@Will Paterson, Bezier curves are so powerful. Thank you for these great techniques. Nerdy trivia: placement of the stabilizer anchors is best on the inflection points of the curve, that is where the curve goes from concave upward to concave downward -- or shifts from concave leftward to concave rightward. And vice versa. And I thought Differential calculus was never going to come in handy, bwahahaha! (Inflection points occur when the second derivative of the curve becomes zero.)
I've been designing for over 10 years and I've never seen the pen tool taught in this way! Stellar Job mate! You're another channel I watch to prime my day for my work! Long time subscriber, Looking forward to the next upload!
Great video and interesting way of using the regular guides as kind of placement markers where the points should go. Haven’t thought of that way before so I find it pretty useful
Hey thank you for such a good explanation, I wonder at my side why handle for only one anchor point is showing. Like I made an anchor point using pen tool, after some distance placed another anchor point, hold and shifted to make a curve. But when using selection tool it only shows me one handles of second anchor point. Any idea? Using Adobe Illustrator 2022 thank you in advance.
@@willpatersondesign all the time. But as I draw circle and select its shows all the handles like in your video. But simple curve its only showing second anchor point's handles. I found a trick. Press shift +c and then hold option/alt key and click on anchor point and drag. It then start showing handles. May be its a bug or a feature in new Adobe. Anyways thanks for quick reply. Nice channel ❤️
I wish that smart guides would activate when positioning handles so that you could be sure that 'symmetrical' curves were the same; for example, in your opening circle illustration, it's easy enough to make sure that the opposite anchor points are lined up (as when positioning anchor points the smart guides do kick in), but the only way I've ever found (and I'd love to be proved wrong !) to make the handles line up is to draw, say, a box where you want the handles to be, and then pull the anchor points out to touch the side of that box. ??
Bezier curves are so powerful. Thank you for these great techniques. Nerdy trivia: placement of the stabilizer anchors is best on the inflection points of the curve, that is where the curve goes from concave upward to concave downward -- or shifts from concave leftward to concave rightward. And vice versa. And I thought Differential calculus was never going to come in handy, bwahahaha! (The inflection points occur when the second derivative becomes zero.)
Came here to say this! Also the extreme points correspond with the maximums/minimums of the curve (were the line changes direction from left to right or down to up for example) math ftw
Love this format! Would appreciate if you make more videos like this about different tools, menu, properties. This format is easy to digest and easy to find and access when needed (compared to a looooong video where you have to watch so much unnecessary content to find just a tiny information you're looking for)
If I'm not mistaken you made a similar video years ago. I learnt to use the pen tool this way from that video before I started my design career. It was one of the most important things I learnt when I was getting in logo design. Thanks for sharing with us ☺️
And yet the almighty Will with another tutorial! Too bad I always end up watching your videos whenever I am _not_ near my computer. The urge to put that knowledge into practice. Thanks a lot for being here for us, Will.
Super helpful and informative! I’ll definitely be implementing this technique. I can’t tell you how much I’ve struggled with wobbly lines using the pen tool.
Professor Patterson! I appreciate your ability to explain the pen tool in layman's terms. This makes sense. I have struggled often with many unnecessary node adjustments my entire career. This was TRULY a golden tip. Thank you for sharing.
I have been using the pen tool since 1988 and I have gotten really good at it. In fact I got so good that I can draw very easily draw with it. Problem is when Illustrator started to fix the pen tool it became confusing to me. So I started using the pen tool in Photoshop. Now I need to go back to Illustrator and the pen tool confuses me. Is there a way to get the pen tool to work the same in illustrator as it does now in Photoshop? Or can I just import the paths from Photoshop to illustrator?
First of all amazing tips, comes in very handy actually! About 3:33 I always wondered why you can't select two anchor points and just automatically make them equally long or extend them proportionally instead of trying to make them equal manually. Is there a trick for that too?
Love your channel. Question: in After Effects, those points are called vertices, not anchor points. I thought the anchor point was a singular point in space on a given layer defining the point from which a shape/object scales and rotates. Is this term different in Illustrator? Thank you! :)
It was just a few weeks ago that I thought I figured out the pen tool.😂 I will practice this. I usually end up with funky handles and not so smooth curves.
