Retroid has created an impressive pocket friendly handheld for the price. This might be all you need for a while, but what do you think? Update: Unfortunately color correction on the Odin 2 was set to auto, I didn't notice it at the time of recording and editing. I apologize for that and will make sure to be more thorough in future videos.
Noticed no temps were in basically any of the systems shown pls include in your next video on it as showing fan profile doesn't particularly help if we can't see how using said profile ends up interfacing with console🙏🏽and affects the temps
@@ghostsauce3109 the fan basically runs on its own in smart and full blast in sports mode and you cant disable it, only performance mode has the quiet option .In the fan section of the video I talked about disconnecting the fan and how it impacted temperatures. But I'll try and add it in the future. -Aish
@@eonbree8593 I'm not sure about your financial situation or if you have a handheld already, but they do make some for half the price that will probably be able to run everything well besides PS2 and GameCube. I really enjoyed the RP2+. They're probably pretty cheap these days. It's still a solid device.
@@EricFriedman-re4gs no it doesn't. Even the ones that come with games have shit roms on a shit sd card. It's best you download your own stuff on a good SD card.
@@juniorelizondo4144 so the cards the sell w it suck...it's better to buy a gd card and put them on their... which card do think is gd and I need a sd card reader right im new to all this and am bout to buy one i just wanna know wat do when i get it i appreciate you helping me and replying to me
I've seen this handheld used with the Skull & co jumpgate pro dock and it's what has made me want it even more. Seemed like the perfect pairing and would let it set nice and neat right next to my switch. Cant wait to actually get it.
The docked experience is good, the only issues I have is dolphin and aether don't work right away with controllers. But that's ok the emulators not really on the android build.
@@ThomasGail they had something like 10k orders from the first day so it's better to just be patient and not think about it. I ordered in the first 2 min too
It's been a while since you guys posted some new content! absolutely, I love what the RP4Pro could do and we're only gonna see it become popular over the next few months! That was a solid review, Aish. Cheers to Aish and the RH team ♥️
Thanks for showing performance/quiet fan settings. All other youtubers just went for high performance/smart fan and got awful battery life. Smart fan mode already drains half the battery alone just because of the fan. Also we can hope for strato in the future for better mali gpu switch Performance
I really hope retroid adjusts the fan curves because the fan is pushing more than what's needed, the battery life still takes a hit in high performance but quiet fan really helps. Thanks for watching glad you liked it. -Aish
I glad to see a RUclipsr actually showing few switch games running on this device, instead of just saying that this device won’t run switch. Thanks for the video 1+sub
Oh it definitely runs a lot of switch games, people just need to have realistic expectations. It's not going to run something like tears of the kingdom of red dead, but a lot of indies and lighter 3d games work. It does pull a lot of power but Yuzu is getting better. -Aish
Awesome device for how much it costs. The only problem being in the uk is by the time you actually get it you've paid 75% the advertied price and its suddenly not a cheap device anymore anymore
@@retrohandhelds I have looked at them. They put a hefty mark up as well, I was looking at the odin 2 from them but it's the same price as a steam deck OLED by the times I get it and I just can't justify it
Great review! I bought a grip for the comfort issues- only thing I still have reservations about is the clickiness of the shoulder buttons. I wonder if a hardware mod could alleviate that at all?
Could be worse, I have the RG405M and love it, but the shoulder buttons and "triggers" were so clicky at first. Though now, the shoulder buttons have lost their click in less than a year and I don't even use those buttons often, or that hard when I do. But now they're a spongey, unsatisfying slog to use and are so sensitive you can blow on them and they register a press. I'd honestly prefer the click shoulder buttons on this thing, and I usually hate overly clicky buttons myself. If they're built to last, I'd be willing to accept the compromise.
I can't honestly see anything wrong with the screen. Comments complaining about it seem to come from the expectation that this device is supposed to be an Odin 2 Pro that costs less.
Still got my first retro handheld, the Retroid Pocket 2+ which I really like because of the small factor and powerful system at the time. The 4-Pro is looking really tempting as an upgrade.. I'm deciding if I should buy right now or wait for other companies response to this.. Or should I just way for the Ayaneo Pocket S which from what I can see looks smaller compared to other high priced hanhelds right now?
