I built from scratch a ball screw 30”x40” CNC router, belt drive CNC laser engraver (24”x24”) and a belt driven CNC plasma table (5’x10’) - the noises you are experiencing are normal. This machine looks like great value considering you can just buy it and go. Great videos, so I subscribed.
Thanks for the video and it looks like you’re really excited with your new machine. I know how you feel, I got a used 3XXL the middle of last year and am still learning but so much fun
I enjoyed your content. I was happy you spoke about your upgraded differences between machines. I also feel that between some companies machines you were truly unbiased and was straight to the point on how different they were as well as operated. I look forward to more of your content on the machine as I hope to as well purchase the 5Pro as I feel though I’m incompetent in CNC I wish to have such that I can grow into for the long haul while I transition out of my current job back into my “ Wood Grained” wood working skills as that’s been a hobby rather than a money maker like it should be for me.
The noise in your X axis possibly is caused by a ball screw misalignment. Anytime you here a ball screw make marble sounds in a specific part of the travel and not over full travel there are a few items to check. 1. Verify the ball nut is not twisted. Run the X all the back then loosen the nut from the plate allowing the nut to relax. You must be at the motor side where the rigid bearings are located. The opposite side or operator side in front is a floating bearing. The ball nut screws into a banjo or hole. But the banjo is bolted to the plate hold up the Y axis. Relax this first. Loosen the plate and then tighten reinstalling the bolts with blue loctite. Do the same with the bolts clamping the ball nut to the banjo. Do both X1 and X2 at the same time. Do not just do one and test then do the other. The gantry axis needs to maintain squareness. 2. Your Y axis is load in only one direction. This usually indicates a higher load that could be a linear bearing yours has 4. You can loosen one at a time and slide it out then run it up and down the linear rail. It should feel very smooth in both directions left and right. If it feels stiffer in one direction the the bearing is failing or needs lubrication. Linear bearings are designed for thin film lubrication. Either by way of #000 grease or by a pressurized central lube pump. Simply putting oil on the linear rails is not helping at all. There are several small metal balls that recirculate inside the linear bearing through a narrow passage. If dry, they will get stuck and stall meaning the balls are no longer rolling but be dragged across the gothic arch of the rail. I highly recommend ( I am a CNC Engineer for 30 years) using grease. The grease is pumped in and pushes any dust caught under the seals back out making the internal of the bearing cleaner. 3. If the marbles do not stop after relaxing the ball nuts, you need to also check the smoothness of the X linear bearings. McMaster Car sells the #000 grade grease on their website. Link... www.mcmaster.com/products/nlgi-no-000-grease/ You can find a modestly inexpensive manual grease pump online. Amazon has them for less than $100. You need to install 4mm nylon tubing to replace the zerk fittings on each linear bearing. Amazon has kits but do not forget to get a manifold block so you can tie all the tubes in the main lube line. If you have any questions feel free to ask. Glad to help.
Trying to start a small business using this machine near future. I never had one and never used one. But this video is very helpful information. Thank you!
Enjoyed the content and your setup over the Husky cart. Also a little jealous, you got to mount your DC higher than mine; just didn't work out for me, lol. Check out this part I ordered in case I was able to run my DC through the ceiling to a loft/crawlspace...S & D 0440 4" Male Adapter...(keeps the pipe from falling through a hole in plywood). Peace.
Thank you sir for the video. I’ve been looking for videos about the shapeoko 5 since I’m looking to buy one. I keep hearing is a good machine specially for someone new. I’m retired Marine and wanted to make flags like I saw you making some in the background. I have a lot to learn. I’m sure there are headaches in that learning process. Look forward to see some of your projects in the near future and learn from them.
Excellent video, thank you! This helped me understand the machine better and what it can do. Also, being new to CNC it sounds like it's both a great machine for beginners and for advanced users so it's something that will last for a long time. The added benefit of good customer service and a complete package including software is nice too. God bless!
Even though the machine I ordered is not a Shapeoko unit, I like hearing others thoughts on these prosumer units. Also, seeing this video made me realize that the one I have coming (Ultimate Bee-- Chinese version of a ball screw) has a similar cross frame and will require a similar spoil board setup as this one. I subscribed. Looking forward to seeing another CNC perspective that I can learn from.
Great video! I have a Shapeoko 3 XXL, and a Shapeoko Pro (not the 5 Pro), and just about every accessory Carbide 3D sells. I love my Shapeoko's. I've had my 3 for about 6 years... I've heard others mention the noise as a "con" (it was a small con, but they did mention it).
Thank you very much! I totally agree with you. The "noise" is no big deal at all, like I said I was nit picking. Tough to find anything wrong with the cnc in my opinion.
Thanks a lot, I really appreciate that. Here's the size and description of the tool box from Home Depot's site: "46 in. W x 24.5 in. D Standard Duty 9-Drawer Mobile Workbench Cabinet with Solid Wood Top"
Oh sorry. Yes, I added a secondary sheet of 3/4” plywood on the top. The cnc is larger than the table top of the tool box. It cantilevers over the sides by about 8 inches on each side and like 12” on the back. I added a 2x4 ledger to the back wall to help support the plywood top.
Love the video! My 5 Pro 4x4 shipped today! One thing I wanted to mention, the audio in the video seems very muffled on my tv. Not so much on my laptop that I'm viewing on now. You can hear in certain parts it gets really muffled when it gets pressed up against your neck. Keep up the content!
Hey Brett, thank you for the helpful videos you have been making!! If you had the room for the Shapeoko 5 pro 4x4 would you buy that or stay with the 4x2?
Hello Brett, do you recommend this machine to someone that has never work with CNC but has a lot of creativity and inspiration for small projects as well as wanting to side hustle $500 -$1000 a month?
Excellent Video, what kind of PC Tablet are you using, would you get the same one. Also what dust collection system do you recommend. I'm new to CNC and new to Shapeoko 5 pro user.
I got the pc tablet on Amazon, I can’t recall the brand but it was one of the cheaper one online. I have a link to it in the description. I love it, runs carbide motion perfect and touch screen is nice. I run a Fein turbo I dust extractor which is a little on the expensive side ($350) but it works awesome and is quiet. A simple shop vac will work to get started, they are just really loud. Welcome to the CNC world.
Great idea for the Husky tool box as the table for the CNC! How did you do the bench top, did you just replace the stock butcher block with a bigger thicker piece?
Nice overview, thanks. I'm surprised there's not more content on the S5Pro. I do think the onefinity line (another ballscrew driven CNC) is a better value though. You get a machine that's been reliable and very easy to set up and use for quite a bit cheaper. Both are excellent though and you really can't go wrong with either. Looking forward to more content, subscribed.