At school, just a few months ago, when I wanted to design a type logo and vektorize my handlettering sketch, my teacher told me I shouldn't do it because it would be too hard. This video taught me that I can really do it and it is easy. Thank You so much!!
@@pleasejustletmebeanonymous6510 I don't know, but he's kind of weird in generell. Like he always convices every student in 2nd year to use InDesign for logodesign instead of Illustrator because the exams in 3rd year could include to design like a flyer, poster or whatever - things you normally use InDesign for. He really things it's hard to learn using two programs in those 3 years, while some student (including me) learn using at least 3 to 4. Even my teacher in UX/UI thought this is bs lmao.
You're kidding, right? The whole tutorial is about placing anchor points on the extreme point of the curve, and placing handles horizontally and vertically, and finally, at the end of the video, you show an example where almost no anchor point or handle is positioned that way. Sorry Will, this is no hack at all
Would this technique be good to try and make "free hand" draws? Seems really good for Traces though. What other programs (mostly free apps/programs) would have a feature like this? I use timp to do all my stuff
clicked video thinking it would be something silly like "if you hold spacebar you can move the point" or some other less know shortcut. Was pleasently surprised. Kudos
I would agree with some of what was said, using fewer points is certainly important for getting nice smooth results, but I would disagree that one needs to align on a horizontal or vertical tangent whenever possible or that it is either "the way that vector works" or a "HACK". Sounds like a lot of folks didn't even know about aligning the anchors though, so I guess it helped those people.
Today I was thinking why Professioanls use Guides to make curves and logos in there projects now i know Cuase of you it will help ma a lot Thanks Sir I've learned a lot from you
I wish this video popped up the first time I touched the pen tool. I've been arting for like a decade now and been doing more and more vector with every year, but I'm still so clumsy and basic at it, but knowing there's optimal places to stick the little pieces MIGHT HAVE HELPED SHEESH! Thank you. :)
Very nice content. I was a tattoo artist and illustrator for 12 years now getting into some graphic design. Never understood why the app was called illustrator not photoshop design. I just use my iPad Pro and use procreate but finally giving AI a go. Very helpful
Thank you for tNice tutorials! I've been trying to figure the software out on my own for a wNice tutorialle, and it's horribly confusing. TNice tutorials is the only guide video
Love it! I knew the rule of less is more regarding anchor points and making sure lines are vertical and horizontal but I had no idea to use them with the guide lines! Now I want to create a new logo for our own brand using this technique! Unless you want to ;) I designed our logo (not a logo designer) with my partners brief he gave me as a guide. That was almost 8 years ago! PS... its on the T-shirt i'm my profile pic! So many things going on with it and definitely needs an update!
That’s the way I’ve always worked the pen tool. I had always noticed how the handles looked on circles and tried to emulate that in my drawing. I never knew how far out the handles should go a lot of times though. But this was great reassurance that I wasn’t the only one that tried to draw shapes the same way Illustrator does!
If this video helped you consider subscribing and sharing!
Did you forget you taught us this two years ago.
@@quakerninja some ppl haven’t seen it and are new here man shut up, let him create whatever he wants
@@quakerninja RUDE!
@Will Paterson, Bezier curves are so powerful. Thank you for these great techniques.
Nerdy trivia: placement of the stabilizer anchors is best on the inflection points of the curve, that is where the curve goes from concave upward to concave downward -- or shifts from concave leftward to concave rightward. And vice versa.
And I thought Differential calculus was never going to come in handy, bwahahaha! (Inflection points occur when the second derivative of the curve becomes zero.)
When using the pen tool should my line stroke be centered/inside/outside, also what stroke? This always confuses me.
I've been designing for over 10 years and I've never seen the pen tool taught in this way! Stellar Job mate! You're another channel I watch to prime my day for my work! Long time subscriber, Looking forward to the next upload!
Thank you so much :) I'm glad I can be of service :)
Me too, only it’s been more than 30 years. This is so useful. Thank you!
