So we’re just not gonna talk about the panties on the wall 🧐 All jokes aside, thanks for coming by and making my house look pretty! Hurry up and move to LA so I can have more RUclipsr friends ❤️
it's wild to see garret go from being kicked out from a rental because of building a mini ramp in the backyard(if i'm remembering correctly) to owning his own property and doing it again but better
the arguement was that you cant straight nosegrind a round rail. Garret being able to disprove that was the mind blowing factor. still... not sure how many straight nosegrinds there are out there on bigger rails
props on the editing for this one! you could feel the fun you guys had and see the respect you each have for each others skill. some great chemistry on display. sorry Dale, John gotta new bestie, lol
I hate open floor plans with a passion. If you live alone its fine but when you add 2 or more people to a living space the noise just echoes to every corner of the house. its the worse
Great video! I enjoyed Garret and your dynamic. Dale and Garrets videos are also great, I suggest a Garret, Dale and John video with street skating please.
I completely agree regarding the nosegrind / overcrook debacle. I also opinionize that a manual is WITH an ollie and without the ollie its just a wheelie... period!!!
I grew up skating with the pro Ryan Smith quite a bit as there weren't a lot of skate spots in the town we grew up in (Zero New Blood, he's the guy that did the ?18? stair back lip for the closer of the Mystery teaser) . He had just gone pro when we'd met and I had just gotten flow for Circa and was on the local shop team. One day when we were skating, I was trying Kickflip front nosegrinds on a round rail and after a few tries he said "you got it, you just need to lock in. turn your body and lock in overcrook and you got it" and he went and did a kickflip front over crook. It confused the hell out of me, so I was like "dude, they're different tricks". I did exactly what Garrett just did and I just got the most wild deja vu because his response was EXACTLY the same as Johns. Next, the skateboarding industry needs to make nollie rotation tricks follow the same front side and back side rules as the other 3 stances.
Well technically yes. I was also an overcrook guy for a long time but then I just thought - 99% of people who grind on the front truck on a round rail pinch it. So it is a nosegrind for them. I mean if I was able to do nosegrinds on round rails even if I pinched it I would still call them nosegrinds. Because then there a valid argument could be made on a lot of the 5-0 grinds done either on a rail or on a box that they’re turned, so they are actually Suski or pivot grinds. Oh and back 180 nosegrinds? Those are rarely balanced and all the way 180’d. What would those be? Technically back 180 crooks…? It’s sometimes logic, sometimes tradition when it comes to trick names. And for me that’s kind of okay as long as we can explain each other what the fuck the trick is that we’re trying.
@@bovedli "Overcrook" wasn't even really a term when I was growing up. Never even considered that anyone would want to call a nosegrind on a round rail something else because of the natural pinch. And now I still call it a nosegrind when I do them, and I'll continue to do so especially because of the people who get so mad about it. 😆
One of your best videos so far, loved the energy the editing the music everything felt natural like a nice chill sesh at the homies crib like how it should be gray job man keep it up!
I agree 1000% with them being different tricks (Nosegrind and Crook / Overcrook), in the same way a Salad and a 5-0 aren't the same trick, one is locked either heel-side or toe-side with the board strait and the other has to be pinched with both wheels against the ledge or rail (but the same arguments exist there, because if its bs it's a Suski if it's over the rail it's a salad, etc it should just be salad over salad and crook over crook, but i get it and appreciate it the names have historical significance, etc) and while we are on the topic i'm also on the side of recognizing heel-side locked, toe-side locked and cross locked 50-50's as all being their own separate tricks.
Totally agree with Garet... or blondie? When I learned nosegrinds I took them to round rails and kept them straight. Going for the over crook you need to use way more shoulder and hip involvement. But then again on flat rails its much easier to see the difference.
I get the feeling Ginner just has rich parents, full stop. I also get that feeling from John Hill, as well. Then again, it's all really a matter of perspective and mine are so poor that the vast majority of comments below are gonna be people from rungs above on the ol social ladder
That nosegrind/overcrook blew my mind. Lol I can do them both ways too yet people would ask me and I would tell them to call it whatever they want .. It's like I separated the two in my mind yet people haven't really separated the two in the skating community
production in all of your vids is completely top notch, i started watching in 2019 and i didnt even skate at the time. I skate now and am progressing daily thanks to you. Much appreciated and keep up the sick ass content.