The noise level on yours isn't that bad. I have seen another video where there's seemed much louder then yours. I was going to get one of these to add to the one I already have but I wound up getting a cnc4newbie. It doesn't come with the bit setter or light or wasteboard BUT it did have free shipping which was very surprising and that probably saved about $150. Since I'm a fan of the light, my wife bought a $7.98 LED light. I attached it under the gantry with the supplied magnets and surprisingly it does a very good job and its small enough that you really can't see the light. Mine is gear driven but one thing different is the noise level. Its actually very quiet. If I were to put one of those VFD's on it I wouldn't hear a thing. I still like the 5 pro though. I think its a very good deal especially with everything included. Speaking of customer service, I use carbide create pro. I had a question about it so I called customer service. I did not let them answer since I was driving and decided to hangup. You know they actually took the time to call me BACK! Now thats service! No one ever calls back after a hangup.
Thank you for sharing this video. I am looking into purchasing a Pro 5. While reading up on the VFD spindle, I saw that it doesn't work well with a GFCI outlet. Did you have that issue and were you able to find a solution?
I had a cnc on a wooden cabinet with counter top like what is used for a kitchen sink. X and Y axis moves were very loud and also the cutting operations as well. Turns out the cabinet was acting as a resonance chamber, aka speaker box, and greatly magnified the sounds. I think your metal cabinet combined with the plywood overhangs is acting the same way. My solution was to switch to a very sturdy, open style table with a concrete slab on top and not touching any walls that it could transfer the sound into. You could also use a stone slab instead of making a concrete one. Trade off is no storage space or portability. Putting a rubber mat on the floor under the tool box will probably not help. Maybe some vibration damping pads directly under the unit would help though. You could also try insulating the walls of the underside of the cabinet top, bottom and walls with some foam glued to it.
Those are all great ideas and would definitely help. The cnc is not loud at all though, only a little on initialization but that’s normal operation. Thanks for commenting, I really appreciate it.
Nice, I just watched an install video on the 5 Pro and now your basic review... That's almost as doing myself... good feel for my startup on the very same machine I am about to order. swap to one of your computers with a bit more umpth than that tablet, to see if the hick up improves!
Thanks a lot for watching and good luck. I’ve run a more powerful Pc laptop and also a MacBook Pro, same results. But it’s not an issue, we’re talking like 5 seconds.
Hi Brett, Just a quick question for your tool box. Are you using just one or do you have two of them that the Shapeoko is sitting on? Thank you.. Great video..
Brett - great video, thank you. Is there any chance the delay you mention (at the end of the video) is caused by the tablet not having enough memory to efficiently run through the code? I was initially thinking about using my laptop, but like your idea with the tablet - as long as the delay isn't caused by the tablet. Thanks
Thank you very much. No, it does the same thing when connected to my more powerful pc laptop and also my MacBook Pro. The tablet has been working out great but I simply use it to run Carbide Motion.
No, my spindle/VFD are installed on a 20amp non-gfi outlet. I’ve read the VFDs will not work on gfi protected outlets but I haven’t researched it because I was never in that situation.
@@LaserGarage thank you for your reply, these days it’s hard to tell if the reviews is honest or not especially in RUclips, everybody seems like they’re getting bought out. Lol . Thanks again.
need 3000$ discount then have normal machine price what ewery men can build in garage only orden all same parts, rails,ballscrews,motors,motor drivers, controller,spindle and FREE better linuxcnc software.
looking at buying two Shapeoko would it make since to buy 1 5pro 2x4 and 1 xxl pro I know one has ball screws and the other don't but to save a little money just wondering do it makes sense
Totally depends on what your budget is, goals are and what you're trying produce. Are these your first CNC routers? Is this for a business you already have established or are you trying to start one up? You have enough production back log to run two machines? These are just a few of many questions you have to ask yourself to answer that question. It's a personal decision for sure. I will say I love my S5P 2x4, it's plenty robust for me in my situation. I have owned the Shapeoko Pro in the past which is 33"x33" and belt driven. It was an awesome machine too and I never had any issues with it and made a lot of projects.
Tons. I use carbide create software for CAD/CAM, and g-code is sent to machine through carbide motion. There is no additional post processor needed. You can use whatever software you want, you’re not locked into this. But I find this easiest and it works great.
@@LaserGarage Which version carbide motion are you using and does it allow you to do tool changes if so what turns your spindal off for tool changes Thanks Jeff Peters
I’m using the latest CM version, I think it’s build 597. Tool changes are built into G-code when you design your files in CC. The spindle is turned on/off automatically via CM software, you’re prompted to change tool, afterwards the tool is measured by the bit setter and you’re off to running again.
No way not a dumb question. I design all my files on my laptop and basically only use the tablet to control the cnc. The tablet will run carbide create no problem but it’s a little small to do design work. I do use it occasionally to alter files slightly, like to enable/disable tool paths or change small amounts of text. Hope this helps.
A water cooled spindle would be great for sure. I bet Carbide 3d will come out with one for this machine, the HDM model comes with one after all. You could always go aftermarket for a water cooled option as well though. I haven't found the air cooled version to blow sawdust everywhere though.
@@LaserGarage If it doesn't blow sawdust then there is no need for water cooled one. I had 2,2KW ER20 air cooled spindle and there were such mess when I had been using it without dust shoe so I swap it with water cooled. Here is water cooled without shoe ruclips.net/video/VNEKgpAc1P0/видео.html Sawdust stays on piece so workshop is clean. Water cooled is more for hard materials like aluminum and steel because it can work with lower RPM with no impact on cooling. I really do like your new machine. I am building machine for one my friend by my design and if I saw your video week before I probably do the way your machine is built. Your machine is really dam good looking, elegant. I like led logo it is nice touch. It is perfect for MDF and plywood (probably the best design for that kind of materials) and my friend wants to do that materials. I don't work with wood only when someone of my friends or family wants something. My hobby is designing electronics, programming microcontrollers and making hardware for machines because I have been making software for big PE for last 30 years 😥😥 and making CNCs is resting from boring job. I wish you all the best and a lot of good work with new machine. It worth every $$ and if you work it will be precious the most important tool.
If you have the room I’d definitely go with the 4x4. You can cut small stuff on a big cnc but you can’t cut big stuff on a small cnc (there’s tricks to do it, but it’s still easier to have a bigger machine). I love my 2x4 and it fits perfect in my space. But if I had more room I’d definitely spring for the 4x4
Looks like a good machine especially at the price point! It’s certainly not loud! If you park the machine closer to the home position at the end of the day it will make the start up next day to be much faster!😉
I've been researching CNC routers maybe 4 months now. I worked in machine shop, CNC and manual machines 35 years+. Never played with a CNC router though. I am leaning toward this Shapeoko 5, 4 x 4. My only concern, CNC machines are usually built with the Gantry the shortest distance on X or Y. This machine, its build on the longest axis. I am wondering why it was built that way. How is the rigidity of this gantry with it being so long?
