The only 2 prime lenses you NEED for Portrait Photography
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
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Thanks for having me on this one Julia! It was soo much fun and thanks for letting me use your Sony :P
What a great combo! Mitch and Julia in the same video. I’m surprised you didn’t have the r6, but the eos r is great too since that’s what I’m currently shooting with. Thanks for the video!
Haha crazy I've been following you on instagram for ages and had no idea that you had a youtube channel 😅
Keep up the great work man! :)
@@garyrobinson3 new subribers here.
We enjoy both of you 👍👍👍👍👍
you guys are great!
85 tells Only You and Me; 35 tells where we are.
And 50 tells you and me at here.
Singh. H Yes
This post is Great...going to write it down lol
400 tells where you leave
@@insidefeelings9434😂😂waffa
I love how Mitch represents Tamron, no one is taking advantage of them
But Tamron literally dominates Sony E mount.
KingSam I pretty much agree but I grew up with sigma so I’ve stuck with them
I actually hate my sigma 35 and im considering the tamron 35
Kenyatta Davis why do you hate the sigma 35? I have it and I’m still learning how to use it
Kenyatta Davis the sigma 1.4? I have the 1.2 and I love it. Have you tested the tamron?
I only have the 50 1.8 🤣
Nothing better for day time.
in crop camera body it almost equal to 85 mm
Me to😑
@@mohammedmalik9311 not really. That’s a big misconception you often hear on the internet.
(You may know but I post this as a general info for others, as many mistake it on the internet)
On crop, a 50 still is a 50. you will get the same perspective, bokeh and compression. The only difference is that the image is basically cropped. It’s like taking an image with a 50 in a full frame and cropping it later. It doesn’t change anything you are just „loosing“ the outer parts of the image.
So what actually changes is that on a crop camera, you are forced to step back to get the same content on the image. Stepping back in turn will have an effect on the background blur/bokeh (it gets less) and on the depth of field.
The reason why photographers choose specific lenses is usually because for the above effects.
That’s why people should be aware of this when thinking that getting a 50 for their crop camera will give them a 85.
@@Seitenwerk thanks you and that why croped sense wouldnt compare to ff sense interm of image quality
I give Mitch the win because I like his editing style more. Both did great tho!
Absolutely love all the 85mm ones! Not sure what it is and I know 35mm is loved by many.. but the 85mm does it for me!
I think this is the first comparison video that really shows the feelings you get with these two different focal length. Because most of the videos talk about technical stuff which is nice but what makes you choose a lens is what you want to share with the audience or yourself
yees... this is what we need
Wow, the girl model is a natural! Nice work guys :)
It makes me really happy seeing that you were both shooting a lot in live view. I've always felt so self conscience shooting in live view instead of with the view finder when doing portraits! Sometimes it really helps making your composition
Yeah I get some negative comments sometimes about how I shoot in live view, but honestly it doesn’t matter! I always recommend for you to just shoot in whatever way makes you comfortable and gets you the shots you want 😊 I also really love live view as I feel more open to talking to and directing my subjects rather than having my face buried behind my camera the entire time haha
Self conscience?
I think you mean self CONSCIOUS.
Good grief.
The 35mm has an editorial feel whereas the 85mm seems more for frames on your desk or wall.
Damn this is the first time I’ve heard these focal lengths described like that - and I completely agree!
Perfect description ❤️
Lmao this is so true! I love the perspective 🤣
Yes perfectly put!
And 50mm is neither nor lol
Scissors paper rock????????? It's Rock paper scissors!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Ahaha welcome to Australia 🤣
The land down under 😂 hence the language too
Strayaaa 😂
Everything is backwards in Australia
Here in Cali we say it paper scissors rock 😂
Yes! Great! That's all you need 85mm and 35mm! I use Canon 85/1.2 and 35/2.0 ... :-)
Thank you for this test, in my opinion, the 35mm seems like smartphone photos, too much distortion in closeup, 85mm wins.
