Please do the part when The Weeknd is clearly not acting well enough but San Levinson can’t say anything because he’s also the producer, had a lot of ego and power and they’re filming in his own house
Damn you nailed it…Sam be getting so much hate but honestly The Weeknd should be getting more since it’s his project and Sam was just helping out last min
@@souldiving4197exactly, obviously Sam did have a hand in it but I’m not sure if he wrote any dialogue or if he just purely done the directing, but yea I think of the idol as the weeknds show
@@purpleheadedhedgehog3821 well said my friend. It’s The Weeknd project. He saw how cool euphoria was and wanted a piece of that and ofc Sam will say yes, he’s one of the biggest stars on the planet rn. As much as ppl like to have euphoria or season two, it was done with skill and talent. If the idol was solely sams project without The Weeknd input it would’ve been better, possibly amazing. Not saying Sam is perfect but you get my point.
@@souldiving4197 Euphoria is good. I wouldn't call him a genius because of it, but the first season is decent. What's funny is that Sam thinks that he's a story making genius when is writing is mediocre, if not exceptionnaly bad like in most of The Idol (even in Euphoria, it's overall just mid). However what I genuinely like about what he makes is the visual. Sam can truly be a genuis when it comes to the visual quality of the story he's telling. No matter how shitty or boring the story is, if Sam Levinson works on it you just know it's going to be gorgeous and visually stimulating.
I think with him being a popstar he might’ve wanted to portray the cringiness he felt n all the evil he faced also so he needed to portray an outrageous character that would creep out n shock the audience so they might understand what some if not all popstars n ppl around have to deal with, maybe.
I feel like they're late to becoming aware about issues towards women and instead of giving women a voice they just continue to contribute to the issues and think it's a grand gesture to see that bad things happen
I would argue that they're well aware of the issues, but for their own reasons want to do what they can to fight this shift by presenting women as deserving or inviting of abuse.
nah the original director was trying to talk about that. the weeknd didn’t like that, the original project was scrapped and sam levinson was hired to make the show of abel’s (wet) dreams
the “another blonde girl agreed to be naked the whole time” is sending me 😭 sam levinson has an ovsession with big lipped blonde girls and just wants another carbon copy of sydney
My husband from across the room: “Is this confessions of a cam girl?” Me on my phone, laughing maniacally. “No, it’s the pseudo conversation from the creation of The Idol.” Him: DIES OF LAUGHTER
I just want someone to explain to me what this show is ABOUT. Like what are we suppose to be getting from this? What’s the MESSAGE? Music industry is evil? YEAH NO SHIT THANKS FOR SHOWING US
@@Mariabadeiaokay since it sounds like the other person just wanted to be mean and not help, I think they’re trying to show us the inside of what the music industry/Hollywood as a whole will do to artists. How no matter who says they’re there to help there is a hidden agenda. Like since we just think “omg my favorite singer has a normal life because she tells us this and does this and…” when I’m reality it gets really fucking dark in the industry from abuse physically to sexual to mental and so much more. I’m honestly just going off of as much as I skipped through to watch cause I couldn’t deal with a lot of scenes but that’s what I got from it.
Like they had a good plan but wrong execution honestly the show could’ve really showed us a lot inside Hollywood life behind the scenes but I think they were trying to hard to appeal to both fans of the actors and young viewers who they think like seeing sexual drugged up shows
Someone who worked in nightlife and seen some of the real behaviors of the predator men in entertainment performers and club owners promoters. I don't think this show is off at all. I bet there are alot of girls who know exactly the type of man the weekend plays. N it's disgusting but so damn real for some
The problem is why show it? You'd assume they'd use the abuse on camera to give a message but there really isn't any so it simply feels gratuitous. The difference between denouncing abuse and indulging in it feels thin then
@@QueenK88 yes but that’s subjective, some people may think it doesn’t lack depth. I like the character just wish some other dude played Tedros. Now what isn’t subjective is bad acting which was my main point.
This essay is making me think a lot about David Lynch and his female portrayals in his films. They are almost all sexually assaulted harassed or ridiculed by men. And I’m just wondering what’s he trying to say with that? Why is it necessary to portray female suffering?
I think it’s just art, doesn’t always need explanation. For example midsommer was a film about woman torturing her ex bf to death. Was a male director and he wrote the movie after his breakup, but instead of making a movie about a man torturing a woman which is what he experience in real life he decided to portray a woman torturing a man and being praised for it. So I dunno.. .it’s just art. Everyone has a dif level of imagination and depth.
