OK… You are going to love this. Maybe someone has said it already. Instead of chipping away at the dogbone pieces, I put it in the vice and put the torch on the metal top until it was smoking, took a long flat head screwdriver and ran it down all the sides and low and behold the bushing broke away, flipped it over did the same on the other side and bushing came away clean. Didn’t even cut it, it stretched and fell away. Took only a minute or 2 to clean it up and it was good to go. Way better than the other way. BTW Love your channel. Watch every episode, even the Mini. Keep it up! Best of luck with everything (child and house).
I asked my wife about what I thought was a U.S. Navy flag in the background, she confirmed it, she also pointed out that 757 is a Virginia area code, she was stationed at NAS Oceana years ago. ;-)
Oh man, I am going back and watching some of your videos of the stuff you did on you C5.... and it's just making me want to do some of this. I did the poly bushings on my sway bars already and that made a huge difference. Now I really want to do the poly bushings on the rest of my suspension... Well done and thank you for putting this video together.
I watch everyone's ideas on these things. I would look at the borg motorsport video. Do not put a scissor jack between your arms, if you bent them- game over. If you're going to go ultra cheap poly , make a grease zerk fitting. I'm glad you got yours done and your happy.
Scissor lift. Genius. I wasn't reusing anything so I just used stepped bits to cut the caps and then some regular bits to sink holes in the bushings before pressing out one at a time. Interestingly, delrins go in with almost zero effort. Some just by hand, others with a love tap from a rubber mallet. Probably too late for you now, but for others, Napa sells a product called aluminum brightener which works amazingly on all the control arms and knuckles if you want. It makes them look brand new again. Don't get it on other metals if you can avoid it. But water will neutralize it if you do. One thing to add to your labors here is to call Randy at DRM and get a delrin bushing for the passenger side of your rack. Loosen the passenger side, press it up, replace bushing, then use ratchet straps on the frame and rack to pull it back down into place.
Not boring at all! I had a shop do my poly bushings as I knew it would be nightmare and I didn't have the time nor patience then. I can concur, it makes a HUGE difference!
If I keep my C5 until better weather I'll be doing this. I wanted a C6 when i bought it and those prices are starting to come down again. Thank you for the great video.
Great video! I noticed the ring around your front disk where the caliper and pad do not reach the inner most 1/4” of the rotor. I put the same calipers on my stock C5, now I’m sorry I did because of that ring of rust. Do you think these calipers with a smaller pad stop as well or better than the stock C5 calipers? Just curious. I don’t notice a difference in stopping, but I hate that the caliper and pad do not cover the width of the rotor.
I've been avoiding doing this on my C5 as just like you say... it's not a motivating or enjoyable task. I also presumed that this would suck to do lacking a shop press. I'll probably get around to it this winter though, as a few thousand dollars of coilovers and huge tires on Apex wheels are all going through 23 year old rubber bushings right now... prettttty sure I'm leaving some handling improvements on the table!
I am in the same boat! 23 year old bushings at 125k miles, car feels like im running on rocks on a flat road :/ gotta knock this out. I also have a slight vibration starting at 70mph....like a light oscillation....need to just get this done.
Nice video! Bought my '02 ZO6 6 yrs ago last July w/47k, couldn't believe how tight EVERYTHING was and after 11k miles it is still as I bought it. The end links clicked turning as I park and have continued to worsen and can't wait to replace them ¿`_
I just did all mine on the project Z06. Make sure not to touch the rear shock insulators when you get there! Lol. I had a delrin kit from ECM which had a replacement... Which would have been fine except I'm on a C6 cradle with 6060/C6Z diff and running Borg Delrins now (ditched the ECM kit) and the alignment would absolutely not allow it to work. As you mentioned.... Tolerances are tight, zero deflection. I had to buy lcas off a donor car to fix it. I did the ball joints too and went with Mevotech which have zerk fittings for the uppers. Digging your bc coilovers. Im on RideTechs but looking to go Viking Berzerker on this car now. Just know... You can never go back to factory leaf springs again now.
