How to do Kani Basami | Scissors Throw | 蟹挟 | Crab Throw
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- Опубликовано: 31 мар 2024
- In this video I am showing you how to do the (illegal) throw Kani Basami, Scissors Throw for Judo and BJJ (though it is banned in both)
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Thank you very much for keeping all techniques alive within Judo. Judo is amazing and beautiful but I do wish that more moves were allowed in Judo competitions. That doesn't stop me from training Judo every week though :)
Doing Kani Basami is normally made from the side holding the arm. Beside this, it was valuable technique in competitions some decades ago.
Holding the arm makes it much weaker, holding the lapel gives you more control over the shoulders, enabling a higher chance of pulling your opponent over; consider a collar drag in BJJ for example.
You make look everything so smooth and easy.
It's the right call that this throw is illegal. It doesn't result in hurt knees it results in life changing injuries. And it's far to easy to to make a mistake.
The numbers don't lie. It's important to retain this knowledge via demos but it's not unfortunate that this throw is banned by the IJF and many many other grappling sports.
Thanks sensei for showing these beautiful techniques ❤ hopefully I get to see more prohibited techniques because knowing both official and forbidden techniques can only one call himself/herself a Judoka ~
This was amazing thank you
Salut messieurs merci beaucoup pour votre analyse à bientôt j'espère
It's very interesting you explain this technique. Since it is very dangerous could you show a counter ?
In japanese jujitsu it s very usefull if uke i taking your leg after a kick
This very beautiful and effective technique is prohibited under the current IJF (International Judo Federation) and DJB (German Judo Federation) regulations. The prohibition can be found in the appendix to Article 27 (Prohibited Acts) under paragraph 29 of the IJF Competition Rules. Has this ban been lifted?
No, it is still banned 🙂
What are the common mistakes in doing this throw/sweep that can make it dangerous for uke?
Do you also use this during randori?
I have been quite interested in this technique for a while but the info of how to actually do it safely seems to be lacking.
It’s a dangerous throw and is banned across all organisations so I would only use it in randori if my partner has agreed to allow me to try it.
I have a genuine question about this. Kani Basami is known to be one of the most dangerous throw in Judo/BJJ. It's well documented and a lot of instructors agree with this online. I understand it still important to show how this technique can be done safely but nonetheless, accidents will occur in a sparring situation especially with beginner judokas. I wonder if there is some well-defined policy for banned techniques as such during Mr Sampson classes at Sobell Judo Club or any judo club really to mitigate possible accident? Can any beginner or visitors in a class can try this freely? 🥋 🙏
It was bunned after great Yamashita injured his angle at his match against Endo who sttacked with Kani basami. Justified decision!
Is it Illegal bc people jump into Uki s near knee injuring the knee?
There are multiple ways for the throw to cause an injury. The issue of momentum is a huge one, but it can cause devastating damage even when done slowly. This is the moment it was banned. ruclips.net/video/glwYurrthcc/видео.html Yamashita is one of the greatest judoka alive and this moment basically robbed him of a gold medal (he still won gold in the next olympics) and he didn't do anything wrong here. His opponent merely attempted the throw when Yamashita's leg was too far back and boom, welcome to snap town.
"unfortunately" .... ???? are u clueless to why its "illegal" in sports?
surely u know why. and surely it makes sense. and surely its not "unfortunate".... wtf
Yeah most people don't know about the 1980 Yasuhiro Yamashita vs. Sumio Endo episode. Most of the world wanted the technique gone all the way back in the 1960's but Kodokan was very mush against it. Go look up the video and when Japan suddenly had a guy taken out that was supposed to win all the gold medals for them, they quickly changed their stance on this one.
Too many had they knees and legs broken with this one.
I'm sure he's aware of the context behind the banning of it, but (from what I've seen) Sampson has strong opinions about 1) the attitude that should be taken towards when you even attempt a technique and 2) how much weight certain political pressures have *in addition to practical ones* when decisions are made to change rules in competition.
So he knows the background for it and certainly knows about injuries, but he likely doesn't draw the line in the same place in terms of when/why he'd outright ban something from competition. We all have slightly different perspectives, sets of priorities, and subjective assessments of danger.
That's my take, at least.
Well these decisions are made from statistics and we have a high obligation to protect people in our sport.
Judo is the gentle way and the means we should be able to compete with as little injuries as possible. Jigoro Kano wanted a sport where people could compete and still go to work the next day.
So opinions really doesn't matter in this case, but the numbers do. @@JudoGeoff
@Stoiss it's funny that you're saying this to someone who does research (like actual quantitative research), so yes, I get the importance of numbers. But regardless of the fact that we have injury data, there are plenty of things that you can't quantify. You can't put a numerical value on the importance of a technique for historical reasons, or the impact of allowing a given technique in competition on the decision-making process and dynamic nature of play. The "completeness" of an art is similarly not possibly to quantify.
Even the final decision to ban or allow a technique, while informed by the data we might have access to, is still made based on *subjective interpretation* of those numbers, because it isn't as though we have some objective and agreed-upon threshold for injury rates that's based in some kind of external reality or truth. Ultimately, human beings are looking at the numbers and deciding based on their own internal value systems whether or not those numbers represent "too much" risk, harm, etc. Hopefully that makes sense.
Note: I'm not arguing for or against this specific technique. I'm not taking a stance in that regard. My point is simply that it's more complicated than "We have numbers, so it's settled."