Garrett: "this is notoriously very very very hard to skate, I don't think anyone has had a good sesh on their first time" *10sec later* John has a sick skate edit to a sweet lil lofi dnb tune John is always skating the most random and wild spots so this is nothin for him. Love that they'll be collabing more :)
@Charles ahh I see, an uncultured man who has never been to a rave or seen a DJ play before. For songs you don't know you ask for the ID of them. It's the identification of it if you don't know what that means. I understand you are stuck in the prehistoric times and listen to dad rock. Eventually you'll make it around.
@@bigtub22 Yo i dont see what the charles dude commented but this seems unnecesarily condescending. You really only needed to say the 2nd sentence and could've left the rest out, if you want to educate people at least be nice about it. Not everyone listens to electronic music or knows about the culture so having an attitude like this will probably turn people away from the scene more than help it grow. Just something to keep in mind for the future 👍 If you're a Griz fan, keep in mind to SLSL 💜
@Devon McAllister it's a joke dude. He said something unnecessary to me so this being the internet I said something unnecessary back. It's not that serious people make jokes
Totally with Garret on the overcrook thing. It started driving me crazy when people started saying "overcrook on a rail doesn't exist it's just a nosegrind because nosegrind just naturally falls into a overcrook" but they have no problem saying a salad or a suski can be done on a rail. Where's the logic? lol
I never understood the nosegrind vs overcrook debate. one is straight and the other is crooked. you might be pinching on the heel for both tricks but the pinch doesn't make the trick, the orientation of the board does
Best video in a long time. My two favorite you tubers and skateboarders. Great start of my day. And yes, you both live your dreams thanks to working so, so hard!! No spoiled men. Respect!
Enjoyed watching this video a lot! Good groove, nice behind the scenes and good mix of talking and skateboarding in my view. Great to see you two together!
remember when you and garret would be in videos in like 2016 i think, havent watched a video from here since and Its crazy how far both of you guys came i always liked your guys vids and i will be watching ur vids again i forgot how much I like them
Yeah Garrett has done really well he has a sick house. You could put a pool table in the 2nd lounge room n make it a games room coz if you put sheet of wood on top you can use it as a pool table. N put small house basket ball hope on the wall n get a soft basketball.
8:32 I can’t do the trick, but I agree that a nose grind should be straight. It’s for skaters with dummy bananas board control. I’ve tried to nose stall on Tran and it always goes to over k
I've watched Garrett grow up... It's weird. Used to be a crappy little ego weirdo to an amazing human... Always was, but now he is more humble. And I love him for it
i never thought the nosegrind vs overcrook was even a thing you can clearly see the different lock in and twist of body with over crook lol 2 similar but very different tricks
Doing a fs overcrook (on a round rail specifically)is like doing a frontside 5-0 pinching it and because it's slightly sideways calling it another trick..
Steve Berra was on one of his typical Instagram rampages a few years ago telling people you absolutely cannot nose grind a hand rail, therefore even though it's an overcook it's really a nose grind because "that's the only way you can nose grind a rail". True story
As per the overkrook nosegrond debate, I feel like some people just lock their nose grinds in on round bars like that, so while technically yes it looks different, I do think intention matters, but then again I'm 38 😂 maybe ask Paul Machnau or Rick McCrank 🤷♂️
Overcrooks are meant to be harder than nosegrinds, which they are when done backside. But they’re generally easier than nosegrinds when done frontside, hence why they just get called nosegrinds.
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So we’re just not gonna talk about the panties on the wall 🧐
All jokes aside, thanks for coming by and making my house look pretty! Hurry up and move to LA so I can have more RUclipsr friends ❤️
More of this guys, I'll definitely watch it from both of your channels 😊
as someone who loves skate culture but due to my bad knees since childhood this seems ideal to learn how to skate from zero to basics
to continue, it has pretty much everything you would need to tackle basics, to even more advanced lines
W garrett vaginer
Would watch every video and vlog
it's wild to see garret go from being kicked out from a rental because of building a mini ramp in the backyard(if i'm remembering correctly) to owning his own property and doing it again but better
I can’t remember him getting kicked out . If I’m not mistaken I think that was his moms house
It’s wild to see garret wearing a wrist brace all the time to this
I enjoyed that a lot. I hope you throw yourself into more social situations like that! You never seem to regret it.