Hi there, thanks for the comment. I can’t speak to the design intent of the machine. I can say that the gantry is very beefy and I see a lot of machines designed this way. I only machine wood but lots of people use the Shapeoko to mill aluminum or other soft metals.
I ran across another one of your videos then I watched this one again. Just wanted to say thanks. That last video showed how you tapered off the edge using a 90. I haven't actually done that yet so I didn't know how. Has been kinda hard finding a demo of that. People talk about it but they don't show it. You did. Thanks! I have a request also that NO ONE makes a video of and it would be very helpful to viewers. I don't know how to enter ODD shaped bits into the database like a round over bit or even a 1 inch wide flattening bit. I have asked this question before but no one seems to want to do it not realizing the potential watched views from people like me. To start you off in case you don't know, there is a tools folder and a library folder that you can get to by opening the data directory. On a MacBook you just click on "about carbide create" and you will see the data directory button. The library folder is used to store all your svg's (Must have separate folders) and it will show up in your library window along with all the other default .svgs's. This is very handy! The tools folder stores your tools on spreadsheets in .csv formats. If you save a spreadsheet with nothing on it in this folder as whatever+whatever+whatever.csv (I cant remember if I used " " as an escape character for the +) it will show up in you tools menu as whatever-whatever-whatever. On that spreadsheet you could create a table with all the headings and info of your bits (I cheated. I used the one offered by IDCwoodcraft that you can download). Close out CC and reopen. Your tools will now be able to be used. However, using the available spreadsheet I have no idea how to enter a 10 degree tapered finishing bit with all the important info. This lack of knowledge recently kinda of made one of my projects unsightly. I was making a wrench out of wood and I was using that same bit but I chose the 1/32 ball out of CC menu. That lack of information and choosing the wrong bit did not help CC from writing g-code that made my router dive into the wood in a couple of spots for no reason. As a result of the bit being tapered and CC not knowing that it created a couple of indents into the side of the wooden wrench I was making. If you dive into it, it would actually be a very good video for you to make. What do you think?
@@LaserGarage I will but my main concern is getting to the meat and potatoes to make a good video. As far as I can tell, I've told you more then what I've seen in any video for others to learn from.
Have you tried using a regular laptop or pc to run the programs. It could be the lag time is from the tablet. I have used an Apple air and a windows laptop on my 4xl and there is a different in response time between the two.
Yes, I’ve used both a PC and Mac laptop to run cuts. The time it takes for the cnc to start moving as I described in the video is the same. Thanks for the comment.
Not sure about water cooled, I’ve only used the C3d air cooled spindle. Love it though. The largest shapeoko pro is the xxl, which is about 33”x33” bed size.
I have an openbuilds 1515 (4'x4' cutting area)... so far, I really enjoy it and it works very well. I'm not sure if this would be considered an upgrade from mine?
@@LaserGarage I know their support has been fantastic. I've never waited more than a couple business hours for a response to my support requests. That's a huge selling point for me with any company.
I just got the same machine. I also had a great experience with their customer support. I got a bad controller (you can read up about this on their site) that was part of a bad batch of PCBs they got from their supplier. They next day’d me out a new controller and I was back up and running inside of 48 hours. I went with a raspberry pi and 10” touch screen as a controller. It’s a bit more expensive than the windows tablet in this video but it won’t install updates without me telling it to, it’s super reliable (SSD storage instead of flash), very low power requirements, and no built in battery that will eventually die on me. If anyone is looking for help setting a raspberry pi up as a controller I’m happy to help for free. If I get interest I might make a doc on how to set it up.
Awesome thanks a lot. My VFD board went out about a month ago. Same story, awesome customer service. Was back up with a new part in just a couple days.
Can you advise if you would still recommend the Husky tool chest as a base, or would you change to something more stable? Trying to get my ducks in a row before ordering one the cnc. Thanks for the video and tips.
I still love it. The Husky is on casters yes but I have a ledger board (2x4) screwed into the back wall and the plywood top is attached both the ledger and to the Husky top. Very stable. One thing I am going to change soon is to add some foam mats underneath the CNC to further help with vibrations. Not 100% necessary because I've been fine without it up until now but I figure it will only help. A lot of people recommend doing this on the Carbide 3d official forum.
Do you mind providing the dimensions of the added plywood top and case to the left. My 4x2 came in, but I'm waiting on the spindle. I'm trying to get things ready... Any help would be much appreciated.
No it’s not the tablet. The cnc functions the same with my nice PC laptop or my MacBook Pro. It’s not a big deal, just a little “thinking” time when starting a project.
Putting a power APC / line conditioner on the power supply will reduce the noise from the servos. The tubes are acting as a solo cup / amplifying the noises.
Hey buddy Did you have to level your wast bed with a flatting bit? My waste boards are all un even so should I run a flatting tool path first before doing any projects? regards, rick
Hey! I didn’t flatten initially, I was to excited get up and running. I have done it since though as I showed in my waste board video. To be honest I’m not ever doing anything that requires extreme precision so I don’t know how important it is. All my slats have been flat enough front the factory. Make sure they are all screwed down the same, having some loose and some tight will change their height.
@@LaserGarage Heres the problem The Metal Track under the Waste boards have tapered screw holes but the tapers are different depths wich is making those tapered screws stick out beyond the metal track in some areas making the waste board be un even. Im going to contact support but wanted to know if you have this problems with your aluminum track? regards, Rick
Oh I see. No I didn’t have that problem with the countersunk holes. They’re aluminum, you should be able to run a countersink bit on the bad ones to fix it real quick.
Can’t say for sure really because I’ve never used either. But…I have looked at the Longmill, seems like a great machine and Sienci Labs seems like a cool company. Vectric is powerful software and there’s a huge community that uses it, I’m sure it’s fantastic. You will pay for it though from what I understand.
No idea on the longmill, but I only use vectric software for my projects. I love them, but unless you plan on doing 3d carves you can get by with easier, cheaper software
Yes, the C3d spindle can be used on the pro and the Shapeoko 4 also. It can be used on the earlier machines also but I think it requires a z axis upgrade.
