How To Undercoat Your Car With Fluid Film
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- In this video I show you a basic tutorial on how to undercoat your car with Fluid Film. Fluid film is a lanolin based rust and corrosion preventative. I used Fluid Film's professional spray gun it comes with 3 1qt bottles, 2 different hose extensions, and the gun itself. You will need an air compressor to use the gun. Any compressor over 10 gallons will run this gun. I use about 1qt to about 1.5qts of Fluid Film per vehicle depending on the size of the vehicle and the amount sprayed. The vehicle that I am spraying in the video is brand new with about 150 miles on it. I plan on giving yearly updates about the condition of the vehicle before an application every year. Fluid Film cleans up with water and does not harm most rubber like waste oil. Fluid Film is environmentally friendly and biodegradable. Here are links to a couple types of Fluid Film and a couple of spray guns if you choose the liquid version. Thanks for watching.
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What flashlight do you use? Do you recommend it?
Yotve can use it on brake lines and rubber hoses. I've been using it for decades with no swelling of rubber.
A cheaper alternative would be to buy a Subaru. All the oil leaks coat the frame and BOOM, free rust prevention.
as a Subaru owner I can confirm this I no longer have to undercoat because the oil and tranny leaks keep everything nice and lubed up
Try any modern BMW's...the front k member gets in the way of the oil pan gasket..99% of high mileage (+100k miles) xdrive's leak there.
great thanks.. what model do you recommend?!
Agreed! Except for older models where the rear is a rusty hell. Front is perfect from oil leaks. Back is rusty everywhere.
I personally like the 4 lines of cv boot grease I have in the front from my transmission mount going out still drives and no rust atleast majorly with 240k.
interesting. A question for you: since it comes off with water, it means it'll come off in a normal car wash?
My before and after using Fluid Film ruclips.net/video/aKaC6QJSSUA/видео.html
Best to put on in late fall for here where I live in Altantic Canada. 3 years can rust out a rocker pannel on New cars. We drill the holes in and shot the rust coat inside any place we think will rust. It Makes a HUGE difference and better then Rust check. We also see RAW salt being put on our roads. Because we get a lot of Ice storms. This stuff has saved many of my cars over the past 30 years. Spray it on. Drive on a dirty dusty road. It will not wash off so easily esp in once the temp is below 5 degree C. 40 f.
I think I have watched every tutorial on applying Fluid Film and must say you have the best one. You are articulate/knowledgeable, which is enhanced by great quality video. I don't have a lift, so I find doing it on a grass surface makes moving around a lot easier + less messy on overspray too, as does using ramps for better access. I have a few things I do which seem to help, like using a heater to get FF to a viscosity that makes spraying move effective, especially on a cool fall day. Other things I do, like using my drill with attachment to mix it well and using a light is a must have if you don't use a lift.
P.S. You have a new subscriber.
Spraying in the grass is a good idea. The only downside is not being able to use a creeper. I put plastic down only because I don't want to wash out the bay after every car I coat. I will keep your heater idea in mind. I still have a few people that want vehicles coated before winter and it is beginning to get rather cold out in my currently still un-uninsulated shop.
Thanks for the complements and thanks for subscribing.. When you have a lift it makes getting good shots that much easier.
I don't know if it's my age or my trucks, but I'm finding it harder to fit under my truck when changing my oil and even with the ramps, I have just enough room to spray my frame, so a creeper couldn't be used. I wish my garbage was as large as yours, especially in the the colder months.
@RepairGeek what compressor do you use im going bananas 🍌 trying to figure it out
Thank you, for the great video, I recently bought used 2005 Toyota Sequoia with 130k, which already has some rust underneath. The frame and lower control arms was replaced new under Toyota recall because of rusting issue. I would consider using the Fluid film to protect the new frame. Question for other areas that have rust, like the rear axle quit rusty and some rust under body panels would you suggest using Fluid film on the rusted area or another product to prevent more rust. Do I have to scrap off the rust first? Would appreciate any advice.
If you scrape off any loose rust it will work better. If the vehicle has a lot of scaley rust the FF will flake off with the scale. Just hit any scale with a stiff wire brush and coat it with FF.
It's strange how the SDS for Fluid Film does not list Lanolin as an ingredient?
