too true! you guys get access to the best in the industry and get them to share some super in depth answers with the world. can't thank you all enough for the amount of effort that's put in to this channel.
You can thank Andre and Zac, I'm just the comments guy, but cheers! haha Knowing the limitations of techniques and products just helps you better avoid the pitfalls. You don't necessarily have to change what you are doing with your wiring if it is working for you (depending what the application is to a point as well) but we can say with confidence where we don't use it and why in professional motorsports looms 😎 There are some great resources on the forum for tools and material if you're on the hunt for some crimping gear though: www.hpacademy.com/forum - Taz.
Man, I read the aerospace advice on soldering wire joints. They go so deep into stranded connections and crimps that it makes you wonder where the solder section is. It isn't. Aeromotive literature I've seen always specifies no solder unless on circuitboard. Die to vibrations. Im thinking the gentleman here read what I read. Im actually relieved, no joke. Nobody believes me on this one hahaha
I couldn't wrap my head around a crimp being better OR more reliable than a soldered joint. Then I looked at the crimp on the website... I realized you aren't talking about the Wal-Mart crimp connectors I was thinking about. I've never seen a crimp like this. Changed my mind.
Yes there is quite a big jump from those to decent crimp terminals and tools in quality, and even then before you get to the professional level materials there is a solid middle ground. Really happy the video helped you discover something new and cheers for the comment :) - Taz.
Awesome video full of helpful info. You do the best interviews in the car world hands down. i feel like you surprise some of these guys with your overall knowledge .(: Keep it up.
He knows everything about everything. .... Not only automobiles. EVERYTHING! !! It's been said that Andre has forgotten more than everyone in the world knows......
Here at HPA we have our own wiring guru called Zac as well (must be a name thing) and he does free introduction lessons, woo! Join in on the next one by signing up here: www.hpacademy.com/introduction-to-wiring/ - Taz.
We can only do so much with these videos, but we do have free lessons, a suite of wiring courses and resources on our forum as well if you're serious about your learning :) - Taz. www.hpacademy.com/introduction-to-wiring/ www.hpacademy.com/forum
No worries, it's just the lesson that's free, the course are paid content just to be clear, but the lesson is awesome and well worth the watch even just for the Q&A at the end :) - Taz.
Ive been responsible for the electronics on our FSAE car and i wish i could go back and re-do so much of it with alot of the things these guys are saying :(
That's not a bad thing! Everyone is always learning and knowing you can do something better that you thought was mint at the time is a sign that you're progressing Oscar. Nobody starts knowing everything, it takes time :) - Taz.
The suppliers tell you not to do this. Whatever works for you, but you won't find us soldering connectors unless we switch from performance vehicles/race cars to tractors, and even then we'd probably still crimp ;) - Taz. Crimping "preferred method for high-performance applications": www.milnec.com/mil-spec-connector-learning-center/mil-spec-crimping-instructions/ Soldering "general-duty and industrial applications": www.milnec.com/mil-spec-connector-learning-center/how-to-solder-mil-spec-connectors/
You only have to check the Military to see how their radio equipment wiring is made. Not cheap though! At least here in Aus the only failures I saw was due to neglect either having it squashed under heavy loads, worn on sharp steel/alloy or pulled so hard while attached that it had no choice but to tear itself to bits!
What about circular mil-spec connectors. Those are a really great choice to use and is a lot cheaper then Autosport connectors. Why don't you'll talk about mil-spec connectors.
What specific military specification/standard of connector are you referring to? 'Milspec' is a term that covers the wiring tractors through to missiles, it's not specific to anything. Autosport on the other hand is a line of connectors made from the same parts bins that are specific to motorsport. They are generally lighter and have a higher pin count - Taz.
I get that he is a teacher and everything, but he is sometimes putting words in his mouth. Corner him to say his opinion and if he disagrees the debate can be held, and anyway i am sure he will not as they all follow similar standards. Thats what i learnt taking interviews for my college research.
Calling Deutsch DT/DTM connectors cheap is quite funny. In professional world of harness manufacturing, they are quite expensive, so in mass production, they are often substituted for various generations of cheap but reliable AMP Power Timers.
