13:57 Learning about sin-eaters was a very interesting tangent. It made me wonder, was there ever a sort of sin crypto scam where a succession of sin-eaters ate the same accumulating sin debt, hoping not to be the one holding the bag in the end?
Maybe I’m missing the forest for the trees, but I watched your video all the way through waiting for you to talk about a crucified Marika and the crucifixed people throughout the lands between and it never came! What gives? Here’s my inclusion to this, because I do see a very clear (if radically altered) Christian iconography in Elden Ring. Marika is locked into a crucifix pose, hung upon the golden order, a red lance piercing her abdomen (or womb). Every statue shows her in that pose, and every night the bodies affixed to similar crucifixes come alive and wail and moan. This means that Marika, as well, is still alive, perhaps affixed and moaning, wailing. But why? That’s what I’m still trying to find out.
I don't mention the crucifixions directly in this video because it's fairly obvious. Like, obvious enough that I do not really feel the need to point it out. But i suppose it is good to state explicitly for someone. That said, the symbolism doesn't mean that the story of the resurrection is going to be repeated in Elden Ring's lore. Well this is spoilers, but it's pretty clear that she is dead now. Radagon is Marika. Marika shifted to radagon for the final boss fight. We killed them, and then the Elden Beast turned them into the relic sword. A "relic" is a word sometimes used to refer to piece of a body that remains of a deceased person.
@@SocraTetris But is she dead? She is Marika the Eternal, and you can mend the Elden Ring by putting her head back on her body, whereupon the Elden Ring blossoms in her belly. But that’s again missing the point-the symbol of Marika as a crucified woman ought to be the MOST important topic for a Christian take on ER, not an afterthought. Like, you talk at great length about Augustine but don’t include the heresies of the early church where some gnostics believed Jesus was not made of human flesh or even got a surrogate to mount the cross because he couldn’t be killed (as a god). The whole story of Elden Ring hinges upon why Marika tried to shatter the Elden Ring, so why she is now deified for that rebellion is intensely important. Is she a sanctified Eve? Is she a mirror Mary, a pure womb sacrificed to make way for her son? So yes, I’m pointing out the obvious. Much like how someone who, upon entering a church and seeing this big guy nailed to a cross at the end of the room, and windows of this guy doing a bunch of things in stations, and images of this guy being held up by his mom, might come to the conclusion that this guy might be important to the faith of the people who built the church. He might even be worth discussing for a while, don’t you think?
I think now you are referencing very specific things that are not a part of Elden Ring's lore or worldbuilding. Any thread of connection does noy make it an important or central thread. I have a separate video on the gnostic influence from the gnostic perspective. And yes, I chose an aspect to focus on that I felt was most important to knowing what The Golden Order actually was. The video is finite. But you should do a never ending livestreams for every possible connection an given person might think of that they want you to talk about. If you want more flesh-is-wood stuff, I have an even earlier video before this series talking about how flesh and plants are the same thing in this lore for the tarnished and the demigods. But this wasnt an important part for how Elden Ring used gnosticism in my opinion. There were more interesting things to talk about. thr Headless scene with Marika is an artistic reference to cephalaphore statues. where saints hold their head because they died martyrs for christianity. yknow, like they died for their beliefs. cuz they are dead. like marika, who is very very dead. So let's just answer some of those questions? Why was Marika deified? > because she was already in charge. it's politics. Is she dead? > yes, we killed her. "Marika the Eternal" is a title. there are lots of titles in ER. "Starscourge Radahn" but the stars arent angry at him. It's a title. Like the Japanese practice of yelling "Banzai!" They don't actually think the person/emperor is going to be alive for 10,000 years. It's not literal, but descriptive and well-wishing. Marika is not eve, mary, or jesus. Marika's imagery is inspired by the crucifix. Marika's name is literally a pun on "America," and my first video in this series was about how her war of expansion and discrimination against giants/demihumans/albinaurics etc was inspired by American expansionism and the Monroe Doctrine.
I hid a reference to a different soulslike in the thumbnail! Can you guess that game?
No I can't guess the game, but it's about the dress right???
Not the dress, but your close. hotter than cold.
Must be the sword in her abdomen but I cant remember what it was or which game it belong to
Its the sword of blasphemous I think
as a christian, this was great to watch. Elden ring is such a deep game
glad you enjoyed it: :)
Love your philosophical content, please keep up the amazing work!
absolutely will 👍🏾
Great video. I've been waiting for a Christian analysis of Elden Ring. Keep up the great work!