I agree with other comments, best explanation on how to, and where to...👍👍 You did remember to spray the frame where your lift pads sat?
Should try Amsoil HD Metal Protectant - it's not oily, it leaves a thin wax like coating that does not wash off and does not attract dirt.
I have been curious about that stuff. You really can’t coat inside the frame, doors, and rockers with it though. And it only comes in 9oz aerosol cans
Awesome, if you have a lift.
Will this stuff drip on the driveway after applying days weeks months etc
Just did my 2019 4runner, with all the same tools, minus the lift. It was alot easier than I was anticipating. Paid $89.50 for the kellersport gun, no complaints.
Did you just crawl under the vehicle on jack stands?
@@kevinjames4072 I didn't even use jack stands, just got underneath it, surprisingly didn't even get that dirty. I picked up a 2020 Tacoma, this fall yea I'm going to get jackstands on all 4 corners and try it that way. Only thing was, make sure you don't have the nozzle on gun to tight, otherwise the material won't come out. I didn't get all crazy and try to get in the body. I focused on frame and metal parts I could see. The fluid film is still on it right now, pretty impressed.
It comes off within a few days of driving in wet conditions? That doesn't sound good.
Great informational + tut video. I've been using Fluid Film for a couple of years now and am very happy. Except I have ti lie on my back on a creeper to get it done. A car lift and a bigger garage would be really nice.
Thanks for watching.
Damn only one quart? I had to use two and a half gallons on my truck to get everything coated. It's a 1983 K30 with a custom flatbed there is a lot of surface area though. So far it had worked great.
I also used a whole gallon on my f-150 and that was only for the frame/suspension the rest is aluminum. Did you use the same gun as in the video? I think my cheap gun doesn't atomize the fluid film enough and that would explain my high consumption.
@@ylastchance Yeah I used the same gun. It's the "pro" version they sell. Depending on how you have it set it will go through it fast. I guess I have mine set to spray a lot. Which is fine with me, I would rather spend $100 a year on fluid film and get to keep my truck, you know.
What about calipers?
Do you mask or cover the rotor first?
I wonder also about the electrical connectors/wiring, the transmission pan/bolts, differential cover/bolts, anything that may require service. Mechanics probably hate the mess when working with greasy parts.
Best video so far on FF. I shot some FF in spray cans, but getting the wand to apply it from cans to get into my frame rails on my 2001 4Runner. The best stuff for rust, low odor and no solvents!
The low odor is a matter of opinion, my girlfriend cannot stand the smell. I don't really mind it myself. Glad you liked the video.
It will work. I used it on my 89 4Runner for years, and also used the little 360 degree spraying wand for inside the frame and it never rusted after 30 winters with road salt. Keep doing it annually.
Nice work. Good clear instructions. I like that you removed the spare tire, and you wore a mask. A buddy of mine sprayed cars for years with all kinds of products. Now he's battleling leukemia.
The best job I have seen applying undercoating the body shop removed the interior door panels. He likened it to painting a bedroom with your arm through the window.
You should consider an exhaust fan to clear the air.
Does anyone do this without a lift? Seems like a nightmare otherwise.
Great video!
I noticed that the bolt heads on the bottom the vehicle on which you demonstrated Fluid Film are white. Where can I buy white-headed bolts?
This should be done at the factory.
Does anyone know why I feel more bouncing and thud while going over speed bump after spaying undercoat?
Ain't film, replace your shocks or struts.
What prep work did you do before applying? and 1 year later when you re-coat, what kind of prep work did you do?
Nice video man! I see so many vehicles where it's just caked on and super thick, less is more when using this stuff, great tutorial!
To a point, spraying something like a gallon to me seems pointless. At a certain point it starts to drip off the vehicle, make a mess, and waste money.
FYI- Fluid Film is a water based product, it contains zero petroleum products...which means to describe it as an 'oil film' is misleading as in the video...
Go look at the SDS sheet section 3.
if it's a unibody car, what are the areas to spray?
Are you able to spray over minor corrosion?
Absolutely. It's it supposed to keep rust from spreading if you already have rust.
Hi
I am in Denmark and can't get the items shipped through Amazon. However, I have found a dealer that sells the products here and has a variety of them such as Liquid A, Liquid AR, NAS and some others.
