NEW Retroid Pocket 4: THIS IS BIG (Everything We Know So Far)
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024
- 👉Join Stubbs to learn everything we know so far about the new Retroid Pocket 4 & 4 Pro. Rocking a Mediatek Dimensity D900 on the non Pro, and a new variant, the D1100 on the Pro model. This now competes directly with the Odin Lite, Odin Base & Pro, GPD XP Plus, and AYANEO Pocket Air! Retroid is entering the mid to high end Android space, and its pretty cool to see. The D1100 goes neck and neck with the Snapdragon 865, and slightly less performant than the 870.
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RP4 Pre-orders go live Dec 21st @ 9am Beijing time (Dec 20th 8pm EST) -- along with case, grip, and DIY buttons and parts!
💸Pre-order here: retrohandhelds.link/Retroid
Expected ship dates: RP4 pro 1/15/24 & RP4 1/25/24
Check out our RP4 Livestream Q+A with Retroid: ruclips.net/user/livebPXx-XU_8lI
- The Base model is using Android 11 and the Pro model is using Android 13
- The base model DOES has video out, but over HDMI. The Pro has USB C video out (DisplayPort).
At one point I said Unitek Dimensity which was meant to be *Mediatek* Dimensity 🫣
Happy retroid just released all the info at once.
Psyched!!!! If it has analog shoulder triggers and a custom or back button, I'm in!
Meh, I'm still set on an Odin 2 as my last Android-Only Handheld.
I don't blame ya one bit, but I just love the size of my RP3+, the idea of having the same power or more than my Odin 1 with something I can actually put in my pocket, that's... I dunno... I'm not into switch games and I think this might be my next handheld, already got an Odin 1 and it's good. I can wait for the Odin 3, I'm sure it'll have more than enough power to play everything at 8k by then lol. jk.. maybe.. jk.. lol @@Pridetoons
I don't have an Odin 2 yet and now it's going to be a really tough choice between the Odin 2 and Retroid Pocket 4 Pro for my GameCube and PS2 needs. I do really like having the D-pad up top for general use retro gaming and the small pocketable form factor of the RP4, but I also appreciate the Odin 2's big 6" screen and that it's got enough power to play pretty much every GameCube and PS2 game full speed at 2x resolution with no issues. Based on the benchmark scores of the D110 in the RP4 Pro it should have relatively the same performance as the Aya Neo Pocket Air, meaning that 95% of GameCube and PS2 games should play fine at 2x resolution without any tinkering beyond swapping between OpenGL or Vulcan for the backend on a game by game basis, but some of the very top end games may struggle a bit and have to be bumped down to 1.5x for full speed gameplay. Decisions decisions.
Awwwwwwwe YEAAAAAAAAAAH!!! Odin Lite in our pocket! Or something even more powerful in our pocket! I'm so glad they kept the same form factor and that screen! Hoping it has analog shoulder triggers and a proper back button.
This thing is as fast or faster than the Odin 1 lite or pro. Crazy!
I love putting super powered items in my pants... wait....
Ditto!! 🎉
It does have all that, they confirmed it on the discord
SHAWEEEET! @@RueLangston
It has a back and home button on the front as well as the start pause buttons
I can't even imagine how good the RP4 will be regarding PS2 emulation. I've just got the RP3+ and it's already really good. Looking forward to it!
A great time to be alive, eh!? See you in over an hour? ^_^
Gotta love that positivity and appreciation!
Weird because many people say PS2 isn't good on RP3+. If you care about PS2 I would get the Pro version of the RP4.
@@patsk8872 I think he meant generally good lol.
@@patsk8872On the Odin Lite (which uses the Dimensity 900 like the regular RP4) I have no issues running PS2. I can’t upscale every game but PS2 and GameCube run great. Though I still would spend the extra $50 and get the Pro version with the better chip and twice the RAM. Either way though the Odin 2 is a better purchase in my opinion.