*Lands nose grind and overcrook on that rail like it's nothing. 😮 dudes so damn good lol
100% agree on Garret’s logic with nose grinds and over crooks, I’m not sure when people started calling over crooks nose grinds
Like 20 years ago haha, glad it’s changing up
the arguement was that you cant straight nosegrind a round rail. Garret being able to disprove that was the mind blowing factor. still... not sure how many straight nosegrinds there are out there on bigger rails
I think it started with THPS. I feel like before that I hadn't heard it
I'm 32 always called them nose crooks nose grind is when board is parallel with the object you are grinding
John is sassy af 😂
props on the editing for this one!
you could feel the fun you guys had and see the respect you each have for each others skill.
some great chemistry on display. sorry Dale, John gotta new bestie, lol
You and garret always had great chemistry in videos, hyped to see more!
So dope! It has always been a dream of mine to own a house with backyard ramps one day.
huge fan of yours Billy. I don't even skate, I ride BMX. I would love to see a sesh in your backyard
you almost there
Sim Racing x John Hill was not the collab i was expecting but i am 100% here for it lfg
Dude, his face while driving is gold 😂👌👌👌
BIG ❤️ for still synchronizing the tricks and the beat. A John Hill signature
bro needs to watch more hgtv can turn those 2 living rooms into one giant open floor living room
I hate open floor plans with a passion. If you live alone its fine but when you add 2 or more people to a living space the noise just echoes to every corner of the house. its the worse
Great video! I enjoyed Garret and your dynamic. Dale and Garrets videos are also great, I suggest a Garret, Dale and John video with street skating please.
my favorite 2 street skaters from the youtube era, you two should do a podcast down the road
I completely agree regarding the nosegrind / overcrook debacle. I also opinionize that a manual is WITH an ollie and without the ollie its just a wheelie... period!!!
This vid was so freaking cool. You seem to get along with Garret very well and the vibe you guys give off is amazing. Keep shredding
YESSS THIS IS THE BIDEO I BEEN WANTING TWO OF MY FAV RUclipsRS SKATERS AND PEOPLE TOGETHER
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Dude you guys skating together is a blast to watch . Thanks for this John 🤙👊
I grew up skating with the pro Ryan Smith quite a bit as there weren't a lot of skate spots in the town we grew up in (Zero New Blood, he's the guy that did the ?18? stair back lip for the closer of the Mystery teaser) . He had just gone pro when we'd met and I had just gotten flow for Circa and was on the local shop team. One day when we were skating, I was trying Kickflip front nosegrinds on a round rail and after a few tries he said "you got it, you just need to lock in. turn your body and lock in overcrook and you got it" and he went and did a kickflip front over crook. It confused the hell out of me, so I was like "dude, they're different tricks". I did exactly what Garrett just did and I just got the most wild deja vu because his response was EXACTLY the same as Johns. Next, the skateboarding industry needs to make nollie rotation tricks follow the same front side and back side rules as the other 3 stances.
Both great creators. Enjoy both of you guys’s videos keep killing it
Thank you for settling the nosegrind and overcrook debate
Garrett is completely right about the overcrook. I have been saying that for years.
Well technically yes.
I was also an overcrook guy for a long time but then I just thought - 99% of people who grind on the front truck on a round rail pinch it. So it is a nosegrind for them. I mean if I was able to do nosegrinds on round rails even if I pinched it I would still call them nosegrinds.
Because then there a valid argument could be made on a lot of the 5-0 grinds done either on a rail or on a box that they’re turned, so they are actually Suski or pivot grinds.
Oh and back 180 nosegrinds? Those are rarely balanced and all the way 180’d. What would those be? Technically back 180 crooks…?
It’s sometimes logic, sometimes tradition when it comes to trick names. And for me that’s kind of okay as long as we can explain each other what the fuck the trick is that we’re trying.
@@bovedli "Overcrook" wasn't even really a term when I was growing up. Never even considered that anyone would want to call a nosegrind on a round rail something else because of the natural pinch. And now I still call it a nosegrind when I do them, and I'll continue to do so especially because of the people who get so mad about it. 😆
One of your best videos so far, loved the energy the editing the music everything felt natural like a nice chill sesh at the homies crib like how it should be gray job man keep it up!
