A worse example of LEO misuse of a firearm is the 2 Houston deputies that opened fire into an apartment at a woman who lived there. They actually reloaded and kept firing. Like 30+ rounds. That whole department should be retrained.
Attempt of murder, illegal discharge of a firearm in city limits, public endangerment, oh im sure there's 1 or 2 more charges as a civilian! Higher standards should equal enforcement of the those standards are enforced, which will be a by product of culture.😮
There was a cop convicted of manslaughter who did just that, but it was his reflection in the window. He said he saw a person with a handgun in the house. Upon investigation from his own body cam, he did see a weapon...his own. Too late. Shot and killed the lady that called the cops for help.
There's a video of a cop demonstrating a gun to a classroom full of students, stating he's the only person in the room qualified to handle a firearm, mere seconds before firing a negligent discharge.
@@ElementofKindness🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I remember that one. He shot the Glock 22 talking about “I’m the only one in this room professional enough that I know of to carry this Glock .40” and 💥. That was gold right there
Remember the FBI agent who shot himself in the night club. The cop who shot his partner by “accident” all he did was unholster his firearm. The 20+ year training officer who shot and killed the kid in the car who thought she pulled her taser. The list goes on and on and on.
My department only qualifies twice a year, and there is NO mandate to practice in between qualifications. There are officers on my shift that only shoot their duty weapon when it is time to qualify. Qualifications is a 50 round course of fire where you must have 100% bullet accountability, and score 80% or better. We fire the course 3 times, and you must pass at least one of the three.time to be considered "qualified" to carry on the department. The course is shot from various distances, shooting at a static target, and is under a time limit to induce "combat stress". This should scare everyone, and it also shuts down the argument that police should only have certain firearms!
Your department is above average qualifying biannualy, most only require once a year. Although getting 3 chances to pass is Squirley. I am a member of our church security. We qualify biannualy, but you get one try cold. No practice before qual. We like to hold ourselves to 90% out of 50 rounds on target, although 80% is our threshold. We use the FBI qual standard course. Edit: by the way, thank you for your service.
That is wild. There should be 5 shot segments in the azones at 15 yards in 3.5-4 seconds from the draw. Or a series of drills that are similar to this. - The air marshall test comes to mind.
Holy shit! My "enhanced" add-on for my carry class a couple years ago had the same requirements (50 shots, varying distance from 3-15 yds, timed, 80%+), but we only get one chance. One of my college classmates (24) had never shot a gun in his life, and he got 98%. It's crazy that your department doesn't require anything more challenging. I wish we'd done the course three times, faster each time, just for fun. lol
That's crazy about no practice in between qualifications. I'm retired now (thank God), the department I worked for also qualified twice a year. We also had firearms training once a month during the year. We had a "shot house" we used for active shooter situations, normal building searches etc. I was very appreciative for all the training our sheriff gave us.
@user-kf3pc7yg3e that's the way it should be. I think pretty much only swat teams get that training now. I have a buddy who is swat trained. He's one of our team members at church. We learn a ton from him.
There was an incident at my local gun range with police while training from a negligent discharge. A lot of NJ cops acts like we are just incompetent surfs of the state. Also, thanks for attorneys on retainer plug Paul. I dropped us law shield for them.. and again thanks for taking the time to write your book; it is very insightful and a refreshingly unbiased, realistic take on the subject.
I've spent 27 years in law enforcement. Finally calling it next year. It is a myth that most cops are experts. Some are pretty dang good but that's in the minority. My agency shoots 4 times a year; 2 times which are super easy state mandated qual course. I know how important gunfighting is. I belong to a range and shoot off-duty at least twice a month. But I know that I am the exception. These clowns proclaiming they are experts just because they wear a badge and gun for work everyday that don't train are exactly that, clowns. Crazy the amount of arrogance in the career field.
No. We the public understand that the vast majority of police are barely competent at best to carry a firearm. Those of us that are firearms enthusiast are appalled at the ignorance of the vast majority of officers that carry a firearm as part of their job. Its like a carpenter that cannot operate a hammer.