Finally, a non T618 device & nearly same performance of Snapdragon 870 which can handle PS2 games in native & 2-3x upscale in some games. Great color variants & non Cross D pad. We really appreciate it! ❤
Rp3+ plays a bunch of ps2 at 2x
@@JarlBarbossa the switch sticks are starting to get dated imo
@@JarlBarbossa It'll be a lot better now. What a time to be alive ! $199 , Non cross Dpad , lovely colors & easy to grab.
As fantabulous as this is, I now want to go _What’s Next_ NEXT and wait for a Retroid Flip 2 Pro with a D1100 for ~$225.
this
My money is on ambernic coming out with a rg405m update model with the same chipsets offered on the RP4/pro I like the 405m layout so maybe I'm bias
@@nathanmontoya4678 I want an Anbernic version of the RGB30: metal body, premium build, Hall sticks.
That'd be a top tier Linux device.
I will definitely get one rp4 pro if I didn't buy odin2 pro.
Powerful enough for almost all ps2 games, Genshin, and pocketable. Almost perfect for me.
I think the Odin 2 is the best you can get for android atm
@@lastonewon Price is a hard sell tho due to steam deck
@@patsk8872 yup. LCD is almost same price as the pro model
@@lastonewon most powerful indeed, but OP for me
I don't need to emulate NS or PSV, and I want to bring a handheld in my pocket when I go for a walk
It seems like rp4 pro should be the best fit one for me
@@kevinjin6144 yea I hear that. I love the Odin 2 but it's mid/ sized for a large home device it's the SD Oled, the RP4 is a good shout for a throw in the pocket device
I didn't know how much I wouldn't like the d-pad on the bottom until I got my odin 2
Boom! All I had to see was an improved rp3+ that comes in transparent red and I am sold even though I just got my Odin 2
Awww man! I'm a newbie and just got the RP3+ literally three days ago. I'm just learning how the emulation works. But this is great news!
Enjoy that 3+ for as long as you can! Still a great device
How long until taki says he created it?
Exactly, that's like saying I created the RG353P and RG-ARC because of my Email suggestions. 🤣
this addiction is real. i have an odin 2 max and will be buying this to replace my rp3+
Yeah, too little too late for me. I've been wanting a new Retro Handheld to replace my RP2+, as I was wanted to expand to PS2 and GameCube titles, and had been holding out for the inevtiable announcement of the RP4, but just couldn't pass up on the Odin 2. It just feelt like the ulimate endgame product for me.
I did the same. I love my 3+ and I think Retroid is great but I wanted a bigger screen and true power. Plus those LED lights
Keep up the good work guys.
Thanks blessed! 🎉
This should have been called Retroid Pocket 3S
Maybe the S is reserved for a half-step upgrade in the future? Or it might be reserved for 4:3 aspect devices continuing the R2S line? I could see that happening
I would get the non pro.
The pros price range puts it too close to something maybe better
Cheaper than Odin lite with same chip. ,👍
Awww...already god the 2s for all my old games and Ordin 2 for everything else. What do I need this for??
The Main thing I hated about the Odin 2.......well the only thing. is the Size. The moment It arrived the very first thing I did was try to put it in my pocket and one of the thumbsticks came off, lol. I love the odin but it's just too big, If a company wants to impress me make a gaming phone the size of the 405m with physical controls, and pocketable.
My same thoughts on my Odin 1 when I got it last year, it's great but can't really put it into my pants.. pocket. Now we got a D900 which is basically an Odin lite with analog triggers and better thumb sticks that can go in our pocket! I'm sooo effn excited!
If it fits in my pocket, it's too small.
My take on Retroid Pocket 4/Pro is that they are unnecessary for my use case to upgrade from my RP3+. Reason being the 4/4 Pro realistically only adds more PS2, Gamecube and later systems' titles which i have the Steam Deck for. I only really bought the RP3+ for the truly retro titles up to the PSP. Maybe the bump in performance on the 4 can get higher resolution scaling, but i cant justify getting a 4 when i have the 3+.
It's really fantastic though, that RP4 starts at $150, which is where RP3+ also was at on release.
The Pro version is a better buy than Pocket Air. At $300, nothing can beat the end game Odin 2
Except for the input lag. That basically nullifies all of its great qualities IMO.
