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- Опубликовано: 29 июл 2018
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I'm a banner towing pilot, and u think you guys should scale it up, and use ZP fabric.( same fabric used for parachute)for the banner. Good luck
Sweet! Ill let Alex know! ;)
Also, the dimensions need to be more square (taller per length) and put a weight in the bottom of the tail end. That's how the real thing is built!
matteos reisman where do you fly? I pulled for a few years in NJ.
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I did this with the full size Apprentice. I installed a bomb-drop mechanism under the aft firewall, trying to get close to the CG so that the banner drag wouldn't induce any nose up tendencies. Fishing line through the bracket of the drop servo, cardboard pant hanger (dry cleaners) at the front of the banner, and the banner was a white, 13 gallon trash bag cut down the sides and laid out long-wise. Used a fishing weight to ballast the bottom so it'll fly vertical. I would take off with the banner attached, and then to land, I'd overfly the drop zone, drop the banner, and then one more around the pattern to land! Used it for my boys' little league baseball game! Awesome stuff!!
Here's the proof: ruclips.net/video/bA8Ug6UWNOM/видео.html
Guys, I've done banner tows before! Was thinking about doing one at flitefest, but I forgot to make a flitefest banner :/
You don't need to do the pickup wire at all (makes for better episodes though). Just leave enough length in the line
My banners have always been made out of plastic garbage bags with colored tape on as text to keep things light
TO GET THE BANNER TO STOP FLAPPING: you need to put more material on the ends like tassels so the usable part of the banner doesn't shake as much.
Great video, hope you guys keep up with the towing content!
I was thinking you could kinda lay the banner out in front of the plane and take off parallel to it, with line long enough that once it's in the air, it's "unfurling" the banner as it goes - would save having to do a "pickup"
Our RC group at Blackrock RV Park in Brenda, Arizona started banner flying a few years ago. With considerable experimentation, we've ended up with thin white plastic kitchen garbage bags cut to about 6 inches wide x 6 feet long , lettering with large black permanent markers, harnessed to a weighted wire (similar to what you have done), and towed with about 10' of light string or mono-filament looped around the wings next to the fuselage and laid over the top of the elevator. The tow planes are hand launched, with surprising ease, avoiding the issue of hooking the banner in flight. With banners entitled "Don't Look Ethyl", "Old Pilots Rule", "Happy New Year", etc, we've had many laughs.
I towed a 47 character banner behind a modified Cessna 172 in thee 80's. Here are a couple of suggestions. 1) hook the grappling hook to the aircraft so you can do a normal takeoff and release the hook after takeoff. 2) have a release mechanism to release the banner and the hook so you can do a normal landing. For your pickup, fly level just above the pickup line at half throttle. Just as the plane passes over the line pitch up and add full throttle. I never missed a pick up using that method.
Great job guys. Add the drag chute, work on your pickup system a little more and lay the banner in front of the pickup posts. Laying the banner out *in front* (and usually at 45 degrees of the line of flight) of the pickup posts and *backwards* actually creates a ton less drag to lift and doesn't drag it through the grass on it's way up. Watch really close how the big guys do it!
I would like to thank everyone who signed my big timber. Andres, peter, josh Scott, Josh Bixler, Stephen, last but not least Alex.
Really cool. Use the bigger Timber next time and a whole lot bigger banner. HoHoHo 🎅
Use a treble hook and cut the barbs off so it won’t snag in someone’s arm. Also there used to be a guy in the Kansas City area that had a good sized cub, and actually had a banner business, scaled down of course, and flew at bbqs, birthday parties, small to medium sized get togethers. He also used the same type of banner system like the real banners. Might want to see if you can get a closeup picture of a real banner, or better yet, see if you can find one in the area to go look at.
Awesome to see you all review this plane since I just bought it as my first a month ago! No major mishaps so far and the thing is a blast to fly! SAFE was great to have starting out but I'm mostly flying with it off now. The lights are great for dusk flying and the flaps are really fun to play with. I just got back from doing some STOL take-off and landings on the side of a big hill at a local park. The FT and Afterhours RC podcasts are very helpful and I can't wait to get more into the hobby. Now I just need to decide which to get first, a Radian, big Timber, Tundra or something completely different. For now I'm having a lot of fun doing rolls, loops and even inverted flying with this little beast!
