The Harms of Excommunication - Brinley Young
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- Brinley Young sits down with John & Margi Dehlin to discuss the harmful act of excommunication, and the damaging impact that it has on families and individuals.
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And can I add that our loving Heavenly Father isn’t an extortionist. He doesn’t separate families because you don’t pay to get into heaven or because you’re not “good enough”. I left the church not because of anti but because it simply stopped making sense.
It must especially hard for families when they live in an area with a high concentration of LDS. In places like Utah, Idaho, Arizona, California and Alberta there is a cultural network that is lost when people are ex'd. Schools may have 60% or more LDS members as students. Extended family are also members which makes things difficult. Excommunication (or now membership removal) is often experienced by members as rejection from people rather than for reasons of breaking church rules.
I wrote and asked my name be removed in early 80s as priesthood holder came into my house uninvited. When I came back they said I was considered excommunicated. If I had known this is how they would refer to me I never would have rejoined. I did nothing wrong in my mind. It was their priesthood who violated me. They never apologized.
You know they don’t give a damn.
You did nothing wrong. :( *hugs*
And they never will. (Apologize).
My heart aches for you. x
So you are excommunicated from the Mormon Church. Why be hurt? Instead, reguard the excommunication as the best thing to ever happen to you? Why? It's because you are no longer in a cult.
I agree Brinley.
Why I began my exit. After testing the beliefs and experiencing the pain it caused. There is no f’ing way a person like the Jesus I learned about would do what these men in these positions would do. They are not inspire at all. If that’s even a thing.
Well said.
It's not just the 'going' its the barbaric 'returning' which is soooo protracted and belittling.....again I agree that where is Christ in the process? Such authority over and above Christ is certainly not of God. I am grateful to be in recovery. .... and very thankful the Christ I know in the Bible would simply say "Go and sin no more". Every single Mormon male in authority is not above sin. x
I totally agree with you jesus and God are not part of the excommunication process but it doesn't stop the church tho from doing it tho
So true. Everyone would be welcome. So true. I agree.
"It hurts families". That is a feature not a bug of Mormon excommunications
Jesús does not excommunicate
But He said :
“Come to me ye who are heavy laden
and I will give you rest” .
♥️🙏 We Love You Jesus 🙏♥️
That's selective reading what you do there. In your same bible he talks about bringing the sword and what one can expect even if he sais Lord, Lord (go away, I know ye not). The most wonderfull thing with any religion is that you find in there that best suits you needs, whishes and wants. I could even proof Jesus was a false prophet with the bible. Its cognitive dissionance, confirmation bias, dunning-kruger effect etc. etc. etc.
@@professorpalkas4007 ,
And they professed to be Wise
and became Fools .
I profess to you
the words of Jesus.
@@AlexParker-zg9hp Thank you, EXACTLY the point I was trying to make. In the first sentense you write what would happen with those who profess (they will become fools), yet in the verry sentense below YOU profess about Jesus. See how it works? I wouldn't go as far as to call you a fool (thanks for trying to do that to me though), but I would like to challenge you to step out of your selective reading and to see things for how they really are for ANY and ALL religions: self-desception.
@@professorpalkas4007 ,
The greater SELF deception is precisely the one that Jesus was referring to , they are the ones that would become FOOLS .
@@AlexParker-zg9hp Who's the fool? The fool or the one following the fool? So therefore stop fooling yourSELF in ignoring the facts, as indeed you might find that text to be applicable on yourself rather sooner then later.
Hello
What Jesus is she talking about? Has she ever read Jesus' teachings in Matthew. Matthew 25:31-46
Very different scenarios
God wouldn't kick anyone out of heaven for rebellion, and he certainly wouldn't let anyone be accountable for their behavior.
Heavy sarcasm, I like it!
@@corybritton1966 To some it is given, and to some it is not given...;)
She is still adhering to Mormon theology, God & Jesus? Separate's the two, if God were here he would welcome everyone, equals Mormon universalism. Just keep reading the Bible, and you will shed the rest of the Mormon church's onion layers. You are in my prayers
Oh my gosh!! She had me 30seconds in! She throwing truth bombs period!
Don't forget church is for sinners for which we ARE all sinners.
It is my understanding that the Watchtower Organization (Jehovah's Witnesses) does the very same.
If the historical accounts in the Old Testament are to be believed, then clearly God was at times, very unforgiving!
We have to be careful about superimposing our personality onto Jesus: Jesus would act this way because this is how we would act!
One is more than willing to reply to any comments that are made to the above remarks of mine; in love, of course!