Nonsense i know people that only do electrical work and they use both soldering and crimping really makes no difference. Because what are the differences? ! You are just sending a signal or current through the copper wiring
What you guys are saying makes no sense when it comes to the whole connection and solder why do you think vehicles from the 70s 80s and 90s have wiring harness problems they didn't solder the wire to the connector overtime water or moisture got in between cause it to corrode and rust causing wiring harness problem the proper way of doing it is to crimp The Wire then solder then put a lair heat shrink around it it'll be water tie and make proper connection no matter what
I have an RX7 that had a wiring harness problem a wire fried due to inproper connection at a y splitter I went through replace the wire soldered it went through the whole wiring harness resoldering every splicer and connector from Factory all my wiring harness problems went away afterwards I got proper voltage to my fuel pump proper voltage to my coil packs and everything else so you can't tell me soldering wires is bad you have to crimp it then solder it to make proper connection all the way around
That is an insulation failure, not a crimp or solder failure and no you should NOT crimp and solder on a professional motorsports loom. What you do at home is up to you but if you are sending work out the door that is crimped and soldered then you should spend a bit of time educating yourself on why that is neither professional or the correct way to do things - Taz. Here is a post on this exact topic: instagram.com/p/BlY4I3EHITd/?taken-by=hpa101
@@deatherageperformance8367 I'll do that with large 0-AWG type sound system stuff but I think they're right about crimp instead of solder on sensor wire. I think he must be combining the wires before crimping but I still have to check his work out.
@@hpa101why on older vehicles do they have the similar problem all recurring around the same problem poor connection by just being crimp not soldered you expecting a race car application it to be crimp solder and heat shrink that way for durability and long term used
@@gammalight1312 I personally don't think his waist the proper way just cuz I work on older vehicles and I see the problems when it comes to electrical harness issues moisture and corrosion can get in anywhere and Destroy anything especially for wiring harness connections at least by putting a dab of solder along with the crimp will help block moisture out of it and keep a proper connection and if you really want to be OCD about it at put heat shrink
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It's super impressive how much knowledge is shared on this channel.
love your work guys! simply not many people doing automotive interviews that have your level of technical knowledge!
Thank you! Yes Andre knows his stuff and we're lucky to have experts like Zac willing to give us their precious time as well 🤘- Taz.
too true! you guys get access to the best in the industry and get them to share some super in depth answers with the world. can't thank you all enough for the amount of effort that's put in to this channel.
I only solder because I've had and seen lots of crimping failure, I guess that'll change now. I guess I'll revisit my crimping techniques. Ty Taz
You can thank Andre and Zac, I'm just the comments guy, but cheers! haha
Knowing the limitations of techniques and products just helps you better avoid the pitfalls. You don't necessarily have to change what you are doing with your wiring if it is working for you (depending what the application is to a point as well) but we can say with confidence where we don't use it and why in professional motorsports looms 😎
There are some great resources on the forum for tools and material if you're on the hunt for some crimping gear though: www.hpacademy.com/forum - Taz.
Ty Andre & Zac
@@gammalight1312 chances are its the tools your using.
@@blindabinda1234 totally.
Man, I read the aerospace advice on soldering wire joints. They go so deep into stranded connections and crimps that it makes you wonder where the solder section is. It isn't. Aeromotive literature I've seen always specifies no solder unless on circuitboard. Die to vibrations. Im thinking the gentleman here read what I read. Im actually relieved, no joke. Nobody believes me on this one hahaha
I couldn't wrap my head around a crimp being better OR more reliable than a soldered joint. Then I looked at the crimp on the website... I realized you aren't talking about the Wal-Mart crimp connectors I was thinking about. I've never seen a crimp like this. Changed my mind.
Yes there is quite a big jump from those to decent crimp terminals and tools in quality, and even then before you get to the professional level materials there is a solid middle ground. Really happy the video helped you discover something new and cheers for the comment :) - Taz.
There are ways of soldering that are good. Space industry solders connectors and their requirements are higher than racing.
As usual Hp Academy delivers Everytime😻
Awesome video full of helpful info. You do the best interviews in the car world hands down. i feel like you surprise some of these guys with your overall knowledge .(: Keep it up.
Cheers Nate! Glad you enjoyed the interview! - Taz.
@ 8:32 - vapenation - love the easter eggs guys!
That's just the smoke being released from a poorly constructed wiring loom. The hardest part is getting it back in - Taz.
Andre is there anything you don't know about cars? Damn you seem to have a huge range of knowledge on motorsports building.
He knows everything about everything. .... Not only automobiles. EVERYTHING! !! It's been said that Andre has forgotten more than everyone in the world knows......
@@blindabinda1234 im sure he does
Here at HPA we have our own wiring guru called Zac as well (must be a name thing) and he does free introduction lessons, woo!
Join in on the next one by signing up here: www.hpacademy.com/introduction-to-wiring/ - Taz.
Saved to favorites. Great video!
Cheers Che! I really enjoyed this one too. Zac did a great job 🤘- Taz.
You should have visual aids for the products you are referring to for those of us not in the know TY.
We can only do so much with these videos, but we do have free lessons, a suite of wiring courses and resources on our forum as well if you're serious about your learning :) - Taz.
www.hpacademy.com/introduction-to-wiring/
www.hpacademy.com/forum
@@hpa101 Thankyou, never knew the course was free. I'll go get my learn on.
No worries, it's just the lesson that's free, the course are paid content just to be clear, but the lesson is awesome and well worth the watch even just for the Q&A at the end :) - Taz.
RBracing website is a goldmine!