È perché non lo sanno usare.
💖💖💖 I love how mich smile cute while jullia is talkingg hahaha
I talked with a friend the other week about lenses and he said he is going to buy a 24-70, so I told him I'd rather buy a 35+85 combo. Glad I'm not the only one who thinks it's the best combo lol.
Before I got to this video , I thought of that too hahah , so here I am buying the SP 35mm 1.4 first (pretty broke rn , just a student) specially here in the Philippines where gear is much expensive. Also for the reason I have a dx at the moment haha
No One takes photos the real way anymore... weird. LiveView now.
I’ve been trying to do 1 lens challenges on photo shoots lately, these are definitely my go to lengths. I think I really like the 85 for fewer background distractions. Also, I’ve been stitching 85 photos for a “wide” look - it’s been interesting.
I love limiting myself to only using one lens sometimes too, it can help with some creativity 😄 and ooh the stitching sounds great! I used to do that with my 50mm shots until I got a 35 hehe
I really dig the idea of stitching together frames for a panoramic image. May I ask which software you’re using to do this?
Back before digital (dating myself here, I know) I used to shoot 6x6 and then crop heavily to get a panorama effect. I would cut down 20x24 paper into 3 strips and I got some pretty decent results printing 8x20 images from medium format negs. I miss the days when NYC had rental darkrooms where you could easily print 20x24.
Patrick Littlefield I used adobe light room. It definitely gives a medium format look to the images
Honestly, you were the one who convince me to move to prime lenses since my d750. And now I brought the lens over to the mirrorless world. You're an inspiration.
It's just a pleasant experience to watch your videos. So Calm.
By the way... for portraits, 85mm give the best output everyway. 35mm feels much like Point and Shoot Camera.
But for me 50mm is One solution to All situation
Indeed, I was wondering, what if Julia bring to that shot the 55?
Same. I used to shoot with an 85 but it was always such a pain trying to get back far enough.
I'm a 35 & 85 shooter, but recently added the 135GM. WOW! This adds a whole next dimension to my images!
Omg yessss! My trio of primes is usually 35, 50 and 85 but now moving to Sony and having that beautiful GM 135 I think this will replace my 50 as 3rd favourite 😅
Julia Trotti The images are sharp and 3 dimensional, bokeh & fall off dreamy, and quick precise AF. It’s sooooo good!
Such a fun video to watch. Here in the States, it's "Rock, Paper, Scissors" . Intersting twist!
I give Julia the win because she is Julia ! 😎
I am so confused 🤣 both are absolutely perfect 🥰
I personally love the compression of the 85, 105, 135, and 70-200 for photos. I still got the RF 35mm 1.8 for my R6 because I prefer it for video!
Based on these images I definitely prefer the 85
Me too.
Completely agree with Katie.
Great video once again! Random question: do you just walk the neighborhood, stop, and shoot, or do you knock on every door of the house you are using as the background (to request permission)?
Thank you! If we are just shooting with the outside of the building like we did here then I normally just shoot without asking. We try to be quiet, respectful to the property and we don’t stay for long either, usually just 5 or so minutes - plus if someone comes and asks us to leave we will go straight away. If I want to use something that’s right in someone’s front yard or I think we’ll be there for longer than 5 mins then I’ll knock and ask! But people in Sydney are usually really nice about it all and I’ve personally never had any issues 😊
@@juliatrotti Thanks so much! That makes sense. I was just curious. :) I've heard people in Sydney are super friendly. I hope to visit Australia one day when the world is back to normal.
Damn, that subscriber count do be lookin’ ‘little low doe
85mm wins for me...love the look!!!
too bad i only have a kitlens and a 50mm prime
U need only three lense to shoot human
1st 50mm f1.2/1.4
2nd 70-200 f2.8 or 400mm f2.8
3rd 12-24mm f2.8
1st is for normal client
2nd is who are bokeh fan
3rd is who likes creative shots of ultra wide
I don't think there is another catagory of clients for outdoor/studio shoots
This is perfect! I have a 35 and don’t have an 85mm yet but it’s hard to figure out the difference without side by side shots. This video provided those side by side shots! Very nice! Thank you!