Word! This is going to save me alot of time. So glad I checked this out
Great video and interesting way of using the regular guides as kind of placement markers where the points should go. Haven’t thought of that way before so I find it pretty useful
Glad it was helpful!
I’ve watched this video about 4 times now to try and absorb as much info as I can :|
Love your videos and I’m very appreciative for them!
Happy to help! Hope what I said made sense!
Awesome as always Will. I have never used the pen tool this way. I mean if I have used the pen tool like this, absolutely it wasn't intentional. Lol..
And YT's algorithm is showing me this now 😑 well, better late than never. Awesome tutorial! 👏👏👏👍 Promptly subscribed.
wait but on the counter space of the "a" you had no right angles, can you explain why your rule doesn't apply here?
inspiring, thank you. ❤
Many thanks!
You're welcome!
Hey thank you for such a good explanation, I wonder at my side why handle for only one anchor point is showing. Like I made an anchor point using pen tool, after some distance placed another anchor point, hold and shifted to make a curve. But when using selection tool it only shows me one handles of second anchor point. Any idea? Using Adobe Illustrator 2022
thank you in advance.
That's odd, is it all the time or only sometimes?
@@willpatersondesign all the time. But as I draw circle and select its shows all the handles like in your video. But simple curve its only showing second anchor point's handles.
I found a trick. Press shift +c and then hold option/alt key and click on anchor point and drag. It then start showing handles. May be its a bug or a feature in new Adobe. Anyways thanks for quick reply. Nice channel ❤️
I have NEVER thought to work on the curves piece by piece like that. Definitely just improved my workflow, thanks a lot Will!!
I wish that smart guides would activate when positioning handles so that you could be sure that 'symmetrical' curves were the same; for example, in your opening circle illustration, it's easy enough to make sure that the opposite anchor points are lined up (as when positioning anchor points the smart guides do kick in), but the only way I've ever found (and I'd love to be proved wrong !) to make the handles line up is to draw, say, a box where you want the handles to be, and then pull the anchor points out to touch the side of that box. ??
Pen tool first, then smooth tool x1000, right?
hahaha
💖
Bezier curves are so powerful. Thank you for these great techniques.
Nerdy trivia: placement of the stabilizer anchors is best on the inflection points of the curve, that is where the curve goes from concave upward to concave downward -- or shifts from concave leftward to concave rightward. And vice versa.
And I thought Differential calculus was never going to come in handy, bwahahaha! (The inflection points occur when the second derivative becomes zero.)
Came here to say this! Also the extreme points correspond with the maximums/minimums of the curve (were the line changes direction from left to right or down to up for example) math ftw
Love this format!
Would appreciate if you make more videos like this about different tools, menu, properties. This format is easy to digest and easy to find and access when needed (compared to a looooong video where you have to watch so much unnecessary content to find just a tiny information you're looking for)
Thanks, Will
U always be teaching me sumpthin’
hUgz, Lee
can I ask you how long took you to master pen tool ?
Okay so I normally frown upon the "You've been using [this] wrong" type of videos but dare I say, I HAVE been using it wrong. Thanks mate.
Really helpful..!
Glad it was helpful!
Gotta be honest guys, this is the best pen tutorial in the world, holy molly man, good job xD
Pen tool is not dead :D :) awesome video in super quality :) Thanks
:D
If I'm not mistaken you made a similar video years ago. I learnt to use the pen tool this way from that video before I started my design career. It was one of the most important things I learnt when I was getting in logo design. Thanks for sharing with us ☺️
I just find that video a couple days ago! I've been practicing using it, it's such a gem.
I finally have good tips on that! My grades will get a bit higher! Yay! Thank you very much for this video ^^
need this
Great video. Welcome to my saved videos for future use folder
Thousand likes if I could, I would have given. It was huge huge help. Very much appreciate, Will.
Glad it helped!
And yet the almighty Will with another tutorial! Too bad I always end up watching your videos whenever I am _not_ near my computer. The urge to put that knowledge into practice. Thanks a lot for being here for us, Will.
