@@Dr_Angry Found out, that on b450 probably aint going to cut it, have to upgrade my MB...So not sure if ill sell it and do the 550, or wait. Probably sell the MB because i don't want to spend the extra on ram on next gen and i don't need it.
This type of testing should be done at stock settings. Most users will not locked their frequency or play around with curve optimizer or over and under volting.
Yeah, I like how the presenter initially shows the 5950 and 5900 clocks go to 4.9 and 4.8ghz respectively and then procedes to bench them at all-core 4.7 OC.... the percentage of people that run their 5950x/5900x at OC settings is probably less than 10%. Pretty unrealistic. My 5800x does 5.04 Ghz on 7 cores while gaming and would be just as dumb to show in a comparison video. OCs are PER PART, not all parts that are made so just because the presenters samples do what they do it not indicative of....anything. Complete and utter waste of time for general consumption other than their own personal interest. They should have put 1 of them on LN2 just for extra dumb-ness.
I have the 5950x and the 5800x3d as im building rig for a mate (the 5800x3d), I ran the rx6950xt on both cpu`s, IF you activate precision boost overdrive the 5950x wins .. and my temp on a 360 aio has been arround 65c.. Specs for both systems, crosshair hero VIII, 32 gb ddr4 3600 (corsair), 1000w psu, m2 drive. The point is the 5900 and 5950 are for overall performance (if you do other cpu intensive stuff) and if you just wanna game the 5800x3d will run just fine, especially at 1080p or 1440p ! SAVE THE MONEY FOR A BETTER GPU OR FASTER RAM !
Great test. At 1440P which is what I care about... The 5800x3d only outperforms my 5900x current CPU in a couple games. Not worth the swap. Thanks for helping me decide this with real world benchmarks.
Yup, came here for the same comparison, there's been some price drops here and there for the 5800X3D, and I'm also on 5900X. This cleared things up for me, not swapping out.
it depends alot tho.. but the 5900x is cheaper then the 5800X3D when its almost the same... some games it wins.. some games it looses.. just like the 5800x3d sooo i guess the 5900x is the best bet since it has more cores so its also great for editing and other stuff not just gaming
@@thegamingbird101 7000 series seems like a good performance leap but the prices don’t justify the amount of cores tbh…better to get 12 core 5900x for $350 than a 6 core 7600x for $300. Sure it wins on single core performance but that’s it. 6, even 8 cores is just not gonna be enough for the years to come in gaming.
I don’t trust these gaming benchmarks. It’s either these gaming benchmarks are correct or AMD and other independent reviewers benchmarks are absolutely wrong with their claim that the Ryzen 5800X3D is the best gaming chip is absolutely wrong
i think 5800x3D wont be as good on 1080p but rather better on QHD and even better on UHD resolutions because of the higher cache capacity. Like i dont know what differences therea are beside increasing L3 cache, but you cannot compare that chip to other chips that have higher clocks and 4-8 respecitvely more cores. and both cpus 5900x and 5950x have 64MB of L3 cache which is only 1/3 less which i am not surprised that performance doesnt hold much up to it. Perhaps if you were to compare 5600/3600x or 11700h with X3D... But what this cpu can do is load more essential stuff into its cache which will be more than 10x faster than reading it from the DRAM
@@knightnxk2906 in fact quite the contrary, 1080p is where the cpu matters, 2k and 4k are less intensive on the cpu and a lot more on the gpu and vram, thats why most of the benchmarks at those resolutions are almost identical, plus the 96mb cache on the 3d against the 64mb on the 59xx cant outweigth the cons: no overclocking and lower core/thread count The real winner here price/perfomance is the 5900x atm (360-390usd)
"Best gaming chip" claim is not important, but I see conflicting results like X3D GTA V being slower than regular Zen 3 or R6 results vs other reviewers.
@@deafno i mean you need to ask yourself is it much of an improvement with increased 32mb cache only? r9 chips have more cores and higher clock speeds and still retain 2/3 of the full 3D cache capacity. only wailt comparission would be against regular r7 5800x and r5 5600x and last 11th gen intel cpus (since 12th gen are new and and 5000 series cant really compare fairly against them unitl 7000series comes out)
Thank you for including 4K benchmarks! I understand that we are mostly GPU bottlenecked at this resolution but I game at this resolution and I want to see how different CPUs compare on benchmarks at this resolution to find out if it's worth to upgrade the CPU. I have a 5950X and a 3090. It doesn't look like it's worth it for me to get a 5800X3D.
i have a 5900x and a 3080. Game at 4k. You think I should upgrade to a 7950x or a 13900k or just upgrade to a 4090. I'd rather just upgrade the GPU, but wondering if I'll get any benefit upgrading the CPU to the ones I mentioned. I also have gskill cl 14 3800mhz 32 gb of ram of Samsung bdie.
@@rindrasi With your set up (5900X & 3080), I won't even consider upgrading at all this year or next year. But if you really want to upgrade, the GPU will be the most logical choice.
I game at 4k too with a 6950xt and will be upgrading my r5 3600 to the 5800x3d, should be good for years to come until am5 prices come way down and am5/ddr5 maturity as well.
@@xellaz same. I also have the 5900 and 3080 and at this point I will probably hold out until a 5000 series RTX GPU releases then go to the Ryzen 9 7900/50x and DDR5. Basically I'm done for now until I have to change sockets with a new motherboard.
I have the 5950x and just upgraded to RTX 4090. I’m seriously contemplating getting the 5800X3D since I only use my pc for gaming and listening to high res lossless music files through Roon/Qobuz. I don’t do any productivity work. I also strictly game at 4k with and without DLSS. From what I’ve seen, even at 4k which is mostly gpu bound, the 5800x3D is still getting a good bit better 1% lows and in several games higher fps. I’ve never changed out a CPU before. Mostly just PSU and GPUs. I believe it’s pretty simple, you just have to make sure and clean off the remaining thermal compound from the heat sink with alcohol and reapply enough thermal grease after cleaning. The 5800X3D can be had for under 400 now and is in stock most places.
5900X is clearly the over all winner when it comes to gaming performance/price and 5900X is better suited editing etc with 12 cores. Good job with the video!
if you overclock the 5800x3d it beats them all by 20 to 30 and sometimes 40 frames. If you get 4.7ghz out of the 3d it wins everytime. In flight sim i was getting 12 more fps that a 5950
@@Holyspiritrecieved Uhhh .. you won't be able to overlock it unless you have a very specific MSI motherboard, and doing so is most definitely at your own peril.
no these benchmarks are completely wrong. the 5800x3d is way way better in terms of gaming performance. but the 5900x and 5950x are better in productivity.
i disagree went from a 5900x to 58003d and in world application performance the 3d out performs like crazy... not in cinabench but just overall workstation usage is far better. Smoother due to the cache size
Thanks for the 5900X vs 5800X3D 4K comparison! They're on sale for the same price right now but so torn as to which is most suitable for my needs as I do some coding/video conversion as well.
@@MakeSh00t This video is sadly useless, 5900x or 5950x aren't in the video at all, let alone OCd. Almost no reviewers benchmarked OC 5900x vs the X3D, including the main ones HWU and GN. The cache benefit is obvious in a few games and those are obvious, but in everything else the difference is much smaller than claimed, even more at 1440p, which again is rarely tested by the big reviewers "to show the difference in CPU performance" which in the end doesn't matter for a consumer that uses higher resolution.