It’s because of the upper brass who are appointed “yes men” when I got the leadership role to change everything I could, I did! Now I’m retired mainly because of that but stop bashing all officers. The same way you don’t want to be defined by punk gang members who do stupid things at a gun range we don’t like being defined by appointed, not elected, chiefs and PRO’s. We do the best we can under all the circumstances which we are forced to comply with.
Decades ago after I described my security handgun qualification course to friends in a bar ,an off duty cop sitting nearby muttered to his buddy, " They shouldn't be showin' these guys how to shoot like that."
I had to take a CLEET certified course to get my PI license. I was at a police/law enforcement qualifying course in Oklahoma. I scored 100. The instructor wrote smart ass on my target. He said most local deputies and city police shoot the hell out of his target frames and all around the targets. He said the best shots were the hiway patrol guys but not many could hit the side of a barn. You see it on the news all the time, 38 shots fired and the suspect was hit in the leg once... If I ever need protection I'll count on myself not the local law enforcement... 😊
I worked in Law Enforcement in Texas for 19 years, went to San Antonio PD Academy, there were probably 40 of us that use to shoot at least every other weekend … Went to Yearly Qualifying, had Regular Patrol Officers that would have cob webs in the bottom of their holster and even in their barrels … I know Officers that in 20 years Never Pulled their firearm accept at annual quals …
Worked with many police chief's working in the firearm industry, & they don't know squat about firearms or the laws that go with them. I have personally witnessed many police officers & chiefs who regularly VIOLATE FEDERAL FIREARMS LAWS. When I would "Call them out" on the violation, their response was ALWAYS..."Its O.K., Im a cop." My response was always..."The FEDS DON'T CARE that you're a cop." They, then would flee from the building like cowards, liars & theives.
Well, that depends on what they were doing and in what context. Just because you have a badge does not mean you can own personal NFA items without the right paperwork. As agencies LE is exempt from many things.
I’m 79 years old and I used to carry what was called Mexican carry. A 1911 tucked into my belt. I couldn’t find a holster that was comfortable. I have never had a negligent discharge!
Some years ago, A police officer in Beaver Falls Pennsylvania was practicing his fast draw in the locker room at the police station. He shot himself in the leg with his Block service pistol. The police Department blamed the incident on the Glock and sued Glock, and lost. It was proven that the officer had to have pulled the trigger when he drew the weapon, just like Alec Baldwin.🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃
Kinda reminds me when my Drill Sergeant said, if you injury yourself horsing around I'll have you charged with damaging government property. Maybe they should consider this...
@blackonblack...9244 When my friend Arron was on range duty, a recruit internationally shot himself in the leg. They amputated his leg and charged him, and he was sentenced to 16 years
I'm so glad to see a gun tuber actually call the tyrant police out for the anti-gun morons that they really are. I see a lot of the 2A community, especially the gun tubers say how much they support the police and offer them free training and pretend that they are on our side. When in reality most cops do not like that we have gun rights
Once assisted an officer who was safely handling a pistol, but it was not his, and he could not clear it. The pistol had a frame mounted safety that locked the slide. He seemed unfamiliar with that type. Not surprising since the issue Glocks do not have frame safeties. He was polite and professional and allowed me to clear it for him.
I am reminded of the ATF agent firearm instructor who told his class that he was the only one in the room professional enough to use a glock. And of course he shot himself in the foot when he went to holster it.
This happened when I lived in California. The Los Angeles Sheriffs Department was doing training behind a movie theater and one of the deputy got shot by another deputy.
Never tried it with ham, but the beans and rice looked tasty! We always use Zatarans at our house. Thanks for keeping us informed on the latest. Always on point! Thomas, Mississippi!!!
Former Tribal PD officer, and firearms instructor for that department, was hired as new chief in small farming town. First day on the job he shot a hole in the ceiling with a riot gun.
I've been shooting since I was 9, I'm 65 now. In all that time, hunting, shooting for fun, shooting competition, whatever, I've had one accidental/negligent discharge 8 years ago. I got sooooOOOoOOO lucky, it went into a 6 pack of paper towels. I certainly wasn't aiming at it, my booger hook got into the trigger when it shouldn't have been there while walking to the safe (yes, stuffed full of ammo even in the safe, empty is useless). Anyway, be safe folks, most everyone knows what to do and what not to do, and even then, don't let your attention drift.
