@@chuch541 YOU ARE ASSUMING THAT THERE WAS A "SHALLOW SALTWATER SEA" THERE! YOU CAN'T PROVE AN ASSUMPTION! THE FOSSILS ARE NOT IN THE SEDIMENTARY LAYERS ARE THEY? I LIVE IN INDIANA, YOU DIG IN YOUR YARD TO PLANT A TREE AND YOU'LL FIND GRANITE STONES ALL DIFFERENT SIZES, SOME THE SIZE OF A DINNING ROOM TABLE, WELL THERE ARE NO GRANITE FORMATIONS IN INDIANA THEY WERE PUSHED AND DRAGGED HERE BY MILE THICK ICE SHEETS. THERE IS ALSO GOLD IN INDIANA IN SMALL QUANTITIES IT ALSO WAS WASHED HERE BY MELT WATER FROM THOSE SAME ICE SHEETS. BECAUSE YOU FIND SEA SHELLS IN AN AREA DOES PROVE THEY FORMED THERE ORIGINALLY.
Your forgetting uplift from the areas volcanic activity. The river is simply cutting thru uplifting rock. That’s what I was always told. Lived not far from there and worked there many times. That’s also why the area around the Grand Canyon is dry and wells need to be extremely deep. Extremely deep. Most don’t have water there and they tank runoff or truck water in.
Thats not really true either, the upwelling rock. There was multiple massive events from Glacial dam burst that caused rapid erosions as lakes formed on top of glaciers instantly dumped many times more water than any lake or Sea around today over the West coast. This happened roughly 3 times with breaks in-between. You can easily see this in the structure as slow cutting leads to sloped sides and rapid sharper inclines. It honestly, in ONLLLLYYY this situation gives slight credence to creationist but only because the biblical floods were likely referencing these events and they were not like what the stories tell. They were nasty floods though and took place about 12000 years ago as the ice age rapidly ended. The ice does not just melt, it forms GIANT pools of water on top which all at once dump huge amounts of water hundreds of feet deep over an area over night. That being said, everything you find on this channel is bold faced lies.
“…most geologists have jettisoned” the Idea that “the canyon was carved out by the Colorado River over millions of years.” _”Claims made with NO documented support require NO refutation”_ WHAT geologist “have jettisoned” that idea?? NOT the Geologists who work for the US Park Service At the Grand Canyon.!
No... laters of sediment that hardened into rock. The lowest fossils are from the oldest levels... the whole area... & into other states was once a shallow sea; millions of years ago for millions of years.
@@relativetruth8889Rubbish. You are suggesting that the same ISOLATED FOSSILIZATION occurred all over the world at the same time. You people will make up anything to maintain the deep time illusion.
And not only that but no fossils have ever been found crossing zones in the strata, and the more advanced fossils are higher up while the more primitive ones are closer to the bottom.
You guys really don't know anything about CPT do you? If the layers of strata were laid down over millions of years, how did massive dinosaurs get buried in sediment all over the world at the same time without decaying and rotting to dust from exposure long before they ever became buried? Thats quite a coincidence dont you think? And how do you explain marine fossils in EVERY layer of the strata?
The Mount Saint Helens eruption has been widely studied and showed up many surprises - including canyon formation through the soft sedimentary layers ... Creating credence for the idea of a catastrophic formation of the Grand Canyon
@@rodbrewster4629 Do you pay attention...? "sedimentary" means it was sediment that has to then eventually harden over time...! It was cut before it fully hardened is why 15miles wide is missing off the top = from a massive amount of water...!
@kenp2392 Scientists. Not everything is political, but I'm so happy (not) that it lives rent free in your head, even while discussing totally unrelated things. Narrow minded people are just that, narrow minded! They've just released another movie, why not get taped up and check it out, you may learn something. Like science is fluid, and ever changing perhaps? I'm probably just wasting my typing skills on a dead end mind
Anyone EVER seeing a real flood gets a real hard wakeup call in seconds as to the power of moving water esp from an inland sea outlet cutting thru soft freshly laid down layers from a massive flood...! ☆Now they use super hi-water pressure to cut steel of all thickness's like its butter...!
Go look at Mount St Helens post eruption topography changes caused by rain and lake overflow. It took days. For the Grand Canyon, where is all the dirt carved away?
Can you imagine the catastrophic seismic changes happening on the earth in that time. Continents sliding apart in just a matter of months, the poles shifting and the volcanic activity would be deafening. And to witness the water receding back thus eroding the layers of slurry to form not only the Grand Canyon, but to shaping our world as we know it. All the different layers of sediment being compacted from the weight as it dried up to form all the different rock layers and mountains around the world. Noah and his wife and children must have been in total awe, all the time remaining faithful and trusting in God.
There is also no evidence of damming east of the Grand Canyon, and how would glen canyon have formed without the same mechanism? This dude couldn’t follow the tracks of his lies for more than a second
There is nowhere on the Colorado River as high in elevation as the rim of the Grand Canyon. I don't think water ran uphill in the past to start the erosion process.
@waynwbrown4896 Yes, but they taught us in school in the 50s that the Colorado River gradually eroded the canyon over the centuries. For that to happen, Colorado River would have had to run uphill to the rim of the canyon to begin the erosion process. Melting glaciers is a much more reasonable probability. Even at 10 years old, I couldn't believe the story.
@judychurley6623 It's a well-known theory. One of several. The point is that erosion was taught as fact at the time. This is just one of many things that were taught as fact that were later proved wrong, and it is still happening. How many are we being taught now that will someday be proved wrong?
Please list the names of at least some of the geologists who jettisoned the idea that the Grand Canyon was carved by the Colorado River over millions of years.
Hundreds may be a bit much but they are correct in the sentiment of the comment. If it was weeks 😂😂😂 it wouldn't looked like that.. Not saying I know anything... but I am saying neither does this speaker doesn't either 😂😂
If you consider that these bends were formed at the end of the event, it makes perfect sense. The depth of the sediment was once a thousand or so feet above where the sandstone is today. If you’ve ever watched a puddle of water with a muddy bottom drain quickly, you’ll see the same erosion patterns emerge towards the end.
Notice the nice straight lines between the layers they say existed for millions of years and then transitioned to the next layer that took millions of years to form. Why are the lines straight? Was there no erosion from wind and water back then?
Not at the bottom of the ocean, there wasn't. But there certainly were not straight layers of sediment in a madness of sliding continents. Modern geology was developed by looking at the land. Flood Geology was made up by reading the Bible and imagining wildly. The Bible is not centered around the Flood.
Those straight lines are sedimentary depositions laid down at the bottom of ancient oceans. It’s very calm at the bottom of an ocean, even today with enormous creatures swimming through it. Imagine what it was like for the first 3 billion years of the history of the Earth before multicellular life existed. Try this as an experiment: Take a transparent glass jar filled half-way with water. Have ready ten different colors and particle sizes of sand and gravel. The water simulates the primordial ocean. The different sizes and colors of sand and gravel simulate different types rock eroded into the ocean by rain from land masses over time. At times in the past there were torrential floods (just as there are in modern times. But the great majority of the time, sedimentary deposition occurred over long periods of time. For your experiment, drop one type of sand into the water. Let it settle to the bottom. Then, drop another type of sand and let it settle to the bottom. Repeat this process, alternating between all the different types of sand and sediment. What you will see in the jar is straight lines demarcating the different types of sedimentary deposits. That is precisely the sort of sedimentary striation you see in sample mud cores drilled from sea or ocean bottoms today. Now, suppose you left that jar outside in the summertime with the top off. The water would evaporate and you would have a simulated sedimentary strata sample. It’s that striated ocean bottom lifted up onto dry land by the movement of plates of the Earth’s crust that were sliced through by gradual water erosion caused by the Colorado River in the instance of the Grand Canyon that then reveal linear deposition of sediments laid down before the upliftment of and erosion of the land. That’s not hard to imagine. In fact not a great deal of imagination is required if you simply observe natural processes at work.