The onefinity do not come with a waste board, so you have to make your own and add that to the price. I watched about 10 videos on the onefinity and the machine was sent to the RUclipsrs. The "reviews" were kinda bias. Not saying that Carbide 3D do not do it to, they all do it. You have to make your own research and not trust influencers. Influencers are part of the marketting dept. 🤣 I did research for more then 12 months before I pick the Shapeoko3 XL 5 years ago. Have zero regret, the Carbide 3D support and forum is fantastic. Speaking of support, I watched a video on Onefinity channel and asked two questions. They never replied. 😁
@@Marcus_Caius I bough t my first cnc from carbide in 2017 and then replaced it with the 4 pro to get a bigger cutting area and now I bought the 4x4 5pro also for a bigger cutting area. I build custom Cabinets Drawers and MDF shaker style cabinet doors out of one piece of 3/4" thick MDF Jeff Peters
not can compare, masso have worst controller , if burn one axis need buy all new controller expensive and stupid, need be machine were controller have simple change and lot cheapen, etc, mesa card, or paraller port card.
tbh, the price is a bit absurdly high, no doubt it is a good machine, but its expensive especially compared to the onefinity elite where you get the masso g3 touch controller for roughly the same price
Onefinity CNCs are definitely awesome machines. If I had the room I’d definitely get one as well. I’m not sure that they are less expensive though. Once the price of a spindle, waste board, tool setter, and software are added.
@LaserGarage 1f machines just seem cheaper because their pricing is 'a la carte'. Once you add everything up, they're more expensive. Source: I own both
same cost than onefinity but lot better rails and spindle and lot better motors,and screws, have good machine buy if Vcarve software include whit machine.
I wish. I’m a big fan of their CNCs, as I said I’ve had two of them now. Just trying to help people who are interested. When I bought this there were no videos of the machine.
@@LaserGarage ok well on another note. Its from usa and im in uk. Must be we have european manufacturing of similar machines just as good. Also i want 4th axis
why waste money ower 4000$ buy cnc machine because normal men can build own lot better cnc machine DIY in home easy, this money can buy 4 pcs lot better machine if make DIY. better rails,better motors,FREE software, good machine but 4 machine price have. why need waste lot money if same or better can build lot cheapen in garage.
I’m not sure why they decided to move it but I don’t have a problem with it. I like how the diameter of it is bigger. You only need to move it if you surface the waste board. It doesn’t affect anything else such as loading a 4’ wide board.
Thanks for all the great information. I really liked your compact table design and the information differences between the two machines.
I built from scratch a ball screw 30”x40” CNC router, belt drive CNC laser engraver (24”x24”) and a belt driven CNC plasma table (5’x10’) - the noises you are experiencing are normal.
This machine looks like great value considering you can just buy it and go.
Great videos, so I subscribed.
Thanks a lot. Great info!
Another good job on a review. Thanks Brett.
My pleasure!
Literally just ordered my own 4x2 after having worked with my FIL's Pro XXL for a few years now, big thanks for an honest video! Subbed.
Glad I could help!
Thinking of buying the same unit. Sure glad I found your video. Thanks man!
You’re Welcome. Thanks for checking out the video.
Thanks for the review. This machine is on my short list. Trying to learn everything I can about CNC machines.
Good luck! The Shapeoko is an excellent choice
Thanks for the video and it looks like you’re really excited with your new machine. I know how you feel, I got a used 3XXL the middle of last year and am still learning but so much fun
Thanks, a lot! The 5 pro is still going strong, love it.
Purchased a 5 pro 2 x 4 with the driver today. Thanks for the walkthrough !
You’re welcome. Have fun!
I really like the setup on the Husky cart, great use of space. - Chris
Thanks a lot, it works out nice.
I enjoyed your content. I was happy you spoke about your upgraded differences between machines. I also feel that between some companies machines you were truly unbiased and was straight to the point on how different they were as well as operated. I look forward to more of your content on the machine as I hope to as well purchase the 5Pro as I feel though I’m incompetent in CNC I wish to have such that I can grow into for the long haul while I transition out of my current job back into my “ Wood Grained” wood working skills as that’s been a hobby rather than a money maker like it should be for me.
Thanks for checking out the video and good luck in your journey.
The noise in your X axis possibly is caused by a ball screw misalignment. Anytime you here a ball screw make marble sounds in a specific part of the travel and not over full travel there are a few items to check.
1. Verify the ball nut is not twisted. Run the X all the back then loosen the nut from the plate allowing the nut to relax. You must be at the motor side where the rigid bearings are located. The opposite side or operator side in front is a floating bearing. The ball nut screws into a banjo or hole. But the banjo is bolted to the plate hold up the Y axis. Relax this first. Loosen the plate and then tighten reinstalling the bolts with blue loctite. Do the same with the bolts clamping the ball nut to the banjo. Do both X1 and X2 at the same time. Do not just do one and test then do the other. The gantry axis needs to maintain squareness.
2. Your Y axis is load in only one direction. This usually indicates a higher load that could be a linear bearing yours has 4. You can loosen one at a time and slide it out then run it up and down the linear rail. It should feel very smooth in both directions left and right. If it feels stiffer in one direction the the bearing is failing or needs lubrication. Linear bearings are designed for thin film lubrication. Either by way of #000 grease or by a pressurized central lube pump. Simply putting oil on the linear rails is not helping at all. There are several small metal balls that recirculate inside the linear bearing through a narrow passage. If dry, they will get stuck and stall meaning the balls are no longer rolling but be dragged across the gothic arch of the rail. I highly recommend ( I am a CNC Engineer for 30 years) using grease. The grease is pumped in and pushes any dust caught under the seals back out making the internal of the bearing cleaner.
3. If the marbles do not stop after relaxing the ball nuts, you need to also check the smoothness of the X linear bearings.
McMaster Car sells the #000 grade grease on their website. Link... www.mcmaster.com/products/nlgi-no-000-grease/
You can find a modestly inexpensive manual grease pump online. Amazon has them for less than $100.
You need to install 4mm nylon tubing to replace the zerk fittings on each linear bearing. Amazon has kits but do not forget to get a manifold block so you can tie all the tubes in the main lube line.
If you have any questions feel free to ask. Glad to help.
You got 2K subscribers Jan 2024! Good video, can see your definitely sold on the Shapeoko!
I know I can't believe it! Thank you very much for checking out the video.
Super awesome review of the Shapeoko 5, it's on my list to upgrade to!
Thanks a lot!
Good review. I just got the 4x4 5 Pro with VFD, but it's still in boxes as I'm building a bench for it. Hopefully I'll fire it up this weekend. 🙂
Very nice! I have a feeling you’ll really like it.
Great video and great details! Extremely helpful! Thank you! Subbed!
Thank you very much. We’re working hard over here to provide more videos. Got more in the works.
Great video. Probably one of the best out there describing the new Shape5! I’m fairly new to the RUclips game as well! New Sub here! Good luck!
Wow thank you so much!
Trying to start a small business using this machine near future. I never had one and never used one. But this video is very helpful information. Thank you!
You’re very welcome. Thanks for watching and stay tuned, I have another cnc video coming soon!
Dude, thank you! Great tips for me, I'm trying to decide which CNC I should buy.
Awesome! You’re very welcome, there’s a lot to chose from nowadays. C3D makes some great machines.
Really nice setup you got there Brett. Looks 👌
Thank a lot!
Mine arrived today! I will start assembly right away
Congrats!