We have the FT Night Radian that is on pre-order right now! i think it ships end of August or sometime in September! ;) . Either way the LARGE Timber, Radian or Tundra ... you cant EVER go wrong with. We prefer the Radian and Timber, but all are awesome planes!
I may have to have my local hobby store pre-order one for me as well. I believe Horizon is saying September. ;(
P.S. I will definitely be building both a SeaDuck(favorite plane from my chidlhood!) and an RC Explorer Mini or Baby Tricopter. I
I just spent a week down the shore. It was so windy some of the days that the banner planes had to fly diagonally into the wind just to fly in a straight line. It was pretty cool seeing full sized planes crabbing along at a 45 degree angle.
I’ve been wanting to do this for three years but just never had the opportunity (up at the lake). I wasn’t sure how to weigh the bottom of the banner so it doesn’t just flop around willy-nilly... until now. 😎
"without further adieu"
* many more adieus *
I flew banners on the Jersey Shore with a pilot we called Dangle...
He got his nickname because one day after a long night of drinking he forgot to untie the tail tie down, he was so hung over that instead of getting out to check he just used max power to pull out of his tie down area. Well, crazy enough, he went and towed his first banner of the day without realizing that there was a 3 foot metal spike and a tie down rope "Dangling" under the tail wheel of the aircraft.
Love to see you do this with a full size TImber or a Storch. This would be a great fun fly event for our club not to mention a chance to do some advertising.
That was awesome!!! Also being at Flitefest was one of the best experiences of my life!!!
Juan alvaro marchina loves having you there my friend! So glad you enjoyed it!
*Suggestion: The real banners often have small parachute(s) dragging from the back of the banner ... One at the top and one at the bottom corners. (And in the middle of wider banners) They're made from a light, open netting material to add a little resistance, but not enough drag to stop the operation of the tow plane. You might try that.*
*Or, for RC, you could try streamers instead of the parachute. Let us see what you come up with.*
Write the advertisement on the top of the plane and fly around knife edge or inverted lol.
Nice! Maybe some wieght on the end would help with the flapping. Great work! Also in terms of your ad legality questions: you should look at rc blimp companies online, they do that kind of a thing for a living and would probably know a bit about the subject.
You're picking up your banners wrong. Lay them on the ground backwards so when the "snatch" occurs, you are only picking up the leading edge of the banner and the rest in a measured drag instead of pulling the whole banner weight on the first grab.
Love your channel, keep up the good work!
I have one of the umx timbers! They are awesome! I would recomend getting it if you want a small rc airplane. It has STOL and has the SAFE technologies.
Try it on the tundra! That thing has so much power. On 4s it would have no problem with a much larger banner
Hmmm... perhaps a dedicated design for banner towing is in order. Big motor, big battery, a jettison mechanism for the tow line, and maybe move the streamer to the base of the hook, for better visibility and more stability.
I can't believe this came out. I told someone at FliteFest that I was doing this next year with my RUclips channel on it.
This is an original trial run of the banner. It is homemade and it took about 12-15 prototypes and test runs to get it to fly straight and level and not corkscrew. This video was years ago when I was just beginning to get it right. I don't have an updated video of how is flies these days. These days, It flies awesome and very scale.
Yes. Try it on a bigger plane. What a great idea!
A simple man and a simple idea. Great job guys. Andres is quite the pilot
ALL R/C aircraft weighing more than 0.55lbs are UASs, per the FAA, not just quads/multirotors.
Love these experiments Josh....and Andres flight abilities are amazing..... You guys need your own show "Flite Test Discoveries" YES Scale UP always.....
Would love to see you guys do some EDF designs. MiG-15 vs F-86 maybe?
Or some of the more obscure WWI/WWII planes. Junkers or Dornier designs maybe? Or some of the experimental German stuff.
That is awesome! I just got that plane in the mail and I can’t wait to get it in the air👍!
Maybe if you use the FT Cruiser to tow a larger banner that would look really awesome. Greetings from Mexico.
I did not know that is how they get those attached... Interesting!
Crazy right! ;)
Me either!
FliteTest look up Paramount air service aka Paramount air circus. There used to be bids of me pulling. We really had to dive on them in the T cart's unlike the Pawnee shown because they have half the power lol. It was crazy and fun.