I love my 85 mm for portraits. I hardly ever touch my 35 mm except for weddings. I use my 85 mm or my 70-200 at 200 mm for portraits. I use my 85 mm about 90% of the time and 200 mm the other 10% and I’ve had great success with that
Same as me. I can get tempted by wide for certain scenarios but by wide i mean at least 16mm. Then there's 400 or 600mm but i don't shoot enough wildlife to justify that. Zero interest in the 24-70 range.
@@fredriksvard2603 It’s funny after I read your reply I read my post/comment and that was over a year ago. I don’t even touch my 70-200 for over six months now. If I do portraits I have three lenses for my Sony a7riv and A9. I use the Sony 135mm f1.8 GM if I have enough room, or I go to the sigma 105mm f1.4 art, and if it’s closer I will break out the new sigma 85mm f1.4 DG DN. They are the only 3 lenses I use for portraits. I do have a 24-70 but I only use it for weddings or video work I do with my A7iv. It’s funny how I went from using the 70-200 to just primes. I have a 35 f1.4, 50 f1.4, 90mm f2.8 G, and my 70-200 just collecting dust. Now I am kind of sick to my stomach after typing all those lenses out how much money is just sitting there doing nothing. Camera gear fever I just had to have it all. But you can only use one lens at a time
@@LMActionsports Those are world class lenses, maybe there are exotic hasselblad, zeiss, leica etc lenses out there that i'm not familiar with that can provide a different look but that's probably a matter of preference. I can see how you don't touch the 70-200. Those zooms though, sometimes you don't have time to change lenses. I can see how concert photographers who get to shoot the first 3 songs may want to carry one camera with 16-35 and one with 70-200. I still just use one camera, 85mm for small staged and 100-400 for big ones where i don't have pit access.
@@fredriksvard2603 wow I would love to have the opportunity to shoot a concert like you have. I was going to get the 100-400 Sony lens but I picked up the 200-600 Sony. The only bad thing about it is you need a lot of light or you have to jack up your ISO and I hate doing that. But I have heard great things about the 100-400. My dream lens to own is the 200mm f2. Maybe if I sell all my lenses I don’t use I can get one. It sucks that Sony don’t make a 200 f2 but I would get the canon version and adapt it. It just has that 3d pop. I have the poor man’s version with the Sigma 105 that produces the look sort of. Do you mind if I ask how you got into doing concerts and the steps of how I could go about it. I would love to have something like that in my portfolio.
@@LMActionsports I guess it depends on where you live. Here we have small and big gigs every day basically, some are open air with no restrictions on cameras. Also i just asked some venues if i could shoot there in exchange for photos they could use, they were happy with the results and asked me to shoot some bigger bands and so on. It's much easier than you'd think, i guess unless we're talking really big artists. Try it out, really small artists are probably just happy that someone's interested and happy to get quality photos. I'm not sure bigger is better. With smaller artists you can easily get shots from behind the stage, shots from soundcheck or just lounging around. With big artists, you're typically in front of the stage and can only shoot for 10-15 mins. In that situation you won't experiment as much. That said, one of my favourite shots is of James Hetfield, i brought a compact ricoh to show and shot basically from his lower leg up towards the guitar and face. The tricky bit with small clubs is the light, both the amount and the quality of it. With productions you can pretty much get away with f4, or aps-c.
100-400 is a useful range. I have some photos of grets van fleet and the hives taken with it. I'm probably more of a 70-200 person though, or better yet 135mm prime. I rarely feel a need to go wider than 85 or longer than 200. It also depends on what perspectives you like. I like the short-medium tele compression, and strongly dislike wide concert photos unless it's something pretty creative with a 15-16mm or so. For filmmaking, i can see why they shoot so much in the 24-35 range. It's a different ballgame.