I think for gaming the 5800x3D will be better over the years since people will use more upscaling and games will be less optimized. And dont forget what it was intended for: Boosting up to like almost 10y old systems without having to change every part, not being the top of the tops. The socket support from AMD + the power usage for the performance are just amazing. I run it on my b450 a pro max with a peerless assassine 120se cooler and it uses slightly more power than my former 5600g while being under 70°C while gaming in a hot room.
@@JayzBeerz i saw some going for 250-300$ on used market. still an amazing deal if you ask me. if you can get it for half of what the 7900/7950x are going for . But when you opt in the mobo cost and ram, it's not that worth it anymore haha. Sticking with last gen cpu is prob the best for now for amd and maybe intel, intel can be cheaper with previous gen mobos and 13th gen cpu. but platform's dead soon, but again for immediate cheaper but same or more powerful performance intel wins. but if you aint looking for best performance 5900x /12900k~ can be very good buys. cheap but great highend mobos and ram, you can live for another 2-4years easily with the setup
Went from 5800x to a 5800x3D and noticed a slight boost in games @ 4k. But looks like a 5900x @ full boost does the same @ 4k and will do better productivity wise. Ram speed and timings makes a difference too
Yeah I’m thinking it won’t be much better than a 5950x and it’s kinda nice to know your setup has a sick CPU with 16cores instead of just a good gaming cpu with 2017 productivity performance.
@@francomora909 For gaming the 5800x3d is significantly faster. I also do fractal zoom movies on my RUclips page. Image & movie creation/rendering on the 5900 is much faster. The 5900 is a nice mix for gaming and content creation but if your primary focus is gaming then the 5800x3d is definitely the better choice.
I just ordered me a 5900x. I got a r7 1700 right now. I wanted a x3d but it was like 50$ cheaper to get the 5900x.. I was like forget that paying more when a more powerful CPU is cheaper.. I usually run 1440p anyway. I need to upgrade my r9 390x gpu, but I am waiting on the 7900 series from ati. I usually wait like 8 years to upgrade etc.
So it’s pretty clear from just a gaming and streaming standpoint should go for 5900x over the 5950x.. I’ve been thinking about it for a while as I have 3700x currently and I just game and stream and after this I’m leaning more to the 5900x as it’s £120 cheaper than the 5950x
Thanks for this! The 5900x is on sale today for $335 and while I'd been waiting for the 5800x3d I'll be exclusively gaming in 4K, so I think I'll save $50+. I'll probably end up with a 4080 when they come out but since you tested with a 3090 Ti (which I also appreciate) I still think I'll be good for quite a while.
Depends what resolution/framerate you're going to be playing at, and the types of games. Pure speculation at this point but since I'll be playing at 4K60 I figured the 5900x would probably be fine for me for a while. Newer games at higher framerates would probably benefit from something newer though, or to future-proof as much as possible. I mostly went the AM4 route because I already had a 3600 but I'd've probably gone newer if I was buying all new.
@@EthanH1 The 12VHPWR connector debacle is much bigger than it should be. In reality, there has been around 30ish cases so far, in an universe of 100k+ (as of November 22) cards. So the chances of actually going through that problem is marginal, at best. It is so rare, that none of the studies about it were able to even replicate it. Also, most recent studies on the subject points to this probably being an user installation error (albeit due to a poor design, imho). But yeah, that 4080 is really expensive for what it is. I would seriously consider AMD at that price range.
so some people need to understand that 3D cpu is not faster it's the same as 5800x which is worse than 5900x or 5950x varient with less cores and lower clock speeds. what you do get tho with 3D cache is higher L3 cache, which will store more information than other cpus on specific games or applications that need to access information fast and heavy batches if that makes any sense, that's why in 4k comparission you see 3D cache variant actually winning in some cases which would normally non 3D variant lose. And that example is that more information gets stored onto L3 cache level rather than going to RAM and accessing that information from there.
And some people must understand that those youtube benchmark videos are just cheap clickbaits. Watch some reputable reviews, X3D is better in EVERY game than 5950X and in most games it's not even close.
@@exoticspeedefy7916 I don't know where my comment dissapeared so i write again: 5950X has 32mb L3 cache per CCX, total 64mb per 2 CCX. But IPC between two CCX is much slower and doesn't benefit in gaming, as you can see from all reviews, 5800X vs 5900/5950X are quite identical. You can overclock 5800X3D, you can't overvolt it. 1,35V is plenty enough for overclocking(but you get better results with undervolting). Lot of people have done it, but it doesn't give much in gaming, max 1-2% fps boost. Same with other ryzens, overclock is quite pointless for gaming. RAM speed and latency matters more. There are some reputable reviewers who are compared 5800X3D with 5950x, like Techpowerup.
@@Arx07 It's strange because some games beneifit from more cores and threads. I have seen reviews where even the 5900x came out on top.. and at 4k you are GPU bottlenecked anyway so theres little to no difference. I would say over all the 5900x is a better deal if you are also doing content work and rendering ect and also gaming. I am curious about this 5800x3d
@@exoticspeedefy7916 casual user and gamer doesn't need that extra workloads boost that 5900X/5950X can offer, 5800X3D is still fast enough for anything unless you make living and depend a lot on heavy workloads/rendering etc. In 4K gaming there's also CPU heavy games where X3D performs a lot better, for example Star craft 2 and Cities: Skylines. In strategy games CPU affects a lot. But not only, there's big difference also in Valorant, The Outer Worlds, Assasin's Creed Valhalla, where on 4K 5800X3D beats 12900K by 8-12%. And 12900K is much better gaming CPU than 5950X, with same amount of cores. Also one game that is known that uses a lot of cores/threads is Death Stranding, X3D beats 5900X/5950X there also easily.
@@Art0r1a ye just got for 5900x it's better chip imo other than it lacks 32mb of l3 cache so 5900x w 64 and 5800x3d w 92, it costs less, it has more cores, slighty higher clock speeds, and it has 2/3 of cache of 5800x3d which again is total win. 5800x3d is useless anyway idk how dafuq would even buy it when 7000 series is coming this year and 5900x or 5950x are still better deals than X3D one
Keep in mind that the 5900X has its 64MB of L3 cache split between 2 CCD's. The means that each core has low latency access to only 32MB of cache. This is why the 5900X would perform similarly to the 5800X in gaming performance, which has just 32MB of L3 cache.
1:22 i just love how when it comes to what it matters (games) the one that has the worse numbers Ryzen 7 5800X3D is as good and sometimes better sometimes worse, because that's what it was made for, ofc if you work with your pc and use virtualization the other cpus are superior which makes them better overall.
ya about to upgrade my 3600x for a 5900x or 5950x not worth it for me the 5800x3d and pass on all the multitread performance especially if I get it on sale with a good bargain
@@Bdot888 wait my friend wait huge deals are coming between now and Christmas a brand new series of Nvidia gpu cards some from intel and Amd too and the new chipset of am5... all this with the crazy price because of covid of the 30 series gpu we will have too much gpu in store a crash or some super deal will happen we will be able to buy everything at super low price... I mean I want to buy 128gb of ram ddr4 3600mhz and a 5950x or 5900x whichever is on sale etc and save all my cash for a 4090 or 4080 ...there is the Asus PG27AQN rog swift 360hz gaming monitor too who will be released soon for esports may get that too to have 2 2k screen 27inch etc dont worry we will get great deals soon there is too much stocks in stocks at crazy price etc been buying computers part for over 30 years
@@cloudstrife7083 yeah im definitely waiting at least until the end of the year and scooping up all those high end parts for the cheap! Im excited for the new tech but im not in dire need fortunately, so i will be patient
All I have been hearing is the 5800x3d outperforms the 5900x by 10-15% gaming? I almost wasted $300 on the 5800x3d. Glad I didn’t, 5900x will be just fine thank you
It's funny to see so many debates about largely non-significant differences in frame rate. Prolly should consider other variables more heavily, such as temps, voltages, etc. My 2 cents: If you are mainly thinking about gaming and are on a budget, just buy the chip that is cheapest at that moment.
why would u lock ur 5900 and 5950 to 4.7.....you would get better performance with PBO 2 enabled instead....guaranteed u redo the benchmarks with pbo 2 enabled and both those chips either outperform or are even with the x3d...
