretty important thing. First thing I thought of when I saw the power button - "uh-oh, clumsy me will accidentally turn it off in the middle of streaming"
I appreciate this video. What drove me to look for this video was that I am in the process of investing in new gear. I was undecided about whether to get one or the other, but now I am convinced that the AVMATRIX will better fit my purpose and budget. Thank you so much.
Do check out my recent videos and livestreams about the OSEE GoStream! It's another strong contender in the space!
Nice review. Let's hope that BMD soon enables both the STINGER and LOGO features on the Extreme.
This is the most useful review I've ever seen about the Avmatrix HVS0402u. Thanks a lot.
Thanks so much!
Upgraded from Atem Mini to this one and I am more than satisfied !
I did the same thing instead of buying the pro.
Thanks for covering this, Aaron. Nice to see a competing product with some really nice features.
The ATEM Extreme addressed many of these issues. I know it’s not a direct comparison with eight inputs as opposed to four but this unit not streaming and recording makes it a different category in my mind. The assignable USB out is a cool feature. For troubleshooting it showing the frame rate and res on the input side is very helpful.
I can see this being the right tool for the job in several situations as It has a nice feature set for those who do conference recording/streaming. Just having the ability for a dual PIP over a background is worth it at that price point. And, I am Ok with having to use an external recorder/streamer as there are plenty of options available. But what I really like is not having to connect a laptop just to change settings. I'm going to have to give it a hard look.
I like the power button. I run an ATEM Mini Extreme at work and people are constantly getting worried that it has accidentally been left on and looking for the power switch. I'll probably end up with just having the whole rack unplugged at the end of the day. I just hope things are done in the right order as there are things that need to be shut down properly.
Hi Aaron, please do a full review on the Avmatrix hvs0402u product. I would love to see a combo of using the Avmatrix hvs0402u with the yolobox pro. Seems like it could be a better combo than using Yolobox pro with the atem mini pro.
The speed these devices and their reviews come out is maddening. Please don't think I am now ditching the Atem within a year and switch to this device? For our simple use in small churches the Atem Mini Pro is almost perfect. Mostly operated by non technical people all they need is a couple of simple buttons and nothing else. The options on this AVMatrix are only complicating things and scaring people off. But then that's my situation.
And that's why I brought it. This is BETTER.
Arron you are a LEGEND mate 👍🏻 New subscriber here. Looking forward to learning from you. Cheers from Western Australia 🇦🇺
Hi Aaron thanks for the video, did you have a particular setting (size and dimensions, positioning)for the 2 pic in pic side by side to get it perfectly, if so what are they please, thx
Would love to see the “tie” button and their update will record and have streaming capabilities. Hopefully!
Based on your review, I think I'd rather feed this (vs the atem mini) into my Yolobox Pro if needed extra video sources and audio delay. Trying to avoid the computer and item software.
Nice review Aaron. I really like the features in this mixer.
One quick question, what about image quality?
Some months ago I read a review regarding this mixer, they compared the ATEM mini Line with this Avmatrix, and mentioned some slight color and gamma shift when compared with the source.
Did you had time to run some tests regarding quality lost after the digital processing?
Thank you
The assignable USB is really nice, as is the display of the frame rates. I wonder if those can be done with just software changes on the Mini Pro/Extreme line.
Great presentation, thanks.
I basically have gone through everything in setting up this unit for our small church online streaming service. We however are not able to get in the PowerPoint text overlay etc. Can someone help please.
Very nice Aaron
If this had streaming and ISO recording it would be perfect for most of what I do.
You didn't go into software, does it have programmable macros and assignable shortcut keys? What's the audio control like?
With all it can do, I would probably recommend it over the ATEM Mini and Pro but not the ISO or Extremes.
Aaron, if you recall, any sense of the workflow when you need to load 2-3 lower thirds during the stream? Trying to find a way to have those pre-loaded and not have to use menu's to switch between. thanks.
Use h2r graphics.
Well covered Stand Alone Device...1). Power Button 2). Headphone Jack 3). 2 Picture in Picture 4).2 HDMI Outputs & USB Output 5). Dedicated Logo Feature 6). Input Framerate & Resolution 7). USB Drive loading Graphics 8).Audio Delay Feature 9)Multi-User Saved Configuration. No 👎Streaming n No Recording...
Hi Aaron, have you had any experience with the PVS0403U? Sdi and HDMI inputs with a built in screen in a case!
Using the usb c out for multi view would allow me to use a hdmi out with a separate capture card for my computer, and possibly use the 2nd hdmi out to encode to RUclips. Would a USB c to USB A cord serve an older type USB monitor? And which cheap encoder to go for? Probably the same price range as an ATEM mini extreme at that point, but I think I like not relying on my computer for the ATEM app..
So unfortunate that it didn't have the record/stream features. Otherwise, this would have been a killer.
the one thing that drives me nuts even on the extreme is the "missing ability to chose the USB-out"
if BM would put that in via FW i
Usb C - output for multi view
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HDMI 1 & 2 - LED videowall separate contents
Purchased one recently. It is very nice, well built, but unfortunately may be sending it back. I've been testing it out sending the program feed via the USB into OBS. When using it everything looks perfect in the multiview but in OBS I can see it dropping frames. Did an A/B test and tried switching to HDMI Capture card (also via) usb and video was smooth. When I switch back the problem persists. Shame. This thing is REALLY nice, especially the built in menu in the multiview and the T Bar is just so nice.