@@proXprocrastinator Were you referring to competitive android games? Personally, I didn't get it for that. Maybe I'm just not sensitive to input lag
@@squareone_1 there is input lag on all games, but some people aren't sensitive enough to notice it. It sounds like this is the case for you. I'm very sensitive to input lag, so it's a deal breaker for me. You can use run-ahead on Retroarch games to somewhat fix it, but you can't do this for more advanced games. Obviously the lag would be the most harmful for competitive Android games, which I would also want to play sometimes. Sucks because the Odin 2 Pro checks nearly all the other boxes for me (except 120 Hz OLED screen).
Another great video! Thanks for keeping us informed.
What kind of games can we expect to reach with the Pro? Not sure capability, if it can’t reach much beyond PS2 then I don’t see a point to buying it over the standard 4.
Apparently… some switch and Vita emulation?
@@evshrug switch is impossible. The base model Odin 2 $330 has difficulty playing switch which is 4x better
Odin 2 can play switch games comfortablely,it's just the Yuzu and skyline aren't stable at the moment
@@hunasyo1 it’s nowhere near switch ofc. I just want to see if it has capabilities beyond PS2, because if it doesn’t, I don’t see much point in getting the pro over the base - you’re just paying for GameCube/PS2 comparability at that point
@@ramy8700 depends on the game. some light titles will likely run fine. SD865 can comfortably do some switch. you won't be playing TOTK on this, but 2D games will probably work fine.
That the Pocket Air costs close to $300 is not true: you have to add the taxes, Customs and DHL procedures, so I. I think that here in Spain the Pocket Air will easily be around €500.
I've been waiting for a PS2/GC handheld at a $200 pricepoint for a few years now, and it looks like Pocket 4 Pro will be the one for me. If Pocket Flip 2 ever comes out with better sticks, hinge, and screen on top of the upgraded chipset, that'd be my dream console.
Anyone else thinking Flip 2?!!!! 😁
That would be wild! I'd get one for sure
I'm thinking 4:3 aspect ratio
The flip is a flop
@@JarlBarbossa i love mine
No
I'm very sensitive to weight, so I'd take this over the Odin or the AYANEO. OLED on the PRO would be nice though.
Seems like the Ayaneo isn't that great of a deal, since the 1200 is an incremental improvement over the 1100, think 888 vs 888+ same core count, die size, cache, ram support, etc. GPUs are exactly the same as well. 1200 only introduces one of the A78 cores boosted to 3GHz and that's it.
Their choice of Mediatek quite questionable for me, esp for emulation. There were many cases that emulation wouldn't run well in Mediatek, esp the newer consoles such as PS2 and GC. Hopefully the issues now already ironed out. I want nothing but the best for RP4 and the pro version
I got the metal RP3+ when that first released and always kind of assumed I’d be hurting for it when the 4 dropped, but… I’m doing pretty okay honestly. OLED or some sweeping design improvement would have gutted me, but this mostly feels like an upgrade that’ll improve experiences I’d personally rather have on the Steam Deck anyway. The 3+ is already powerful enough to upscale the consoles I’m most likely to play on that form factor as much as the screen can handle. Fast charging, DisplayPort, concave analog sticks, better WiFi, and sane start/select placement are great, but I’ll live.
Shout outs to anyone who bites though, does look like nice kit if it’s the right moment for you.
The cpu and gpu are apparently twice as powerful.
ima wait for the RP4 pro+
Exactly. See you in 3 months! 😂
What about screen resolution?
Great value. I’ll stick with my steam deck
It is probably the best option
Honestly I think the D900 model will be better value for money. $50 is a big jump that probably wont add much stable performance over the cheaper model, the T618 could already play some PS2 & GC.
but if you look at the specs it says the d1100 will have usb c to hdmi at full 1080p which makes it at least something to think about if you like that stuff
@@xxNerv the regular 150$ version doesn't have hdmi? Or it's a different hdmi? (If you can explain as i am not very tech savy)
@@dadou193 they both have a physical HDMI port but it only outputs at 720p the d1100 can use the USB c port to send out a 1080p signal with a USB c to HDMI adapter
@@xxNerv gotcha. But does that even make a difference for the kinds of game we would play on this? I mean we are talking about PS2 games that are 10-15 years old, not modern games. I can see how a display port would make sense for modern day consoles like ps3/ps4/ps5 but for ps2 isn't it going to give the same result as a good old mini hdmi port?