These benchmarks are totally wrong. I upgraded from a 5900X to the 5800X3D, since I have the Asus X570 Dark Hero and its a kickass mainboard. My average frames gone up substantially in many games. If you have the RTX 4090, like me, the 5000 Series wont cut it anymore, with the exception of the 5800X3D.
I was really confused when I first started watching this video so I looked through the comments to see if anybody else had noticed it and yeah the 5800 x3d is an amazing chip for straight up gaming I'm wondering if when this video was made there was no optimizations for the additional cache then again most of the x3d videos I saw this CPU was still really better at gaming than what they're showing here so I'm a bit confused
At 4k even a 7950 has pretty same result than 5950 and 3950. The difference is minimal. So with a future 5090, a 5900x 5950x will be plenty enough. And if you maximize quality and raytracing having a latest cpu don’t give you any advantage. But a big cpu is good for productivity. However these 5000 series are already very good in productivity. Hey my 1800x is already super fast in DaVinci, photoshop and other software, it runs well also in blender. So a 5950x is plenty enough for any tasks. I would pass on 7000 series first iteration of am5, ryzen 8000 will be better. Currently intel is better with the13900k. The real battle will be between ryzen 8000/9000 and intel 15900k where all manufacturer improve temperature and stability and performance and cores count.
A lot of people seem to be asking the same question in the comment section... "Why not over clock it?" Me: As someone who is still using intel's second gen i5-2500k from 11 years ago... i never overclocked my CPU, EVER! and it has lasted me 11 years strong without ever failing on me, and its still going STRONG. As for my friend whom had a i7-2700k, his died after 7 years cause he overclocked his to 5.0 GHz.
@@Glubbdubdrib Playing Valorant, Cabal, MapleStory, Grand Chase, Memu android player, AutoCAD, TreeOfSavior, Final Fantasy 15, .Hack/G.U. Last Recode, Age of Empires II and so on...
The 5800X3D is only good if you're doing 1080p gaming. For 2K and 4K, I'd go with the 5950X. You'll get better performance in tasks on your PC. Also, the 5800X3D is the same price as the 5950X right now.
I'm literally not watching your video and I disliked it so that hopefully no one else is suckered into your bullshit "click on my link so I can get paid". You're supposed to list the part YOU used in the video, not every part known to mankind.
Unless you only game at 1080p and every fps counts, it really makes sense to go for the 5900x, the 5950x needs better cooling and the 5800x3d was over hypes and poorly supported by current BIOS versions.
@@wayneomeara7874 Why do people keep saying this? It outperforms the 5950x and 5950x in 4k too. And seems to stomp them in vr and other cache heavy games
If they do that, I'll buy it in a heartbeat. Got a 5900x with a 3080 and not much room to upgrade now that they are changing my ddr5 now. But if they do that to the 5950x, it will be awesome for people on older mb
i recently got the lg ips 4k/144 monitor and 2 1080p/144 ips monitor , im waiting to build a new pc and i hesitated betwen 5800x 3d and 5900x i think im gonna go with the 5900x there is no big gain at 4k and it's not that usefull at 1080p if you don't play 240 or 360 hz but the extra 4 core will help outside of gaming , im not building with new gen cpu because motherboard and ram are to expensive for the gain i pref put that saved cash on the gpu gor more perf thanks for the bench it help me chosing :)
pretty much a 5800x 5900x 5950x will all do the same in games if you clock them the same. 5600x should be just as good as well or close enough to not matter. the extra cores are only good if you multitask or stream while gamming.. very debatable if anyone here uses the extra cores for say virtualization and using the extra cores and memory to run multiple instances of other operating systems.
Hello what monitor / resolution would you recommend for me that has a 5900x paired with a 3090 rtx? Should i go feks 4k? Or save some bucks for a high hz 1440p?
Hola, crees que voy a poder correr pubg de manera fluida con un r9 5900x, placa de video rx 6700 xt y 64 de ram a 3600mhz.. en 1080p? alcanzaré los 144fps o 240? me estoy por comprar esa configuracion y no sé si me servirá para competitivo..
But this entire video the 5900x and 5950x are already on a pretty crazy all core overclock....I think people need to keep in mind their 5900x and 5950x WONT be performing this well. Probably much worse
@@ZDY66666 Note that in some titles, the games seem to prefer more cores and higher clock speeds.. GTAV and cyberpunk is an example with some benchmarks actually showing the 5900 x ahead by a few frames at higher resolutions
@@exoticspeedefy7916 as an owner of a i9 9900k myself & just upgraded to 5800X3D, I feel this is might be true. Still seems the 5900x can pull ahead in certain games & those extra cores helps with overhead. I have insane frame rates in all games now with the 3D, but frame times seems weird… bizarre stutters sometimes perhaps caused by the new V-cache technology. I’m very sensitive to the smoothness of games/mouse feel, probably more than frame rates. Really tempted to try a 5900x & sell off the 3D if all goes well…. This is becoming a more common topic. The 3D pumps out amazing numbers but feel is up to the user I guess.
@@pixelztv5254 I just went from a 5900x to a 5800x3d and gaming at 4k maybe 2 or 3fps more on average, some games no difference. I don't need the productivity as i don't do any editing or blender ect. It does run hotter though, and latency on the AIDA64 benchmark for the 5800x3d is about 59ns from 55ns I had on the 5900x with adjusted memory timings. It seems V-cache defiantly incurs a latency penalty by about +3-4 points
@@exoticspeedefy7916 glad to hear its working well for you! Seeming you are playing at 4k, you’d be a lot less CPU bound than myself considering all I play is 1080p esports titles currently. I’m really hoping the 5900x extra cores can clean up any mouse lag I’m having, even if that means lesser frames. Even though you’re on 4k & mostly GPU bound, Do you notice any difference yourself between the two? Smoothness of OS operation/cursor feel etc? I see so many streamers running 5900x but not too many using the 3D. Makes me wonder why.
Guys so I currently have a Ryzen 7 3700x and I’m looking to upgrade. I play 1080p and use dual monitors (play WARZONE and stream on a single pc) I have a tomahawk b450 max mobo, rtx 3070, and 32gb Corsair ram. Should I go for the 5800x3d or the 5900?
@@eder60hz51 issue is I’m not getting over 100 fps on a lot of fps games even with low setting which seems absurd seeing as that’s what I was getting with my 5700xt. Almost seems like I upgraded to a 3070 for nothing
I'd bet money you didn't core park the dual ccd chips to test if it got better performance. some games perform better with 1 ccd, because they aren't spreading cache across the infinity fabric.