The problem with waiting on these devices is that there will always be something better in a short time. It's prevented me from getting one for a while now. Just jump on it because from every review I've watched, it's a solid handheld.
I played Haunting Ground on this device for the first time ever and it was an amazing game, I'm so glad I bought the pro 4 and gave myself a reason to play all the ps2 games I missed out on. They run surprisingly well, Haunting Ground only got laggy in the very last segment o f the game because the game was rendering fire
The pro is a lot better and will run almost all of the gc and ps2 cat with little to no tinkering. The rp4 you're going to have to do some tinkering if you want to play a lot of ps2 and gc. For the extra $50 you get better cpu, gpu, and double the ram. It's an obvious choice and I've already ordered the pro for myself 😊
Thank you so much for showing that these can run on just performance, seeing so much hate about battery life, I have a flip and I dont break out high performance unles I know Im going to need it, I dont know why you wouldn't expect the battery to throttle if you are basically overclocking the poor thing for 3 hrs, this is probably the info I needed to go ahead and upgrade when I get a good pay check
I really wanted to see how many games I could get working in the performance setting, and I think the majority of games can work in 2 lowest settings. Hopefully Retroid adjusts the fan curves again because that will help battery life too. -Aish
I feel like just saying you were charging with a 45w adapter is a bit misleading. Because there’s no way the device supports 45w charging. It is definitely charging closer to 15-20w
Great review Aish! Thank you. I’d be interested in hearing your thoughts of what the potential challengers to the RP4 might be in the near-term. What about the Gameforce ACE for example? Or the just-announced Anbernic RG506? And Powkiddy has something as well, I think.
As of right now nothing is going to beat the 4pro in terms of power and price. The Ace has a chip that compares to a snapdragon 845 and the rg506 is going to be similar to the base rp4. Unless anbernic comes out with a d1200 chip for the same price the 4pro is going to be at the top of the list in the mid range category. -Aish
So the rg506 is supposed to have a d1200 it'll be on par with RP4pro. if this is true but, anbernic will most likely charge more than the cost of retroid pocket 4pro . The rg556 has a unisoc t820 so that will be the comparable model to the base RP4. I believe both devices from anbernic won't do well because the company will over price it and people will favor the 4pro for this reason.
@@retrohandhelds Thanks man. I really like the design of the new Anbernic, which looks to be much more ergonomic than the RP4 Pro, not to mention the OLED screen. But at the end of the day, power is more important. I’ll stick with the 4 Pro.
For that older build of aether you mentioned, there's nethersx2 classic and I do believe you can have both versions of nether installed simultaneously.
I checked on the nether discord and it said no, it's one or the other. But I should probably try it again and see if things have changed, or maybe that person was right. But every time I tried to install the other versions it would just try to update.
Yea you cannot have both. They have the same android package name and installing one apk, when you go to install the other the android itself asks to update an existing app. NetherSX devs should change their package name to make them different apps, but I might be missing something here
I think that about a lot of handhelds on the market. I guess it must be quite difficult to shrink down the bezils and screen to body ratio. That is, without me knowing that much about the making process.
@@skycloud4802 I think the difficulty is that when it comes to devices at these lower prices you don't necessarily get to build it with exactly what you want. For example the pocket 3s and 4s both use iPhone 6 screens because they're pretty good screens that are super cheap. But that means that's the screen you have to work with.
🔥I really like this chilled style of review so thanks for that.🔥 Its not bad for either variant, but it is worth the extra bucs in getting the more powerfull device. Thanks for an awesome review.
Meh. Battery kills it for me. This is a portable handheld, if I have to plug it in all the time, it defeats the whole purpose of it IMHO. And no, I don't want to use low power settings all the time. Don't tell me it can do PS2, etc if that means it needs to turn it up to full power to play them, again, useless for true portability. If I wanted to play it at home all the time, I'll just use my computer...wait, I already do that, lol. The price is good, no doubt, and it looks the part, but skimping on the battery is a no go. Great review as always!