Weeks!? Check out the documentary put out by the History Channel. The canyon is about 6 million years old, which is actually pretty young. The latest theory is spill over--but it took much longer than weeks.
@@lmb1931 Sophistry? Your original point was that you saw a tv show, so what? The millions of years mantra that the Darwinian cult holds up as irrefutable fact comes from ASSUMPTIONS based on an ideology. Circular logic rooted in bias.
@beestoe993 No, that's not it at all. It is YOU who are making assumptions. You're mind reading--more sophistic nonsense. I'm offering an alternative, another point of view. "Check out the documentary...." That's it. It's up to the viewer to decide who makes the stronger case. You, on the other hand, completely ignore another piece of information offered. And you call me biased? Pot, meet kettle.
I wasted all those hours in college geology, which is about how long it took to form the Rocky Mountains. I could have been doing something important like day drinking 🤔…
Actually, yes. Some people are so stuck in the little bit of info they got in high school or college that they think that what they heard about back then was absolutely true, 100%, and that all scientists agreed ... and now think that the same thing held to be true back then is still considered true today ... and that scientists never change their minds. People like that are in for a rude shock when they wake up from their sleepy naptimes. Mostly they're just rude, clinging to the main thought that they are capable of holding, that rudeness=intelligence.
Waurika lake was built here in my town on Beaver creek. So once the lake filled and the rains came and the spillway had to be opened it cut out a new Beaver creek twice as wide and twice as deep all the way to Red River. Amazing what it did so quickly.
Over millions of years the grand canyon would have eroded away (atleast 60 feet every million years) as fast as the Colorado river could have cut a river through the bottom.
@@briancooney9952 You totally missed my point of facts. If the grand canyon was the age that the secular scientists estimate (70 million years old), then the complete grand canyon would now be eroded away. The grand canyon is 4,000 feet deep on average. Erosion facts: 60 feet of erosion every one million years multiplied by 70 million years equals 4,200 feet of erosion. The natural erosion would have completely eroded away the grand canyon in 70 million years. So, since there isn't any long term erosion at the grand canyon, the only explanation for the grand canyon's existence is the grand canyon was laid down in Noah's flood and is only a few thousand years old.
@@albertsmith6717 the canyon didn’t exist until the uplift of the Colorado plateau. It has been eroded from 0 feet deep to 4000 feet deep in that time frame. If there wasn’t any significant change in elevation from modern day Colorado to the gulf of California back then, water wouldn’t be flowing into the Pacific Ocean and causing erosion like it does today. You literally did the math and proved yourself wrong. And how do you explain the sediments of limestone deep in the canyon that are made of calcium carbonate from living marine organisms?
Good point. But depending on the mass flow, deposits could be carried and dispersed over enormous distances. Would like to know just what geologic features are now found downstream of the Colorado .
@@whattha930 THERE IS NO "ASSUMING" THAT BILLIONS OF CUBIC YARDS OF GEOLOGIC LAYERS HAVE BEEN DISPLACED! IT'S OBVIOUS MISTER! WHAT @EL Mohel POINTS OUT IS "WHERE IS ALL THAT MATERIAL"? THEIR IS NO DELTA! THE COLORADO DOESN'T HAVE WATER FLOW VOLUMES AT PRESENT THAT WOULD PREVENT THE FORMATION OF A DELTA! SO ALL OF THAT MATERIAL MUST BE ON THE SEA BED OF THE PACIFIC OCEAN! 🌊 WHAT VOLUME OF WATER 🌊💦 WOULD BE REQUIRED TO CARRY THE HUGE VOLUME OF DISPLACED SEDIMENT OUT TO THE PACIFIC OCEAN AND PREVENT THE FORMATION OF A DELTA?
What if the composition of the Grand Canyon started out millions of gears ago as being "hot and soft" like hardened sand so that any water course could easily cut through it?
If your interested, I can explain to you how these differentiated rocks were deposited and the amount of time it took to form would of been literally minutes, of course then rock would flow like a river for much longer, but still probably just hours at most.
@@rosscampbell1173 why would we check out people who have no scientific studies accepted. Both are frauds and the rest of the scientific community agree.
The release of hundreds of cubic miles of water might have gouged out the canyon, but it doesn’t explain one very inconvenient fact… How long did it take the different strata to form? I’ll give you a clue: it wasn’t weeks.
Tell me you're completely brainwashed without telling me you're completely brainwashed. You speak with such authority on geology but know so little. You only know what you were told, which is nothing.
@@jhill4874 That's a terrible analogy. I didn't engineer the Boeing 747, however, there are thousands of recorded successful flights across the country and across the world. The data shows that it is more dangerous to drive a car than catch a ride on a plane. Try again.
Theres an old documentary on the building of the Hoover that say the exact same thing he is saying. This documentary was probably the first one done of the building of it and once the river was diverted, the narrator said that geologists came from all around to study the riverbed that was carved out by a great inland lake. Sounds like the millions of years theory a is newer thought maybe? Why aren’t all rivers extremely deep also because some have been around for a long time too. Just food for thought and no argument here. Everyone is allowed to think what they want. I’ve seen the whole Is Genesis History and it’s pretty cool. These guys are experts in their fields of study so I can’t argue with their conclusions. I’m no expert but it aligns with my beliefs.
Actually I find ppl are more confused nowadays. They don't know what a male and female are.. they even still think space is real lol. From all those lies nasa spews to the garbage taught in schools...it's pathetic really. We already knew where the human race originated from long before the gnome project...yet scientists "discovered " it not to long ago. Technology is going to be our downfall lol
Don’t know of any book that was written by a Butch of men ??? . But I do know a Butch of men that think long time lines for age of the earth & all creation is their own magic wand. To spin as they see fit . With Jacked up Posturing of their ; “science” Falsely so-called !
Do you have one? I imagine he does have qualification in geology or a relevant field, as they normally do have actual people who went to school for geology on this channel
@@izodope no, he would probably interpret everything differently instead of lying to spread misinformation on purpose. Let’s not call people who examine evidence differently with their own proofs and problems liars.
Much of the source of the water was the ancient Lake Agassi, in Canada, located above today's Great Lakes. It was much larger than the Great Lakes today. The frozen lake Agassi and surrounding ice cap were hit (and melted) by at least one large meteor of the Taurid meteorite stream. This event initiated the Younger Dryas 12,900 years before present (BP).
And the majority of the scientific world is completely lying with their data and interpretation. What’s your point? Dating methods are ALL flawed and completely useless. Their nice expensive equipment sure it’s great technology and measures well. But still completely worthless as regards to the data. These assumptions are: (1) the radioactive element decays at a constant rate (2) the rock crystal being analyzed is not contaminated by infusion of excess end product (3) the rock crystal contained no end product when it was formed (4) leaching of the parent element out of the rock sample did not occur through open real world contamination from many elements.