@@dadou193 oh yeah of course for just the emulation of older consoles it would be perfectly fine but for only 50 dollars more and at the level of performance of the d1100 native android gaming and streaming movies and shows the device can turn into almost a mini pc .... It's just a nice to have feature for people who want a full "switch like" console
Imagine what would happen if Strato releases and it has great Mali support right out of the gate.
Well now I’m confused do I buy this? Odin2? Or steam deck?
It's your money. Buy what you want and fits your needs.
Do we get a plus version or an ‘s’ version next?
Well see!! 😁
Damn it I just asked for the 3 for Christmas
I would still go for odin2
I wish the non-pro came with a 4:3 screen
Would love that. An RP2S+ 😆
I was one of the people who received a RP3 in the few days before they released the RP3+. Never again.
How do you think this will actually handle Switch??
If you’re going for Switch, I’d say don’t even bother on the 4GB ram model, since Yuzu crashes on 4GB of ram playing anything other than Celeste and Sonic Mania no matter what your chipset is. For the Pro which is 8GB of ram, you have barely just enough ram to actually use Yuzu, but not enough to play any of the higher-end games. I’d say just get the Odin 2 Pro/Max since they have 12 and 16GB of ram respectively, but at that point for $459 you’d be better off getting a Steam Deck.
Yes proper d-pad placement!!! 😂 but this is tight that theyre doing this and that ice colorway is awesome. It is a bummer no oled but hey mabe on the pro plus lol
You mentioned a few AYN / Odin devices . Can you do a quick video comparing them ? I guess the Odin 2 is the best one but it's also more expensive. I am trying to determine what's the best value around the 200$ range and it's pretty confusing. Thanks
Ah we have this video on our channel if you search for Odin 2, at $200 the Odin Pro (first gen) is a steal!
@@retrohandheldsso odin pro first gen ia better than the loki and the other one lite (forget the name) ? Thanks
PS2 emulation is the ultimate litmus test for this price point.
Thanks for the video 🎊
This is the news I like to see 🎉
Thanks for watching! We're always trying to improve the formula
i want one so bad, but might wait for word on the possibility of a Flip2
"proper" placement of the buttons is what will probably decide my purchase of the RP4pro. I was happy that the KTR1 gave you the option but, it's price and somewhat disappointing performance hurt it for me. Even if I'm not playing really old or retro style 2D titles, I find it's just more comfortable if the analogs are below the Dpad and face buttons, period.
RP2S form with RP4P internals would be a must purchase. Widescreen only makes sense for PSP and some Android games but the majority of the games people will want to play are 4:3. Not sure why they do widescreen.
So that it’s less pocketable! No, wait that’s not right, ummm… Because PS2 was a widescreen console! Wait, it was 4:3 with weird anamorphic modes in rare games… idk.
Ps1, ps2, n64, gamecube, and dreamcast have built in wide screen hacks that work with the majority of games. Noob.
Psp? Nds?
I'd rather have the pixels with black bars than downscale a psp...
In about to buy a handled console but im doubting what to choose. Im between AYN Odin Pro or a RP4 Pro, what do you guys recommend me?
If it's the first Odin then wait for the RP4
-Aish
6:03 Objective isn't personal, subjective is personal. Objective means it's a fact.
I'll get the dimensity 1100
I've Odin lite
I'm going to sell my RP2+ when the 4Pro comes out. If I can sell it for $70 I can get the pro for $130. Not bad!
*I have a Odin Lite & RP2S...Definitely will be getting the RP4P*
I'm not sure about a 16:9 screen for retro games. I guess some PS2 and GameCube stuff had anamorphic wide-screen modes and this benefits Android ports of games and network streaming, but still, I think I'd prefer a 2S form factor with a 4 inch screen.
I guess as well it benefits Vita and PSP. I dunno.