What about alignment? Your toe setting will be changed causing tire wear. Camber/caster being off can cause a pull, and the centering of your steering wheel may be affected (stg whl sensor). Since you’ll be doing the rear then have a front and rear alignment done together afterwards for the handling strived for and max tire life.
Yeah I meant to mention that in the video, but totally slipped my mind. Although minimal, the alignment will be off. I am doing a full alignment post rear bushings.
Have you ever tracked your car? If you haven’t you should! Even just some autocross would be cool to see. I’ve been autocrossing for about two years with the occasional track day, time attack, and hillclimb event thrown in too. Such rewarding cars when you start getting close to the limit. Learning to get there is a blast too!
😂😂it’s 1:35 am in the morning & have 1 eye open .. I’m trying buddy .. always luv ❤ a VetonVettes … Video. U working the Late Shift Now ! Or couldn’t sleep … Still have that 1 EYE .. 😮😮😮😮😮😮😮
I just received my poly bushing and my instructions say to grease both inside and outside of bushing. To be far i read the rear instructions maybe the front is different. Just wondering if anyone read the same?
All movement should be the rotation on the inner sleeve. When the bushing rotates inside the outer sleeve, it will wear the bushing and create tolerance and slop in the bushing. The inner sleeves provide a smooth bearing surface for the bushing to rotate on. Long story short it keeps the integrity of bushing and protects from premature wear. Also, if you lube the outside the lube will dry up much faster and create creaking. You want no lube between the bushing and control arm. Only the inner sleeve and inner bushing. Hope this helps 🤷🏼♂️
I'll do a follow up with those concerns. So far minimal. I would never do poly bushings on a transmission/ engine etc. But I feel on suspension it's the perfect amount of feedback
It definitely was a concern of mine before doing it given the crazy tight tolerances. However, it's been 9 months and nothing.. not one squeak. I believe the key is proper lubrication. Now I'm sure at some point in the future one will make noise. I'll cross that bridge when I get there.
I want to get up with you I need some help with my C5 I seen you on the road one time but it’ll be great to have someone who knows what they doing to help guide me!
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OK… You are going to love this. Maybe someone has said it already. Instead of chipping away at the dogbone pieces, I put it in the vice and put the torch on the metal top until it was smoking, took a long flat head screwdriver and ran it down all the sides and low and behold the bushing broke away, flipped it over did the same on the other side and bushing came away clean. Didn’t even cut it, it stretched and fell away. Took only a minute or 2 to clean it up and it was good to go. Way better than the other way. BTW Love your channel. Watch every episode, even the Mini. Keep it up! Best of luck with everything (child and house).
PS - Heat on the lower bushing was a game changer and the reason I tried on the dogbones! You were the only one to suggest this. Thanks!
I asked my wife about what I thought was a U.S. Navy flag in the background, she confirmed it, she also pointed out that 757 is a Virginia area code, she was stationed at NAS Oceana years ago. ;-)
Oh man, I am going back and watching some of your videos of the stuff you did on you C5.... and it's just making me want to do some of this. I did the poly bushings on my sway bars already and that made a huge difference. Now I really want to do the poly bushings on the rest of my suspension... Well done and thank you for putting this video together.
I watch everyone's ideas on these things. I would look at the borg motorsport video. Do not put a scissor jack between your arms, if you bent them- game over. If you're going to go ultra cheap poly , make a grease zerk fitting. I'm glad you got yours done and your happy.
Bushings are on my list. I've done them on past vehicles and they made a huge difference. Looking forward to seeing you do the rears.