I don't know much about these things... I got a 2060 with a Ryzen5 2600X. In some games I get lower than 50 fps when some benchmarks on YT indicate that with a 2060 I should be ways above. So I thought maybe the CPU needs to be upgraded. Can you help me out please?
I thought those cpu's go for max 3200Mhz RAM? You had 3800? And I would like to see benchmark with these cpu's with flight sim 2020 please if possible.
Yea with pbo and curve optimizer my 5950x will hit 5-5.1ghz on most cores and get really close to 5.2ghz on its best cores. But it’s tricky to lock down performance on amd on intel its pretty simple took me 2min to overclock my 9900ks to 5.2ghz with my 5950x i can never get the same performance twice. Hell my first time messing with it i got my best scores on synthetic benchmarks but I can’t seem to get those scores anymore plus clock speeds can be deceiving. You might get a better score at 4.6 than 4.8. And I keep my kracken x72 at max fan and pump most of the time I wanna try 360mm Arctic Freezer ii I have a 240 on an 8700k and a 120mm on a 3900x in an itx build. They seem to be one of the best aio’s for amd and i like their so simple to install. The vrm fan is nice not sure how much it helps but some air is better than nothing. Almost bought a 5800x3D yesterday to replace the 3900x but its just a tinker build and spending almost 500 on a new cpu is stupid. Its a fast cpu but I play at 4k on my main rig and your totally gpu bound at that resolution.
Yeah this is much more what I'd actually be expecting and what is the true reality of owning these different PCs, that what you're actually going to get to experience is maybe like two or three titles that respond extremely well to 3D vcache and that then maybe the vast majority either don't notice much difference or respond more poorly. Notice how the majority of these games actually play better with a 5950x because it has much better core frequency. This is the main limitation of 5800X3D and the primary reason I wouldn't recommend it per se, unless you are really into Far Cry or Watchdogs Legion or something it's basically not going to do dick for you, it sucks on productivity tasks if you do them, and then you can't even overclock it or fiddle with the settings. 5800x3d is too one trick pony for me.
in Russia 5950x price is 37000 rubles, 5800x3d price = 29000 rubles (new cpu of course), but i think 5950x is better for future. 5900x is a very strange cpu. 5800x3d much slower 5950 (it's only for games on today... no future). But they is a good cpu. Если не ясно, я за 5950 чуть больше голосую с учётом игр будущего на года вперёд, чем за 5800x3d, а 5900x не нравится, но все хорошие на сейчас, если о цене не думать)
What is better in general... 5800x3d and 5900x? U have noyh and i need to choose only one. Dont tell me that one for gaming and the other for production or the price or bla bla bla.... Only whats the winner. Because at the end nobody says that. Whats the winner at the end? I need only for this gen. Before i will jump to the actual gen in one year.
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It looks like he’s just smashed random numbers into is keyboard
I have the 5900X and absolutely love it. Wont be upgrading to am5 for a good 5-7 years
I will purchase the 5900x over 5800x3d
@@vi683a you'll have no regrets besides making sure you have a 360mm to keep the beast cool 🤣
@@Dr_Angry Found out, that on b450 probably aint going to cut it, have to upgrade my MB...So not sure if ill sell it and do the 550, or wait.
Probably sell the MB because i don't want to spend the extra on ram on next gen and i don't need it.
@@vi683a i run the asrock pg velocita x570
You could probably skip am5 and just go to am6
This type of testing should be done at stock settings. Most users will not locked their frequency or play around with curve optimizer or over and under volting.
5800x3d can't be oc the usual way
Thats the Problem of "the regular user"...
Yeah, I like how the presenter initially shows the 5950 and 5900 clocks go to 4.9 and 4.8ghz respectively and then procedes to bench them at all-core 4.7 OC.... the percentage of people that run their 5950x/5900x at OC settings is probably less than 10%. Pretty unrealistic. My 5800x does 5.04 Ghz on 7 cores while gaming and would be just as dumb to show in a comparison video. OCs are PER PART, not all parts that are made so just because the presenters samples do what they do it not indicative of....anything. Complete and utter waste of time for general consumption other than their own personal interest. They should have put 1 of them on LN2 just for extra dumb-ness.
See I found this review way more helpful because of his oc settings, saved me a bunch of research and a dumb purchase
Can someone explain this thread please
I have the 5950x and the 5800x3d as im building rig for a mate (the 5800x3d), I ran the rx6950xt on both cpu`s, IF you activate precision boost overdrive the 5950x wins .. and my temp on a 360 aio has been arround 65c..
Specs for both systems, crosshair hero VIII, 32 gb ddr4 3600 (corsair), 1000w psu, m2 drive.
The point is the 5900 and 5950 are for overall performance (if you do other cpu intensive stuff) and if you just wanna game the 5800x3d will run just fine, especially at 1080p or 1440p ! SAVE THE MONEY FOR A BETTER GPU OR FASTER RAM !
thx ,i think so too , just off to the store to get a CPU..
Great test. At 1440P which is what I care about... The 5800x3d only outperforms my 5900x current CPU in a couple games. Not worth the swap. Thanks for helping me decide this with real world benchmarks.
Yup, came here for the same comparison, there's been some price drops here and there for the 5800X3D, and I'm also on 5900X. This cleared things up for me, not swapping out.
@Peter Bread if you occasionally do more than game, then go with the 5900X
@Peter Bread it's been the cheaper of the two for a while
@Peter Bread it came out back in April, the 5900X came out back in 2020
@Peter Bread Go for it, there's no wrong choice really. Both are awesome
it depends alot tho.. but the 5900x is cheaper then the 5800X3D when its almost the same... some games it wins.. some games it looses.. just like the 5800x3d sooo i guess the 5900x is the best bet since it has more cores so its also great for editing and other stuff not just gaming
Yessir just picked up a 5900x for $330
@@francomora909 mines $400 which is alot cheaper than previous $500, also gotta wait for them 7000 series processors
@@thegamingbird101 7000 series seems like a good performance leap but the prices don’t justify the amount of cores tbh…better to get 12 core 5900x for $350 than a 6 core 7600x for $300. Sure it wins on single core performance but that’s it. 6, even 8 cores is just not gonna be enough for the years to come in gaming.
This aged like milk
@@raymond8250 Why so?
I don’t trust these gaming benchmarks. It’s either these gaming benchmarks are correct or AMD and other independent reviewers benchmarks are absolutely wrong with their claim that the Ryzen 5800X3D is the best gaming chip is absolutely wrong
i think 5800x3D wont be as good on 1080p but rather better on QHD and even better on UHD resolutions because of the higher cache capacity.
Like i dont know what differences therea are beside increasing L3 cache, but you cannot compare that chip to other chips that have higher clocks and 4-8 respecitvely more cores.
and both cpus 5900x and 5950x have 64MB of L3 cache which is only 1/3 less which i am not surprised that performance doesnt hold much up to it.
Perhaps if you were to compare 5600/3600x or 11700h with X3D... But what this cpu can do is load more essential stuff into its cache which will be more than 10x faster than reading it from the DRAM
@@knightnxk2906 in fact quite the contrary, 1080p is where the cpu matters, 2k and 4k are less intensive on the cpu and a lot more on the gpu and vram, thats why most of the benchmarks at those resolutions are almost identical, plus the 96mb cache on the 3d against the 64mb on the 59xx cant outweigth the cons: no overclocking and lower core/thread count
The real winner here price/perfomance is the 5900x atm (360-390usd)
"Best gaming chip" claim is not important, but I see conflicting results like X3D GTA V being slower than regular Zen 3 or R6 results vs other reviewers.