@@souldiving4197You’re extremely naive to think portrayals like Midsommar are on the same level as the belittling sexualized violence against women that is constantly shown on screens. Trust me, the men who make this stuff aren’t doing it for the sake of “art.”
Listen, I love the weekends music, he's an amazing musician. I feel like in music you can put a lot of heavy topics into a 3 minute song without it feeling overwhelming thanks to most peoples focus being on the music itself not the specific wording of things...... But dear lordy when you focus on those words in a full length tv epsiode that shit is rough. Now I'm not gonna stand here and saying writing scripts is easy, I was a film major I've had to write several screenplays that will never leave that classroom if it kills me..... But hot damn he's surrounded by professionals that just never stopped him
"We'll also make the blonde girl turn out to be the manipulative girlboss the entire time, so our questionable writing choices doesnt make us come off as pervy"
these lot working together was an absolute joke, and i’m sure they still believe that the idol is such a masterpiece. they’ll probably work together again
I haven’t even heard of the Idol, have no idea what it’s about or who Sam Levinson is, and I am concerned as to how it was allowed the air if what you said is true
This is basically the idol, I'm surprised you're not getting copyright struck
Copyright struck 😂😂😂
Honestly 😭
And this is hilarious
It europhia but I guess since it’s teenagers it’s okay 😂
😂😂
Please do the part when The Weeknd is clearly not acting well enough but San Levinson can’t say anything because he’s also the producer, had a lot of ego and power and they’re filming in his own house
The idol for the weeknd is like that self published book a rich kid puts on their resume to seem more attractive to big colleges
Damn you nailed it…Sam be getting so much hate but honestly The Weeknd should be getting more since it’s his project and Sam was just helping out last min
@@souldiving4197exactly, obviously Sam did have a hand in it but I’m not sure if he wrote any dialogue or if he just purely done the directing, but yea I think of the idol as the weeknds show
@@purpleheadedhedgehog3821 well said my friend. It’s The Weeknd project. He saw how cool euphoria was and wanted a piece of that and ofc Sam will say yes, he’s one of the biggest stars on the planet rn. As much as ppl like to have euphoria or season two, it was done with skill and talent. If the idol was solely sams project without The Weeknd input it would’ve been better, possibly amazing. Not saying Sam is perfect but you get my point.
And that’s why people making a series shouldn’t be trusted to play characters in said series.
The fact that Sam Levinson think that he's a modern day genius is what makes this funnier
He is, have you see euphoria. A fool would say he isn’t a genius wether you like him or not. I think who you’re referring to is the weeknd not sam.
@@souldiving4197 Euphoria is good. I wouldn't call him a genius because of it, but the first season is decent.
What's funny is that Sam thinks that he's a story making genius when is writing is mediocre, if not exceptionnaly bad like in most of The Idol (even in Euphoria, it's overall just mid). However what I genuinely like about what he makes is the visual. Sam can truly be a genuis when it comes to the visual quality of the story he's telling. No matter how shitty or boring the story is, if Sam Levinson works on it you just know it's going to be gorgeous and visually stimulating.
@@souldiving4197euphoria is not even that good
Y’all give him too much credit ☠️
And now he has his head in the clouds
@@kazura9561Euphoria is so overrated like its a fun show but nothing out of this world and the idol is a pice of shit 🤗
@@Taylorc0de💯 exactly
Also why’d he choose his character to be one of the creepiest ever 💀 couldn’t pay me enough to even pretend to be a predator
LITERALLY ☠️
Not only creepy but also incredibly cringy. Just embarrassing overall
I think with him being a popstar he might’ve wanted to portray the cringiness he felt n all the evil he faced also so he needed to portray an outrageous character that would creep out n shock the audience so they might understand what some if not all popstars n ppl around have to deal with, maybe.
Cause that the thing, he thinks toxicity is actually sexy… but he’s so wrong 😭 smhhh
I feel like they're late to becoming aware about issues towards women and instead of giving women a voice they just continue to contribute to the issues and think it's a grand gesture to see that bad things happen
Exactly! Couple of twisted art bros who are psychologically 20 years behind the times thinking they’re making deep commentary.
I would argue that they're well aware of the issues, but for their own reasons want to do what they can to fight this shift by presenting women as deserving or inviting of abuse.
@@carolsimpson4422 valid...maybe it's kind of both?
@@carolsimpson4422 I support that hypothesis.
I’ve read somewhere that “sexual compliment & attention from a man holds no real value, because they even sexualise objects, animals, and babies.”