Enjoyed the content and your setup over the Husky cart. Also a little jealous, you got to mount your DC higher than mine; just didn't work out for me, lol. Check out this part I ordered in case I was able to run my DC through the ceiling to a loft/crawlspace...S & D 0440 4" Male Adapter...(keeps the pipe from falling through a hole in plywood). Peace.
Cool! Thanks a lot for checking out the vid
I'm sold! I'll be purchasing the Shapeoko Pro 5!
Awesome! Good luck and have fun!
Thank you Brett, nice review. I built mine to have a smaller footprint. Thank you for the video!
Glad it was helpful! Thanks a lot
Excellent video, definitely looking to purchase this exact one. Working on creating the room in my already full shop. Looking forward to more videos
Thanks a lot. Go check out the Shapeoko forums. People lost all sorts of creative space saving ideas.
Thank you sir for the video. I’ve been looking for videos about the shapeoko 5 since I’m looking to buy one. I keep hearing is a good machine specially for someone new. I’m retired Marine and wanted to make flags like I saw you making some in the background. I have a lot to learn. I’m sure there are headaches in that learning process. Look forward to see some of your projects in the near future and learn from them.
Thanks for watching. Semper Fi!
Excellent video, thank you! This helped me understand the machine better and what it can do. Also, being new to CNC it sounds like it's both a great machine for beginners and for advanced users so it's something that will last for a long time. The added benefit of good customer service and a complete package including software is nice too. God bless!
Thank you very much! 🙏
Thank you, thank you! Great video Brett. I look forward to future videos from you.
Glad you like them! More to come
thanks for your work on this. I am subscribed
Thank you very much!
Very thorough. Very informative Thank you for posting. Subscribed. 👍
Thanks for the sub! I really appreciate it. More to come.
Even though the machine I ordered is not a Shapeoko unit, I like hearing others thoughts on these prosumer units. Also, seeing this video made me realize that the one I have coming (Ultimate Bee-- Chinese version of a ball screw) has a similar cross frame and will require a similar spoil board setup as this one. I subscribed. Looking forward to seeing another CNC perspective that I can learn from.
Thanks a lot for watching and thanks for the sub! I’ve got some more cnc videos in the works so stay tuned.
Thanks I’m looking at renewing my old shapeoko myself
You’re very welcome. Stay tuned I have a bunch more videos in the work of the SO5 Pro
Great video! I have a Shapeoko 3 XXL, and a Shapeoko Pro (not the 5 Pro), and just about every accessory Carbide 3D sells. I love my Shapeoko's. I've had my 3 for about 6 years... I've heard others mention the noise as a "con" (it was a small con, but they did mention it).
Thank you very much! I totally agree with you. The "noise" is no big deal at all, like I said I was nit picking. Tough to find anything wrong with the cnc in my opinion.
Great video Brett. The 5 pro is still on my wishlist. Quick question, what size is the table top on your husky cart?
Thanks a lot, I really appreciate that. Here's the size and description of the tool box from Home Depot's site: "46 in. W x 24.5 in. D Standard Duty 9-Drawer Mobile Workbench Cabinet with Solid Wood Top"
I was referring to the size of the top. It looks like you put a bigger top on the cart or extended it.
Oh sorry. Yes, I added a secondary sheet of 3/4” plywood on the top. The cnc is larger than the table top of the tool box. It cantilevers over the sides by about 8 inches on each side and like 12” on the back. I added a 2x4 ledger to the back wall to help support the plywood top.
Gotcha! Thanks for the info!
Love the video! My 5 Pro 4x4 shipped today! One thing I wanted to mention, the audio in the video seems very muffled on my tv. Not so much on my laptop that I'm viewing on now. You can hear in certain parts it gets really muffled when it gets pressed up against your neck. Keep up the content!
Fun fact too looks like I got you to 500 subs!
I can’t believe it! I’m very thankful
Thank you very much. Yes I’m sorry about that, I’m working on that.
Great video. What wireless unit are you running with your tablet?
Thank you.
Thanks a lot. You mean my wifi? If so just my router from inside the house.
Hey Brett, thank you for the helpful videos you have been making!! If you had the room for the Shapeoko 5 pro 4x4 would you buy that or stay with the 4x2?
Thank you! If I had the room I would 100% get the 4x4. But I will say the 4x2 is excellent.
Hello Brett, do you recommend this machine to someone that has never work with CNC but has a lot of creativity and inspiration for small projects as well as wanting to side hustle $500 -$1000 a month?
Definitely. It’s a great beginner machine to get you up and running quickly yet it’s powerful enough for more advanced users.
Appreciate the content. Awesome information.
Thanks a lot!
Excellent Video, what kind of PC Tablet are you using, would you get the same one. Also what dust collection system do you recommend. I'm new to CNC and new to Shapeoko 5 pro user.
I got the pc tablet on Amazon, I can’t recall the brand but it was one of the cheaper one online. I have a link to it in the description. I love it, runs carbide motion perfect and touch screen is nice. I run a Fein turbo I dust extractor which is a little on the expensive side ($350) but it works awesome and is quiet. A simple shop vac will work to get started, they are just really loud. Welcome to the CNC world.
Great idea for the Husky tool box as the table for the CNC! How did you do the bench top, did you just replace the stock butcher block with a bigger thicker piece?
Thanks a lot! It’s simply a piece of 3/4” ply I’ve the top of the original butcher block top.
Nice overview, thanks. I'm surprised there's not more content on the S5Pro.
I do think the onefinity line (another ballscrew driven CNC) is a better value though. You get a machine that's been reliable and very easy to set up and use for quite a bit cheaper. Both are excellent though and you really can't go wrong with either.
Looking forward to more content, subscribed.
Thanks a lot, I really appreciate it. The Onefinity CNCs look really great no doubt about that.
The noise level on yours isn't that bad. I have seen another video where there's seemed much louder then yours.
I was going to get one of these to add to the one I already have but I wound up getting a cnc4newbie. It doesn't come with the bit setter or light or wasteboard BUT it did have free shipping which was very surprising and that probably saved about $150.
Since I'm a fan of the light, my wife bought a $7.98 LED light. I attached it under the gantry with the supplied magnets and surprisingly it does a very good job and its small enough that you really can't see the light.
Mine is gear driven but one thing different is the noise level. Its actually very quiet. If I were to put one of those VFD's on it I wouldn't hear a thing.
I still like the 5 pro though. I think its a very good deal especially with everything included.
Speaking of customer service, I use carbide create pro. I had a question about it so I called customer service. I did not let them answer since I was driving and decided to hangup. You know they actually took the time to call me BACK! Now thats service! No one ever calls back after a hangup.
Thanks for watching. I agree, CD3’s customer service is excellent.