Glad you liked it, tadkoz!
13:57 Learning about sin-eaters was a very interesting tangent. It made me wonder, was there ever a sort of sin crypto scam where a succession of sin-eaters ate the same accumulating sin debt, hoping not to be the one holding the bag in the end?
lol. No idea. But a "Greater Sin-Eater Scam" sounds way more metal than a "Greater Fool Scam"
Maybe I’m missing the forest for the trees, but I watched your video all the way through waiting for you to talk about a crucified Marika and the crucifixed people throughout the lands between and it never came! What gives?
Here’s my inclusion to this, because I do see a very clear (if radically altered) Christian iconography in Elden Ring. Marika is locked into a crucifix pose, hung upon the golden order, a red lance piercing her abdomen (or womb). Every statue shows her in that pose, and every night the bodies affixed to similar crucifixes come alive and wail and moan. This means that Marika, as well, is still alive, perhaps affixed and moaning, wailing. But why? That’s what I’m still trying to find out.
I don't mention the crucifixions directly in this video because it's fairly obvious. Like, obvious enough that I do not really feel the need to point it out. But i suppose it is good to state explicitly for someone. That said, the symbolism doesn't mean that the story of the resurrection is going to be repeated in Elden Ring's lore. Well this is spoilers, but it's pretty clear that she is dead now. Radagon is Marika. Marika shifted to radagon for the final boss fight. We killed them, and then the Elden Beast turned them into the relic sword. A "relic" is a word sometimes used to refer to piece of a body that remains of a deceased person.
@@SocraTetris But is she dead? She is Marika the Eternal, and you can mend the Elden Ring by putting her head back on her body, whereupon the Elden Ring blossoms in her belly.
But that’s again missing the point-the symbol of Marika as a crucified woman ought to be the MOST important topic for a Christian take on ER, not an afterthought. Like, you talk at great length about Augustine but don’t include the heresies of the early church where some gnostics believed Jesus was not made of human flesh or even got a surrogate to mount the cross because he couldn’t be killed (as a god). The whole story of Elden Ring hinges upon why Marika tried to shatter the Elden Ring, so why she is now deified for that rebellion is intensely important. Is she a sanctified Eve? Is she a mirror Mary, a pure womb sacrificed to make way for her son?
So yes, I’m pointing out the obvious. Much like how someone who, upon entering a church and seeing this big guy nailed to a cross at the end of the room, and windows of this guy doing a bunch of things in stations, and images of this guy being held up by his mom, might come to the conclusion that this guy might be important to the faith of the people who built the church. He might even be worth discussing for a while, don’t you think?
I think now you are referencing very specific things that are not a part of Elden Ring's lore or worldbuilding. Any thread of connection does noy make it an important or central thread. I have a separate video on the gnostic influence from the gnostic perspective. And yes, I chose an aspect to focus on that I felt was most important to knowing what The Golden Order actually was. The video is finite. But you should do a never ending livestreams for every possible connection an given person might think of that they want you to talk about.
If you want more flesh-is-wood stuff, I have an even earlier video before this series talking about how flesh and plants are the same thing in this lore for the tarnished and the demigods. But this wasnt an important part for how Elden Ring used gnosticism in my opinion. There were more interesting things to talk about.
thr Headless scene with Marika is an artistic reference to cephalaphore statues. where saints hold their head because they died martyrs for christianity. yknow, like they died for their beliefs. cuz they are dead. like marika, who is very very dead.
So let's just answer some of those questions? Why was Marika deified? > because she was already in charge. it's politics.
Is she dead? > yes, we killed her. "Marika the Eternal" is a title. there are lots of titles in ER. "Starscourge Radahn" but the stars arent angry at him. It's a title. Like the Japanese practice of yelling "Banzai!" They don't actually think the person/emperor is going to be alive for 10,000 years. It's not literal, but descriptive and well-wishing.
Marika is not eve, mary, or jesus. Marika's imagery is inspired by the crucifix. Marika's name is literally a pun on "America," and my first video in this series was about how her war of expansion and discrimination against giants/demihumans/albinaurics etc was inspired by American expansionism and the Monroe Doctrine.
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