@@sandburgmartin7947 no it’s been proven oil with high pressure can be done very quickly. Including large amounts of dead carcasse from a flood between deep rock layers. Also, they’ve found tree trunks going through 2 separate coal seams separated by thick rock layer.
@@godloves9163 tree trunks prove what?? So Carbon 13, Carbon 18, etc. data mean NOTHING? Why are religious cultists so anti-science except when they have chest pains, stroke symptoms, cancer lumps, or traumatic injury?? Then they want the top "scientists", doctors, giving them maximum help with the latest scientific knowledge.
"I can't imagine", "I like the idea..." That pretty much sums it up. Inability to understand something and rather follow your own idea that you "like". That's real science right there.
lol...the science of this truth has been there for all time and its past time for you to search it out as the geologic facts are there...! This is merely a short for you low-info's that cling to untennable speculations without personally seeking out the truth that's long available not to hide from...! Its the same historically and politically and times running out to Awaken to whats really going on...!
I’m no geologist and I’m open minded to any idea, but I don’t see how water could cut through hard rock and granite in just a few days. I would think that water cutting through hard rock would be more from high pressure in a short time, or lower pressure from a long, long time. But I don’t see how it could be low pressure in a short time.
The Grand Canyon was carved out: 1) After the sediment settled from the Great Flood. 2) And before that sediment fully hardened into stone from being compressed. All of the sediment had to have settled before -hand or we would not see all of the different layers.
How did all the layers with roots in them form? How did the sediment form so many layers in the turbulent ocean during a great flood? Do massive rapid floods cause different geological signatures? Do we know what they are? Do we have examples of them anywhere? The man in this video is deluded if he thinks any credible geologist thinks the Grand Canyon was formed during the great flood.
@@bushmasterflashexactly. Whenever someone challenges such statements 9/10 times you are accused of either hatred or ignorance. Ignorance is believing that a book that was written by many different people over centuries was written by god without any evidence to support that statement. There never was a great flood and no ark would of been big enough to hold 2 of every species in the world to repopulate the world let alone also carry enough food for them all to eat as well as the humans. Fairytales the lot of it.
Started with flat land under which was deposited multiple sedimentary beds that experienced gradual uplift (orogenic?) beneath an existing river course and erosion of the river kept up with regional uplift and eventually formed the Grand Canyon in the process. Most likely it was not catastrophic although intense regional storms could direct such volumes of rain water through the canyon it would appear catastrophic.
I think the evidence is clear these formations took days or weeks in catastrophic floods. Whatever words makes catastrophic seem small, those are the words we need.
Keep trying. But you look ridiculous. Even if the canyon was carved in a few weeks, scientific dating of the strata still shouts out "millions of years."
"SCIENTIFIC DATING"?BY WHOM EXACTLY? GIVE UP A NOTED REFERENCE OF "PROVEN" FINDINGS! FURTHER MORE PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SPERATE FINDINGS OF NOTABLE GEOLOGIC STUDIES THAT CONCUR WITH "MILLIONS OF YEARS OLD"! MAYBE THE ONLY ONES THAT HEAR THE "SHOUTING" ARE THE THOSE THAT BELIEVE "ACCEPTED PRECEDENT" THEY READ OR HAVE HEARD, WHICH CAN BE JUST UNPROVEN "THEORIES"! PROVE "ACCEPTED PRECEDENTS"!!! OR SHUT UP!
After Mt. St. Helens erupted a second time, the lava mixed into mud with the snow. It ran down at high speed and cut a canyon 500' deep, and 5 miles long in a short time.
The commenters can’t stand this. If this is true it changes everything and points to a biblical flood and we know that can’t be true. That would give credence to the idea there was a creator…maybe. That has to be discarded a priori.
One things for sure, no matter how long it took, there is a hell of a lot of sand in the lower half of Arizona and down thru Mexico to the Gulf of California. That sand was probably the result of all that erosion. Beautiful and unique area of the USA and Mexico.
Secular science comes to YEC and other creationists for new theories. How much science in the Bible was scorned and mocked by secularists for centuries that only today is being 'discovered'? And the finks won't even acknowledge creationists in their papers.
Thank you very much. Someone with the ability to understand how hard water is and what it can do when it becomes a massive force. Rocks become marshmallows
Glacial lake Missoula had way more water than any hypothetical ancient lake would in the Colorado watershed, and the canyons of the Columbia river are 10 times shallower than the grand canyon. And those canyons weren’t formed by just one flood, they were formed by at least 40 of them over thousands of years. The ice damming mechanism wouldn’t be possible at the latitude of the Colorado even in an ice age climate
James Dwight Dana. He was given the Wollaston Medal. The highest award given by the Geological Society of London. But, it doesn't matter...you'll just say he's "not credible"
There was a wall of water held back in a sheet of ice, 1000 feet high at the end of the Ice Age. This event threw boulders across the landscape as big as houses as it flushed towards the Sea. The wall let go because of the super pressure at the bottom, it had changing the freezing point of water. When the wall let go it flushed the land. Located mid prairies, at the Canadian American border. This was not the lake for the grand canyon but such could be the same scenario.
So, like, the river is holding still but the ground is moving against the water? far out man. Did I sound like cheech there? thats the voice that was in my head.
Most modern geologists ascribe tectonic motion as well as erosion to form the grand canyon. If it was solely formed through erosion l, catastrophic or passive, you would see more horseshoe bends in the river. This simply couldn't have been done in less than a year
Firstly science doesn't disprove the Bible, science however was disproved by science itself because science itself doesn't make claims, scientists do and look at how many times scientists have corrected themselves? And the Bible has not yet bren proven wrong. ❤✝️
@@MrWeezer55 Firstly science doesn't disprove the Bible, science however was disproved by science itself because science itself doesn't make claims, scientists do and look at how many times scientists have corrected themselves? And the Bible has not yet been proven wrong. ❤✝
@@stevemeredith9022 sure there are, plenty too, but it is pointless if you choose to reject any historical proofs especially if you don't do it yourself. There are plenty good apologetics out there who has tons of evidence but you can reject all of them so that is your prerogative. As for science...it is scientists who make claims and throughout the ages how many scientific theories have been corrected and updated and yet you choose to put more faith in science. What do you think you believing in science is? It is faith too.
LOL, funny, but more scientists today agree with the Bible as history than don't. Even atheist Bible scholars are in awe at the accuracy. Not the God parts, but how well-preserved it is when recording eyewitness events.
@@marschlosser4540really? Who said that? And what about the dinosaurs...the bible is fiction made up by humans to control other humans through fear and intimidation...
Hahahahaaha.... "most geologists have abandoned that idea...really? Care to cite a few and their respective publications on the subject. No? I didn't think so.
Doesn’t explain all the massive erosion of all the side tributaries dumping into the main channel, nor does it explain even more erosion in the upper Colorado where the lake itself was suppose to reside. It’s not that the Colorado eroded down into the canyon. It’s the fact that the land over millions of years rose up around the Colorado and it’s many tributaries while the network of rivers tried to stay at the same relative elevation. The land rose up as a big wide plain while the rivers cut through.
This is what you get when the religious, who believe in the six thousand year old earth, try to make these things come right. Millions of years stick a stake in the heart of their narative.
This is the way the scab lands of Oregon were formed. A glacial dam collapsed, and a massive wall of water eroded the land down to bedrock and then eroded the bedrock. It was 2 geologists, acting independently, who discovered this decades ago.