I like, that its the same size, ngl. I know the battery is bigger in the ayaneo pocket air, but that is not really pocketable.
I'm definitely getting the rp6+
I’ll wait 3 months for the 4 plus
The Pro is the plus. Dual release, baby! 😉
@@animejoe4041 nah just wait for the rp4s with a snapdragon gen 1
@@zachman893 Or just wait for the RP5 Pro Plus with its low level PS3 emulation and 5 inch screen. 😉
Ice, Ice, baby.
Retroid announces this just as people are finishing Xmas purchases… baffling business decision.
Not really, the product isn't even done yet.
Not really. I imagine anyone interested in retro gaming is an adult and can buy stuff whenever they want.
I guess at this point your budget has absorbed your gift purchases for everyone else (everyone, right???), so now you can consider if it’s something that you can get for yourself?
Not really. Some people haven't even started Christmas shopping yet.
Finishing already? I’m jealous at the early planning haha! I’m unfortunately one of the last-minute shoppers that remember to buy one or two more things until the day before Xmas 😂
I think I will get the GameForce ACE instead, just because the Linux support, and is cheaper too
Can't wait.
Gonna grab the pro.
Why wouldn't they release it with their amazing bright green colour?
I really have no idea how long it is between the announcement and release of these consoles are. Could you give me like a rough estimate. Will it be a week? A couple months? I would be great if I could be help out here.
Likely a few months away from shipping, and most likely less than a month away from pre-orders. It's all guess work as of now.
I got the metal RP3+ just a few weeks ago. Since I already own a Wii/GCN and an N64, I don't need the upgrade. Plus, this version won't come in a metal shell, and that is a huge difference in quality. Retroid uses crappy plastic to keep costs down, so if you want the metal upgrade you won't be able to get it because the metal shell is also sold out and designed only for the RP3+ button placement. Believe me the metal shell makes a huge difference. Also, the screens are the same so that wasn't even improved😂
Rp3+ can play 64 effortlessly, and it handles most gamecube
I’m a bit confused… does the RP4 have DisplayPort, or no video out? That’s a feature I’m missing on my RG505.
Ayn Odin Pro is actually slower than RP4P
Yup the RP4 pro is comparable to something like a snap dragon 865.
-Aish
If the nubs don’t fit, you must acquit
Can't see any of the handhelds you are holding up
This is epic I can't wait for my 3 plus to come in then iam ording a 4
Also AYN has shitty lag, and no one on RUclips will tell you about that😮 Not to mention just because it's powerful enough to do PS2, it wont be able to since the emulator still needs years of development to get it right. Only like 2% of PS2 games play perfectly right now😅
Is it gonna be able to play all of the ps2 games?
I wish the base Retroid Pocket 4 had 6GB RAM otherwise it just pushes me to buy the RP4Pro.
WHERE IS MY WATERMELON GREEN FOR THE RP4???
The start and select button-placement were the the reason, that I did not get the 3+. I have a RG353P and love the feel of it. If this thing is as good as it sounds, I might get it =)
I was just about to make this exact comment lol. For some reason I couldn’t stop thinking of super metroid and batman nes and other games that use the select and start buttons for gameplay. Now i think i should get it
It's a total non-issue. Never bothered me in a single game
@@JarlBarbossaFor you. I never got a 3/3+ for the same reason.
@@armyofninjas9055 Exactly. You never got one. So you're just blabbering out of your rear about something that doesn't matter
It's Odin lite replacement not the end all be all but a better option imo I'm hoping ambernic comes out with it's competition soon and they drop before Q4 of 2024 I want a 405m with the 1100 😅
I wish it came in that amazing transparent green from 2S...
I will get this ;-) although i have already way too many of these
New devices monthly all companies
I hope for a flip version too.