As a retired LEO Range Master & firearms instructor, I can tell you about 10-15% of the cops are really knowledgeable about firearms. Most only shoot their duty weapons and off duty weapons when it’s required. I’d also say that about 10% barely qualifies when required.
Coincidentally, the bully in high school who stole my gloves became a deputy sheriff.. all these years later, I wonder what his true motivation was for wanting to be a "police" "man"...
When my father was qualifying for his first CCW in Chico CA, the only 2 students who could not shoot well enough to get their permits were active duty police officers
I can live with the word "accidentally". The #2 definition in one dictionary that I just looked at is this: "happening without intent or through carelessness and often with unfortunate results".
Pulled up to da range In La ,cops were shooting sheet on the ground in a circle ! I ask the guys why they were doing that ,one said we do this every weekend ,I yelled out y’all do it wrong every weekend ,thought quick and said I better shut up ,(won’t be able to drive there anymore)
"I'm the only one in this room responsible enough to carry this gun." - A police officer, about three seconds before negligently firing his weapon into the floor at a safety class.
I seem to remember a statistic that showed LE had the highest rate of accidental discharges of any gun using group. I was a firefighter and witnessed an AD by an officer while clearing a shotgun, fortunately pointed up but right next to me, my partner and a victim.
the female Sgt was responding to shots fired, kind of hard to discipline her because she was backing up the nutjob shooting at an acorn. the nutjob that quit needs to be charged for sure.
The worst firearm safety violations I've seem were by uniformed military. I saw a major, West Point graduate and instructor, present his M9, finger on the trigger, point in at an unarmed contractor to demonstrate his prowess with a pistol. I saw an USAF 1LT seize an Army CW2's M9 while grabbing him around the neck and point the muzzle at the CW2's head (he wanted to show the CW2's holster was unsafe). Whenever I hear the comment, "Only the military and police should have guns," I launch into a rant about this. Combat arms folks are totally different. All these were REMFs.
I left law enforcement many many years ago. The pistol is a part of the uniform most don't want to have. My experience was people were passed along. They are the experts
The dang thang just went off... After the whistle blew, and he reached for his holstered gun, and he drew it, and he squeezed the grip and frame and trigger under the unfamiliar adrenaline dump... Goshdang ol' Tupperware gun!
As a general rule never ask a cop about the two things they should know best: firearms and the law. They will get you dead or imprisoned. (:General rule," I said. Take a deep breath before beating your keyboard, y'all.)
I guarantee the majority of us in this community could outperform the average officer in firearm proficiency. Maybe 30% of the local police in any given area could match the performance of alot of us lol. Pretty comical.
I can look all them guys standing there in their eyes and tell you none would stand a chance up against a militia. Call your mamma or backup like cowards do
I'm Cajun by blood (7th Generation descendant of Joseph Broussard, Beausoleil), but because my dad was Air Force, grew up in California. Educated in CA and graduated the POST in Northern California. Moved to Crowley, LA and hired onto the PD there in 1991. Graduated ALETA, Lafayette, that same year and earned my Louisiana POST. I literally lasted less than a year there before just walking off... I've worked some sketchy jobs, but that place... Wow!
I was a Deputy for fifteen years. The only training that we and officers receive in Ga and is most likely the same nationwide, is a firearms familiarization for a couple of hours, then qualification at the range. Then you have to re-qualify in in service once a year, in some agencies twice a year. If you want more, to go above and beyond is on you, like practicing at a range. A lot just do the minimum required by POST. They are not experts by any stretch of the imagination. I received more training every year in the Army than they do in their respective agencies.
Since I was a very young boy, it was instilled in me that it is 'ALWAYS, the unloaded gun that kills'! That being said, negligence, mishandling and complacency are the main cause(s) of incidents like this Police Chief. Likewise, incidents and situations do occur. Just a simple fact. Merely every such encounter like this WAS preventable. Highly accurate; however, just because an individual has been crested with a badge does not equate to being an 'expert'. Having presented this video, only reiterates the nuance of utilizing gun safety rules AT ALL TIMES! First and foremost, do not EVER point your weapon towards anything that you are not willing to kill, maim or destroy! Whether a civilian or a L.E.O., this incident serves as a stark lesson to be more vigilant and aware while handling any firearm, ammunition and accessories.
