I have that same Samurai "clone" and put it together with Aliexpress parts. Oddly enough I even bought that same dial for it as well. It was fun and yes, it says "Seiko" on the dial (It is an NH35 I guess) but I'd never try and pass it off as a real Samurai. I'd really never want to part with it at all. It's the first watch I ever put together. Good video. I'm a real "casual" when it comes to watches and so I tend to pay too much for the relative security of buying retail to make sure when I set out to buy a real one I get a real one. So far so good it seems but now you have me wondering "Would I even know?"
Always check a luminous circle inside a reverse triangle on the Basel, above 12 o'clock - first! Usually, in fake models, the circle will lack a clearly visible/well define silver-colored ring around its circumference and will be too small. It is more like a dot than a nicely defined ringed circle, occupying a much larger portion within the triangle, easily noticeable in the original models. You can notice that immediately in that side-by-side comparison presented here in the video. The dot is of the right size but lacks that well-defined circumventing ring.
@@divewatchdude Exactly...Btw; can You verify the luminosity of that "dot". Is it at the same level/intensity as those inside the dial ring, covered by the cristal? Also (worth noticing)...that detail (missing ring) is usually hard to spot right away since it is quite tiny in reality. Here you are showing the enlarged image, but in real life situation - so easy to miss/slide by unnoticed.
Check Watch Details and compare to original watch Fotos on Seiko Homepage. Refer to key falsification giveaways, eg printing on watch face, fonts and sizes. To avoid scam best to buy from AD even if slightly higher price, but no risk no fun 😁
Thank you for the video, I just checked mine to be sure as I purchased off a popular site for new and used watches. Is it safe to assume this was sold with no tag and original Seiko box with docs?
That is so upsetting ! Lazada has lots of fake watches that are so convincing. The seller's rating doesn't matter they are mostly fakes. I have purchased a couple of watches from them in Malaysia and I always asks for closeup pictures of it prior to order. It worked for me so far( I believe)! May I know from which seller you purchased?
I know real local shop that also has online store, the shop itself is family business for I believe since 1960s so if something didn't right I know where to go.
This is sad. Fortunately for me, I bought a used complete in the box hulk at 360$. And few days after bought 2 seiko (1 Antarctica monster penguin and another sumo hulk. With stickers and covers but with missing boxes and papers. I bought it from a wife of someone 😂. Both the Generation 3 upgraded version with lune pip on 3 o clock. Since I had an original one to compare with, I bought it. Bought both of them at about same price so basically. 199$ for the hulk. I can’t see any difference on them side by side only the scratches on the one I bought first. I wanted to sell them but my mind says not to and was rethinking of modding it to look like the SPB247 OR root beer or the black sumo or the blumo but because it is in Prestine condition I couldn’t do it yet maybe I will do it on the one with the whole set I bought. I almost traded it to a brew retro chronograph. It is just a lovely seiko piece and doesn’t look huge or feel huge on a small wrist. The straps are perfect for its size personally its my dress watch or my go to on occasions.
I order seiko’s directly from Japan ( usually in an auction on yahoo auctions ) to avoid these unpleasant surprises and because I want made in Japan on the dial or the case
It’s not the same believe me. When they are new they LOOK almost like original , BUT the specimen I have for example has developed humidity in the case and crystal has become clouded. Worst thing is knowing it is fake when it’s on the wrist.. you cannot unknow and you cannot unsee the telltale signs that reveal its fakeness
Unfortunately there are people out there who will not sell as mod but instead will try to max their profit by making a false claim and disappearing after sale..
@@Ge0rGi.The good thing between Seiko and others it's the movement , when automatic it's always a original Seiko movement , sometimes even better than original
@@divewatchdude Yeah, I received it today. The dials (hands, hour markers, and camel marks on the top triangle are as expected) seem legit, and the weight is 188g, which matches what other websites mention. The size measurements are accurate too. But something feels off. The black box it came in looks suspicious-almost like a fake, judging by the details. It even seems old, like a replica box or something. It came with a certificate card (handwritten Serial No. and Case No., along with a seller stamp but no purchase date or other details). After checking, I found out the watch is out of warranty since 2023, as it was produced in April 2020. The manual also looks sketchy, lmao. On top of that, the watch itself appears used, with noticeable scratches on the bezel. #smh It feels like they’re selling a used watch at full price. 😭😭😭😭
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I have that same Samurai "clone" and put it together with Aliexpress parts. Oddly enough I even bought that same dial for it as well. It was fun and yes, it says "Seiko" on the dial (It is an NH35 I guess) but I'd never try and pass it off as a real Samurai. I'd really never want to part with it at all. It's the first watch I ever put together. Good video. I'm a real "casual" when it comes to watches and so I tend to pay too much for the relative security of buying retail to make sure when I set out to buy a real one I get a real one. So far so good it seems but now you have me wondering "Would I even know?"
E28 Forever is absolutely right. I got Samurai's on the brain for some reason!
Always check a luminous circle inside a reverse triangle on the Basel, above 12 o'clock - first! Usually, in fake models, the circle will lack a clearly visible/well define silver-colored ring around its circumference and will be too small. It is more like a dot than a nicely defined ringed circle, occupying a much larger portion within the triangle, easily noticeable in the original models. You can notice that immediately in that side-by-side comparison presented here in the video. The dot is of the right size but lacks that well-defined circumventing ring.
Good point. I can only confirm what you are stating. The lume pip seems very difficult to get right for the pirates 👌
@@divewatchdude Exactly...Btw; can You verify the luminosity of that "dot". Is it at the same level/intensity as those inside the dial ring, covered by the cristal?