@@deafno i mean you need to ask yourself is it much of an improvement with increased 32mb cache only? r9 chips have more cores and higher clock speeds and still retain 2/3 of the full 3D cache capacity.
only wailt comparission would be against regular r7 5800x and r5 5600x and last 11th gen intel cpus (since 12th gen are new and and 5000 series cant really compare fairly against them unitl 7000series comes out)
@@knightnxk2906R9 chip's L3 is split into two CCD , the effective L3 in each CCD is 32MB
Thank you for including 4K benchmarks! I understand that we are mostly GPU bottlenecked at this resolution but I game at this resolution and I want to see how different CPUs compare on benchmarks at this resolution to find out if it's worth to upgrade the CPU. I have a 5950X and a 3090. It doesn't look like it's worth it for me to get a 5800X3D.
i have a 5900x and a 3080. Game at 4k. You think I should upgrade to a 7950x or a 13900k or just upgrade to a 4090. I'd rather just upgrade the GPU, but wondering if I'll get any benefit upgrading the CPU to the ones I mentioned. I also have gskill cl 14 3800mhz 32 gb of ram of Samsung bdie.
@@rindrasi With your set up (5900X & 3080), I won't even consider upgrading at all this year or next year. But if you really want to upgrade, the GPU will be the most logical choice.
@@xellaz thanks man!
I game at 4k too with a 6950xt and will be upgrading my r5 3600 to the 5800x3d, should be good for years to come until am5 prices come way down and am5/ddr5 maturity as well.
@@xellaz same. I also have the 5900 and 3080 and at this point I will probably hold out until a 5000 series RTX GPU releases then go to the Ryzen 9 7900/50x and DDR5. Basically I'm done for now until I have to change sockets with a new motherboard.
I have the 5950x and just upgraded to RTX 4090. I’m seriously contemplating getting the 5800X3D since I only use my pc for gaming and listening to high res lossless music files through Roon/Qobuz. I don’t do any productivity work. I also strictly game at 4k with and without DLSS. From what I’ve seen, even at 4k which is mostly gpu bound, the 5800x3D is still getting a good bit better 1% lows and in several games higher fps. I’ve never changed out a CPU before. Mostly just PSU and GPUs. I believe it’s pretty simple, you just have to make sure and clean off the remaining thermal compound from the heat sink with alcohol and reapply enough thermal grease after cleaning. The 5800X3D can be had for under 400 now and is in stock most places.
Swapping a cpu is very easy.
Did you do swap to the 5800x3d? And if so did you think it was the right choice? I’m in the same boat
5900X is clearly the over all winner when it comes to gaming performance/price and 5900X is better suited editing etc with 12 cores. Good job with the video!
if you overclock the 5800x3d it beats them all by 20 to 30 and sometimes 40 frames. If you get 4.7ghz out of the 3d it wins everytime. In flight sim i was getting 12 more fps that a 5950
@@Holyspiritrecieved Uhhh .. you won't be able to overlock it unless you have a very specific MSI motherboard, and doing so is most definitely at your own peril.
no these benchmarks are completely wrong. the 5800x3d is way way better in terms of gaming performance. but the 5900x and 5950x are better in productivity.
i disagree went from a 5900x to 58003d and in world application performance the 3d out performs like crazy... not in cinabench but just overall workstation usage is far better. Smoother due to the cache size
@@Holyspiritrecieved they expressly disable overclocking the 5800x3d in the bios. Do you not know this? It's NOT an over clocking chip.
Thanks for the 5900X vs 5800X3D 4K comparison! They're on sale for the same price right now but so torn as to which is most suitable for my needs as I do some coding/video conversion as well.
there are some games that even in 4K 5800x3d beats the 5900 and 5950 in. such as flight simulator. but 90% of games out there run fine with any choice
@@MakeSh00t This video is sadly useless, 5900x or 5950x aren't in the video at all, let alone OCd. Almost no reviewers benchmarked OC 5900x vs the X3D, including the main ones HWU and GN. The cache benefit is obvious in a few games and those are obvious, but in everything else the difference is much smaller than claimed, even more at 1440p, which again is rarely tested by the big reviewers "to show the difference in CPU performance" which in the end doesn't matter for a consumer that uses higher resolution.
@@MakeSh00t There's no 5900x in that comparison. This one compares it to the 5900x /watch?v=I7-2ArdYvfA
I think for gaming the 5800x3D will be better over the years since people will use more upscaling and games will be less optimized. And dont forget what it was intended for: Boosting up to like almost 10y old systems without having to change every part, not being the top of the tops.
The socket support from AMD + the power usage for the performance are just amazing. I run it on my b450 a pro max with a peerless assassine 120se cooler and it uses slightly more power than my former 5600g while being under 70°C while gaming in a hot room.
What have we learned? The ryzen 5900 is more than enough
@@meistereder7169 Cry
@Peter Bread for an average user, yes! 5800x3d. For heavy use + gaming 5900x or better 5950x
This guys a clown. The 5800x3d is way better than what he shows.
These numbers look so wrong what kind of timings u got on your ram?
5900X has been $369.99 so that's the value.
it's amazing that you get 12cores for such a low price i know 5-6 years ago that would still cost you thousands
Not In my country, Its 2x that price
We pay around 430 with vat and shipment for the 5900x
@@knightnxk2906 $329.99 now is insane for this CPU for Black Friday.
@@JayzBeerz i saw some going for 250-300$ on used market. still an amazing deal if you ask me. if you can get it for half of what the 7900/7950x are going for .
But when you opt in the mobo cost and ram, it's not that worth it anymore haha.
Sticking with last gen cpu is prob the best for now for amd and maybe intel, intel can be cheaper with previous gen mobos and 13th gen cpu. but platform's dead soon, but again for immediate cheaper but same or more powerful performance intel wins.
but if you aint looking for best performance 5900x /12900k~ can be very good buys.
cheap but great highend mobos and ram, you can live for another 2-4years easily with the setup
Went from 5800x to a 5800x3D and noticed a slight boost in games @ 4k. But looks like a 5900x @ full boost does the same @ 4k and will do better productivity wise. Ram speed and timings makes a difference too
I’m considering upgrading from 5800X(this will go to B350 motherboard) and leaning towards 5900X. I usually play in 4K.
Yeah I’m thinking it won’t be much better than a 5950x and it’s kinda nice to know your setup has a sick CPU with 16cores instead of just a good gaming cpu with 2017 productivity performance.
I‘m thinking about upgrading my 5800x to the 3D version for VR Games but I‘m unsure about what to expect.
You spent on another CPU, just for the 3d model?? For what.. 5-10% fps. Not worth it. I would wait and buy ryzen 9 7000's series
@@pedromiguel5422 sure did. Gave the old cpu to my nephew for his build
Great video! I have a 5900X and really enjoyed watching the results! I appreciate you taking the time to create this informative video!!!!!!
Would you recommend the 5900x over the 5800x3d?
@@francomora909 For gaming the 5800x3d is significantly faster. I also do fractal zoom movies on my RUclips page. Image & movie creation/rendering on the 5900 is much faster. The 5900 is a nice mix for gaming and content creation but if your primary focus is gaming then the 5800x3d is definitely the better choice.
I would still go with 5900X it’s only $389 cheaper then the 5800X3D
Thank you it's exactly what I was looking for!