We used to have a city cop in our town, a big fat guy, and while exiting his squad car one day his gun somehow got caught on the steering wheel and shop himself in the foot lol.
Just wanna say, you should check out the Police Chief in Prescott Valley AZ a few years ago left his weapon in a public restroom in the local library, he was let go quickly LOL
The DEA agent in a school with a loaded gun telling he's the only one qualified to handle this powerful 40 caliber Glock and then proceeds to shoot himself with it.
As a former LEO trainer, I can say, MY officers were quite good (monthly training, STRICT standards, etc.). Other agencies, NOT SO MUCH! The average hit rate nation wide is about 40%. Most officers do NOT know how to operate any firearm other than their issue sidearm. Most Academies require 40 hours of firearms training to be a licensed officer. After that, once a year qualification is all that is required. It is simply too expensive to do so. Oh, BTW. I have Marc as MY Attorney for a reason. And I have the Attorneys on Retainer for a reason as well!!!
And to think they want to disarm private citizens?
A worse example of LEO misuse of a firearm is the 2 Houston deputies that opened fire into an apartment at a woman who lived there. They actually reloaded and kept firing. Like 30+ rounds. That whole department should be retrained.
Attempt of murder, illegal discharge of a firearm in city limits, public endangerment, oh im sure there's 1 or 2 more charges as a civilian! Higher standards should equal enforcement of the those standards are enforced, which will be a by product of culture.😮
Re(s)trained, more like it.👈💯🤦♂️
Dont forget about the ACORN COP.
They were both female, right? I saw the video. They should resign or be fired at least.
What about the teen that just got killed while following orders? Over 500 shots by the cops. And, of course acorn cops
Hell, he has a higher hit rate than most others.
Don’t trust any court system
You nailed it Paul. The good old double standard!
He shot the mirror in self defense! The guy in the mirror pointed a gun at him after all... Sadly, he likely still missed the guy in the mirror.
There was a cop convicted of manslaughter who did just that, but it was his reflection in the window. He said he saw a person with a handgun in the house. Upon investigation from his own body cam, he did see a weapon...his own. Too late. Shot and killed the lady that called the cops for help.
There's a video of a cop demonstrating a gun to a classroom full of students, stating he's the only person in the room qualified to handle a firearm, mere seconds before firing a negligent discharge.
@@ElementofKindness🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I remember that one. He shot the Glock 22 talking about “I’m the only one in this room professional enough that I know of to carry this Glock .40” and 💥. That was gold right there
Lol
Remember the FBI agent who shot himself in the night club. The cop who shot his partner by “accident” all he did was unholster his firearm. The 20+ year training officer who shot and killed the kid in the car who thought she pulled her taser. The list goes on and on and on.
Or, the AFT _homeboy_ who shot himself while demonstrating "Professionalism" and "Gun Safety" to a classroom full of school kids?
The cop who mag dumped a car over an acorn.
My department only qualifies twice a year, and there is NO mandate to practice in between qualifications. There are officers on my shift that only shoot their duty weapon when it is time to qualify. Qualifications is a 50 round course of fire where you must have 100% bullet accountability, and score 80% or better. We fire the course 3 times, and you must pass at least one of the three.time to be considered "qualified" to carry on the department. The course is shot from various distances, shooting at a static target, and is under a time limit to induce "combat stress".
This should scare everyone, and it also shuts down the argument that police should only have certain firearms!
Your department is above average qualifying biannualy, most only require once a year. Although getting 3 chances to pass is Squirley.
I am a member of our church security. We qualify biannualy, but you get one try cold. No practice before qual. We like to hold ourselves to 90% out of 50 rounds on target, although 80% is our threshold. We use the FBI qual standard course.
Edit: by the way, thank you for your service.
That is wild. There should be 5 shot segments in the azones at 15 yards in 3.5-4 seconds from the draw. Or a series of drills that are similar to this.
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The air marshall test comes to mind.