That is so cool! Good job guys I never thought about trying it with an RC. Always a pleasure to see what ya'll come up with.
Also you should get a hook that is able to be jettisoned so you can bring it in for a real landing like the big boys!
Great idea, love to see it scaled up. Doing more with RC makes it more interesting and keeps the fun alive.
You might watch this, it may give you some ideas. I think it could help control the banner more. I actually thought about trying this too, but never got around to it. I’m sure companies would pay to do this at flight fests and other RC flight activities.
Omg I literally did this exact same thing the other day! Except I made a release mechanism with the flaps on the umx timber
this video was so cool, I would definitely want to see this with a bigger plane like the ultra stik
Absolutely scale this up...build a giant Guinea for it!
You could try it with a Super Decathlon it would have plenty of power whilst still being agile enough to maneuver to hook up to the banner
The return of traditional episodes! I do hope there is more footage from Flite Fest to cover tho. I always enjoy the retrospectives.
Be on the lookout this week ;)
Only fly the letters and cut the rest of de banner out safe you more than 50% of the weight.
And at the end of the banner put a wind splitter on so it wont flap arround so mutch.
Also you might need more power and bigger wing span.
Greetings,, Kitty.
p.s.
Love your work!!
Love your channel!!
That's a nice plane. I'll be looking at to see if I can add it to my collection of small RC planes.
I know you wanted to do it the 'professional' way but I'm pretty sure that if you rolled up the banner (for less initial drag) you could probably get the Timber to haul it up at take-off. _Especially if you made the banner from a lighter material_
The umx turbo timber evo is prob the best one out on the market. You should try to recreate this episode.
Maybe if you vented the banners, or added screen to the tail-end, they wouldn't flap so much? (I've seen them do that to full sized ones!)
Can we get a few more British warbirds (e.g a Lancaster or a beaufighter) or at least something like a special video to celebrate the RAF centenary?
definately scale it up! would be a great thing to have at FlightFests and other events.....both to advertise for yourselves and even others in the industry... And as you said, it might even become a legit sales thing.....
I think I just witnessed the creation of BANNERS - R - US ! Good job guys.
I wonder if you could reduce the banner fluttering by having a small weight at the end? Or a semi-flexible wire running down the length of the bottom edge?
You should make a little banner that says, "We're liars, we never intended to feature any gas planes"
It needs a stick on the end with a longer ended bottom side and a weight attached on the bottom of the stick to settle it down.
Great job Fella`s.... Now I want that lil plane and its next on my list !!
Great....try a bigger Timber or new Maule with a larger easy-to-see silk banner
We do it with our Giant 2,80m Piper Cub and we just tow it up from ground or bundle it up and drop it in the air and the tow it (never tried the real life methode)
So make a servo towing hook where you could attatch the string on so you can also drop it before landing
Typically I think the letters are cut out of the banner and the open space keeps the banner upright and not flapping
Eh that was the plane of the year for 2017!
André Rousseau soooo. What was for 2018? Lol
We don't know yet but suspect a certain plane with lights is set to win our hearts.
Will there be a revisit with this?? Maybe a little bigger plane and a two sided fabric? If you go to a local printing shop and get something screen printed on silk that would be a cheep alternative to the real fabric.
That is awesome!! I brought the mats to do this with my 78" cub at FF15, but never got to it.
About the Part 107, I talked to a guy in detail about advertising at a beach. He's doing it down in Florida with a multi-rotor. He is making bank!
Flite test so I am trying to buy a drone the eachine x220 and I was looking through banggood for antennas so it would make the flight better in some ways and I found many antennas but it confused me because you can place the antenna on the drone and then you can place it on the goggles or the transmitter/remote and I don't know exactly which things I should buy for the eachine x220 or another drone please help me because it really confuses me.
Yeah I don't know what things to buy except the eachine wizard x220 unless you give me better choices that I should choose
Hey you guys should make a rc b-2 and or a b-52
Try it with somewhat like the Tundra. I think that could easy pull a 2x12ft Banner
I watched a full scale version of that and have always wanted to try with RC.