Looks like the ryzen 9 5900x for me! They’re $54 cheaper then the 7X3D! 😁✌️
I just got the 5900x bro nice cpu
In Australia thats $110 cheaper for the 5900X. I think I might pick one up this week and upgrade from the 3700X, which has been fine until now.
@@bangyahead1 i will do that too…
I just ordered me a 5900x. I got a r7 1700 right now. I wanted a x3d but it was like 50$ cheaper to get the 5900x.. I was like forget that paying more when a more powerful CPU is cheaper.. I usually run 1440p anyway. I need to upgrade my r9 390x gpu, but I am waiting on the 7900 series from ati. I usually wait like 8 years to upgrade etc.
So it’s pretty clear from just a gaming and streaming standpoint should go for 5900x over the 5950x.. I’ve been thinking about it for a while as I have 3700x currently and I just game and stream and after this I’m leaning more to the 5900x as it’s £120 cheaper than the 5950x
Ryzen 7 5800X3d Out of stock, 5900x is $200 :)
Thanks for this! The 5900x is on sale today for $335 and while I'd been waiting for the 5800x3d I'll be exclusively gaming in 4K, so I think I'll save $50+. I'll probably end up with a 4080 when they come out but since you tested with a 3090 Ti (which I also appreciate) I still think I'll be good for quite a while.
what would be the best option for a 16gb 4080?
Depends what resolution/framerate you're going to be playing at, and the types of games. Pure speculation at this point but since I'll be playing at 4K60 I figured the 5900x would probably be fine for me for a while. Newer games at higher framerates would probably benefit from something newer though, or to future-proof as much as possible. I mostly went the AM4 route because I already had a 3600 but I'd've probably gone newer if I was buying all new.
Consider going AMD for the GPU if RDNA 3 looks good. Nvidia’s 4080 is overpriced and uses a faulty connector.
@@EthanH1 The 12VHPWR connector debacle is much bigger than it should be. In reality, there has been around 30ish cases so far, in an universe of 100k+ (as of November 22) cards. So the chances of actually going through that problem is marginal, at best. It is so rare, that none of the studies about it were able to even replicate it. Also, most recent studies on the subject points to this probably being an user installation error (albeit due to a poor design, imho). But yeah, that 4080 is really expensive for what it is. I would seriously consider AMD at that price range.
5900x is cheaper here, than 5800x3d.
so some people need to understand that 3D cpu is not faster it's the same as 5800x which is worse than 5900x or 5950x varient with less cores and lower clock speeds.
what you do get tho with 3D cache is higher L3 cache, which will store more information than other cpus on specific games or applications that need to access information fast and heavy batches
if that makes any sense, that's why in 4k comparission you see 3D cache variant actually winning in some cases which would normally non 3D variant lose. And that example is that more information gets stored onto L3 cache level rather than going to RAM and accessing that information from there.
And some people must understand that those youtube benchmark videos are just cheap clickbaits. Watch some reputable reviews, X3D is better in EVERY game than 5950X and in most games it's not even close.
@@Arx07 Depends. PBO and overclock settings on the 5950x will nearly match it and it allready has a decent amount of L3 cache.. You can't OC the X3D
@@exoticspeedefy7916 I don't know where my comment dissapeared so i write again:
5950X has 32mb L3 cache per CCX, total 64mb per 2 CCX. But IPC between two CCX is much slower and doesn't benefit in gaming, as you can see from all reviews, 5800X vs 5900/5950X are quite identical.
You can overclock 5800X3D, you can't overvolt it. 1,35V is plenty enough for overclocking(but you get better results with undervolting). Lot of people have done it, but it doesn't give much in gaming, max 1-2% fps boost. Same with other ryzens, overclock is quite pointless for gaming. RAM speed and latency matters more.
There are some reputable reviewers who are compared 5800X3D with 5950x, like Techpowerup.
@@Arx07 It's strange because some games beneifit from more cores and threads. I have seen reviews where even the 5900x came out on top.. and at 4k you are GPU bottlenecked anyway so theres little to no difference. I would say over all the 5900x is a better deal if you are also doing content work and rendering ect and also gaming. I am curious about this 5800x3d
@@exoticspeedefy7916 casual user and gamer doesn't need that extra workloads boost that 5900X/5950X can offer, 5800X3D is still fast enough for anything unless you make living and depend a lot on heavy workloads/rendering etc.
In 4K gaming there's also CPU heavy games where X3D performs a lot better, for example Star craft 2 and Cities: Skylines. In strategy games CPU affects a lot. But not only, there's big difference also in Valorant, The Outer Worlds, Assasin's Creed Valhalla, where on 4K 5800X3D beats 12900K by 8-12%. And 12900K is much better gaming CPU than 5950X, with same amount of cores.
Also one game that is known that uses a lot of cores/threads is Death Stranding, X3D beats 5900X/5950X there also easily.
Strangely the 5900X is looking like a bargain compared to the other two???
because it is they are extremely cheap. 5900x is only like 30€ more expensive than 5800x
@@knightnxk2906 And where I live the 5800X3D costs 40% more than the 5900X... it's hilarious.
@@Art0r1a ye just got for 5900x it's better chip imo other than it lacks 32mb of l3 cache so 5900x w 64 and 5800x3d w 92, it costs less, it has more cores, slighty higher clock speeds, and it has 2/3 of cache of 5800x3d which again is total win. 5800x3d is useless anyway idk how dafuq would even buy it when 7000 series is coming this year and 5900x or 5950x are still better deals than X3D one
Keep in mind that the 5900X has its 64MB of L3 cache split between 2 CCD's. The means that each core has low latency access to only 32MB of cache. This is why the 5900X would perform similarly to the 5800X in gaming performance, which has just 32MB of L3 cache.
@@KillFrenzy96 but doesnt 5800x has cache split two ways, so 2x16MB? or it houses just one 32MB cache on one side
so for the price difference the 5900X is the CLEAR winner. both as a workstation and for gaming.
Any clue why your results look so unlike the ones measured by any other reviewer?
3800 CL14 must help a lot
@@ht3k i think so
To show the real power of 5950 and 5900
Low latency ram is a must
He Is a noob , this Is an horrible review
because they locked all cores to 4.7 on the 59 and 5950. unrealistic test
1:22 i just love how when it comes to what it matters (games) the one that has the worse numbers Ryzen 7 5800X3D is as good and sometimes better sometimes worse, because that's what it was made for, ofc if you work with your pc and use virtualization the other cpus are superior which makes them better overall.
The 5900x is a great bargain for gaming and productivity. How does the 5800x3d perform when gaming and streaming, compared to the two?
ya about to upgrade my 3600x for a 5900x or 5950x not worth it for me the 5800x3d and pass on all the multitread performance especially if I get it on sale with a good bargain
@@cloudstrife7083 Im also on a 3600x and considering the 5900x
@@Bdot888 wait my friend wait huge deals are coming between now and Christmas a brand new series of Nvidia gpu cards some from intel and Amd too and the new chipset of am5... all this with the crazy price because of covid of the 30 series gpu we will have too much gpu in store a crash or some super deal will happen we will be able to buy everything at super low price... I mean I want to buy 128gb of ram ddr4 3600mhz and a 5950x or 5900x whichever is on sale etc and save all my cash for a 4090 or 4080 ...there is the Asus PG27AQN rog swift 360hz gaming monitor too who will be released soon for esports may get that too to have 2 2k screen 27inch etc
dont worry we will get great deals soon there is too much stocks in stocks at crazy price etc been buying computers part for over 30 years
@@cloudstrife7083 yeah im definitely waiting at least until the end of the year and scooping up all those high end parts for the cheap! Im excited for the new tech but im not in dire need fortunately, so i will be patient
@@Bdot888 is the 5900 over clocked just to keep up with the stock 5800 3d ??!