Holy shit! My "enhanced" add-on for my carry class a couple years ago had the same requirements (50 shots, varying distance from 3-15 yds, timed, 80%+), but we only get one chance. One of my college classmates (24) had never shot a gun in his life, and he got 98%. It's crazy that your department doesn't require anything more challenging. I wish we'd done the course three times, faster each time, just for fun. lol
That's crazy about no practice in between qualifications. I'm retired now (thank God), the department I worked for also qualified twice a year. We also had firearms training once a month during the year. We had a "shot house" we used for active shooter situations, normal building searches etc. I was very appreciative for all the training our sheriff gave us.
@user-kf3pc7yg3e that's the way it should be. I think pretty much only swat teams get that training now. I have a buddy who is swat trained. He's one of our team members at church. We learn a ton from him.
There was an incident at my local gun range with police while training from a negligent discharge. A lot of NJ cops acts like we are just incompetent surfs of the state. Also, thanks for attorneys on retainer plug Paul. I dropped us law shield for them.. and again thanks for taking the time to write your book; it is very insightful and a refreshingly unbiased, realistic take on the subject.
Two tear justice systems (double standards), as you stated.
*tier
Where I work there is no such thing as an "accident". Its an ill result due to the lack/carelessness of the individual(s) involved.
Good lord !! That pic of the chief in front of those officers could be an advertisement for dunk-n-donuts !!!!🤣🤣🤣
And Kevlar trousers
This reminds me of the police officer that shot himself in the leg inside a classroom of elementary students.
I've spent 27 years in law enforcement. Finally calling it next year. It is a myth that most cops are experts. Some are pretty dang good but that's in the minority. My agency shoots 4 times a year; 2 times which are super easy state mandated qual course. I know how important gunfighting is. I belong to a range and shoot off-duty at least twice a month. But I know that I am the exception. These clowns proclaiming they are experts just because they wear a badge and gun for work everyday that don't train are exactly that, clowns. Crazy the amount of arrogance in the career field.
No. We the public understand that the vast majority of police are barely competent at best to carry a firearm. Those of us that are firearms enthusiast are appalled at the ignorance of the vast majority of officers that carry a firearm as part of their job. Its like a carpenter that cannot operate a hammer.
4 times a year???
@@donsal.t.1765 Truth. The others two shoots are a skills/fundamentals and a night shoot. 🤦♂️
It’s because of the upper brass who are appointed “yes men” when I got the leadership role to change everything I could, I did! Now I’m retired mainly because of that but stop bashing all officers. The same way you don’t want to be defined by punk gang members who do stupid things at a gun range we don’t like being defined by appointed, not elected, chiefs and PRO’s. We do the best we can under all the circumstances which we are forced to comply with.
And how many people did you screw over because your pride gotten away😮😢😂
Decades ago after I described my security handgun qualification course to friends in a bar ,an off duty cop sitting nearby muttered to his buddy, " They shouldn't be showin' these guys how to shoot like that."
I had to take a CLEET certified course to get my PI license. I was at a police/law enforcement qualifying course in Oklahoma. I scored 100. The instructor wrote smart ass on my target. He said most local deputies and city police shoot the hell out of his target frames and all around the targets. He said the best shots were the hiway patrol guys but not many could hit the side of a barn. You see it on the news all the time, 38 shots fired and the suspect was hit in the leg once... If I ever need protection I'll count on myself not the local law enforcement... 😊
Instead of "He shot my arm off!"
This was, "He shot his leg off!"
I worked in Law Enforcement in Texas for 19 years, went to San Antonio PD Academy, there were probably 40 of us that use to shoot at least every other weekend … Went to Yearly Qualifying, had Regular Patrol Officers that would have cob webs in the bottom of their holster and even in their barrels … I know Officers that in 20 years Never Pulled their firearm accept at annual quals …
Worked with many police chief's working in the firearm industry, & they don't know squat about firearms or the laws that go with them. I have personally witnessed many police officers & chiefs who regularly VIOLATE FEDERAL FIREARMS LAWS. When I would "Call them out" on the violation, their response was ALWAYS..."Its O.K., Im a cop." My response was always..."The FEDS DON'T CARE that you're a cop." They, then would flee from the building like cowards, liars & theives.
Well, that depends on what they were doing and in what context. Just because you have a badge does not mean you can own personal NFA items without the right paperwork. As agencies LE is exempt from many things.
I’m 79 years old and I used to carry what was called Mexican carry. A 1911 tucked into my belt. I couldn’t find a holster that was comfortable. I have never had a negligent discharge!