Can you please tell me which one you are demonstrating in your video and which one do I need to buy for my car?
Thanks in appreciation.
NAS. The other products are thicker and won't go through the gun.
@@RepairGeek Thanks for hjemme reply. I hope I can do it.
Many years ago they calmed a similar process called rustproofing
Doesnt the overspray get all over the garage and car ?
Yep
Any idea on how to apply Fluid Film if you don't have a lift
Use a jack and jack stands. It's no different than going under the car to change oil. You're just under the car longer.
Now I need a lift to do my own...
Great video and very informative. Just wondering how many gallon of FF is needed to finish one car. Thanks
its not petroleum base its wool wax from sheep oil lanoline, good video by the way though
You are 100% correct. I mis-spoke and thanks.
If you look at FF MSD 1st Ingredient is highly refined petroleum
Yeah, was gonna say, it's a blend.
Can I use this on an undercarriage a few years old? I have a 2015 explorer and my undercarriage is in good shape but has some obvious wear mostly just a little external rusting on bolts and just dirty.. can I still spray this all over or does it only really work on fresh clean metal? I’ve always used this on my doors but unfortunately never did anything with my undercarriage when I bought my car.. also is it safe to spray on links, sway bar, bushings etc or just stick to frame and axel ?
Any updates on that one year review of this application? Would be nice to see how it held up. Great video btw.
It should be out in a couple of weeks.
Hard to believe I can't find one place in MN to do a undercoating for me, I know in Canada they have businesses that do... looks like I'm doing it myself
How often do you clean the undercarriage if the vehicle then? I find myself still spraying the undercarriage down still and just re applying. My main concern is the brine/salt “marinating” on the body/frame
I have a 3 yr old truck. How do you prep the interior of the frame members before an oil based coating?
Drive it down a dirt road after a few day. Let’s it creep than the dirt locks it in place.🇨🇦
Love the video, but I live in Ontario Canada, we like it dripping up here
Awesome video brother.
I'd wear a tyvek bunny suit for this. At least a shower cap might be nice.
What is the tube he picks up out of the fluid film bucket? Is it something used to load the product into the spray gun?
Thats Amazing!! =D
Mustang is gunna need a wash. Should have put some plastic over it.
Should I be worried if I have a 2020
Toyota Tacoma? Or
Excellent video and links very helpful . . . thank you!
Awesome vid, great knowledge to be had, love this.
Heat it up before you spray it on so it creeps into everything
Fluid film make a version called "liquid ar", its much more heavy duty, thick like wheel bearing grease, it last much longer, its sold mainly for marine and offshore use, so it's not pushed commercially like the normal fluid film (nas)
I saw that stuff on their website. I am curious about that stuff. Like you said it's thicker but they do not recommend ar for automotive undercoating. I'm thinking it's too thick to spray correctly.
To spray it it either needs heating or thinning and put a few coats on to build up, I use it a lot now, was sick of how the normal fluid film washed off so quickly, and can brush it on real thick in the wheel arches. It still creeps just as good as the normal stuff.
Good to know. I'll have to look into it when I need some more
@@RepairGeek Pick up a professional undercoating gun, one that actually pressurizes the bottle and it should push the heavier stuff just fine. With the number of vehicles and equipment I need to maintain for my business, I opted to buy a professional $300 kit. Great purchase.
What about overspray on the car? Is that a problem?
Awesome videos.. All of them on your channel.
Should it be used on transmission and oil pan? and Aluminum parts?
You can spray them. The heat may make it run and fall off. It just depends on how hot the pans get.
Can it hurt the front door radio speakers on a 2000 toyota camry
So, is it water based or petroleum product then.
How come you chose fluid film over CRC?
Blaster surface shield works better.
Looks like you sprayed the boots on your front suspension.
what gun did you buy to shoot fluid film, The reviews tell of the hose not working (material too thick) or the spray nozzle of the hose not fanning out.
I went to their site and they said it could be thinned with vegetable oil and it flowed better at higher temps
I do not to get stuck with a gun and hose that does not work.
WHICH ONE DOES?
I have the professional gun that I linked in the pinned comment and the description.