Same performance as 5900X in Tarkov is bullshit. Tarkov is using the V Cache at max. 170 ~ 190FPS with the 5800X3D. With the 5900X about 100-130FPS
All I have been hearing is the 5800x3d outperforms the 5900x by 10-15% gaming? I almost wasted $300 on the 5800x3d. Glad I didn’t, 5900x will be just fine thank you
it is seriously misleading the fact that the bars scaling is wrong.
Thank you for the very detailed video, I really appreciate the look of your graphs. Keep up the good work, I left a like and a sub ;)
It's funny to see so many debates about largely non-significant differences in frame rate. Prolly should consider other variables more heavily, such as temps, voltages, etc.
My 2 cents: If you are mainly thinking about gaming and are on a budget, just buy the chip that is cheapest at that moment.
So, what did you do wrong with the 5800x3D setup?
Your results disagree with every other review of the CPU on the planet
why would u lock ur 5900 and 5950 to 4.7.....you would get better performance with PBO 2 enabled instead....guaranteed u redo the benchmarks with pbo 2 enabled and both those chips either outperform or are even with the x3d...
Can you please do a stock clock speed and include 1440P ultrawide resolution as well, thank you 🙂
Happy with my 5950x :)
These benchmarks are totally wrong. I upgraded from a 5900X to the 5800X3D, since I have the Asus X570 Dark Hero and its a kickass mainboard. My average frames gone up substantially in many games. If you have the RTX 4090, like me, the 5000 Series wont cut it anymore, with the exception of the 5800X3D.
I was really confused when I first started watching this video so I looked through the comments to see if anybody else had noticed it and yeah the 5800 x3d is an amazing chip for straight up gaming I'm wondering if when this video was made there was no optimizations for the additional cache then again most of the x3d videos I saw this CPU was still really better at gaming than what they're showing here so I'm a bit confused
What resolution are you playing at?
At 4k even a 7950 has pretty same result than 5950 and 3950. The difference is minimal. So with a future 5090, a 5900x 5950x will be plenty enough. And if you maximize quality and raytracing having a latest cpu don’t give you any advantage. But a big cpu is good for productivity. However these 5000 series are already very good in productivity. Hey my 1800x is already super fast in DaVinci, photoshop and other software, it runs well also in blender. So a 5950x is plenty enough for any tasks. I would pass on 7000 series first iteration of am5, ryzen 8000 will be better. Currently intel is better with the13900k. The real battle will be between ryzen 8000/9000 and intel 15900k where all manufacturer improve temperature and stability and performance and cores count.
A lot of people seem to be asking the same question in the comment section...
"Why not over clock it?"
Me: As someone who is still using intel's second gen i5-2500k from 11 years ago... i never overclocked my CPU, EVER! and it has lasted me 11 years strong without ever failing on me, and its still going STRONG. As for my friend whom had a i7-2700k, his died after 7 years cause he overclocked his to 5.0 GHz.
7 years is still a hell of a long time to have a PC part. What do you even use a second gen for now? Minesweeper?
@@Glubbdubdrib Playing Valorant, Cabal, MapleStory, Grand Chase, Memu android player, AutoCAD, TreeOfSavior, Final Fantasy 15, .Hack/G.U. Last Recode, Age of Empires II and so on...
@@chaoschief Fuck. Must lag so fucking hard on that chip.
@@Glubbdubdrib um, i not really? never seen any game lag, cause my GPU hard carries the CPU... xD
The 5800X3D is down to $329 atm at New Egg.
Ryzen 7 5800X3d Out of stock
In my country 5900x is cheaper then both the others. So for me, 5900x is the one i will buy.
as of today. Amazon selling the 5900x for £230 and the 5800x3d for £287.. its crazy lol
The 5800X3D is only good if you're doing 1080p gaming. For 2K and 4K, I'd go with the 5950X. You'll get better performance in tasks on your PC. Also, the 5800X3D is the same price as the 5950X right now.
Thanks for sharing all this info.
Why do Ubisoft games specifically love the 5800x3D so much LOL
8:41 that's some deep fried tarkov Jesus Christ
I'm literally not watching your video and I disliked it so that hopefully no one else is suckered into your bullshit "click on my link so I can get paid". You're supposed to list the part YOU used in the video, not every part known to mankind.
5800x3d is a 1080p cpu guys, stop crying and google it! And yes, in 1080p 5800x3d is better then 5950x and 5900x :)
Unless you only game at 1080p and every fps counts, it really makes sense to go for the 5900x, the 5950x needs better cooling and the 5800x3d was over hypes and poorly supported by current BIOS versions.
1440p I think 3xd would be the play.
So all I'm taking from this is it's not enough improvement in games i might as well just go with the 5900x
5800x3d runs really good for gaming
At 1080p
@@wayneomeara7874 Why do people keep saying this? It outperforms the 5950x and 5950x in 4k too. And seems to stomp them in vr and other cache heavy games
It appears amd could reclaim lost ground AGAIN by simply doubling the 5950x from 64 to 128
If they do that, I'll buy it in a heartbeat. Got a 5900x with a 3080 and not much room to upgrade now that they are changing my ddr5 now. But if they do that to the 5950x, it will be awesome for people on older mb
I use a triple 1080p screen for simracing with assetto corsa competizione , what do you suggest best a 5800 or the 5900
Is this test accurate? In other reviews, I see that in 1080p 5800X3D is way better than 5900X which I own.
No point in doing max settings for a CPU benchmark - you are GPU bottlenecking...
i recently got the lg ips 4k/144 monitor and 2 1080p/144 ips monitor , im waiting to build a new pc and i hesitated betwen 5800x 3d and 5900x i think im gonna go with the 5900x there is no big gain at 4k and it's not that usefull at 1080p if you don't play 240 or 360 hz but the extra 4 core will help outside of gaming , im not building with new gen cpu because motherboard and ram are to expensive for the gain i pref put that saved cash on the gpu gor more perf thanks for the bench it help me chosing :)
5800X3D and 5900X are currently for the same price... At this, no chance for 5800X3D, if it prices as 5900X, it is useless.
pretty much a 5800x 5900x 5950x will all do the same in games if you clock them the same. 5600x should be just as good as well or close enough to not matter. the extra cores are only good if you multitask or stream while gamming.. very debatable if anyone here uses the extra cores for say virtualization and using the extra cores and memory to run multiple instances of other operating systems.
Hello what monitor / resolution would you recommend for me that has a 5900x paired with a 3090 rtx? Should i go feks 4k? Or save some bucks for a high hz 1440p?
I game alot of titles at 7k with that combo.
Thank u for benchmark Valorant,i needed ur video :)
Hola, crees que voy a poder correr pubg de manera fluida con un r9 5900x, placa de video rx 6700 xt y 64 de ram a 3600mhz.. en 1080p? alcanzaré los 144fps o 240? me estoy por comprar esa configuracion y no sé si me servirá para competitivo..
Do you record the benchmarks with software encoder?