The cop who MURDERED unarmed, U.S. Air Force veteran, Ashli Babbitt, left his gun in a public toilet stall.
And a kid found it.
Better himself than us😎
THE BLUE WALL OF SILENCE PROTECTS THE BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN BLUE!!!!
The Leg probably refused to put its hands up, became belligerent, wouldn't show ID, and was Resisting...
Play Stupid Leg-Games, Win Stupid Leg-Prizes!
At a training site! Unbelievable. What happens when he is on the street?
Some years ago, A police officer in Beaver Falls Pennsylvania was practicing his fast draw in the locker room at the police station. He shot himself in the leg with his Block service pistol. The police Department blamed the incident on the Glock and sued Glock, and lost. It was proven that the officer had to have pulled the trigger when he drew the weapon, just like Alec Baldwin.🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃
Unbe-f**king-believable!
Considering it's physically impossible for a Glock to fire without the trigger being pulled, that was a stupid lawsuit to file lol.
I agree. Playing quick draw in the locker room sort of indicates to me that they might be hiring from the Darwin Awards nominees.
Yup, you or I would be charged. And let’s not forget the ATF agent in a gun safety class that shot himself in the leg. Another expert…
Should really treat government,
The way government treats us.
Imo.
agreed
I go to the range almost weekly, was in the combat arms for two decades, and I'm still paranoid about accidental discharges and super careful.
I wonder if he was "just following orders."😂
I'll still stand by my statement on your other video, 70% of LE barely make their qualifications.
A law enforcement agency would charge a victim of a gun shot wound neglected use of a weapon.
Police Chief or Police queef?
Officer down! Shooter on the loose! The suspect is armed and dangerous! I wonder if they'll charge him for attempted murder of a police officer 🤔
Kinda reminds me when my Drill Sergeant said, if you injury yourself horsing around I'll have you charged with damaging government property. Maybe they should consider this...
@blackonblack...9244 When my friend Arron was on range duty, a recruit internationally shot himself in the leg. They amputated his leg and charged him, and he was sentenced to 16 years
I'm so glad to see a gun tuber actually call the tyrant police out for the anti-gun morons that they really are. I see a lot of the 2A community, especially the gun tubers say how much they support the police and offer them free training and pretend that they are on our side. When in reality most cops do not like that we have gun rights
Stay tuned! Pauls a trip, he’s a great guy and we’re lucky to have him
What?
Do they charge you with attempted murder on yourself? He probably never played with B B. guns when he was little
They used to be able to. It was decriminalized pretty much everywhere a long time ago.
Pew pew pew pew 😂
No they don’t charge you with anything but you really think another officer like this would charge a friend after he shot himself
I'd like to know if Officer Cheddar Bob passed his qualification.
Once assisted an officer who was safely handling a pistol, but it was not his, and he could not clear it. The pistol had a frame mounted safety that locked the slide. He seemed unfamiliar with that type. Not surprising since the issue Glocks do not have frame safeties. He was polite and professional and allowed me to clear it for him.
I am reminded of the ATF agent firearm instructor who told his class that he was the only one in the room professional enough to use a glock. And of course he shot himself in the foot when he went to holster it.
You are 100% correct Paul.
Stick to civil asset forfeiture swindles and saving cats from trees, ‘Chief.’
I worked with a guy who had been a cop previously. He hated guns and knives.
This happened when I lived in California. The Los Angeles Sheriffs Department was doing training behind a movie theater and one of the deputy got shot by another deputy.
Never tried it with ham, but the beans and rice looked tasty! We always use Zatarans at our house. Thanks for keeping us informed on the latest. Always on point! Thomas, Mississippi!!!
Former Tribal PD officer, and firearms instructor for that department, was hired as new chief in small farming town. First day on the job he shot a hole in the ceiling with a riot gun.
I've been shooting since I was 9, I'm 65 now. In all that time, hunting, shooting for fun, shooting competition, whatever, I've had one accidental/negligent discharge 8 years ago. I got sooooOOOoOOO lucky, it went into a 6 pack of paper towels. I certainly wasn't aiming at it, my booger hook got into the trigger when it shouldn't have been there while walking to the safe (yes, stuffed full of ammo even in the safe, empty is useless). Anyway, be safe folks, most everyone knows what to do and what not to do, and even then, don't let your attention drift.