When you fluid film your vehicle, do you ever bother washing your undercarriage? I do a good amount of offroading and I worry the fluid film will just attract more grime, but I also worry I'll just undo my fluid film spray after one undercarriage wash
I just wash the wheel wells. I ignore the undercarriage and just spray more the following fall.
Wish the bottom of my truck looks like that
Can I put it on my transmission and transfer case to prevent corrosion ?
Yes.
@@RepairGeek great thanks, I’m a big advocate for rust prevention, I live in ma and I got a southern 06 Duramax and I am trying my best to get my undercoating done as best as I can, I got the air gun and the fluid film. Any tips on making sure I get as much protected as possible… I have watched all your videos on this subject and I trust you as the primary source of knowledge on this subject lol.
1 does it make sense that I coat my truck at this time in the season with fluid film to get all the fresh metal and pinch welds saturated with the runny hot fluid film in the summer then recoat with wool wax/ surface shield again just before winter for the proper wash resistance? I recall that surface shield was the best since it leaves the petroleum jelly on the surface once the lanolin washes away
2 are you and if so how are you tackling engine bay rust prevention (I’ve seen trucks around here with terrible looking engines) I am going to assume I can spray as much exposed metal as I can other than the engine block, heat shields and exhaust ect. Though you did say that can mess up some rubbers I guess I’d have to be careful
If you have the time to answer Thanks for the help I appreciate it and so does my truck
1) if it has existing surface rust you may need to coat it again before winter. The rust is porous and the products will soak into that rust like paint on fresh drywall. Use the product of your choice, I would just pick one and run with it.
2) you can't hurt much on the engine. There's no need to spray rubber or plastic parts. I open the hood, hit the top of the frame on each side of the engine, and spray inside the front edge of the hood.
What is better Fluid Film or WoolWax?
Trying to decide between black and regular fluid film on my new 4runner. Any advantage to one or the other?
Just looks. Performance is the same
Where is your body shop i need for my car
Wow the bottom of your vehicle looks straight from the show room! How do you paint the chassis without painting over the nuts and bolts? You just use a brush?
It's a brand new vehicle lol. He said so at the end of the video.
Hi, this is a great video. Is there anything underneath the truck you should avoid spraying, for example the exhaust system?
Not really I've had no issues going on 3 years now. Weatherstripping will swell up if it gets FF on it. Other rubber parts are fine.
Can I spray it over already rusted surfaces? Or that will make things worse? I want something that binds to the rust
You can, just make sure there is no loose flakey rust on the surface.
Make your own, It`s not in the automotive industries interest to sell products that make your car not rust, If after a few weeks it washes off, I would not buy it
It was never developed or marketed by the automotive industry. This is right off the Fluid Film website:
When the U.S. Navy needed to conquer the costs and delays of battling rust and corrosion in the ballast tanks of its thousands of combat and support vessels in World War II, an innovative West Coast chemist formulated a powerful weapon based on an unlikely ingredient: lanolin (wool wax).
Agree with all who point out the high quality and articulate-ness of this video. Well done!
What type/size air compressor can a do-it-yourselfer get away with using this material?
I wouldn't use a compressor less than 10 gallons. You will spend more time waiting for air than spraying.
If you need to use tbis product every yr. Whats the point. Ill keep looking for a one time deal.
Even POR-15 isn't a one and done and that takes tons of prep, is toxic, and has to be painted on with brushes.
can you damage your front door speakers by spraying fluid film or woolwax in the doors or is it better to remove the speakers first
You can't spray speakers with any liquid or oil, but they should be covered by factory.
Do I have to remove the rust. My Vic is a 2006 and it has a little bit of rust.
Nope, it's a rust inhibitor. You want to run an undercarriage spray either with a pressure washer or run it through a carwash with undercarriage spray. Apply the Fluid Film when surface is clean and dry.
Could you use that Fluid Film kit with that little air Compressor you had in your other video?
Also when you were using the Fluid Film gun .....did you use a regulator? what setting did you have it on?
You could use the little 3 gallon compressor but, the issue is how much time do you want to wait for the pressure to build back up? With something that small you will spend more time waiting for air than you will spraying. Like the lugnut demonstration from the other video. Personally I wouldn't use anything smaller than 10 or 15 gallons.