Please review Cinetreak Mini Mixer
That looks pretty neat! Does it have a 3DVE so it can flip and rotate an input source? I have an ATEM Mini, which doesn't have one, and it makes it useless for me as one of my inputs is a down facing DSLR and I need to rotate the image 180deg.
It’s a great video… it’s a fat chance I would ever turn back now from all the BMD stuff… great option.
please what's the different between the PGM and clean PGM on AVMatrix HVS0402U
Thank you
Pls how many output does this device have
can I see multy view through USB 3 port on PC at the time of streaming
Cordial Saludo Aaron
¿Qué monitor HDMI recorder es ese que tienes en el video ?
Gracias
Es un YoloBox!
Nice device! A pitty it does not stream like AMP?
Hi Aaron. I am thinking of getting the Stem mini for use with my MacBook and Mac Mini. However I also have a Chromebook. Would the Atem hardware still work as a webcam switcher etc for a Chromebook? I realise the software would not be compatible, but if I could use it to add additional HDMI inputs on my Chromebook that would suffice. I have a cheap HDMI capture card that works on the Chromebook so can't see why the Atem wouldn't.
I haven't actually tried that but I would also think it should work! As long as the Chromebook supports USB capture cards!
Very nice video and the HVS0402U does seem to be more feature rich than the ATEM Mini, but there is a bit of a price difference at least in the UK. ATEM Mini ~£260 AVMatrix HVS0402U ~£550, so that's pretty much double the price. Even the ATEM Mini Pro is ~£460 which is still cheaper. But I can see where the stand alone features could be a clincher for people 😊
You pay for what you get
what type of power will it take.....if you are mobile can it run on a power bank or something like the Yolo Liv?
Good question! It actually uses a 12V power supply just like the ATEM Mini. I was actually powering it with the ATEM Mini Extreme power supply for this video since that cable was already on my desk.
Unfortunately the device is not available here in Asia.
@AaronParecki @AVMATRIX. I purchased an AV Matrix. I connected my Canon RP camera to it using a brand new high-quality USB to HDMI cable. The AV Matrix did not recognize it. Does a camera have to be configured a certain way for the switcher to recognize it? Please help.
You'll need to connect the camera with an HDMI cable, not a USB-to-HDMI cable. I don't have any Canon cameras but it does look like the Canon RP has the option for "clean HDMI out", so make sure you also look up that setting to make it work. But you'll definitely need a regular HDMI cable to connect the two. I'm not sure what kind of USB-to-HDMI cable you have or what that would work with.
Also make sure the hdmi cable is not longer than 40 feet
Aaron does AV!atrix make a unit similar with a hardware encoder built in?
Not yet!
WOW! It seems that this put the ATEM into kindergaten!!!!!!!
Can this be used with companion?
I haven't seen a Companion module for it yet. They do have a software app for it, so it's theoretically possible, but I'm not sure if they've published docs on their control protocol.
@@aaronpk I hope they do it. Really interesting product. Thanks for the review!
Atem Mini Extreme, does all that and much more.
It's also almost twice the price!
@@aaronpk Indeed.
Another higher Model 0602U has SDI input
@@KhoaNguyen-xj6gk it also doesn’t have a fridge
Can it do macros?
Avmatrix is a good option, but i preffer Atem Mini Pro
Had me intrested up to no recording and no streaming.
AVMatrix HVS0401E have a recorder
I will be using an iPad wireless along with the camera wireless and 35 mm can’t work with that
the atem mini extreme iso can do most of the things listed here
I wouldn't say "most" no. The Extreme does have: headphone jack, more upstream keyers, two HDMI outputs, but that's about where the list ends.
@@aaronpk thats actually a lots of big features. i agree not 100%, but the big ones are supported. logo support, although not as convenient, is achievable with the atem. sure, there is no on/off button but you can easily order a cable with a switch on amazon, not a dealbreaker. on the other hand, the atem has ISO recording on all 8 channels simultaneously WHILE it can also stream in the same time without a laptop, etc. it's an impressive device though, i'm always keeping an open eye for new tech & thank you for the review & comparison, it was very interesting. i'm keeping the atem for now though. :)
(roland has some pretty impressive streaming video mixers too, but those are also lacking some key features the atem can do).
grand
I don't like the power button. Too easy to accidentally turn it off!
I should have shown how to turn it off! You have to hold it down for a couple seconds, then a menu appears on the screen and you have to rotate the knob to select "confirm" and then press "ok", so there's definitely no way to accidentally turn it off
Yeah, that's a pretty important thing. First thing I thought of when I saw the power button - "uh-oh, clumsy me will accidentally turn it off in the middle of streaming"
Yeah 1st here
Something about the color scheme they used just screams ATARI.
Hi can you please Review the New AVmatrix shark S6