As a retired LEO Range Master & firearms instructor, I can tell you about 10-15% of the cops are really knowledgeable about firearms. Most only shoot their duty weapons and off duty weapons when it’s required. I’d also say that about 10% barely qualifies when required.
Most dont train they just want the pay check
Yep
Coincidentally, the bully in high school who stole my gloves became a deputy sheriff.. all these years later, I wonder what his true motivation was for wanting to be a "police" "man"...
@@wingatebarraclough3553 to continue his wrath because he was a bad child, with shit parents
I always thought that was just a metaphor.
Not one "Good Apple" in the entire LE bushel.
When my father was qualifying for his first CCW in Chico CA, the only 2 students who could not shoot well enough to get their permits were active duty police officers
Checking in from Pennsylvania.
I went to a range the other day. It's been 20 years since I fired my freedom stick. I'm not unhappy with my performance. Still got it.
Just like riding a bike. Stay proficient and make sure if possible, teach your skills to the people you love. Teach them how to protect their lives.
The reporter kept using the word "accidentally", when she should have been saying "negligently".
just goes to show how negligent the media is.....
I can live with the word "accidentally". The #2 definition in one dictionary that I just looked at is this: "happening without intent or through carelessness and often with unfortunate results".
Pulled up to da range In La ,cops were shooting sheet on the ground in a circle ! I ask the guys why they were doing that ,one said we do this every weekend ,I yelled out y’all do it wrong every weekend ,thought quick and said I better shut up ,(won’t be able to drive there anymore)
"I'm the only one in this room responsible enough to carry this gun." - A police officer, about three seconds before negligently firing his weapon into the floor at a safety class.
De Oppresso Liber 18C! 👍🏼
I seem to remember a statistic that showed LE had the highest rate of accidental discharges of any gun using group. I was a firefighter and witnessed an AD by an officer while clearing a shotgun, fortunately pointed up but right next to me, my partner and a victim.
The acorn cop quit and the female sergeant that mag dumped with him had no discipline against her . Yea they covered it all up to protect their own
the female Sgt was responding to shots fired, kind of hard to discipline her because she was backing up the nutjob shooting at an acorn. the nutjob that quit needs to be charged for sure.
A high-ranking cop in Miami-Dade tried to self-unalive a few months ago.
One or two of those Capitol police did the same.
I’m already signed up.
Please keep the information and conversation going forward
The worst firearm safety violations I've seem were by uniformed military. I saw a major, West Point graduate and instructor, present his M9, finger on the trigger, point in at an unarmed contractor to demonstrate his prowess with a pistol. I saw an USAF 1LT seize an Army CW2's M9 while grabbing him around the neck and point the muzzle at the CW2's head (he wanted to show the CW2's holster was unsafe). Whenever I hear the comment, "Only the military and police should have guns," I launch into a rant about this. Combat arms folks are totally different. All these were REMFs.
Wasn't it the head of ATF that couldn't remove the slide off a handgun while talking luve to rwporters just a few weeks ago?
I left law enforcement many many years ago. The pistol is a part of the uniform most don't want to have. My experience was people were passed along.
They are the experts
I personally no some stories about incompetent police from my area and it's unbelievable..
Wonder if the chief will blame the gun be it Glock, Sig or M&P? Could that be the MO with a lot of “it just went off” claims.
The dang thang just went off...
After the whistle blew, and he reached for his holstered gun, and he drew it, and he squeezed the grip and frame and trigger under the unfamiliar adrenaline dump...
Goshdang ol' Tupperware gun!
I gave up on police being firearms experts when I watch the video they were trying to figure out how to shoot 9mm through a 10mm glock
As a general rule never ask a cop about the two things they should know best: firearms and the law. They will get you dead or imprisoned.
(:General rule," I said. Take a deep breath before beating your keyboard, y'all.)
Going to 100% blame those p320s for sure
I guarantee the majority of us in this community could outperform the average officer in firearm proficiency. Maybe 30% of the local police in any given area could match the performance of alot of us lol. Pretty comical.
Tyranny of the Annointed. Reminds me of a Thomas Sowell Book.