Thank you for sharing this video. I am looking into purchasing a Pro 5. While reading up on the VFD spindle, I saw that it doesn't work well with a GFCI outlet. Did you have that issue and were you able to find a solution?
I’ve read that as well. I have mine plugged into a regular outlet so I don’t have that problem.
I had a cnc on a wooden cabinet with counter top like what is used for a kitchen sink. X and Y axis moves were very loud and also the cutting operations as well. Turns out the cabinet was acting as a resonance chamber, aka speaker box, and greatly magnified the sounds. I think your metal cabinet combined with the plywood overhangs is acting the same way. My solution was to switch to a very sturdy, open style table with a concrete slab on top and not touching any walls that it could transfer the sound into. You could also use a stone slab instead of making a concrete one. Trade off is no storage space or portability. Putting a rubber mat on the floor under the tool box will probably not help. Maybe some vibration damping pads directly under the unit would help though. You could also try insulating the walls of the underside of the cabinet top, bottom and walls with some foam glued to it.
Those are all great ideas and would definitely help. The cnc is not loud at all though, only a little on initialization but that’s normal operation. Thanks for commenting, I really appreciate it.
Nice, I just watched an install video on the 5 Pro and now your basic review...
That's almost as doing myself... good feel for my startup on the very same machine I am about to order.
swap to one of your computers with a bit more umpth than that tablet, to see if the hick up improves!
Thanks a lot for watching and good luck. I’ve run a more powerful Pc laptop and also a MacBook Pro, same results. But it’s not an issue, we’re talking like 5 seconds.
Hi Brett, Just a quick question for your tool box. Are you using just one or do you have two of them that the Shapeoko is sitting on? Thank you.. Great video..
Thanks for checking out the video. I’m just using one Husky tool cabinet. I just made a larger top for it out of 3/4” plywood.
Great! Thank you..
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Brett - great video, thank you. Is there any chance the delay you mention (at the end of the video) is caused by the tablet not having enough memory to efficiently run through the code? I was initially thinking about using my laptop, but like your idea with the tablet - as long as the delay isn't caused by the tablet.
Thanks
Thank you very much. No, it does the same thing when connected to my more powerful pc laptop and also my MacBook Pro. The tablet has been working out great but I simply use it to run Carbide Motion.
Do you use GFCI outlets in your shop? If so, do you have any issues with running the VFD spindle and what type of workaround are you using?
No, my spindle/VFD are installed on a 20amp non-gfi outlet. I’ve read the VFDs will not work on gfi protected outlets but I haven’t researched it because I was never in that situation.
Very informative, thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
hey man nice video on the machine. Can you show us what kind of maintenance steps you have to do on it? And how often? Thanks.
Thanks a lot, I really appreciate. Thanks for the idea, I’ll look into making that.
Great video. Thank you!
Glad you liked it!
Great review! thanks. Question, did you get a discount?
Thank you very much. No discount, carbide3d doesn’t have any idea I exist. I paid for this with my own money.
@@LaserGarage thank you for your reply, these days it’s hard to tell if the reviews is honest or not especially in RUclips, everybody seems like they’re getting bought out. Lol . Thanks again.
Haha yes that is true. Thank you
need 3000$ discount then have normal machine price what ewery men can build in garage only orden all same parts, rails,ballscrews,motors,motor drivers, controller,spindle and FREE better linuxcnc software.
looking at buying two Shapeoko would it make since to buy 1 5pro 2x4 and 1 xxl pro I know one has ball screws and the other don't but to save a little money just wondering do it makes sense
Totally depends on what your budget is, goals are and what you're trying produce. Are these your first CNC routers? Is this for a business you already have established or are you trying to start one up? You have enough production back log to run two machines? These are just a few of many questions you have to ask yourself to answer that question. It's a personal decision for sure.
I will say I love my S5P 2x4, it's plenty robust for me in my situation. I have owned the Shapeoko Pro in the past which is 33"x33" and belt driven. It was an awesome machine too and I never had any issues with it and made a lot of projects.
Brett have you run a cut file to carve something, If so I would like to see how and when you you set your XYZ after initializing start the job
I’ve ran many projects so far on this machine. That’s something I can definitely make a future video on.
@@LaserGarage Brett have you run any jobs that required a tool change if so what post processor did you use.
Tons. I use carbide create software for CAD/CAM, and g-code is sent to machine through carbide motion. There is no additional post processor needed. You can use whatever software you want, you’re not locked into this. But I find this easiest and it works great.
@@LaserGarage Which version carbide motion are you using and does it allow you to do tool changes if so what turns your spindal off for tool changes Thanks Jeff Peters
I’m using the latest CM version, I think it’s build 597. Tool changes are built into G-code when you design your files in CC. The spindle is turned on/off automatically via CM software, you’re prompted to change tool, afterwards the tool is measured by the bit setter and you’re off to running again.
I’m fix’s to buy that CNC. I love the tool chest solution. May I have the item number or link to that? Thanks!
Disregard, it’s in the description for anyone else looking.
Awesome thanks a lot for checking it out. You won’t be disappointed.
Do you have to buy the router or spindle separately when purchasing the shapeoko cnc?
Yes, the router and spindles need to be purchased separately. Carbide3d sells a nice compact router and of course they offer the VFD/spindle package.
I love it. Got the 4x4
Nice. I wish I had the room for that, the 4x4 was my first choice.
So the screen you added takes the place of a remote PC ?
Can is also run other programs ?
Thank you
The screen is a PC tablet with windows 11. It can run anything compatible with that OS and the PC specs.
Are you designing your pieces with that tablet or just using it to jog and control the cuts? Sorry if it's a dumb question.
No way not a dumb question. I design all my files on my laptop and basically only use the tablet to control the cnc. The tablet will run carbide create no problem but it’s a little small to do design work. I do use it occasionally to alter files slightly, like to enable/disable tool paths or change small amounts of text. Hope this helps.
Spindle is great but it would be better that it is water cooled spindle because it is dead silent and it doesn't blow sawdust everywhere.
A water cooled spindle would be great for sure. I bet Carbide 3d will come out with one for this machine, the HDM model comes with one after all. You could always go aftermarket for a water cooled option as well though. I haven't found the air cooled version to blow sawdust everywhere though.
@@LaserGarage If it doesn't blow sawdust then there is no need for water cooled one. I had 2,2KW ER20 air cooled spindle and there were such mess when I had been using it without dust shoe so I swap it with water cooled. Here is water cooled without shoe ruclips.net/video/VNEKgpAc1P0/видео.html Sawdust stays on piece so workshop is clean. Water cooled is more for hard materials like aluminum and steel because it can work with lower RPM with no impact on cooling.