Also have to take into account PBO for the 5950 and 5900x that with some overclocking can put them on par with the 5800x3d
But this entire video the 5900x and 5950x are already on a pretty crazy all core overclock....I think people need to keep in mind their 5900x and 5950x WONT be performing this well. Probably much worse
@@ZDY66666 Note that in some titles, the games seem to prefer more cores and higher clock speeds.. GTAV and cyberpunk is an example with some benchmarks actually showing the 5900 x ahead by a few frames at higher resolutions
@@exoticspeedefy7916 as an owner of a i9 9900k myself & just upgraded to 5800X3D, I feel this is might be true. Still seems the 5900x can pull ahead in certain games & those extra cores helps with overhead. I have insane frame rates in all games now with the 3D, but frame times seems weird… bizarre stutters sometimes perhaps caused by the new V-cache technology. I’m very sensitive to the smoothness of games/mouse feel, probably more than frame rates. Really tempted to try a 5900x & sell off the 3D if all goes well…. This is becoming a more common topic. The 3D pumps out amazing numbers but feel is up to the user I guess.
@@pixelztv5254 I just went from a 5900x to a 5800x3d and gaming at 4k maybe 2 or 3fps more on average, some games no difference. I don't need the productivity as i don't do any editing or blender ect. It does run hotter though, and latency on the AIDA64 benchmark for the 5800x3d is about 59ns from 55ns I had on the 5900x with adjusted memory timings. It seems V-cache defiantly incurs a latency penalty by about +3-4 points
@@exoticspeedefy7916 glad to hear its working well for you! Seeming you are playing at 4k, you’d be a lot less CPU bound than myself considering all I play is 1080p esports titles currently. I’m really hoping the 5900x extra cores can clean up any mouse lag I’m having, even if that means lesser frames. Even though you’re on 4k & mostly GPU bound, Do you notice any difference yourself between the two? Smoothness of OS operation/cursor feel etc? I see so many streamers running 5900x but not too many using the 3D. Makes me wonder why.
How did you benchmark Elden Ring when it has a locked 60fps framerate?
Your tarkov one is too old. Now the 5800x3d gets like 50 more fps in tarkov for whatever reason
Guys so I currently have a Ryzen 7 3700x and I’m looking to upgrade. I play 1080p and use dual monitors (play WARZONE and stream on a single pc) I have a tomahawk b450 max mobo, rtx 3070, and 32gb Corsair ram. Should I go for the 5800x3d or the 5900?
@@eder60hz51 issue is I’m not getting over 100 fps on a lot of fps games even with low setting which seems absurd seeing as that’s what I was getting with my 5700xt. Almost seems like I upgraded to a 3070 for nothing
I payed only 10% more for the 5950X than for the 5800X3D
I'd bet money you didn't core park the dual ccd chips to test if it got better performance. some games perform better with 1 ccd, because they aren't spreading cache across the infinity fabric.
I don't know much about these things...
I got a 2060 with a Ryzen5 2600X. In some games I get lower than 50 fps when some benchmarks on YT indicate that with a 2060 I should be ways above. So I thought maybe the CPU needs to be upgraded.
Can you help me out please?
time for an upgrade.
Super Thank you
Flip a coin and pick up the cheapest one when you find them on sale basically
Good Video..thanks
For render 3D and animation (lumion,D5,vray,corona), which one is better?
5950x or 5900x if you dont have the budget for the 5950x
5800x3d is a very good chip but overrated, if your JUST gaming get the x3d but if you wanna do it all get the 5900x fasho
I wonder though in 5 years if this will be the same? Like in 5 years will new games still get the same results?
Why not OC the FSB of the 5800x3d system MB to make it more of apples to apples test? My 5800x3d goes to 4.7Ghz as well with 104.5 fsb...
It's a locked cpu
@@ramychaos Multiplier is locked. However some motherboards (my MSI B550 Unifiy-x) have external clock gen as well is built-in PBO tuning.
5800x3d is kind of all over the place. I think I prefer the 5900x. Thanks.
StarCitizen please. :)
What GPU was used???
I thought those cpu's go for max 3200Mhz RAM? You had 3800? And I would like to see benchmark with these cpu's with flight sim 2020 please if possible.
Would a ryzen 9 5900x bottleneck a 4070
Yea.. first few minutes this isnt a real test.
Elden ring is 100% locked to 60 for all systems to keep the gameplay fair
Dark souls did the same
Como você conseguiu Elden Ring acima de 60 fps, se o jogo é travado nesse frame time?
Can you test with pbo and curve optimser on the 5900x instead of looking the CPU to 4.7ghz
Yea with pbo and curve optimizer my 5950x will hit 5-5.1ghz on most cores and get really close to 5.2ghz on its best cores. But it’s tricky to lock down performance on amd on intel its pretty simple took me 2min to overclock my 9900ks to 5.2ghz with my 5950x i can never get the same performance twice. Hell my first time messing with it i got my best scores on synthetic benchmarks but I can’t seem to get those scores anymore plus clock speeds can be deceiving. You might get a better score at 4.6 than 4.8. And I keep my kracken x72 at max fan and pump most of the time I wanna try 360mm Arctic Freezer ii I have a 240 on an 8700k and a 120mm on a 3900x in an itx build. They seem to be one of the best aio’s for amd and i like their so simple to install. The vrm fan is nice not sure how much it helps but some air is better than nothing. Almost bought a 5800x3D yesterday to replace the 3900x but its just a tinker build and spending almost 500 on a new cpu is stupid. Its a fast cpu but I play at 4k on my main rig and your totally gpu bound at that resolution.
*There's something very wrong with your testing here,* no way the 5800x3D loses to any of the other to chips is most of these scenarios
Why do you think so? Despite 5800x3d having 30mb more cache it has less cores and smaller core frequency + it has no PBO option.
El mío llega hoy, que ganas tengo 5950x
Why did you lock the ryzen 9 to 4.7 ghz?
Just leave them at 5.0 ghz all core as they can! You waste performance!
I think it’s wrong cuz I thought Elden ring had a 60 fps cap
You can uncap it and fix ultrawide easy
Yeah this is much more what I'd actually be expecting and what is the true reality of owning these different PCs, that what you're actually going to get to experience is maybe like two or three titles that respond extremely well to 3D vcache and that then maybe the vast majority either don't notice much difference or respond more poorly. Notice how the majority of these games actually play better with a 5950x because it has much better core frequency. This is the main limitation of 5800X3D and the primary reason I wouldn't recommend it per se, unless you are really into Far Cry or Watchdogs Legion or something it's basically not going to do dick for you, it sucks on productivity tasks if you do them, and then you can't even overclock it or fiddle with the settings. 5800x3d is too one trick pony for me.
Some really low numbers for sure something is not right with this setup for sure.
Is this fram with gbu or just the cpu?
Didnt know gta5 had a stroy mode
in Russia 5950x price is 37000 rubles, 5800x3d price = 29000 rubles (new cpu of course), but i think 5950x is better for future. 5900x is a very strange cpu. 5800x3d much slower 5950 (it's only for games on today... no future). But they is a good cpu. Если не ясно, я за 5950 чуть больше голосую с учётом игр будущего на года вперёд, чем за 5800x3d, а 5900x не нравится, но все хорошие на сейчас, если о цене не думать)
What is better in general... 5800x3d and 5900x? U have noyh and i need to choose only one. Dont tell me that one for gaming and the other for production or the price or bla bla bla.... Only whats the winner. Because at the end nobody says that. Whats the winner at the end? I need only for this gen. Before i will jump to the actual gen in one year.
What GPU did you use ?.
3090Ti says at 0:19
5800x3d getting oc support now