I've never heard of a case where a cop shot himself but I've heard many that the "gun went off".
Insurance companies do 2 things, collect premiums and pay as few claims as possible. Attorneys on Retainer for the win!!!
These are the ones that can’t even disassemble a Glock!
a 4 year old can do this.....thats pretty sad
Very Sad. Well accidents do happens but not for us, only for thee. Very sad indeed 😔. Better get Attorneys for Retainer just in case 🇺🇸🇺🇸👍👍👍👍
Jail
I can look all them guys standing there in their eyes and tell you none would stand a chance up against a militia. Call your mamma or backup like cowards do
I had a negligent discharge in my own home , nobody was hurt , but I was charged with reckless use
I'm Cajun by blood (7th Generation descendant of Joseph Broussard, Beausoleil), but because my dad was Air Force, grew up in California. Educated in CA and graduated the POST in Northern California. Moved to Crowley, LA and hired onto the PD there in 1991. Graduated ALETA, Lafayette, that same year and earned my Louisiana POST. I literally lasted less than a year there before just walking off... I've worked some sketchy jobs, but that place... Wow!
Sounds right out of Super Troopers 😆
yea but at least they had good aim and a bulletproof cup.....
At least he didn’t shoot his eye out… 😏
You should do a story on the texas cops who shot the hostage victim that was kidnapped by her father
And lied about it.
I was a Deputy for fifteen years. The only training that we and officers receive in Ga and is most likely the same nationwide, is a firearms familiarization for a couple of hours, then qualification at the range. Then you have to re-qualify in in service once a year, in some agencies twice a year. If you want more, to go above and beyond is on you, like practicing at a range. A lot just do the minimum required by POST. They are not experts by any stretch of the imagination. I received more training every year in the Army than they do in their respective agencies.
Since I was a very young boy, it was instilled in me that it is 'ALWAYS, the unloaded gun that kills'! That being said, negligence, mishandling and complacency are the main cause(s) of incidents like this Police Chief. Likewise, incidents and situations do occur. Just a simple fact. Merely every such encounter like this WAS preventable. Highly accurate; however, just because an individual has been crested with a badge does not equate to being an 'expert'. Having presented this video, only reiterates the nuance of utilizing gun safety rules AT ALL TIMES! First and foremost, do not EVER point your weapon towards anything that you are not willing to kill, maim or destroy! Whether a civilian or a L.E.O., this incident serves as a stark lesson to be more vigilant and aware while handling any firearm, ammunition and accessories.
Oddly enough ,2 officers were injured at a training here in Sicklerville NJ 2-3 days ago
We used to have a city cop in our town, a big fat guy, and while exiting his squad car one day his gun somehow got caught on the steering wheel and shop himself in the foot lol.
Probably try and charge us
Just wanna say, you should check out the Police Chief in Prescott Valley AZ a few years ago left his weapon in a public restroom in the local library, he was let go quickly LOL
Not many Sheriff Wilson’s anymore
Okay I'm totally with you on the message, and I was getting the seriousness, and then that image of the Don't Drop On Me shirt popped up. ROFL
Most don't even shoot but one or twice a year..
Thin blue lie gang --"I'm the only one in the room professional enough to carry this gLock fawty" 💥 😲
Me-- 😅😂
Amen!
The DEA agent in a school with a loaded gun telling he's the only one qualified to handle this powerful 40 caliber Glock and then proceeds to shoot himself with it.
As a former LEO trainer, I can say, MY officers were quite good (monthly training, STRICT standards, etc.). Other agencies, NOT SO MUCH! The average hit rate nation wide is about 40%. Most officers do NOT know how to operate any firearm other than their issue sidearm. Most Academies require 40 hours of firearms training to be a licensed officer. After that, once a year qualification is all that is required. It is simply too expensive to do so. Oh, BTW. I have Marc as MY Attorney for a reason. And I have the Attorneys on Retainer for a reason as well!!!
Wow, you can’t make this up. 🤯
A LEGend in his own mind.
Somehow, even as an unskilled citizen, I've managed to carry a sidearm every day for the last 31+ years without a single accidental discharge. Whacky!
Breaux Bridge 911.
Ahh, they didn’t call it a negligent discharge either!