I really do like your new machine. I am building machine for one my friend by my design and if I saw your video week before I probably do the way your machine is built. Your machine is really dam good looking, elegant. I like led logo it is nice touch. It is perfect for MDF and plywood (probably the best design for that kind of materials) and my friend wants to do that materials. I don't work with wood only when someone of my friends or family wants something. My hobby is designing electronics, programming microcontrollers and making hardware for machines because I have been making software for big PE for last 30 years 😥😥 and making CNCs is resting from boring job.
I wish you all the best and a lot of good work with new machine. It worth every $$ and if you work it will be precious the most important tool.
Thank you very much!
Garden hose.
Trying to figure out if I should go with the 2x4 or the 4x4. I have plenty of room.
If you have the room I’d definitely go with the 4x4. You can cut small stuff on a big cnc but you can’t cut big stuff on a small cnc (there’s tricks to do it, but it’s still easier to have a bigger machine). I love my 2x4 and it fits perfect in my space. But if I had more room I’d definitely spring for the 4x4
Looks like a good machine especially at the price point! It’s certainly not loud! If you park the machine closer to the home position at the end of the day it will make the start up next day to be much faster!😉
I agree 100%. Good tip, btw.
all good machine can run to home position and start new job next day fast. need only load job code in machine and start go home and run.
Thanks!
No problem!
Nice video Brett. Would love to swap stories and share project insights. I'm up in Redondo Beach and would love to connect.
Sounds great! Shoot me an email.
I've been researching CNC routers maybe 4 months now. I worked in machine shop, CNC and manual machines 35 years+.
Never played with a CNC router though.
I am leaning toward this Shapeoko 5, 4 x 4. My only concern, CNC machines are usually built with the Gantry the shortest distance on X or Y.
This machine, its build on the longest axis. I am wondering why it was built that way.
How is the rigidity of this gantry with it being so long?
Hi there, thanks for the comment. I can’t speak to the design intent of the machine. I can say that the gantry is very beefy and I see a lot of machines designed this way. I only machine wood but lots of people use the Shapeoko to mill aluminum or other soft metals.
@@LaserGarage
Thank for the quick reply! ( ͡❛ ͜ʖ ͡❛👍)
Does the kit come with pre cut mdf spoilboard slats?
Yes. The hybrid table comes with the mdf slats.
I ran across another one of your videos then I watched this one again. Just wanted to say thanks. That last video showed how you tapered off the edge using a 90. I haven't actually done that yet so I didn't know how. Has been kinda hard finding a demo of that. People talk about it but they don't show it. You did. Thanks!
I have a request also that NO ONE makes a video of and it would be very helpful to viewers.
I don't know how to enter ODD shaped bits into the database like a round over bit or even a 1 inch wide flattening bit.
I have asked this question before but no one seems to want to do it not realizing the potential watched views from people like me.
To start you off in case you don't know, there is a tools folder and a library folder that you can get to by opening the data directory. On a MacBook you just click on "about carbide create" and you will see the data directory button.
The library folder is used to store all your svg's (Must have separate folders) and it will show up in your library window along with all the other default .svgs's. This is very handy! The tools folder stores your tools on spreadsheets in .csv formats.
If you save a spreadsheet with nothing on it in this folder as whatever+whatever+whatever.csv (I cant remember if I used " " as an escape character for the +) it will show up in you tools menu as whatever-whatever-whatever.
On that spreadsheet you could create a table with all the headings and info of your bits (I cheated. I used the one offered by IDCwoodcraft that you can download). Close out CC and reopen. Your tools will now be able to be used.
However, using the available spreadsheet I have no idea how to enter a 10 degree tapered finishing bit with all the important info.
This lack of knowledge recently kinda of made one of my projects unsightly. I was making a wrench out of wood and I was using that same bit but I chose the 1/32 ball out of CC menu. That lack of information and choosing the wrong bit did not help CC from writing g-code that made my router dive into the wood in a couple of spots for no reason. As a result of the bit being tapered and CC not knowing that it created a couple of indents into the side of the wooden wrench I was making.
If you dive into it, it would actually be a very good video for you to make. What do you think?
Thank you very much! That is a great idea. Have you visited the carbide 3d forum and asked your question? I bet someone there could answer it.
@@LaserGarage
I will but my main concern is getting to the meat and potatoes to make a good video. As far as I can tell, I've told you more then what I've seen in any video for others to learn from.
Have you tried using a regular laptop or pc to run the programs. It could be the lag time is from the tablet. I have used an Apple air and a windows laptop on my 4xl and there is a different in response time between the two.
Yes, I’ve used both a PC and Mac laptop to run cuts. The time it takes for the cnc to start moving as I described in the video is the same. Thanks for the comment.
Which water cooled spindle would you recommend? Also does Pro make a 2x4 machine?
Not sure about water cooled, I’ve only used the C3d air cooled spindle. Love it though. The largest shapeoko pro is the xxl, which is about 33”x33” bed size.
I have an openbuilds 1515 (4'x4' cutting area)... so far, I really enjoy it and it works very well. I'm not sure if this would be considered an upgrade from mine?
I'm not familiar with those CNCs but after looking them up online they seem pretty nice.
@@LaserGarage I know their support has been fantastic. I've never waited more than a couple business hours for a response to my support requests. That's a huge selling point for me with any company.
Wonder what the difference is between this and the carve pro 4x2
I’m not familiar with the carve pro 4x2 so not sure.
I just got the same machine. I also had a great experience with their customer support. I got a bad controller (you can read up about this on their site) that was part of a bad batch of PCBs they got from their supplier. They next day’d me out a new controller and I was back up and running inside of 48 hours.
I went with a raspberry pi and 10” touch screen as a controller. It’s a bit more expensive than the windows tablet in this video but it won’t install updates without me telling it to, it’s super reliable (SSD storage instead of flash), very low power requirements, and no built in battery that will eventually die on me.
If anyone is looking for help setting a raspberry pi up as a controller I’m happy to help for free. If I get interest I might make a doc on how to set it up.
Awesome thanks a lot. My VFD board went out about a month ago. Same story, awesome customer service. Was back up with a new part in just a couple days.
can you tell me what size table top you built for your CNC?
Sure, 61”x37”
@@LaserGarage
Thanks so much
Can you advise if you would still recommend the Husky tool chest as a base, or would you change to something more stable? Trying to get my ducks in a row before ordering one the cnc. Thanks for the video and tips.
I still love it. The Husky is on casters yes but I have a ledger board (2x4) screwed into the back wall and the plywood top is attached both the ledger and to the Husky top. Very stable.
One thing I am going to change soon is to add some foam mats underneath the CNC to further help with vibrations. Not 100% necessary because I've been fine without it up until now but I figure it will only help. A lot of people recommend doing this on the Carbide 3d official forum.
Thanks for the quick response. I think will use your ideas for my base. Thanks again.