Also (worth noticing)...that detail (missing ring) is usually hard to spot right away since it is quite tiny in reality. Here you are showing the enlarged image, but in real life situation - so easy to miss/slide by unnoticed.
So what’s the takeaway? What’s the way to find out if it’s legit? I just bought recently from watch depot Australia
Check Watch Details and compare to original watch Fotos on Seiko Homepage. Refer to key falsification giveaways, eg printing on watch face, fonts and sizes. To avoid scam best to buy from AD even if slightly higher price, but no risk no fun 😁
Ask for warranty card even it is old and trace the serial no against the warranty card.
Thank you for the video, I just checked mine to be sure as I purchased off a popular site for new and used watches. Is it safe to assume this was sold with no tag and original Seiko box with docs?
Came with box and some documentation which is why I didn’t suspect foul play immediately. Of course the box and docs are fake too…
That is so upsetting ! Lazada has lots of fake watches that are so convincing. The seller's rating doesn't matter they are mostly fakes. I have purchased a couple of watches from them in Malaysia and I always asks for closeup pictures of it prior to order. It worked for me so far( I believe)! May I know from which seller you purchased?
Seller already closed shop and no longer listed
@@divewatchdude very sad
How to avoid a fake Seiko, go to your local Seiko dealer instead of the internet.
Problem solved.
Simplest solutions are usually the best 👍
I know real local shop that also has online store, the shop itself is family business for I believe since 1960s so if something didn't right I know where to go.
You can still buy online, it's on the seiko website.
This is sad. Fortunately for me, I bought a used complete in the box hulk at 360$. And few days after bought 2 seiko (1 Antarctica monster penguin and another sumo hulk. With stickers and covers but with missing boxes and papers. I bought it from a wife of someone 😂. Both the Generation 3 upgraded version with lune pip on 3 o clock. Since I had an original one to compare with, I bought it. Bought both of them at about same price so basically. 199$ for the hulk. I can’t see any difference on them side by side only the scratches on the one I bought first. I wanted to sell them but my mind says not to and was rethinking of modding it to look like the SPB247 OR root beer or the black sumo or the blumo but because it is in Prestine condition I couldn’t do it yet maybe I will do it on the one with the whole set I bought. I almost traded it to a brew retro chronograph. It is just a lovely seiko piece and doesn’t look huge or feel huge on a small wrist. The straps are perfect for its size personally its my dress watch or my go to on occasions.
I order seiko’s directly from Japan ( usually in an auction on yahoo auctions ) to avoid these unpleasant surprises and because I want made in Japan on the dial or the case
""Feiko" aligns better then the real one at 4:44
Damn…watching this whilst wearing my authentic Gen 3 Sumo with the Black dial 😅
Its the same as original at the end and you pay only 100chf with a seiko movement
It’s not the same believe me. When they are new they LOOK almost like original , BUT the specimen I have for example has developed humidity in the case and crystal has become clouded. Worst thing is knowing it is fake when it’s on the wrist.. you cannot unknow and you cannot unsee the telltale signs that reveal its fakeness
What is the name of the vendor
Bought on Lazada online platform
@@divewatchdudewhat specific store? Planning to buy from lazada
Store already vanished..but new ones pop up … price was very low and seller didn’t have many reviews..using original pictures
You paid 1000$?
No, I paid 60% of list price.. under 500$
Temu, DH Gate...Ali Express? if so you should know better
I know better now 👍
That’s why I don’t buy watches online
Smart move..
Japan select google it
No, you can still buy directly on the seiko website.
When you sell as a mod people will know what they buy...
Unfortunately there are people out there who will not sell as mod but instead will try to max their profit by making a false claim and disappearing after sale..
@@divewatchdude the positive side is the price , the movement and the design.
You could have something unique for 100$/200$
I cannot believe they even fake Seiko instead of developing their own brands.
This makes sense, it’s not a cheap watch.
What is more baffling is that even the cheapest Casio watches are being copied.
What the heck are you talking about man? I used to see fake seiko watches since the 90’s ,my father got a few
@@Ge0rGi.The good thing between Seiko and others it's the movement , when automatic it's always a original Seiko movement , sometimes even better than original
@@renatopereira1121 there was never an original seiko movement in any of the fakes,my father used to take them to a friend whom was an watchmaker
Count the times this guy says uhh..literally after every sentence
Uhh… thanks for the uhh.. feedback.. uhh.. will work on uhh.. it 👍😝
Fake face looks better than original
It is well done, but once you know it’s not legitimate it looses all its appeal
@@divewatchdude YT banns all comments even with name of chinese stores. So you can find it now with name "munger watch", ~100USD
Watch link?
No link mate.. scammer created a pop up store and disappeared accordingly 😁
If you still have it, id like to buy it. Im guessing you purchased it from a seller who does modding.
shyt i just ordered Sumo 3rd gen online from china, it’s not coming yet 🤦🏻♂️ hope i got real one 😅
😱 Keep us updated
@@divewatchdude Yeah, I received it today. The dials (hands, hour markers, and camel marks on the top triangle are as expected) seem legit, and the weight is 188g, which matches what other websites mention. The size measurements are accurate too.
But something feels off. The black box it came in looks suspicious-almost like a fake, judging by the details. It even seems old, like a replica box or something. It came with a certificate card (handwritten Serial No. and Case No., along with a seller stamp but no purchase date or other details).
After checking, I found out the watch is out of warranty since 2023, as it was produced in April 2020.
The manual also looks sketchy, lmao. On top of that, the watch itself appears used, with noticeable scratches on the bezel. #smh It feels like they’re selling a used watch at full price.
😭😭😭😭
Guaranteed fake China