This thing has a fan speed profile similar to my air purifier. Settings 1 and 2 are damn near silent, the third setting sounds like a jet taking off. I'm a dumb guy, but I would imagine someone, at some point, tested the fan profiles before finalizing and shipping lol. I bet we will see a fix soon though. I'm hoping they allow us to customize the speed profiles similarly to MSI Afterburner; 0-100%.
Not yet since retroid didn't ship any units of the base model for review, but once people start getting it I'm sure you'll see them pop up. But if you want to get an idea of the performance check on some reviews of the Odin lite, it has the same chip in it. -Aish
@@bagzhansadvakassov1093 it's not meant to replace the Odin 2 or compete with it directly. The Odin 2 is a high end device that costs between $100 and $200 usd more than the 4pro. -Aish
I got a new mic and I'm trying to get used to the distance on it, if I cranked it up more in editing it started to sound weird. But I'll make sure to get a better range on the next one and get it louder, thanks for watching and for the feedback. -Aish
I REALLY own all the devices I need but I REAAAAAALY want one of these... Arrggghhhh! Anyone know of a device at similar price point that's gonna offer better performance on the horizon I should be waiting for?
I didn't cover dreamcast because there's more than enough power here to run any Dreamcast game, I didn't want to make the video longer than it had to be. -Aish
@@L337g4m3rif you manage to get the base Odin 2 it's $100 USD more so 50%, but unfortunately that one is always out of stock. The pro is $169 usd which is almost double, I'm not saying it's not worth it but for a lot of people $100 to $169 is a considerable jump.
To be fair persona 4 runs great at 3x resolution, and I did show the conclusion and in the speaker section 😆 also the way yuzu keeps improving persona 5 should work soon too, it can already hit a playable speed but it has a lot of graphical issues. -Aish
Since I got the Miyoo mini + when it came out I told myself: now I'm sett un till I can play GC and PS2 without issues like I play PS1 and down on the mini+. The price and format looks great. I just feel I can wait a bit longer for a bit better performance @@retrohandhelds :)
@@Filhelmunfortunately PS2 is going to be problematic since the emulator isn't being developed anymore, even the Odin 2 runs into games that just don't work. -Aish
oh dang, hopefully some bright mind will pick it up one day ;/ Well the Jak and Daxter games have seamed to work ok from the videos I've seen so maybe it's time for the purchase sooner rather than later then xD @@retrohandhelds
The 4pro will play almost every game the emulators are compatible with, but I know a lot of people want something that they don't have to adjust settings on. If you can snag one the Odin 2 base is a great option for those systems.
Is the standard mode loud? You think you can play most games without turning on the fan? I have tinnitus, so this is quite problematic for me (the noise). Why about the fan wind, can you feel it in your fingers? I can get a RP4 pro quite easily and fast since i live in China, but its been days trying to decide if i buy the 3+ or 4 because of the fan. Thank you
I do a fan test in the video, you can set the fan to quiet in performance mode. On quiet mode it's inaudible, you have to put the vent up against your eat to hear it. And no the fan doesn't produce any vibration even in the highest setting.
I have made a purchase of odin pro and i saw the rp4 pro today now i think im regretting should i sell my odin pro and buy rp4 pro ? Do you see any difference between them?
If you're talking about the first Odin pro then the 4pro is a considerable jump in performance. But it really comes down to what games you want to play and if the Odin plays them, and if the size of the Odin is right for you. The Odin pro has a bigger screen and better battery life, the 4 pro is more powerful and portable. -Aish
Hi, If I plug it on a Tv to play "multiplayer game" like GameCube, is there any delay with remote control? I read that in 'an Android console, to play with multiple controller is not working great...
I haven't noticed any issues with input lag. The problem with using it docked is that most emulators don't recognize the controllers as player one, so you have to go in and manually switch it every time. Unfortunately I'm not sure about the multiplayer aspect since that's something I never really test. -Aish
@@sebastiensutter4583im not sure about the multiplayer side but if you want basically plug and play GameCube the steamdeck is a great choice. With EmuDeck it's an easy set up and a lot of popular Wii games have community controller profiles that map everything for you. -Aish
@@retrohandhelds That’s interesting, In Retro game corps video he said the Standalone wouldn’t work but retro arch did. Satern is a must for me so I hope I get the same results you did. Love your vids btw!