Scissor lift. Genius. I wasn't reusing anything so I just used stepped bits to cut the caps and then some regular bits to sink holes in the bushings before pressing out one at a time. Interestingly, delrins go in with almost zero effort. Some just by hand, others with a love tap from a rubber mallet. Probably too late for you now, but for others, Napa sells a product called aluminum brightener which works amazingly on all the control arms and knuckles if you want. It makes them look brand new again. Don't get it on other metals if you can avoid it. But water will neutralize it if you do. One thing to add to your labors here is to call Randy at DRM and get a delrin bushing for the passenger side of your rack. Loosen the passenger side, press it up, replace bushing, then use ratchet straps on the frame and rack to pull it back down into place.
I agree. I have wanted to do bushings on several cars before but didn't. This video shows how simple it really is to do this service.
I wish I'd seen the this video before I bought a press with the tool set. The scissor jack method is really clever!
Very informative ! Would love to see the rears done as well
PERFECT timing…. I GOTTA do this my 01 Z06 should handle better than it does… I second the request on filming the rears.
Awesome vid very good info 😉👍😎
Not boring at all! I had a shop do my poly bushings as I knew it would be nightmare and I didn't have the time nor patience then. I can concur, it makes a HUGE difference!
You just replace with stock type equipment?
And what all did you get done and what did it end up costing?
nice job..well done video.
Great stuff, thanks
Excellent informational video. If you end up doing the rears, it would be awesome if you could film it.
You bet 👍
If I keep my C5 until better weather I'll be doing this. I wanted a C6 when i bought it and those prices are starting to come down again. Thank you for the great video.
Exact same thing. Bought mine in Dec 2023, but if I can I'll jump on a 'rarri C6. Red with light oak interior with those 5 rays star rims are dope af.
Great video very helpful
Amazing that the cams look exactly like the rear ones on my 1963 !
No sh*t. That's crazy.
Yes do the Rear !!!!!
Great video! I noticed the ring around your front disk where the caliper and pad do not reach the inner most 1/4” of the rotor. I put the same calipers on my stock C5, now I’m sorry I did because of that ring of rust. Do you think these calipers with a smaller pad stop as well or better than the stock C5 calipers? Just curious. I don’t notice a difference in stopping, but I hate that the caliper and pad do not cover the width of the rotor.
I've been avoiding doing this on my C5 as just like you say... it's not a motivating or enjoyable task. I also presumed that this would suck to do lacking a shop press.
I'll probably get around to it this winter though, as a few thousand dollars of coilovers and huge tires on Apex wheels are all going through 23 year old rubber bushings right now... prettttty sure I'm leaving some handling improvements on the table!
I am in the same boat! 23 year old bushings at 125k miles, car feels like im running on rocks on a flat road :/ gotta knock this out. I also have a slight vibration starting at 70mph....like a light oscillation....need to just get this done.
Interesting video, did it increase harshness and nvh over bumps and whatnot?
Nice video! Bought my '02 ZO6 6 yrs ago last July w/47k, couldn't believe how tight EVERYTHING was and after 11k miles it is still as I bought it. The end links clicked turning as I park and have continued to worsen and can't wait to replace them ¿`_
I just did all mine on the project Z06. Make sure not to touch the rear shock insulators when you get there! Lol. I had a delrin kit from ECM which had a replacement... Which would have been fine except I'm on a C6 cradle with 6060/C6Z diff and running Borg Delrins now (ditched the ECM kit) and the alignment would absolutely not allow it to work. As you mentioned.... Tolerances are tight, zero deflection. I had to buy lcas off a donor car to fix it. I did the ball joints too and went with Mevotech which have zerk fittings for the uppers. Digging your bc coilovers. Im on RideTechs but looking to go Viking Berzerker on this car now. Just know... You can never go back to factory leaf springs again now.
Mine squeaks like a hookers bed…
@@One-way i went with the self lubed delrin but csn always add zerks to the bars and grease them down
Why do you not want to lubricate the outside of the bushings? Is this true for the outside of all the bushings? And thank you for the epic post!
great video, i know its older getting ready to do mine as well. did you ever get a chance to do film the rears?