Super helpful and informative! I’ll definitely be implementing this technique. I can’t tell you how much I’ve struggled with wobbly lines using the pen tool.
Professor Patterson! I appreciate your ability to explain the pen tool in layman's terms. This makes sense. I have struggled often with many unnecessary node adjustments my entire career. This was TRULY a golden tip. Thank you for sharing.
This is gold! Amazing tutorial. I will try it out. You made the tool understandable.
simply superb. Its looks hard but its actually really simple!!! Thanks for the video and sharing
I wasn’t sure what I was looking for when I searched pen tool for illustrator but this was it ! Thank you 🙌🏻
Thanks for the video, I am however lean towards curvature tool and drawing circles
And YT's algorithm is showing me this just now 😑 well, better late than never. Awesome tutorial! 👏👏👏👍 Promptly subscribed.
WILL YOU DID IT, YOU MAD MAN!
Thank you so much!
No problem! :D
Vital info, thanks!
OMG! Wish Id known this when I was in school for design; I always HATED the pen tool. Nobody explained it right!
i like, then watch after.
Noovv !! Yaar na neee ivalo naala yenga na irundha 😭 ...
Thank you Will. Nice presentation. What is this guide you pull down at 2:17? Bounding box and guides are new to this beginner.
I have been using the pen tool since 1988 and I have gotten really good at it. In fact I got so good that I can draw very easily draw with it. Problem is when Illustrator started to fix the pen tool it became confusing to me. So I started using the pen tool in Photoshop. Now I need to go back to Illustrator and the pen tool confuses me. Is there a way to get the pen tool to work the same in illustrator as it does now in Photoshop? Or can I just import the paths from Photoshop to illustrator?
First of all amazing tips, comes in very handy actually!
About 3:33
I always wondered why you can't select two anchor points and just automatically make them equally long or extend them proportionally instead of trying to make them equal manually.
Is there a trick for that too?
😍🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯 omg sir ❤️
Then watch other producer how they make their s, then try to use soft again by yourself. If you've repeat the steps before, co back
Love love love this video. Very helpful! I saw the short as well, but this more in-depth explanation is even better. Thank you for sharing!
Glad it was helpful!
bro, can you make full video about creating unique font using pentool... we love to see how you use pen tool hack effectively ..
Love your channel. Question: in After Effects, those points are called vertices, not anchor points. I thought the anchor point was a singular point in space on a given layer defining the point from which a shape/object scales and rotates. Is this term different in Illustrator? Thank you! :)
2nd
yah. somethings always off.. Thanks. Now weird shape gone!
and my friends are planning to make a ga and i'm making the soft, so tNice tutorials really helped
The best Adobe Illustrator instructor! Best!
I started making soft recently, I was wondering if you wanna do any features.
you used this rule only to first letter of whole logo, the rest of letters are just normal curves without that gold rule xDDD
You just saved my life as an intern, thank you!
amazing never thought of this !
I wounder how you can make the anchor point in your AI change color and size
It was just a few weeks ago that I thought I figured out the pen tool.😂 I will practice this. I usually end up with funky handles and not so smooth curves.
Some of us use Photoshop so it would be nice if sometimes you also show how it would work on photoshop too
Hands down the most useful video on the subject!
At school, just a few months ago, when I wanted to design a type logo and vektorize my handlettering sketch, my teacher told me I shouldn't do it because it would be too hard. This video taught me that I can really do it and it is easy. Thank You so much!!
You're welcome! So glad it's helped :D
@@pleasejustletmebeanonymous6510 I don't know, but he's kind of weird in generell. Like he always convices every student in 2nd year to use InDesign for logodesign instead of Illustrator because the exams in 3rd year could include to design like a flyer, poster or whatever - things you normally use InDesign for. He really things it's hard to learn using two programs in those 3 years, while some student (including me) learn using at least 3 to 4. Even my teacher in UX/UI thought this is bs lmao.