In this video I was using my 26 gallon Quincy set at about 40 or 50 psi. The pressure will vary between 40 and 60 because the viscosity of Fluid Film changes so much with temperature.
AWESOME VIDEO THANKS FOR GREAT INFORMATION AND VIDEO !!!
What PSI is your air compressor set at when coating?
60-80 psi
wow you do a great job. I would like to start doing this myself but outside on the grass not so much fun. I do cleand under my vehichels alot all that wet sand and mud has got to go. I get them oil sprayed once a year from shop and fluid film on and off with raddle cans and I do my atv. flud film is the best
Thanks for watching.
So what do you recomend for a truck that has rust on it ? i know you have to wire brush it . But does this prevent more rust when spraying over rust ? ame question for crc product and what one do you think is better ?
should you use rust cutter first ? it seems like the crc was better in your other video at staying on metal ?
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We use this stuff @ work on our Coast Guard Helicopters. It has been about a year now. Still planning on doing a follow up?
I just filmed the follow up yesterday. It will be my next video.
Awesome!
@ 6:27, you also sprayed the cv boot. Are you going to wipe the fluid film off the rubber boot?
Nope. That boot has grease inside it. It won't be affected.
@@RepairGeek Just picked up a 2020 Tacoma off road from the dealer yesterday. I'm going to do the rust proofing myself. Thanks for the info.
He’s cute
You should totally do the challenge comparing fluid film to the competitive product!!!
can't wait to see your follow up video for your FF undercoating.
Hopefully in a few weeks it will be up.
How to clean gun after use? Mineral Spirits? or Degreasers?
Water is fine, though Fluid Film says you don't need to clean it as it never dries.
If you run hot water through the gun, it works really well and fast.
I’ve been using Fluid Film on my vehicles for a few years now and it is well worth it!
Thanks for watching.
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That car looks brand new
Ah it is new
Was your truck undercoated prior to applying the Fluid Film? Just wondering, I want to do it this year but my Jeep has an undercoat already
No it wasn't. It only had 150miles on it at this point. It may soften rubber undercoating but, I have never had an issue with the other cars that I have coated that we're previously undercoated.
Repair Geek ok thanks. Do you think applying FF before winter is a better strategy than just power washing underneath every week during winter? Seems that if I apply it that I cant do both since it’ll just come off
Alvin V correct. It really comes down to how much work you want to do. Personally I think you will end up with a better result using FF with less work overall than washing it constantly.
Will a pump sprarier work?
I don't think so
Very good information and video, interested in how well it works over time.
I'm going to do an update video this fall with the same truck.
Are you doing the doors with FF? Also are you power washing the undercarriage prior to applying next years coat or just spraying over the dirt and FF from last year?
Yes I spray the doors. I never wash the undercarriage and continue spaying more and more on top each year. No issues.
@@RepairGeek Thanks. Good to know. Great info. BTW I saw another video where you are doing a Woolwax comparison. I’ve learned first hand from someone in the business that Woolwax is a knock-off product. I wouldn’t use your vehicle to test it.
@@Mac-i7 i did my own testing on it using my pole test before I ever sprayed it on my vehicle.
@@RepairGeek ok good. I had found out that the makers of Woolwax were distributors for FF who went out on their own and tried to copy the FF formula but never really got it right. Basically it’s a knockoff product. I realize your channel is about helping others so I wanted you to know my discovery first hand.
@@Mac-i7 they went out of their way to create a product that was better for the specific application of undercoating cars - and they successfully achieved that.
can I apply fluid film after the power wash or do I need to wait to dry?
4:17 clean and dry
@@mikeyellen362 unbelievable.
@@mikeyellen362 Spectacular.
Are u ex army ...boy
Haha nope. No military service.
what kind of Fluid Film do you used in the Video?
NAS. That's what they recommend for vehicle undercoating.
@@RepairGeek I had to google it www.fluidfilm.co.nz/fluid-film-nas.html
If it's oil, how is it water soluble?
It's not an oil, it's lanolin based.
It's lanolin, which is the natural wax from sheep's wool, diluted into a light petroleum. It's a mix of lanolin and oil. It's not water soluble.
Will this wreck paint
Nope. Will not harm it at all.
@@RepairGeek thank you my brother numsi
is it black color ?
No it's a transparent amber color.