Those 2 mfs needa get arrested
Ik they are trying to achieve a theme of talking about manipulation in Hollywood but there is not need to sexualiza every character every second.
I’m pretty sure they weren’t actually trying to achieve that
I mean that's what Hollywood does. So it's historically accurate.
nah the original director was trying to talk about that. the weeknd didn’t like that, the original project was scrapped and sam levinson was hired to make the show of abel’s (wet) dreams
I agree.
"how much sex can we add to the show without it being considered porn" was probably the original plotline, they used the rest as a cover up💀
the “another blonde girl agreed to be naked the whole time” is sending me 😭 sam levinson has an ovsession with big lipped blonde girls and just wants another carbon copy of sydney
men will direct and produce high budget softcore instead of going to therapy
This is Gold 🥇 literal GOLD🪙
My husband from across the room: “Is this confessions of a cam girl?”
Me on my phone, laughing maniacally. “No, it’s the pseudo conversation from the creation of The Idol.”
Him: DIES OF LAUGHTER
I just want someone to explain to me what this show is ABOUT. Like what are we suppose to be getting from this? What’s the MESSAGE? Music industry is evil? YEAH NO SHIT THANKS FOR SHOWING US
Music industry? You're real lost i guess lol. This is about a new hbo series and moreso about disgusting producers.
@@a_blaze yes but producers in the music industry lol?
@@Mariabadeiaokay since it sounds like the other person just wanted to be mean and not help, I think they’re trying to show us the inside of what the music industry/Hollywood as a whole will do to artists. How no matter who says they’re there to help there is a hidden agenda. Like since we just think “omg my favorite singer has a normal life because she tells us this and does this and…” when I’m reality it gets really fucking dark in the industry from abuse physically to sexual to mental and so much more. I’m honestly just going off of as much as I skipped through to watch cause I couldn’t deal with a lot of scenes but that’s what I got from it.
Like they had a good plan but wrong execution honestly the show could’ve really showed us a lot inside Hollywood life behind the scenes but I think they were trying to hard to appeal to both fans of the actors and young viewers who they think like seeing sexual drugged up shows
@@Mulan2xthank you! And then they become they thing they were warning us about
I swear I never know what's going on in half the shorts I watch after 9 pm est. 😂 That must be my sign to go to bed.
NOT THE RAT TAIL 😭✋
😂 girl the beard
It's the "please" for me 💀
Sam and the weeknd working together was a match made in hell
i lovee thissss 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Someone who worked in nightlife and seen some of the real behaviors of the predator men in entertainment performers and club owners promoters. I don't think this show is off at all. I bet there are alot of girls who know exactly the type of man the weekend plays. N it's disgusting but so damn real for some
We don’t have an issue with the character, it’s the performance that’s the problem.
@@souldiving4197 Its the writing and lack of depth with the characters in the show!
The problem is why show it? You'd assume they'd use the abuse on camera to give a message but there really isn't any so it simply feels gratuitous. The difference between denouncing abuse and indulging in it feels thin then
@@QueenK88 yes but that’s subjective, some people may think it doesn’t lack depth. I like the character just wish some other dude played Tedros. Now what isn’t subjective is bad acting which was my main point.
@@souldiving4197 Well its way more than some but okay!
The fact that it's not even a joke, it's basically what happened is shocking and ewww
And in the end I want to make her the real villain
Why Sam Levinson and The Weeknd have not been cancelled yet, is a clear sign of the patriarchy
The weeknd is the best
this is spot on
THIS IS SOO ACCURATE LMFAO
And that's a wrap. Lunch everyone. ❤
God, that went down exactly like that
Ok but some of the og songs were slay
I meant it's what he's been singing all this time, and his fans acted like it has some kind of deep meaning to it.
Bruh thats what im saying
This essay is making me think a lot about David Lynch and his female portrayals in his films. They are almost all sexually assaulted harassed or ridiculed by men. And I’m just wondering what’s he trying to say with that? Why is it necessary to portray female suffering?
I think it’s just art, doesn’t always need explanation. For example midsommer was a film about woman torturing her ex bf to death. Was a male director and he wrote the movie after his breakup, but instead of making a movie about a man torturing a woman which is what he experience in real life he decided to portray a woman torturing a man and being praised for it. So I dunno..
.it’s just art. Everyone has a dif level of imagination and depth.
@@souldiving4197You’re extremely naive to think portrayals like Midsommar are on the same level as the belittling sexualized violence against women that is constantly shown on screens. Trust me, the men who make this stuff aren’t doing it for the sake of “art.”