Umm, I have lived on the Great Lakes my entire life. We have this place called Niagara Falls. If you could fathom how much water has been going over those falls, for eons. The average flow rate is 84,000 cu ft of water every second. It has eroded a large gorge, but that still took time, lots of time. By contrast that’s about 27.7 years of flow of the Niagara River. The flow would have been considerably higher when the mile high slab of ice melted after the last ice age.
Catistrophic erosian happened when the ice dam broke on ancient lake Missoula. Tere is a canyon in Eastern Washinton, but not nearly as large and deep as the Grand Canyon
Take millions of hours of study, by thousands of highly trained and experienced geologists, throw it all out the window then pick up a book with no credible facts or data and desperately attempt to get it to fit your theory. These people can vote.
As a construction guy I've seen my fair share of drainage ditches. The Grand Canyon is just a huge drainage ditch when seen from a high altitude. Mt. St. Hellens now has a canyon that was carved out catastrophically after the eruption melted snow and it ran downhill. The water and debris carved a deep canyon right through solid rock in a matter of days.
On Mt St Helens the water cut through loose ash and debris not solid rocks in a matter of days there is a huge difference. If you have to post lies in order to make your point sound more convincing it invalidates your point. Unlike religion science doesn't need to lie to uphold its claims.
The Grand Canion was cut in well under ten million years. I live near Queensland's Brisbane's five million year year old bed. I am told they are similar in age.
He should tell us the one about how all the animals on the planet survived extinction by walking two by two up a plank to an ark somewhere in the Middle East. Just to be consistent. He should tell us that one.
The planet at one time was covered with water, eventually it started to dry up. Erosion happened over millions of years slowly eroding the Grand Canyon.
Videos like this are why teaching science to middle school students is hard! Please go take a GEOLOGY course and learn what we really think!
Fossilized sea shells found all over the Canyon.
WHAT DO FOSSILIZED SEA SHELLS PROVE IN THE GRAND CANYON?
@@watchinglisteningit was once under saltwater, shallow saltwater. Science and god can work together, but science and Dogma cannot.
@@chuch541 YOU ARE ASSUMING THAT THERE WAS A "SHALLOW SALTWATER SEA" THERE!
YOU CAN'T PROVE AN ASSUMPTION!
THE FOSSILS ARE NOT IN THE SEDIMENTARY LAYERS ARE THEY?
I LIVE IN INDIANA, YOU DIG IN YOUR YARD TO PLANT A TREE AND YOU'LL FIND GRANITE STONES ALL DIFFERENT SIZES, SOME THE SIZE OF A DINNING ROOM TABLE, WELL THERE ARE NO GRANITE FORMATIONS IN INDIANA THEY WERE PUSHED AND DRAGGED HERE BY MILE THICK ICE SHEETS. THERE IS ALSO GOLD IN INDIANA IN SMALL QUANTITIES IT ALSO WAS WASHED HERE BY MELT WATER FROM THOSE SAME ICE SHEETS.
BECAUSE YOU FIND SEA SHELLS IN AN AREA DOES PROVE THEY FORMED THERE ORIGINALLY.
What man.cant figure out or explain. GOD can. And His answers are unarguable. Praise The LORD.
Not a SEA,, SO NO SEA SHELLS!!! SORRY WORDS MATTER!!!
These Genesis History shorts never fail to disappoint.
Agree! I’m laughing my ass of at these bozos!!
Failed 9th grade earth science is more like it
Quit watching🤷🏻♂️
@@davidvernon3119... and your PhD is in what field?🤔
@@sandman9390 better question is what degree do the guys in the video have,
Your forgetting uplift from the areas volcanic activity. The river is simply cutting thru uplifting rock. That’s what I was always told. Lived not far from there and worked there many times. That’s also why the area around the Grand Canyon is dry and wells need to be extremely deep. Extremely deep. Most don’t have water there and they tank runoff or truck water in.
It was under water the whole region I would think that currents and erosion from draining water and on and on and then you have grand canyon
Thats not really true either, the upwelling rock. There was multiple massive events from Glacial dam burst that caused rapid erosions as lakes formed on top of glaciers instantly dumped many times more water than any lake or Sea around today over the West coast. This happened roughly 3 times with breaks in-between. You can easily see this in the structure as slow cutting leads to sloped sides and rapid sharper inclines. It honestly, in ONLLLLYYY this situation gives slight credence to creationist but only because the biblical floods were likely referencing these events and they were not like what the stories tell. They were nasty floods though and took place about 12000 years ago as the ice age rapidly ended. The ice does not just melt, it forms GIANT pools of water on top which all at once dump huge amounts of water hundreds of feet deep over an area over night. That being said, everything you find on this channel is bold faced lies.
The onlY way to find out is adk josepi or are you my brothets keeper now setib discrete
@@jasonlinam1217 I think you need to visit a hospital, quick!!!
“…most geologists have jettisoned” the Idea that “the canyon was carved out by the Colorado River over millions of years.”
_”Claims made with NO documented support require NO refutation”_
WHAT geologist “have jettisoned” that idea??
NOT the Geologists who work for the US Park Service At the Grand Canyon.!
A new theory about how the Grand Canyon was formed!! This is GREAT!!!😅
But does it answer any unanswered questions? And, what new questions does it raise?
How did the fossils in the lowest strata get there if erosion cut a channel through existing rock???
No... laters of sediment that hardened into rock. The lowest fossils are from the oldest levels... the whole area... & into other states was once a shallow sea; millions of years ago for millions of years.
@@relativetruth8889Rubbish. You are suggesting that the same ISOLATED FOSSILIZATION occurred all over the world at the same time. You people will make up anything to maintain the deep time illusion.
@@relativetruth8889but that doesn't fit the 6,000 year old earth that Evangelical Christian pawn off on people.
And not only that but no fossils have ever been found crossing zones in the strata, and the more advanced fossils are higher up while the more primitive ones are closer to the bottom.
You guys really don't know anything about CPT do you? If the layers of strata were laid down over millions of years, how did massive dinosaurs get buried in sediment all over the world at the same time without decaying and rotting to dust from exposure long before they ever became buried? Thats quite a coincidence dont you think? And how do you explain marine fossils in EVERY layer of the strata?
The Mount Saint Helens eruption has been widely studied and showed up many surprises - including canyon formation through the soft sedimentary layers ... Creating credence for the idea of a catastrophic formation of the Grand Canyon
Key point "soft sedimentary rock" not hard rock like the grand canyon. Now go try to explain the Royal Gorge.
Lol. Nope, that was ash, not rock.
Who exactly studied erosion on mount Saint Helens and deduced that the Grand Canyon was created by God? You?
Nonsense
@@rodbrewster4629
Do you pay attention...?
"sedimentary" means it was sediment that has to then eventually harden over time...!
It was cut before it fully hardened is why 15miles wide is missing off the top = from a massive amount of water...!
How outlandish that the Grand Canyon was cut in weeks. Where did this guy get his "education?"
@kenp2392 they've done the rock formation studies and proved it true. So go ahead and scoff. Make sure to trust that science tho..
Who are the "they" to which you refer? Sounds like MAGA to me
@kenp2392 Scientists.
Not everything is political, but I'm so happy (not) that it lives rent free in your head, even while discussing totally unrelated things.
Narrow minded people are just that, narrow minded!
They've just released another movie, why not get taped up and check it out, you may learn something. Like science is fluid, and ever changing perhaps?
I'm probably just wasting my typing skills on a dead end mind
"Weeks."
He can't believe in tens of millions of years, but he can believe in "weeks."