Brain.exe Has Stopped Working
You're kidding, right? The whole tutorial is about placing anchor points on the extreme point of the curve, and placing handles horizontally and vertically, and finally, at the end of the video, you show an example where almost no anchor point or handle is positioned that way. Sorry Will, this is no hack at all
Is this just for Figma?
No, it was AI in the video but the method can be applied to any bezier tool
could we do the same thing in vectornator?
How i can get 1st order on fiver please guide me
Subbed after coming to this video via the pen tip short. LEGENDARY!
Welcome!
Thanks, I've been struggling with the pen tool - this was extremely helpful!
You're welcome!
Thank you for the awesome trick 👏
Out of every other videos on RUclips only yours
Would this technique be good to try and make "free hand" draws? Seems really good for Traces though.
What other programs (mostly free apps/programs) would have a feature like this? I use timp to do all my stuff
this video helped a hell of lot !!!!!!!! subscribed and thumbs up bro! Thanks
Awesome, thank you!
TNice tutorials was easy to follow.
clicked video thinking it would be something silly like "if you hold spacebar you can move the point" or some other less know shortcut. Was pleasently surprised. Kudos
Oh my god. Can you do this is Photoshop?
Been using illustrator since 1991 and never sees to amaze me how many tricks this program has, if you now how to use it. Respect my friend!
sir can u give some project file
Finally thank you very much
I've been teaching this method for years. (The clockwork method.) Hands down the best way to teach the pen tool to beginners.
I would agree with some of what was said, using fewer points is certainly important for getting nice smooth results, but I would disagree that one needs to align on a horizontal or vertical tangent whenever possible or that it is either "the way that vector works" or a "HACK". Sounds like a lot of folks didn't even know about aligning the anchors though, so I guess it helped those people.
Wow, i have looked around for tutorials on the pen tool and this was absolutely the best one!
Glad it was helpful!
Today I was thinking why Professioanls use Guides to make curves and logos in there projects now i know Cuase of you it will help ma a lot Thanks Sir I've learned a lot from you
I wish this video popped up the first time I touched the pen tool. I've been arting for like a decade now and been doing more and more vector with every year, but I'm still so clumsy and basic at it, but knowing there's optimal places to stick the little pieces MIGHT HAVE HELPED SHEESH!
Thank you. :)
Loved it,made it so much easier
Very nice content. I was a tattoo artist and illustrator for 12 years now getting into some graphic design. Never understood why the app was called illustrator not photoshop design. I just use my iPad Pro and use procreate but finally giving AI a go. Very helpful
Thank you for tNice tutorials! I've been trying to figure the software out on my own for a wNice tutorialle, and it's horribly confusing. TNice tutorials is the only guide video
WHY TALK A LOT !! IT IS VERY BAD.
Its eight in the morning and i need to get this very curvy logo done asap. And this just saved my noob butt. Thank you sir.
Love it! I knew the rule of less is more regarding anchor points and making sure lines are vertical and horizontal but I had no idea to use them with the guide lines! Now I want to create a new logo for our own brand using this technique! Unless you want to ;) I designed our logo (not a logo designer) with my partners brief he gave me as a guide. That was almost 8 years ago! PS... its on the T-shirt i'm my profile pic! So many things going on with it and definitely needs an update!
veri good
This is incredible stuff! Subscribing because I've never seen a technique communicated and presented so clearly
change it to Analog app 1 TE
This is a game changer for me. My lines have improved greatly just by doing this. Thanks for this!
Thank you Will. As always so helpful and informative. Now Im a tiny bit less scared of the pen tool lmfao
Happy to help! :D
Amazing explanation
hundreds of pen tool tutorials and you have nailed it! Newbie here and thanks for the guides!
The endpoints you are referring to are called the extrema. The far extremes where the anchor point lies in balance. It’s a mathematical term.
That’s the way I’ve always worked the pen tool. I had always noticed how the handles looked on circles and tried to emulate that in my drawing. I never knew how far out the handles should go a lot of times though. But this was great reassurance that I wasn’t the only one that tried to draw shapes the same way Illustrator does!
Finally, a content creator who showcases fundamentally sound practices over cheap hacks and destructive edits.
Thank you buddy 😊