That was awesome, I just got this plane at the end of the summer now just been waiting for spring to get back. Can't wait to fly i'll be watching for more
Hi guys I have a umx timber myself and the tale gear on the rudder keeps recking the rudder mounts and the tale gear sits off to the side would you have any ideas on how to fix it? Thanks!!!
Also thanks for shipping it to Australia well appreciated
I got that plane for Christmas
Nice job guys. Went to Jason Philips Apprentice Banner video below, you should go watch it and take his pointers, he did a great job. Also the possibility of doing “banner bomb drop” competition comes to mind when watching the banner disconnect! And I know how FT loves a competition!! Challenge on!!!
@Flite Test @Josh Bixler @Alex we need a new updated FAA 107 episode !
That would be nice to see with a bigger plane. Great video gentlemen. Cheers!
I know this is old, but you should try this again and try and fly it slower. When you see these in real life, they fly soooooo slow. Perhaps make it more rigid, so you can pull it easier. Even with a little extra weight, the rigidity would make it slice through the wind.
Wow, that was way too... cool, so much fun and thinking way out of the box; good luck!
That's awesome - definitely something I would like to do with my plane (if I ever finish it...)
Had this idea for the longest time! Glad you guys tried this!
That's a great idea for advertising a new business opening or event!
I fly my umx timber fpv and its amazing in a slight breeze it hovers like a drone its an amazing plane
We LOVE it! ;)
Make a foam plane with a 24 foot wingspan. Fly the banner.
Also make some slices in the banner so it keeps straight
Love it. You guys always put a smile on my face!You could use the Durafly Tundra which can be used a tow plane for gliders.
I say yes Go BIG or go home. Do you guys still have an E flite Carbon Z Cub around the shop? Or maybe that Cessna 170 from Flex innovations? One last thing maybe a twin engine with a catcher mounted to the nose, a small helium balloon to hold the line off the ground. I have seen a similar contraption used to rescue people in a situation where a helicopter would be too slow.
Alex, great minds must think alike. I, literally, had this idea about a month ago. I thought I had commented on it, but apparently not. Great job on bringing the airplane tow into reality!
And, I'm so glad to see new content again!
What's the biggest battery the plane will take?
I think that this project definitely has some potential
That’s great, thought about doing something like that with a rc truck pulling a trailer.
I would love 2 C the larger upscale version...Keep up the good work and I love your vids...Oh Ya I was wondering if you could recommend a first plane? My son and I want to get into the hobby
Thanks for your time and attention... It's appreciated
LOVE YOU FLITETEST!!!! FLITEFEST WAS THE BEST!!!
Love the video super awesome you guys are amazing will all your videos you guys are one of my favorite RUclipsrs
to save on weight you can use a garbage bag with permanent markers for the banner. You also need to put tails on the banner. I used my larger Timber to pull a Welcome banner at my club's big charity event last year. I also ended up using plastic drinking straws to add some rigidity to the sign to help prevent twisting of the sign.
Here's video of my first attempt: ruclips.net/video/HKgFVjCwSWQ/видео.html
Awesome, I think I’m gonna try to buy that plane now, I’ve always wanted a bush plane!
It is BOMB! ;) Your gonna love it! ha
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I just need to make some money first, I’m pretty broke😂
HaHa fun video. Go huge with this concept. Would love to see a massive banner. What about a spinning banner under a drone?
Why don't you just take off with the banner already attached? Won't the plane accelerate fast enough while taking up the leader string to pull the banner up?
Build idea: make a plane with a tensegrity airframe. I just want to see if it's possible.
Why is there not a Mighty mini bushwacker? I would love a smaller bush plane scratch build.
Awesome! How about trying it with a tundra?
You placed a whole lot of emphasis on how the UMX Timber is JUST LIKE the park-flyer-sized Timber. Clearly the only way to follow this video is by doing a bigger banner with a bigger Timber :)
Well done it really works quite well,even the full sized pick ups can be hit and miss at times.
Next time you guys do a scratch build you should do the AVRO Arrow, don't see many of those around.
Wow that's cool....
Another challenge for flite test.. Flying double size mattress...... Something like aladin's mat...... (the cartoon aladin)
Your hosting is fantastic! I really like how professional and amiable your delivery is. Let's get you in front more often!
of course you should scale this up alex it's not a question ;)