He also believes climate change is going to kill everybody, just years away folks!
Anyone EVER seeing a real flood gets a real hard wakeup call in seconds as to the power of moving water esp from an inland sea outlet cutting thru soft freshly laid down layers from a massive flood...!
☆Now they use super hi-water pressure to cut steel of all thickness's like its butter...!
Nothing gets past you
@jamesflake6601 Apparently humor, if your comment was meant to be funny.
Go look at Mount St Helens post eruption topography changes caused by rain and lake overflow. It took days. For the Grand Canyon, where is all the dirt carved away?
Can you imagine the catastrophic seismic changes happening on the earth in that time. Continents sliding apart in just a matter of months, the poles shifting and the volcanic activity would be deafening. And to witness the water receding back thus eroding the layers of slurry to form not only the Grand Canyon, but to shaping our world as we know it. All the different layers of sediment being compacted from the weight as it dried up to form all the different rock layers and mountains around the world. Noah and his wife and children must have been in total awe, all the time remaining faithful and trusting in God.
The heat that would generate would boil the oceans and steam cook everything on the earth maybe even liquifying the entire Earth's crust.
@@izodope IS THERE A OPEN CAN OF PAINT THINNER SITTING IN YOUR HOUSE?
YOUR SELF PERCEIVED BRILLIANCE IS DEFINITELY RIDICULOUS!
@@watchinglistening Walt Brown's hydroplate theory fails at every point.
I'm sorry, I didn't get that...😮😊
@@JuliaVold-og1qu kind of hard to explain a concept to an illiterate.
If his theory is possible, why is there no grand canyon from Lake Bonnevile? It drained in a “short”amount of time.
There is also no evidence of damming east of the Grand Canyon, and how would glen canyon have formed without the same mechanism? This dude couldn’t follow the tracks of his lies for more than a second
There is nowhere on the Colorado River as high in elevation as the rim of the Grand Canyon. I don't think water ran uphill in the past to start the erosion process.
Dude!! It’s from millions of years of ice age melt off.. And the Colorado does run north outside of Columbus Tx for several miles!
@waynwbrown4896 Yes, but they taught us in school in the 50s that the Colorado River gradually eroded the canyon over the centuries. For that to happen, Colorado River would have had to run uphill to the rim of the canyon to begin the erosion process. Melting glaciers is a much more reasonable probability. Even at 10 years old, I couldn't believe the story.
Geologic uplift of the Colorado Platau
Uplift. It's a well-known process
@judychurley6623 It's a well-known theory. One of several. The point is that erosion was taught as fact at the time. This is just one of many things that were taught as fact that were later proved wrong, and it is still happening. How many are we being taught now that will someday be proved wrong?
Please list the names of at least some of the geologists who jettisoned the idea that the Grand Canyon was carved by the Colorado River over millions of years.
If it was catastrophic, there wouldn't be hundreds of horseshoe bends. Ridiculous
Within the canyon I recall no horseshoe bends.
Also, the entire length will show several, maybe slightly more, but hundreds?!? Silly person!
Entire length of the river.
Hundreds may be a bit much but they are correct in the sentiment of the comment. If it was weeks 😂😂😂 it wouldn't looked like that..
Not saying I know anything... but I am saying neither does this speaker doesn't either 😂😂
If you consider that these bends were formed at the end of the event, it makes perfect sense. The depth of the sediment was once a thousand or so feet above where the sandstone is today. If you’ve ever watched a puddle of water with a muddy bottom drain quickly, you’ll see the same erosion patterns emerge towards the end.
Notice the nice straight lines between the layers they say existed for millions of years and then transitioned to the next layer that took millions of years to form. Why are the lines straight? Was there no erosion from wind and water back then?
Not at the bottom of the ocean, there wasn't. But there certainly were not straight layers of sediment in a madness of sliding continents.
Modern geology was developed by looking at the land. Flood Geology was made up by reading the Bible and imagining wildly.
The Bible is not centered around the Flood.
No root structures either...
Thank you. You are absolutely right. Had not even considered that.@@redneckgearheadgarage495
Will of god?
Those straight lines are sedimentary depositions laid down at the bottom of ancient oceans. It’s very calm at the bottom of an ocean, even today with enormous creatures swimming through it. Imagine what it was like for the first 3 billion years of the history of the Earth before multicellular life existed.
Try this as an experiment:
Take a transparent glass jar filled half-way with water. Have ready ten different colors and particle sizes of sand and gravel. The water simulates the primordial ocean. The different sizes and colors of sand and gravel simulate different types rock eroded into the ocean by rain from land masses over time.
At times in the past there were torrential floods (just as there are in modern times. But the great majority of the time, sedimentary deposition occurred over long periods of time.
For your experiment, drop one type of sand into the water. Let it settle to the bottom. Then, drop another type of sand and let it settle to the bottom. Repeat this process, alternating between all the different types of sand and sediment.
What you will see in the jar is straight lines demarcating the different types of sedimentary deposits.
That is precisely the sort of sedimentary striation you see in sample mud cores drilled from sea or ocean bottoms today.
Now, suppose you left that jar outside in the summertime with the top off. The water would evaporate and you would have a simulated sedimentary strata sample.
It’s that striated ocean bottom lifted up onto dry land by the movement of plates of the Earth’s crust that were sliced through by gradual water erosion caused by the Colorado River in the instance of the Grand Canyon that then reveal linear deposition of sediments laid down before the upliftment of and erosion of the land.
That’s not hard to imagine. In fact not a great deal of imagination is required if you simply observe natural processes at work.
Weeks!? Check out the documentary put out by the History Channel. The canyon is about 6 million years old, which is actually pretty young. The latest theory is spill over--but it took much longer than weeks.
His theory is pretty weak.
"I know better than a man with a PHD because I saw a documentary on the History channel". Priceless.
@beestoe993 Like all sophistry, your comment is nothing more than a distracting ad hominem, which dies nothing to dispute the original point.
@@lmb1931 Sophistry? Your original point was that you saw a tv show, so what? The millions of years mantra that the Darwinian cult holds up as irrefutable fact comes from ASSUMPTIONS based on an ideology. Circular logic rooted in bias.
@beestoe993 No, that's not it at all. It is YOU who are making assumptions. You're mind reading--more sophistic nonsense. I'm offering an alternative, another point of view. "Check out the documentary...." That's it. It's up to the viewer to decide who makes the stronger case. You, on the other hand, completely ignore another piece of information offered. And you call me biased? Pot, meet kettle.
If errosion is that quick, we would be through to the Earths core by now. He is a strange one.
The lake that was at southwest wyoming. As was a topic in Static in the Attic's RUclips channel.
I wasted all those hours in college geology, which is about how long it took to form the Rocky Mountains. I could have been doing something important like day drinking 🤔…
Most geologists? 😂😂😂. Riiiight.
He means actual geologists. Not pseudo-intellectual clowns trolling RUclips comments.
Actually, yes. Some people are so stuck in the little bit of info they got in high school or college that they think that what they heard about back then was absolutely true, 100%, and that all scientists agreed ... and now think that the same thing held to be true back then is still considered true today ... and that scientists never change their minds. People like that are in for a rude shock when they wake up from their sleepy naptimes. Mostly they're just rude, clinging to the main thought that they are capable of holding, that rudeness=intelligence.
Where did the massive volume of dirt go in those weeks of quick erosion?
Weeks? Has he never seen how floodwater flows over rock? It spreads out, it doesn’t carve deep.