Should compete with the Odin 2
Speakers: it's a shame they're not front firing. I would have liked to see a layout similar to the Odin 2 for select/start and home/back buttons. In addition, over the RP2S this would be less pocketable and larger (in my use case this is a issue): I would have loved a smaller device with a 3:2 screen. Even if the Pro can achieve the performance I am looking for, I'll pass and I'll rather stay with my RP2S 😊 I am not a reviewer, and there's no need for common users to have tons of these devices: I prefer having just one, and this is still my 2S.
can't decide between ice and red. I'm also at a stalemate point in my collecting. I don't know if I want to go real hardware or emulation for gamecube and PS2. I already have a PS2 and a handful of mint RPGs, have a wii and just bought Baten Kaitos 1 and 2 both sealed. It's definitely easier to play with hibernate and quick resume though!
I want 4:3 screen
Just focus on the honeymoon !!! 😂 7:30
I JUST bought my Odin 2. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Who is this "Stubbs"? What's his deal?
16:9 for retro gaming?
I've been looking for a PSP machine, and I think I have a winner in the form of RP4. I am also just now learning that you can emulate the Switch on Android, so I'm going for the RP4 Pro so I can hopefully have stuff like the original Suika game running well, and maybe the Android version of VRChat, all on one device.
Yuzu is trash on dimensity chips. Don't hold your breath for switch.
@@armyofninjas9055 Already checked videos, stuff I want to play works fine. Besides, with Retroid rolling out a device on it, I'm sure that'll give the Yuzu team an incentive to work on improving the performance.
You will need an Odin2 with 16G RAM for Switch gaming. So $100more for that. But for portability this ret 4 size is just sweet. 😮
I'm deff gonna get a normal rp4 instead of an rp3+
Overall happy that companes are taking ps2 emulation seriously.
Glad to have this option but I think retroid should have made this a 5" screen and a newer form factor. Considering they have made us wait a year....Obviously they have a large inventory of these cases and screens they didnt move nor wanted to sell and modified the casing, keeping the screen. I think that after 2 identical devices in rp3 and +. £200 dollars for me i prefer to stick some more on it and get an odin 2. Powkiddy will probably use this chip and give you more or less tHis device for around £50-£70 less only thing is the controls wont be as good as we all know what Powkiddy are like there 😂
Nah. The size is perfect and they have a niche. A bigger device overlaps with over products too much
how does this compare to odin 2?
RP4P = SD 865
i woder if they will do flip with this chip
dam i just bought anbernic arc then this comes along
Seems promising. Odin 2 is decent but no wonder they got the SD 8 Gen 2 chip so cheap cos its the lower clocked version that next to no one used.
Probably left over ones that didn't meet spec
@@pegcity4eva Lower binned ones usually are those. So that's why so cheap.
These reviewers shitting themselves that it's the latest and greatest, I just shook my head
Think im getting the pro blue one, hoping it can play switch atelier ryza, thatd be awesome
If you want to hold something into the camera... remove the image you placed there. :)
For the pro, I wish the would have gone with a snapdragon 8 gen1, added some sort of integrated grips and they would have crushed it. This to me is very meh. Then again I'm not new to the market. Might be a good starter device.
Oh come on lol, given the resolution of the device, the size of the device, that's overkill for a Retro handheld, Retroid tends to focus more on the lower end, I could only imagine the price point they'd have to make it for a SD Gen 1, let alone having the battery capacity. I think putting that processor in would kinda negate the word "pocket" from Retroid Pocket lol.
That would've for sure made the device way less affordable... I mean this is still a device that's much better performance wise, has hall sensor sticks, analog triggers for the same price as the RP3+ and even fixed the weird button placement! I'd say this is definitely worth the buy
It's $150
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LOL! Good point! LOL!!!! @@JarlBarbossa
@JarlBarbossa it's $200 for the pro that I'm referring to and after shipping its gonna be right up around $240
won't be able to emulate switch so its a no from me. yuzu developers are focused on snapdragon processors only. for
Retroid are to late this time for me, my Ayn Odin 2 Pro has arrived, and is now the new boy in town.
And loving it.
I was tempted many times by odin 2 pro max spec, but at the end of the day, taxes shipment and other shits it costs me 600 more bucks. So it's a no go for me.
Might as well just get an odin
Odin 2 is more recommended because Odin and Odin pro do not compare to Retroid pocket 4 pro.
I was very ho hum til I heard Garlic. Now u got my attention.