I actually have the sony 200-600 next to me as we speak, it's not mine though. Great, but cumbersome. No offense but i kinda get the sense that you're a bit caught up in the gear thing. Reality is, people do mediocre stuff with expensive gear and vice versa. You probably have all you need to shoot cool stuff. Then again maybe you have a very clear idea about what types of photos you want to take with that 200mm that you can't take today. In general, i think it's easy to get caught up in sharpness, resolution, autofocus speed etc. I also see a lot of people chasing the entire range from 16mm to 600mm just to be covered. To do that with quality glass you'd have to spend a fortune, and you'd suffer from option paralysis since you'll only want a few lenses in your bag and can only have one on a camera at once. I saw a video with peter hurley the other day, he talks about his 24-105 f4 and his 100mm macro and nothing else - he knows exactly what he needs. I have a few pro photographers/filmmaker friends who are the same, they don't talk or think much about new gear at all really. At the venues here, there are a few photographers i see all the time. One with a sony and a few primes, one with two canon r bodies with rf 2.8 zooms, a few with generic 70-200 lenses, a few hipsters with something like 50mm 1.8 or all in one compacts. I can't say i see a correlation between gear and quality output. Maybe in the sense that experienced photographers with pro gear consistently get the editorial stock photo look. They're on assignment and they deliver. The photos are boring to me though, technically good but predictable and generic. That's the 24-70/70-200 3 song limit look, you'll get something different if you can hang around a whole day. If a 50mm 1.8 makes you fly under the radar a bit more, maybe that will let you take more interesting photos. One of the reasons i prefer my 85mm prime to a big white 70-200 2.8.
Nice Video! Great Images! Love the Poses! You and Mitch were Fantastic, but major props go to Liliana and Jarrod! Models in NYC would hate sitting on the ground especially in nice light color jeans. 😉
Thank you so much and I agree, they were absolutely amazing!
both are great lenses. i prefer 50mm to 35, because don't need to get as close to the models, also more background separation, and less need for a good background, instead focus more on the model. in fact if could only use 1, i think 50mm is my choice. since just move a little closer for 85mm like shots.
35 & 85, Best 2 focal lengths of all time, and the 20 and 600 for landscape and wildlife
I was today’s year old when I learned people say “scissors paper rock” and not “rock paper scissors”
Is it just me or do y’all think “modern” couple portraits are posed like a one-sided love? It’s always the male looking lovingly at the female and she just looks so disinterested. I find this true for most nonsmiling engagement, wedding, and general couple shoots
I hear that.
I think it depends on the style and what you’re going for - while these guys are a real couple we were going for a more “fashion-y/portrait” look with these photos. For my wedding photography I take a different approach since my couples have usually never posed in front of a camera before or are nervous so photos with the couple both looking at each other and more being in the moment are more comfortable to create :)
AverageDadMTB thank you!
@@juliatrotti not saying that's wrong, or your wrong. It just seems to be the trend lately. I appreciate your insight. :)
85mm wins when it comes to more romantic scene
I love those photos. What type of filter are you using?
Love this comparison! I started with just a 50mm and then went mirrorless and now I have only a 35mm while I save for an 85mm. Everyone says start with a 50mm but I kind of wish I had just started 35mm like I first considered. I'm so eager to get that 85mm though! Like Mitch said at the end, it just has a magic that I can't get with only the 35mm!
Same!
Mitch reminds me of Stu from What We Do In The Shadows. I like Mitch.
I bought lens and after 2 month i realised that 85mm really need space and 35mm isnt wide enough for group shot, now ditch those lens and planning to replace them for 50mm & 24mm/18mm
I think some photographers are also better at certain focal lengths. 35 is my go to sprinkled with a little 85mm
Yes definitely! Since I shoot so much on a 35, I naturally know the angles and distance to be standing to get the results I want. Put me on a 135 though and I really have to think and play around with my framing a lot more haha
0:42 Mitch looking at the Sony A7iii like
Superb comparison
You know what? I’ve been a 85mm kinda portrait guy for years and the more it goes and the wider I tend to try. Thanks to your videos I feel confident in going that way.