Waurika lake was built here in my town on Beaver creek. So once the lake filled and the rains came and the spillway had to be opened it cut out a new Beaver creek twice as wide and twice as deep all the way to Red River. Amazing what it did so quickly.
Over millions of years the grand canyon would have eroded away (atleast 60 feet every million years) as fast as the Colorado river could have cut a river through the bottom.
True, and that's why the grand canyon is wider than it is deep, and why it's not a perfectly vertical canyon.
@@briancooney9952 You totally missed my point of facts. If the grand canyon was the age that the secular scientists estimate (70 million years old), then the complete grand canyon would now be eroded away. The grand canyon is 4,000 feet deep on average. Erosion facts: 60 feet of erosion every one million years multiplied by 70 million years equals 4,200 feet of erosion. The natural erosion would have completely eroded away the grand canyon in 70 million years. So, since there isn't any long term erosion at the grand canyon, the only explanation for the grand canyon's existence is the grand canyon was laid down in Noah's flood and is only a few thousand years old.
@@albertsmith6717 the canyon didn’t exist until the uplift of the Colorado plateau. It has been eroded from 0 feet deep to 4000 feet deep in that time frame. If there wasn’t any significant change in elevation from modern day Colorado to the gulf of California back then, water wouldn’t be flowing into the Pacific Ocean and causing erosion like it does today. You literally did the math and proved yourself wrong. And how do you explain the sediments of limestone deep in the canyon that are made of calcium carbonate from living marine organisms?
Glacial ice dam that block the Columbia River didn't cause anything like that when it broke. Some canyons but nothing remotely like the grand canyon.
The accumulation of deposits at the outlet would be a mountain... We don't see that.
Big assumption by you.
Not a mountain, a delta.
Good point. But depending on the mass flow, deposits could be carried and dispersed over enormous distances. Would like to know just what geologic features are now found downstream of the Colorado .
@@whattha930 THERE IS NO "ASSUMING" THAT BILLIONS OF CUBIC YARDS OF GEOLOGIC LAYERS HAVE BEEN DISPLACED!
IT'S OBVIOUS MISTER!
WHAT @EL Mohel POINTS OUT IS "WHERE IS ALL THAT MATERIAL"?
THEIR IS NO DELTA!
THE COLORADO DOESN'T HAVE WATER FLOW VOLUMES AT PRESENT THAT WOULD PREVENT THE FORMATION OF A DELTA! SO ALL OF THAT MATERIAL MUST BE ON THE SEA BED OF THE PACIFIC OCEAN! 🌊
WHAT VOLUME OF WATER 🌊💦 WOULD BE REQUIRED TO CARRY THE HUGE VOLUME OF DISPLACED SEDIMENT OUT TO THE PACIFIC OCEAN AND PREVENT THE FORMATION OF A DELTA?
I say the Anazazi are obviously one of the lost tribes.
Granddaddy here revolutionizes geology. Even teams of experts at the local kindergarten however are unimpressed.
Can we all just agree, its a canyon and its grand?
Not if we have people like this who pretends to understand science.
It is definitely a canyon.
What if the composition of the Grand Canyon started out millions of gears ago as being "hot and soft" like hardened sand so that any water course could easily cut through it?
노아와 의 가족들은 아마 남은 생을 그들이 겪은 그 엄청난 일로 트라우마을 격었을거라 생각됩니다.... 때론 대낮에 술에 취해 지냈던 노아...
Yes, severely traumatized. He spent 120 years, I was taught, trying to get people, family, to repent and was laughed at.
Not to mention all that incest going on, and not one animal dying while the flood was happening. That was very lucky.😅
and,he was probably smoking high quality weed way back then .
@@jeffstepp-ou8reNoah had sons who took wives with them..✌💜
@@sarahboller5912 yeah, so it would still have been cousin then.
If your interested, I can explain to you how these differentiated rocks were deposited and the amount of time it took to form would of been literally minutes, of course then rock would flow like a river for much longer, but still probably just hours at most.
He likes the idea of catastrophic erosion, but clearly doesn't like facts. 😊
Are you getting the facts? which one do you have? They only know how to show off and don't give a single counterargument. good brainwashing
Check out Randall Carlson, Gordon Hancock.
@@rosscampbell1173 why would we check out people who have no scientific studies accepted. Both are frauds and the rest of the scientific community agree.
What is fact?
You have some funny facts...
The release of hundreds of cubic miles of water might have gouged out the canyon, but it doesn’t explain one very inconvenient fact… How long did it take the different strata to form? I’ll give you a clue: it wasn’t weeks.
"Most geologists have jettisoned that idea."
No, they have not.🤦 Why are you lying? Isn't that considered a sin?
They absolutely are.
Bearing false witness . #9 on their rock tablets.
Cool theory but you got any evidence?
Tell me you don't understand geology without telling me you don't understand geology.
Tell me you're completely brainwashed without telling me you're completely brainwashed. You speak with such authority on geology but know so little. You only know what you were told, which is nothing.
He said it, but so did the geologists. Nobody has given a clear explanation.
Tell me something about geology you weren't indoctrinated with. Tell me something you observed in the field for yourself.
@@misterindependent7994 You didn't build the airliner, so I recommend you never fly.
@@jhill4874 That's a terrible analogy. I didn't engineer the Boeing 747, however, there are thousands of recorded successful flights across the country and across the world. The data shows that it is more dangerous to drive a car than catch a ride on a plane. Try again.
Theres an old documentary on the building of the Hoover that say the exact same thing he is saying. This documentary was probably the first one done of the building of it and once the river was diverted, the narrator said that geologists came from all around to study the riverbed that was carved out by a great inland lake.
Sounds like the millions of years theory a is newer thought maybe? Why aren’t all rivers extremely deep also because some have been around for a long time too. Just food for thought and no argument here. Everyone is allowed to think what they want. I’ve seen the whole Is Genesis History and it’s pretty cool. These guys are experts in their fields of study so I can’t argue with their conclusions. I’m no expert but it aligns with my beliefs.
“Time is not a magic 🪄”
Well neither is a book written by men who didn’t know where the sun went at night 😂
Harry Potter would disagree
Actually I find ppl are more confused nowadays. They don't know what a male and female are.. they even still think space is real lol. From all those lies nasa spews to the garbage taught in schools...it's pathetic really.
We already knew where the human race originated from long before the gnome project...yet scientists "discovered " it not to long ago.
Technology is going to be our downfall lol
Yes they knew where the sun went and it’s still true today.
@@jboo77737 sure about that?
Don’t know of any book that was written by a Butch of men ??? . But I do know a Butch of men that think long time lines for age of the earth & all creation is their own magic wand. To spin as they see fit . With Jacked up
Posturing of their ; “science”
Falsely so-called !
“Most Jello-gist” I can’t unhear it..😂😂
What is this man's geological qualification? The bible?
Do you have one? I imagine he does have qualification in geology or a relevant field, as they normally do have actual people who went to school for geology on this channel
@@bikesrcool_1958if he's a young earth creationist and a geologist those things don't hold up to scrutiny and he would know.
That makes him a liar.
@@izodope no, he would probably interpret everything differently instead of lying to spread misinformation on purpose.
Let’s not call people who examine evidence differently with their own proofs and problems liars.
@@bikesrcool_1958 in his case he's straight up lying.
@@izodope MAKE A STUDENT LOAN PAYMENT... FREELOADER!