😮it’s been more than five years I’ve watched you both. Love the positive energy you both have.
I agree 1000% with them being different tricks (Nosegrind and Crook / Overcrook), in the same way a Salad and a 5-0 aren't the same trick, one is locked either heel-side or toe-side with the board strait and the other has to be pinched with both wheels against the ledge or rail (but the same arguments exist there, because if its bs it's a Suski if it's over the rail it's a salad, etc it should just be salad over salad and crook over crook, but i get it and appreciate it the names have historical significance, etc) and while we are on the topic i'm also on the side of recognizing heel-side locked, toe-side locked and cross locked 50-50's as all being their own separate tricks.
Did you ever toe side lock on a rail. Me never. It is dangerous
I used to skate 25 years ago in the UK and we always knew them as two distint tricks as Garret said
Totally agree with Garet... or blondie? When I learned nosegrinds I took them to round rails and kept them straight. Going for the over crook you need to use way more shoulder and hip involvement. But then again on flat rails its much easier to see the difference.
Man speak of the devil, I’ve missed watching Garrett’s vids so you guys doing a collab house tour was the vibes I needed lately, keep it up🔥
I get the feeling Ginner just has rich parents, full stop. I also get that feeling from John Hill, as well. Then again, it's all really a matter of perspective and mine are so poor that the vast majority of comments below are gonna be people from rungs above on the ol social ladder
That nosegrind/overcrook blew my mind. Lol I can do them both ways too yet people would ask me and I would tell them to call it whatever they want .. It's like I separated the two in my mind yet people haven't really separated the two in the skating community
What a dope setup! That car simulator scene was funny as hell lol
I wanna see some games of skate between you guys - on flat and every obstacle!
Yesssss! I've been waiting for this vid ever since you started releasing LA vids again.
I consider a nosegrind where the board is mostly parallel to the rail.. like you're doing a nose manny but on the rail.
So dope to see you guys reunite. Good sesh
Garrett is the best man, you two are my favorite
production in all of your vids is completely top notch, i started watching in 2019 and i didnt even skate at the time. I skate now and am progressing daily thanks to you. Much appreciated and keep up the sick ass content.
garrett + john hill = w vid
the nosegrind vs overcrook was great haha, but also I was shocked to see a nosegrind on a circle rail! that's wild
The best duo in the history of youtube skateboarders ever
The aesthetic in this entire video and the music choice during the skate montage dude. Impecible. Love it start to finish.
Also I cant believe I wasnt subbed to you already.
love your videos john! keep it up your such a inspiration for me someone who struggles with the same stuff as you do!
bro so glad u guys explained those two tricks i hate when ppl say over crook is nose grind
The nose grind / over crook facts . Delivered perfectly !!
It also matters what camera angle it’s taken from .
He is right, was always wondering why they call it nose grind everywhere, also SLS etc.
Garrett: "this is notoriously very very very hard to skate, I don't think anyone has had a good sesh on their first time"
*10sec later*
John has a sick skate edit to a sweet lil lofi dnb tune
John is always skating the most random and wild spots so this is nothin for him. Love that they'll be collabing more :)
does anyone have the ID for that tune?
@@bigtub22 the id for that tune? What fucking planet are you from
@Charles ahh I see, an uncultured man who has never been to a rave or seen a DJ play before. For songs you don't know you ask for the ID of them. It's the identification of it if you don't know what that means. I understand you are stuck in the prehistoric times and listen to dad rock. Eventually you'll make it around.
@@bigtub22 Yo i dont see what the charles dude commented but this seems unnecesarily condescending. You really only needed to say the 2nd sentence and could've left the rest out, if you want to educate people at least be nice about it. Not everyone listens to electronic music or knows about the culture so having an attitude like this will probably turn people away from the scene more than help it grow. Just something to keep in mind for the future 👍 If you're a Griz fan, keep in mind to SLSL 💜
@Devon McAllister it's a joke dude. He said something unnecessary to me so this being the internet I said something unnecessary back. It's not that serious people make jokes
Totally with Garret on the overcrook thing. It started driving me crazy when people started saying "overcrook on a rail doesn't exist it's just a nosegrind because nosegrind just naturally falls into a overcrook" but they have no problem saying a salad or a suski can be done on a rail. Where's the logic? lol
I remember watching all you before you were famous and this is amazing.