I do. It's in my library a few videos after this one 👍🤙
What about alignment? Your toe setting will be changed causing tire wear. Camber/caster being off can cause a pull, and the centering of your steering wheel may be affected (stg whl sensor). Since you’ll be doing the rear then have a front and rear alignment done together afterwards for the handling strived for and max tire life.
Yeah I meant to mention that in the video, but totally slipped my mind. Although minimal, the alignment will be off. I am doing a full alignment post rear bushings.
Ya do vid on rears
Have you ever tracked your car? If you haven’t you should! Even just some autocross would be cool to see. I’ve been autocrossing for about two years with the occasional track day, time attack, and hillclimb event thrown in too. Such rewarding cars when you start getting close to the limit. Learning to get there is a blast too!
Not formally, but I'll get there!
@@VetOnVettes just do it, you won’t regret it
Well done sir.
Your Corvette will be as good as new soon. Hopefully those rear bushings will be done soon? (:
Yup! Got them last night. Starting it tonight. Hoping to have that video up by Friday
@@VetOnVettes Excited to see it dude!
@@VetOnVettes Thanks to your videos I am becoming more confident of what it will be like to own a C5 Vette.
What bushing kit did you use?
Good job on the installation. Helps out DIY guys like me.
www.ecklers.com/1997-2004-corvette-control-arm-bushing-kit-front-polyurethane-25-114440-1.html
Thank you!
Now on to the rears!
😂😂it’s 1:35 am in the morning & have 1 eye open .. I’m trying buddy .. always luv ❤ a VetonVettes … Video. U working the Late Shift Now ! Or couldn’t sleep … Still have that 1 EYE .. 😮😮😮😮😮😮😮
I just received my poly bushing and my instructions say to grease both inside and outside of bushing. To be far i read the rear instructions maybe the front is different. Just wondering if anyone read the same?
Part number for the ball joints by chance?
My c5 feels like it wants to wander a little bit. Assuming this is the fix for that?
Im fixing to do this install and I'd like to know why you recommend NOT lubing the bushings with grease prior to putting in the control arms?
All movement should be the rotation on the inner sleeve. When the bushing rotates inside the outer sleeve, it will wear the bushing and create tolerance and slop in the bushing. The inner sleeves provide a smooth bearing surface for the bushing to rotate on. Long story short it keeps the integrity of bushing and protects from premature wear. Also, if you lube the outside the lube will dry up much faster and create creaking. You want no lube between the bushing and control arm. Only the inner sleeve and inner bushing. Hope this helps 🤷🏼♂️
Anymore nvh with the poly bushings?
I'll do a follow up with those concerns. So far minimal. I would never do poly bushings on a transmission/ engine etc. But I feel on suspension it's the perfect amount of feedback
Do the rear!!!
I did. 👌👍. Videos is up on those
can you post the link you used to buy those bushings?
www.ecklers.com/1997-2004-corvette-control-arm-bushing-kit-front-polyurethane-25-114440-1.html
Does it seem to squeak more with the poly bushings?
It definitely was a concern of mine before doing it given the crazy tight tolerances. However, it's been 9 months and nothing.. not one squeak. I believe the key is proper lubrication. Now I'm sure at some point in the future one will make noise. I'll cross that bridge when I get there.
@@VetOnVettes I've found in life proper lubrication is often the key. Thanks for all the vids keep up the great work!
I want to get up with you I need some help with my C5 I seen you on the road one time but it’ll be great to have someone who knows what they doing to help guide me!
What's up man? Hit up my insta if you have any questions. Same handle as my RUclips
Bent my lower control arm doing the scissor jack method... would not recommend lol
Tyler Hoover (Hoovies Garage) called and wants his identity back...
Great videos - thanks!
Haha. I get that about once a week. 🤪
@@VetOnVettesThat is awesome. Hey on a side note, where did you get all your bushings and ball joints? I am in the process of doing this to my C5Z.
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