Recently I got my hands on the Nikon 58mm f/1.4 and the Tamron 35mm 1.4 is coming soon.
And it’s due to my discover of the 28mm in the Leica Q. So I progressively try wider and wider! But still love the 105 1.4 of course.
Nice work!
It’s funny I’m subscribed to both channels already and I watch the videos back to back every time lol
Thank you! We appreciate it 😄
I'm just starting with photography and I bought the 14mm and 24-70mm until I figure out where I am shooting most of the time and it turns out that I almost never use the 14mm but when I am using my 24-70, I am almost always either somewhere around 30mm or on 70mm and even find myself wanting more range, so in my conclusion, after I sell the 14mm and 24-70, I will be getting a 35mm and 85mm as my TRUE first lenses!
Most photos shot by 2 lenses from almost the small distance (3-5m far). If 85 shoot from 10-15 meters far away, the photos look great, full body with blurry background.
That was fun. I love the houses that you both chose to shoot in front of. I also enjoyed each one of your style of shooting and angles. Julia you definitely love the Sony lol. It was good seeing Mitch again.
Amazing jobs for both I just don't know which one to chose, 35mm seems more cinematic I guess in some way and it's really great cause we can see more context more environment around the subject whereas the 85mm doing an excellent job centering and isolating the subject, hard to choose... :/
I just don't get the excitement about the 35mm lens. In almost every example, I preferred the 85mm. With the 85mm, the focus is solely on the couple. It tells the right story, which is how happy they are together. The 35mm tells a story of their environment. That's great if you're in a beautiful field, or Rome, but random street? Sure, the wrought iron fences are fairly pretty, but I don't want some fat branch high up on a tree distracting from how in love this couple is. The 85mm gives you just enough background to know where they are without including someone's parked Taurus.
There’s no ‘need’ in photography - no one to tell you what you should/shouldn’t have, go out there and do what works for you and if it doesn’t work, experiment some more.
85 is an ego lens and more cinematic; 35 is more informative
You pretty much convinced me to shoot 35 and 85 and I always like the results of both.
I know this is so random - but... "scissors, paper, rock" in Australia, "rock, paper, scissors" in the US.
I just bought a a7r3 and both lens i have is a 20mm and a 85mm. The compression of an 85mm feels dreamy and smooth, kinda like an instagram vibe
35mm and 135mm for me now.
Great vid! Love my 35 1.4 I use it for street and ports quite regularly. But if I want some compression and bokeh then my 50mm 1.2. Obviously the style of 35, 50, and 85 is subjective, but ultimatley it's what works for you in those situations. If I have more space I use my 135 f2, that's a magical lens. ❤✌
Thank you and absolutely! These are personally my 2 fav lenses for portraits and wedding/couple photography 😊
The 35mm is nice and all but like the cowbell I JUST NEED MORE BOKEH!!!
Never been a 35mm fan - but you guys may have swayed me with this shoot. Beautiful work guys!
Thanks so much Julian! Actually what’s your favourite lens for portraits?
I think from 50mm starting right compression, 85mm to 135mm is reality 🤔
Did anyone else get triggered when they said scissors paper rock.... 👀 love the video though lol
I know it's very obvious but 85mm is much better when what you want to show is your subject and 35mm is better when you want to show a story
I prefer 85mm for the majority of time for this photoshoot, because it brings in more intimacy.
This is my exact setup. Samyang 35 and 85 1.4 sometimes I want a wider lens but this is a lethal combo
Nice! How are you finding the Samyang lenses? I would love to try them out soon!