Such a good combination Garret + John >>>>>>>>
I never understood the nosegrind vs overcrook debate. one is straight and the other is crooked. you might be pinching on the heel for both tricks but the pinch doesn't make the trick, the orientation of the board does
Best video in a long time. My two favorite you tubers and skateboarders. Great start of my day. And yes, you both live your dreams thanks to working so, so hard!! No spoiled men. Respect!
Needed this collab 🔥
I have a friend that can do nose grinds on rail too. We used to see it all the time. So we used to call the trick overcrook.
love this, miss watching videos like this
Never heard someone call a overcrocked a nosegrind. It's like calling a lipslide for bordslide.. 😂
Enjoyed watching this video a lot! Good groove, nice behind the scenes and good mix of talking and skateboarding in my view. Great to see you two together!
Love Garret he’s been killin it ❤
remember when you and garret would be in videos in like 2016 i think, havent watched a video from here since and Its crazy how far both of you guys came i always liked your guys vids and i will be watching ur vids again i forgot how much I like them
I know it's not but ahhh at the entrance, it looks like they left valentine's day lingerie on the wall too lmao.
yeah was gon say
I love, love, love this house!!
Would love to see more videos together! Y’all are such good skaters
Yeah Garrett has done really well he has a sick house. You could put a pool table in the 2nd lounge room n make it a games room coz if you put sheet of wood on top you can use it as a pool table. N put small house basket ball hope on the wall n get a soft basketball.
8:32 I can’t do the trick, but I agree that a nose grind should be straight. It’s for skaters with dummy bananas board control. I’ve tried to nose stall on Tran and it always goes to over k
Yes! I was so hoping you guys would hang out
more john and garrett vids lets goooo! what a blast from the past
such a fun chill video, looking foward to more like this
The RuneScape music and skating >>
yes please! more videos like this one.
0:50 getting workaholic vibes here 😂
I hope that all is well for everyone here and I hope that you all have a great day today.
Wow. This video was really fun to watch. Love your guys chemistry!
hope to see you around LA!
Definitely need more videos with Garrett!
Love seeing you and Garrett together
Yoooooooooo definitely make more videos together it was so cool to see you guys reunite and hang out 🔥 vid
i love how the landings match the beat
I've watched Garrett grow up... It's weird. Used to be a crappy little ego weirdo to an amazing human... Always was, but now he is more humble. And I love him for it
Great video and skateboarding and collaboration.
i never thought the nosegrind vs overcrook was even a thing you can clearly see the different lock in and twist of body with over crook lol 2 similar but very different tricks
Seeing John and Sara exist as husband and wife is just so amazing! Happy for y'all!
Watch you and Garrett skate takes me back 👌
You Guys totally killed it the back yard Skate park Wow So Awesome 🙂🫡👍
Love that Garret had cold air intake piping popping up from that engine bay
Immaculate vibes with the music nicely chosen
"crate trained" LMFAO
fun video - been watching you all for years
This was an awesome video. Sarah reaction was priceless. Lol.
Doing a fs overcrook (on a round rail specifically)is like doing a frontside 5-0 pinching it and because it's slightly sideways calling it another trick..
Great vibes all around in this video.
remember the struggle days, glad to still be here to see the come up! Progress Daily!
This house is so sick! I love that Garrett is all about calling it an overcrook! They are absolutely 2 different tricks 1000%
1st song during the skate sesh, sounds amazing at half speed.
Garrett is a true G 🎉
Garrett and John skate content wow good stuff
Steve Berra was on one of his typical Instagram rampages a few years ago telling people you absolutely cannot nose grind a hand rail, therefore even though it's an overcook it's really a nose grind because "that's the only way you can nose grind a rail". True story
As per the overkrook nosegrond debate, I feel like some people just lock their nose grinds in on round bars like that, so while technically yes it looks different, I do think intention matters, but then again I'm 38 😂 maybe ask Paul Machnau or Rick McCrank 🤷♂️
What was the name of the song you used in the main skate session? It's freakin great
you are so awesome True skateboarder and very good at it and you have Nice house and your dog was so cute and your skatepark it was so cool
Very cool episode of MTV cribs!!!
LEYKIS 101 !!
Overcrooks are meant to be harder than nosegrinds, which they are when done backside. But they’re generally easier than nosegrinds when done frontside, hence why they just get called nosegrinds.