The canyon carve below Mt St Helens was instructive on how quickly a large canyon can be formed
Much of the source of the water was the ancient Lake Agassi, in Canada, located above today's Great Lakes. It was much larger than the Great Lakes today. The frozen lake Agassi and surrounding ice cap were hit (and melted) by at least one large meteor of the Taurid meteorite stream. This event initiated the Younger Dryas 12,900 years before present (BP).
So what you're saying is, the flood during Noah's time had nothing to do with it. ?
the why isnt the grand canyon all the way there.. it was a great world wilde flood not a dam break
@@johnnyllooddte3415 prehistoric beavers build the dam? 😂
So the canyon is almost 20000 years old? Impossible, the earth was created only 6000 ybc.
@@algurevich9141 The Younger Dryas stadial event occurred 12,900 years BP.
God only exists in the minds of those easily beguiled. These two men are fine examples of "beguiled."
Is this one of those people that thinks the world is 6000 years old or whatever?
Apparently. Trying to make a square peg fit a round hole. And they are actually serious.
And the majority of the scientific world is completely lying with their data and interpretation. What’s your point?
Dating methods are ALL flawed and completely useless. Their nice expensive equipment sure it’s great technology and measures well. But still completely worthless as regards to the data.
These assumptions are: (1) the radioactive element decays at a constant rate (2) the rock crystal being analyzed is not contaminated by infusion of excess end product (3) the rock crystal contained no end product when it was formed (4) leaching of the parent element out of the rock sample did not occur through open real world contamination from many elements.
Same people that are highly pro-fossil fuel----took millions of years to make oil and coal. Oh, and how about diamonds??
@@sandburgmartin7947 no it’s been proven oil with high pressure can be done very quickly. Including large amounts of dead carcasse from a flood between deep rock layers.
Also, they’ve found tree trunks going through 2 separate coal seams separated by thick rock layer.
@@godloves9163 tree trunks prove what?? So Carbon 13, Carbon 18, etc. data mean NOTHING?
Why are religious cultists so anti-science except when they have chest pains, stroke symptoms, cancer lumps, or traumatic injury?? Then they want the top "scientists", doctors, giving them maximum help with the latest scientific knowledge.
"I can't imagine", "I like the idea..." That pretty much sums it up. Inability to understand something and rather follow your own idea that you "like". That's real science right there.
Nothing but truth spoken here. I've seen the map of those lakes and it all ads up
No science here; just ridiculousness. Need science.
lol...the science of this truth has been there for all time and its past time for you to search it out as the geologic facts are there...!
This is merely a short for you low-info's that cling to untennable speculations without personally seeking out the truth that's long available not to hide from...!
Its the same historically and politically and times running out to Awaken to whats really going on...!
The Almighty God Jehovah is THE SCIENTIST. HE IS THE MAKER OF ALL SCIENTIFIC LAW THAT WE DEPEND ON FOR EVERYTHING, INCLUDING OUR LIFE!!!
@@snail847 please don't use drugs. It´s bad for you :P
Except all that pesky science they use.
@@snail847 Thats funny, he didn't even know what a germ was ?
I’m no geologist and I’m open minded to any idea, but I don’t see how water could cut through hard rock and granite in just a few days. I would think that water cutting through hard rock would be more from high pressure in a short time, or lower pressure from a long, long time.
But I don’t see how it could be low pressure in a short time.
The Grand Canyon was carved out:
1) After the sediment settled from the Great Flood.
2) And before that sediment fully hardened into stone from being compressed.
All of the sediment had to have settled before -hand or we would not see all of the different layers.
How did all the layers with roots in them form?
How did the sediment form so many layers in the turbulent ocean during a great flood?
Do massive rapid floods cause different geological signatures? Do we know what they are? Do we have examples of them anywhere?
The man in this video is deluded if he thinks any credible geologist thinks the Grand Canyon was formed during the great flood.
Great flood? Your Bible makes a good doorstop. It doesn't have much other usefulness.
@@taterkaze9428 NEITHER DOES YOUR HATE FILLED ATTITUDE
@@watchinglistening If you see hate in what he said it was put there by you. What does that say about you?
@@bushmasterflashexactly.
Whenever someone challenges such statements 9/10 times you are accused of either hatred or ignorance.
Ignorance is believing that a book that was written by many different people over centuries was written by god without any evidence to support that statement.
There never was a great flood and no ark would of been big enough to hold 2 of every species in the world to repopulate the world let alone also carry enough food for them all to eat as well as the humans.
Fairytales the lot of it.
These guys are hilarious and thumbs up to the person that have them a camera
What is creationists weird fixation with calling lots of time “magic” the planet and its geological formations are very, very old. Get over it.
Started with flat land under which was deposited multiple sedimentary beds that experienced gradual uplift (orogenic?) beneath an existing river course and erosion of the river kept up with regional uplift and eventually formed the Grand Canyon in the process. Most likely it was not catastrophic although intense regional storms could direct such volumes of rain water through the canyon it would appear catastrophic.
Trust me, I read the bible 😂😂
Better than those who did/does not. Truth.
@@rc.... Arguments out of authority are useless
and a few decades of college to get phds
Good one!
I don't trust bible readers or those who claim to be
Argument from personal incredulity. Beautiful example right here.
Love this guy.
I think the evidence is clear these formations took days or weeks in catastrophic floods. Whatever words makes catastrophic seem small, those are the words we need.
Keep trying. But you look ridiculous. Even if the canyon was carved in a few weeks, scientific dating of the strata still shouts out "millions of years."
"SCIENTIFIC DATING"?BY WHOM EXACTLY?
GIVE UP A NOTED REFERENCE OF "PROVEN" FINDINGS!
FURTHER MORE PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SPERATE FINDINGS OF NOTABLE GEOLOGIC STUDIES THAT CONCUR WITH
"MILLIONS OF YEARS OLD"!
MAYBE THE ONLY ONES THAT HEAR THE
"SHOUTING" ARE THE THOSE THAT BELIEVE "ACCEPTED PRECEDENT" THEY READ OR HAVE HEARD, WHICH CAN BE JUST UNPROVEN "THEORIES"!
PROVE "ACCEPTED PRECEDENTS"!!!
OR SHUT UP!
Wrong
After Mt. St. Helens erupted a second time, the lava mixed into mud with the snow. It ran down at high speed and cut a canyon 500' deep, and 5 miles long in a short time.
The commenters can’t stand this. If this is true it changes everything and points to a biblical flood and we know that can’t be true. That would give credence to the idea there was a creator…maybe. That has to be discarded a priori.
@@bencovington1121 no need to discard ........ every human is born atheist, that is the a priori. Theists can't stand that fact.
One things for sure, no matter how long it took, there is a hell of a lot of sand in the lower half of Arizona and down thru Mexico to the Gulf of California. That sand was probably the result of all that erosion. Beautiful and unique area of the USA and Mexico.
The Bible has indeed been recognized as historical. Many discoveries through the years can be traced and referenced in timeline to the Bible.
Secular science comes to YEC and other creationists for new theories. How much science in the Bible was scorned and mocked by secularists for centuries that only today is being 'discovered'? And the finks won't even acknowledge creationists in their papers.
It hasn't.
Dinosaurs enter the chat.
There are parts of the Bible that can be verified as historical, but the Bible is mostly made up of fairy tales and fables.
Did you watch Noah getting it on with his daughters?
Thank you very much. Someone with the ability to understand how hard water is and what it can do when it becomes a massive force. Rocks become marshmallows
He doesn't know what he's talking about.