Julia Trotti the lenses are great. The bokeh is a little weird, but I get great images. Hunts a little bit in extreme backlit situations but that’s every lens tbh. They’re built really nice and sleek looking,. Dust and grime does get in the focus ring tho
My anxiety was thru the roof yall swinging those cameras around without any sort of protection no straps or sleeves 😂
Don't get me wrong, my man Mitch's pretty good at what he does but when it comes to taking photos at a certain angle or even instruct clients on how to pose, there's a distinct difference between the photos that Julia had taken & the photos that Mitch had taken. & every time, you can tell that Julia just comes out on top. I'm sure that there's no competition going on here, but still. This is more of a constructive criticism for Mitch to step his game up. But yeah nah, lovely work nonetheless, you two!
Aw thanks so much! Yeah it’s definitely not a competition, just 2 different styles of shooting 😊
Thank u for saving my money...i'll never buy the 35mm
Julia uses the 85mm in a best possible way! I’m in love with the 85mm
This 2 beautiful people photographing beautiful people.
The Tamron 35 1.4 is definitely a beast!!!
Do you have it? How does it perform?
Ha! Bye guys and end. This is also my favorite combo for travel photos! How did you like shooting on the tamron 35 again compared to your zeiss or canon 35?
Great comparison Julia! Loved seeing this behind the scenes 🙂
Thanks so much and thanks for being on board with this shoot too! Hope we can do another one soon 😊
just got A7RII which one to get first? I have no lens and can only get one right now.
Perhaps the best way to go is with a 50mm 1.4? Get a little bit of the magic of each.
The 85 has always been my favorite for portaits
I love your videos! I have a question, what settings do you use for shoots with couples? I feel like I have such a hard time getting both people in focus.
Increasing the f stop should help.
These two are the Batman and Robin of lenses in terms of focal lengths. They do really complement each other.
Woah, this session kinda made me
Tear up a bit. These photos are gorgeous ❤️
Hello... How about calling yourself as guy. Give it a go for your own good.
sorry for the question but why the 35mm lens looks like a telephoto one?
Speaking of the 35, I bought the Yongnuo 35mm 1.4 and I’m impressed so far. You should review that if you can get a hold of one!
I always wondered about how good that lens would be... I really can't find a good review on it.
The "scissors paper rock" made me report the video for enforcing terrorism
Scissors paper rock instead of rock paper Scissors hmmm 🤔
wow this was when Mitch was still starting his channel right? his channel is so great now
scissors paper rock, i guess its not rock paper scissors anymore xD
Sheesh, the Aussies even invert Rock Papers Scissors!
85mm and the 50mm are my fave portrait lens, the 35 not so much , the 35 still gives a bit of distortion.
That’s why I like the 35 so much, that distortion!
i hate 85 but love 50 but agree 50 is better so solo portraits
Much easier to shoot on an 85mm than a 35mm, takes less skill.
love the look of them houses.. killer location
Thank you! I got so excited when I found this location, it reminded me of a mini San Francisco 😄
Did u say scissors paper rock???!!!!!! Woaaah
surprising i love 85 more. is that because of my computer screen a bit different to the photo? or because 35 , you need to get a bit closer?
i think if you shoot 85 and 35 on the same distance , 85 is way better.
steve wu Not very surprising. That G master 85mm is truly amazing with beautiful compression giving an overall dreamy look to the image and a 3-D pop to its subjects 👌🏻
Yeah like someone already mentioned the compression of the 85 can produce a really dreamy looking photo, whereas the 35 you can see more of the environment since it’s a wide angle thus giving it a more editorial look 😊
"Scissors, paper, rock"
*WHAT?*
And live view wastes battery power ...
85mm wins by a kilometer
I think both lenses have their merits and produce wonderful produced wonderful shots. On a differing note, my daughters name is Liliana (although it's shortened to Lili, unless she's in trouble!) and haven't heard of another Liliana before, only Lilian's, Lily's or Lilliana's (2 'L's in the middle), so that was nice.
You can't leave out the 50mm 1.8 !
Yay....thanks again Julia and Mitch! Love the the comparisons and the collaboration.
Glad you liked it!
Which Aperture where you guys using?