I both learned what the idol is and that I never wanna watch it in the just 3 minutes
Sad how we got this instead of having to wait till 2025 for euphoria season 3
Third time watching 🤣 🤣 You’re hilarious. And scarily I accurate.
The "please" is what takes this to the next level
This so true 😭😭😭😭😭
THIS WAS THE ACTUAL PITCH MEETING 😂
I wasn’t thrilled about this production and haven’t watched it unfortunately. But commentaries like this lets me know I prioritized my time perfectly😂
Nice your the best
Honestly, the shock collar sounds for both parties
i can’t listen to the weeknd the same anymore after seeing him in dis show 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Listen, I love the weekends music, he's an amazing musician. I feel like in music you can put a lot of heavy topics into a 3 minute song without it feeling overwhelming thanks to most peoples focus being on the music itself not the specific wording of things...... But dear lordy when you focus on those words in a full length tv epsiode that shit is rough. Now I'm not gonna stand here and saying writing scripts is easy, I was a film major I've had to write several screenplays that will never leave that classroom if it kills me..... But hot damn he's surrounded by professionals that just never stopped him
Looks like Scooter Braun 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yoo 😂 this seems to be exactly what happened!
"I was gonna say the same thing!" You even included the 🍑-kissing. 😂❤
“Please”
Girl you got me subscribed 😂
the rat tail took me Tf out😭😭😭😭😭
Watched 2 episodes of that show and never went back to it
Damn 😂😂😂 I enjoyed it 😅
Still can’t believe they fired a female director for showing “too much of a female perspective”
This is exactly what Euphoria was too but everybody loved it??
The actresses carried that also it was meant for younger ppl and it had zendeya so ofc ppl will like it
Don’t forget the woman who’s a victim is “actually the villain” in the end…………. Clearly no subtle message there 🙄😒
So funny because it’s the truth. Not the convo but the plot. 😂😂
Trueeeeee
Couldn’t be any more correct 😂
THIS IS SO FUNNY PLS
I don’t know what I watched but I like it
By ppl like you is why we dont have season 2 😢
Hopefully there isn't a second season bless this person.
Thank god for that. Nobody wants a second season of this monstrosity
Hilarious 😅
This is how Florence Pughs casting went too
Lily said in her interview that she wants more nude scenes in the movie..so it's not just sam and abel.
Omg this is so funny.
“yea and she needs to be naked the whole time but also it later comes out that she’s underage”
I loved the show 🤦🏾♀️
Sure you did. It's soft p0rn after all
I didnt know hbo allowed shows to be uploaded on yt??? Why is the pilot episode here??
Shock colour do look like Apple Watches
This is so funny
Idol sends sucha negative message but still those "so called blinks" blindly support the whole series which is so wrong tbh
I really don’t think theres any meaning i think sam just tricked hbo into paying to for him to produce his own sexual fantasies
40 year old musty ass man making borderline pornography about high schoolers…just another disgusting man trying to make us desensitized to porn.
"We'll also make the blonde girl turn out to be the manipulative girlboss the entire time, so our questionable writing choices doesnt make us come off as pervy"
Superb! 😅
they should kiss
sam is just so mustyb
wow how did she post the idol without getting claimed?
BDSM Vibe with this shock collar
This was ten times more interesting than that show ever was 😂
Hey you look like ..kinda ....like the mom of the beverly halls just something 😊
are those your real eye bags for the filter???
Wow Sam and the weekend give me the creeps
Make the Apple Watch ping
these lot working together was an absolute joke, and i’m sure they still believe that the idol is such a masterpiece. they’ll probably work together again
She used a real clip and thought that we wouldn’t notice
😭😭😭😭😭
✨✨please ✨✨
Does anyone else see David Blaine Street Magic or is it just me?
LFMAOOAOA
See you euphoria was good, a little pornographic, but still had depth and tackles really hard issues. Idk wtf the idol is tackling
This is...horrifying and probably true
As a fan of the weeknd I'm tok scared to watch the idol cause I might end up dumping his Fandom
Wait, did all that actually happen?
Helpppp real
them bags under your eyes mami
Jesus loves you ❤️
I haven’t even heard of the Idol, have no idea what it’s about or who Sam Levinson is, and I am concerned as to how it was allowed the air if what you said is true
I'm sorry Abel's "acting" is sooo 😭
I was going to watch this show but now, nope. 😂😂😂😂
So glad it's discontinued
can’t look at ANYTHING but those bags on your eyes lol
And that actually sums up that greasy-ass character they've created.