And you do? Funny how the majority of the comments from neh sayers essentially equates to "nuh uh!!!"
No, YOU don't know what he is talking about. Big difference.
Like Dry Falls in Washington state. It’s hard to imagine the volume of water that formed them.
Glacial lake Missoula had way more water than any hypothetical ancient lake would in the Colorado watershed, and the canyons of the Columbia river are 10 times shallower than the grand canyon. And those canyons weren’t formed by just one flood, they were formed by at least 40 of them over thousands of years. The ice damming mechanism wouldn’t be possible at the latitude of the Colorado even in an ice age climate
Name ONE credible geologist who buys into the Genesis flood story as the reason for the Grand Canyon!
I see you didn't have any takers to your question
James Dwight Dana. He was given the Wollaston Medal. The highest award given by the Geological Society of London. But, it doesn't matter...you'll just say he's "not credible"
It’s understood that the Niagara gorge was formed in a similar fashion, in a manner of days, but on a smaller scale.
The flood?
@@mikesimonian484exactly
There was a wall of water held back in a sheet of ice, 1000 feet high at the end of the Ice Age. This event threw boulders across the landscape as big as houses as it flushed towards the Sea. The wall let go because of the super pressure at the bottom, it had changing the freezing point of water. When the wall let go it flushed the land. Located mid prairies, at the Canadian American border. This was not the lake for the grand canyon but such could be the same scenario.
There’s a thing called latitude buddy, there’s no evidence of glaciers there
Looks like a mining operation. The Grand Canyon was escavated but by whom.
"Ancient Astronauts" maybe ??
Noah was rowing his boat down the Colorado while his wife was feeding the velociraptors 😂
The Flood
The Colorado Plateau rose up (which is why it's, you know, so high up), and the water in the river, being pulled downward by gravity, cut a canyon.
So, like, the river is holding still but the ground is moving against the water? far out man. Did I sound like cheech there? thats the voice that was in my head.
The Bible got it right. Ya know why? Because it’s literally the word of God
Is it the word of God when it's not in Hebrew? When it's not the Old testament? Isn't it just someone else's story?
Where can I pickup a 1st edition signed copy?
Yeah, yeah, we know. The Grand Canyon was created during Noah's flood while Jesus was playing with the dinosaurs.
No proof that the bible is gods word.
Plenty of evidence that it is written by many people over centuries.
Faith is not facts or evidence.
Most modern geologists ascribe tectonic motion as well as erosion to form the grand canyon. If it was solely formed through erosion l, catastrophic or passive, you would see more horseshoe bends in the river. This simply couldn't have been done in less than a year
Firstly science doesn't disprove the Bible, science however was disproved by science itself because science itself doesn't make claims, scientists do and look at how many times scientists have corrected themselves? And the Bible has not yet bren proven wrong. ❤✝️
@@MrWeezer55 Firstly science doesn't disprove the Bible, science however was disproved by science itself because science itself doesn't make claims, scientists do and look at how many times scientists have corrected themselves? And the Bible has not yet been proven wrong. ❤✝
The Bible is a work of fiction.
@@rc....there is no evidence to support any of the claims made in the bible and faith is not evidence ever.
@@stevemeredith9022 sure there are, plenty too, but it is pointless if you choose to reject any historical proofs especially if you don't do it yourself. There are plenty good apologetics out there who has tons of evidence but you can reject all of them so that is your prerogative. As for science...it is scientists who make claims and throughout the ages how many scientific theories have been corrected and updated and yet you choose to put more faith in science. What do you think you believing in science is? It is faith too.
One hypothesis: The canyon was formed by the uplift of the strata against the erosional forces of the water over an extensive period of time.
A long fairy tale
There you have it encapsulated in “ personally I like the idea “
No. Genesis is not history.
LOL, funny, but more scientists today agree with the Bible as history than don't. Even atheist Bible scholars are in awe at the accuracy. Not the God parts, but how well-preserved it is when recording eyewitness events.
@@marschlosser4540can you back that up with some study about it or is that something your pastor said to you?
@@marschlosser4540really? Who said that? And what about the dinosaurs...the bible is fiction made up by humans to control other humans through fear and intimidation...
Genesis is history. It's biblical history.
Hahahahaaha.... "most geologists have abandoned that idea...really? Care to cite a few and their respective publications on the subject. No? I didn't think so.
Another expert
When I visited the Grand Canyon the first thing I thought was that the river could not have done this.
@cliffcurtistruth .... Ooh , so what did you think when you analyzed the worlds most powerful computer chip ?
We have geologists who literally proved it took over 5 million years
Doesn’t explain all the massive erosion of all the side tributaries dumping into the main channel, nor does it explain even more erosion in the upper Colorado where the lake itself was suppose to reside. It’s not that the Colorado eroded down into the canyon. It’s the fact that the land over millions of years rose up around the Colorado and it’s many tributaries while the network of rivers tried to stay at the same relative elevation. The land rose up as a big wide plain while the rivers cut through.
This is what you get when the religious, who believe in the six thousand year old earth, try to make these things come right. Millions of years stick a stake in the heart of their narative.
This is the way the scab lands of Oregon were formed. A glacial dam collapsed, and a massive wall of water eroded the land down to bedrock and then eroded the bedrock. It was 2 geologists, acting independently, who discovered this decades ago.
Yes and it looks completely different then the Grand Canyon.
The shallowest of streams make the loudest noise
Umm, I have lived on the Great Lakes my entire life. We have this place called Niagara Falls. If you could fathom how much water has been going over those falls, for eons. The average flow rate is 84,000 cu ft of water every second. It has eroded a large gorge, but that still took time, lots of time. By contrast that’s about 27.7 years of flow of the Niagara River. The flow would have been considerably higher when the mile high slab of ice melted after the last ice age.
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What about the glaciers from 10,000-20,000 years ago? Would that have any magic in it to help?
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Catistrophic erosian happened when the ice dam broke on ancient lake Missoula. Tere is a canyon in Eastern Washinton, but not nearly as large and deep as the Grand Canyon
...and other features of a catastrophic flood that are no where to be seen in the grand canyon.
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My question is do the vertical layers of the canyon show different archeological ages or are they all dated the same?
Take millions of hours of study, by thousands of highly trained and experienced geologists, throw it all out the window then pick up a book with no credible facts or data and desperately attempt to get it to fit your theory. These people can vote.
As a construction guy I've seen my fair share of drainage ditches. The Grand Canyon is just a huge drainage ditch when seen from a high altitude. Mt. St. Hellens now has a canyon that was carved out catastrophically after the eruption melted snow and it ran downhill. The water and debris carved a deep canyon right through solid rock in a matter of days.
On Mt St Helens the water cut through loose ash and debris not solid rocks in a matter of days there is a huge difference. If you have to post lies in order to make your point sound more convincing it invalidates your point. Unlike religion science doesn't need to lie to uphold its claims.
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I think it's significant that that Bible talked of a worldwide flood and when it took place long before science proved the same flood.
The Grand Canion was cut in well under ten million years. I live near Queensland's Brisbane's five million year year old bed. I am told they are similar in age.
He should tell us the one about how all the animals on the planet survived extinction by walking two by two up a plank to an ark somewhere in the Middle East. Just to be consistent. He should tell us that one.
The planet at one time was covered with water, eventually it started to dry up. Erosion happened over millions of years slowly eroding the Grand Canyon.