Yes it is an excellent resource - Taz.
Ive been responsible for the electronics on our FSAE car and i wish i could go back and re-do so much of it with alot of the things these guys are saying :(
That's not a bad thing! Everyone is always learning and knowing you can do something better that you thought was mint at the time is a sign that you're progressing Oscar. Nobody starts knowing everything, it takes time :) - Taz.
Kinda funny that in the military we DO use solder "milspec" connectors on the aerospace equipment...
The suppliers tell you not to do this. Whatever works for you, but you won't find us soldering connectors unless we switch from performance vehicles/race cars to tractors, and even then we'd probably still crimp ;) - Taz.
Crimping "preferred method for high-performance applications": www.milnec.com/mil-spec-connector-learning-center/mil-spec-crimping-instructions/
Soldering "general-duty and industrial applications": www.milnec.com/mil-spec-connector-learning-center/how-to-solder-mil-spec-connectors/
More please
You only have to check the Military to see how their radio equipment wiring is made. Not cheap though! At least here in Aus the only failures I saw was due to neglect either having it squashed under heavy loads, worn on sharp steel/alloy or pulled so hard while attached that it had no choice but to tear itself to bits!
Awesome!
What about circular mil-spec connectors. Those are a really great choice to use and is a lot cheaper then Autosport connectors. Why don't you'll talk about mil-spec connectors.
What specific military specification/standard of connector are you referring to? 'Milspec' is a term that covers the wiring tractors through to missiles, it's not specific to anything.
Autosport on the other hand is a line of connectors made from the same parts bins that are specific to motorsport. They are generally lighter and have a higher pin count - Taz.
@@hpa101 ms3470 and ms3476 circular connectors. They use deutsch pin and socket terminals
RB WIRING? What website is this how would it spell can't find it
www.rbracing-rsr.com/wiring_ecu.html
Has anyone visited this guy's website he's doing wiring pornographic. His work is magnifico😵
@ 8:32 somebody was doing some epic soldering! 😅
It' completely off topic, 1:00-1:26, watch that kid in the background score some cool racecar stickers!
I never noticed that! Awesome! He is so stoked too! - Taz.
I get that he is a teacher and everything, but he is sometimes putting words in his mouth. Corner him to say his opinion and if he disagrees the debate can be held, and anyway i am sure he will not as they all follow similar standards. Thats what i learnt taking interviews for my college research.
Calling Deutsch DT/DTM connectors cheap is quite funny. In professional world of harness manufacturing, they are quite expensive, so in mass production, they are often substituted for various generations of cheap but reliable AMP Power Timers.
They were not called cheap, they were called cheap when *compared to Autosport connectors* 😎 - Taz.
OK then.
I got business cards made...
You're ahead of the game, we don't even have business cards so I guess we're not even really off the ground yet 😅 - Taz.
Nonsense i know people that only do electrical work and they use both soldering and crimping really makes no difference. Because what are the differences? ! You are just sending a signal or current through the copper wiring
One way squeezes the wires together, the other glues them together...
"Rice car"
What you guys are saying makes no sense when it comes to the whole connection and solder why do you think vehicles from the 70s 80s and 90s have wiring harness problems they didn't solder the wire to the connector overtime water or moisture got in between cause it to corrode and rust causing wiring harness problem the proper way of doing it is to crimp The Wire then solder then put a lair heat shrink around it it'll be water tie and make proper connection no matter what
I have an RX7 that had a wiring harness problem a wire fried due to inproper connection at a y splitter I went through replace the wire soldered it went through the whole wiring harness resoldering every splicer and connector from Factory all my wiring harness problems went away afterwards I got proper voltage to my fuel pump proper voltage to my coil packs and everything else so you can't tell me soldering wires is bad you have to crimp it then solder it to make proper connection all the way around
That is an insulation failure, not a crimp or solder failure and no you should NOT crimp and solder on a professional motorsports loom.
What you do at home is up to you but if you are sending work out the door that is crimped and soldered then you should spend a bit of time educating yourself on why that is neither professional or the correct way to do things - Taz.
Here is a post on this exact topic: instagram.com/p/BlY4I3EHITd/?taken-by=hpa101
@@deatherageperformance8367 I'll do that with large 0-AWG type sound system stuff but I think they're right about crimp instead of solder on sensor wire. I think he must be combining the wires before crimping but I still have to check his work out.
@@hpa101why on older vehicles do they have the similar problem all recurring around the same problem poor connection by just being crimp not soldered you expecting a race car application it to be crimp solder and heat shrink that way for durability and long term used
@@gammalight1312 I personally don't think his waist the proper way just cuz I work on older vehicles and I see the problems when it comes to electrical harness issues moisture and corrosion can get in anywhere and Destroy anything especially for wiring harness connections at least by putting a dab of solder along with the crimp will help block moisture out of it and keep a proper connection and if you really want to be OCD about it at put heat shrink