Do you mind providing the dimensions of the added plywood top and case to the left. My 4x2 came in, but I'm waiting on the spindle. I'm trying to get things ready... Any help would be much appreciated.
also wondering if you have surfaced your spoil board and did it need to be thanks Jeff Peters
Yes I’ve surfaced the spoil board. Tramming looked spot on for my needs so no adjustment was needed on that end.
There are ER20 2.2kw watercooled spindles + VFD for half the price
Subscribed 👌🏻
Definitely not doubt about it. Being new to spindles/vfd’s I appreciate buying a kit directly from C3D that they warrant. You’re right though.
@@LaserGarage I like your content. Cool channel 🙌🏻
Thank you very much!
I wonder if the new lag time has more to do with your $150 tablet and not the CNC?
No it’s not the tablet. The cnc functions the same with my nice PC laptop or my MacBook Pro. It’s not a big deal, just a little “thinking” time when starting a project.
Good review
Thank you very much!
do you have plans for your toolbox setup?
No sorry. It’s just a piece of plywood on top of a tool box basically.
Putting a power APC / line conditioner on the power supply will reduce the noise from the servos. The tubes are acting as a solo cup / amplifying the noises.
Interesting. Thank you
Hey buddy
Did you have to level your wast bed with a flatting bit?
My waste boards are all un even so should I run a flatting tool path first before doing any projects?
regards, rick
Hey! I didn’t flatten initially, I was to excited get up and running. I have done it since though as I showed in my waste board video. To be honest I’m not ever doing anything that requires extreme precision so I don’t know how important it is. All my slats have been flat enough front the factory. Make sure they are all screwed down the same, having some loose and some tight will change their height.
@@LaserGarage
Heres the problem
The Metal Track under the Waste boards have tapered screw holes but the tapers are different depths wich is making those tapered screws stick out beyond the metal track in some areas making the waste board be un even.
Im going to contact support but wanted to know if you have this problems with your aluminum track?
regards, Rick
Oh I see. No I didn’t have that problem with the countersunk holes. They’re aluminum, you should be able to run a countersink bit on the bad ones to fix it real quick.
@@LaserGarage
OK Well im going to contact Tech support first just to make sure I don't void my warranty
Best, Rick
Can I use fusion360 for cad & cam? Or perhaps fusion360 for cad only? I just learned f360 and want to use that for design
Yes you can use fusion 360 for both cad/cam. I don't have any experience with it but I know it's possible.
Do you have a link of where you purchased your Shapeoko??
www.Carbide3d.com
Im in the market for one. What are your thoughts vs the Longmill and Vetric software?
Can’t say for sure really because I’ve never used either. But…I have looked at the Longmill, seems like a great machine and Sienci Labs seems like a cool company. Vectric is powerful software and there’s a huge community that uses it, I’m sure it’s fantastic. You will pay for it though from what I understand.
No idea on the longmill, but I only use vectric software for my projects. I love them, but unless you plan on doing 3d carves you can get by with easier, cheaper software
Nice review.
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks.
Can you use that router on the Pro xxl?
Yes, the C3d spindle can be used on the pro and the Shapeoko 4 also. It can be used on the earlier machines also but I think it requires a z axis upgrade.
Just subscribed. Commenting for the algo.
Thanks Chris!
Does the spindle speed get controlled in gcode, not just on and off?
Spindle on/off and rpm’s are controlled by gcode.
How does this compare to the Onefinity with the Masso controllers?
Sorry I’m not sure, I’ve never used a Onefinity. Looks like a great machine though.
The onefinity do not come with a waste board, so you have to make your own and add that to the price. I watched about 10 videos on the onefinity and the machine was sent to the RUclipsrs. The "reviews" were kinda bias. Not saying that Carbide 3D do not do it to, they all do it. You have to make your own research and not trust influencers. Influencers are part of the marketting dept. 🤣
I did research for more then 12 months before I pick the Shapeoko3 XL 5 years ago. Have zero regret, the Carbide 3D support and forum is fantastic. Speaking of support, I watched a video on Onefinity channel and asked two questions. They never replied. 😁
@@Marcus_Caius I bough t my first cnc from carbide in 2017 and then replaced it with the 4 pro to get a bigger cutting area and now I bought the 4x4 5pro also for a bigger cutting area. I build custom Cabinets Drawers and MDF shaker style cabinet doors out of one piece of 3/4" thick MDF Jeff Peters
not can compare, masso have worst controller , if burn one axis need buy all new controller expensive and stupid, need be machine were controller have simple change and lot cheapen, etc, mesa card, or paraller port card.
I have the 4x4 pro The noise you hear out of the machine when it is running is caused buy the ball screws and that is because they are hollow
Interesting I didn’t know that. Thanks for the comment.
@@LaserGarage The ballscrews are not hollow
Thanks for clearing that up.
tbh, the price is a bit absurdly high, no doubt it is a good machine, but its expensive especially compared to the onefinity elite where you get the masso g3 touch controller for roughly the same price
Onefinity CNCs are definitely awesome machines. If I had the room I’d definitely get one as well. I’m not sure that they are less expensive though. Once the price of a spindle, waste board, tool setter, and software are added.
@LaserGarage 1f machines just seem cheaper because their pricing is 'a la carte'. Once you add everything up, they're more expensive. Source: I own both
It sounds like a dental xray machine. thanks man!
lol never heard that before! Thanks for watching.
Really nice job. Just enough info and duration of your video
Much appreciated!
Anyone selling a pro 2x4 from Long Island ny or close by?
Try asking on the carbide 3d forum. They have a classified section.
same cost than onefinity but lot better rails and spindle and lot better motors,and screws, have good machine buy if Vcarve software include whit machine.
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Without a doubt you are doing this video on behalf of shapeoko. Just the way you are talking
I wish. I’m a big fan of their CNCs, as I said I’ve had two of them now. Just trying to help people who are interested. When I bought this there were no videos of the machine.
@@LaserGarage ok well on another note. Its from usa and im in uk. Must be we have european manufacturing of similar machines just as good.
Also i want 4th axis
Good luck in your search and thanks for watching!
I really wanted to watch this video, but the sound issues were too much. So bad 😞
You get what you pay for. Sorry to disappoint
2 words- better mic
What do you recommend?
why waste money ower 4000$ buy cnc machine because normal men can build own lot better cnc machine DIY in home easy, this money can buy 4 pcs lot better machine if make DIY. better rails,better motors,FREE software, good machine but 4 machine price have. why need waste lot money if same or better can build lot cheapen in garage.
Thanks a lot for watching and for all the comments.
I cannot understand why they moved the bitsetter. It was in the perfect pace in 4Pro. “oh, just take it off if you need to mill there” - like, what?
I’m not sure why they decided to move it but I don’t have a problem with it. I like how the diameter of it is bigger. You only need to move it if you surface the waste board. It doesn’t affect anything else such as loading a 4’ wide board.