I can understand wanting to stick with 24-30fps when you're shooting a movie, but you're literally showing off the performance of videogames. Not doing so at 60fps is psychotic.@@retrohandhelds
@@ianfisch7289every game I show has an fps counter, I always make sure to have that. And if a game/sytem isnt performing well I say it. I specifically record in 4K and upload in 1080 to try and make ir as clear as possible, and for ps2 the counter turns red when it drops bellow full speed, but I should start adding the framerate in the text as well. In general recording in 60fps is just not something I have any desire to do, that being said I hope the video was still helpful.
@@AishRios this seems like a pathology. You’re bending over backwards to add a framerate counter, instead of just SHOWING us the framerate. Ever heard of “show, dont tell?” Also why are you uploading at 1080 and not 4k?
@@ianfisch7289 it's not bending over backwards to turn on a simple setting on an emulator. Most video consumption on RUclips is 1080, keeps file sizes smaller and stills looks great. I'm not sure why you keep trying to insult me, or why my decision to use a specific frame rate is upsetting you so much.
Even though it's not oled the screen looks awesome. You can see how well it holds up against the Odin 2, and I compared that one to the switch OLED screen in my Odin 2 review. -Aish
I skipped Botw because you need a lot of power for that game, maybe eventually yuzu will get good enough but it's not there. I'm probably doing a switch showcase video soon so I'll try and throw it in there just to see how close we are. -Aish
Ive been disappointed with Anbernic recently, i had to change my RG405m for the third time....three times....the first two experienced the same, faulty trigger buttons (LR) the first one the L button lost its clickyness and would only register half the time.....sent that in and got a replacement, two weeks later same issue with the trigger buttons the L button still clicks, but no longer registers any input so i sent it again.....i get my third one and this one lasted me a good amount, sorta but after three months the screen started to pop out and to add insult to injury.....the damn trigger button started to act up.... again.... I am hoping for the love of god, that retroid has better quality control please.....plus I wanted an upgrade so please for thebpove of god please turn out to be good.....
I'm sorry to hear you had all those issues in the past, Retroid has been great at handling things like this so I'm sure if anything comes up they'll take care of it. -Aish
Question 1 : Can some tried MLBB on this device ? Can we play that game ? MOBILE LEGENDS BANG BANG MLBB , COD ? 2. Which handhled has sim support? I mean are their handhelds where we can use a sim card as well? lemme know guys Thanks in advance Really wamt to know if i can play those games aswell
@@retrohandhelds yea i kinda realised it as i was watching the video that i asked about cod before watching the entire video . However thank you for your valuable reply I really wanted a handheld with sim card support and sure i will look into odin lite ( does odin 2 has it?) If you ever find something good do lemme know / Im sorry but its my firat handheld and i really want to be absolutely sure before buying one
@@johnboona4048that depends on what you want to play really and what your budget is. There’s no question that the O2 isn’t a larger, more powerful device, but that comes at a cost that not everyone is willing or able to afford.
I know but this one can actually handle games that take advantage of the wider screen so it's not too bad. Plus it's great for streaming and android games. -Aish
Just wanna let you know, the time between the PS2 and today is longer than the time from the PS2 to the NES. That generation of systems are by definition retro now so a 16:9 screen is necessary considering a 16:9 screen can display 4:3 with black side bars, but not the other way around for retro gaming.
Unfortunately it's not always up to the company, the chip has to have Linux support in order for them to have that option. They could have used a different chip but there's not a lot of good options for powerful chips with Linux support.
They're not in the same price range, the odin2 2 is a high end android handheld and the 4 pro is a mid range device. I even say in the review that the 4pro can't compete with the Odin 2. What I mean by new standard is that from now on any handheld that releases around the $150 to $200 price range is going to be compared to this. -Aish
@@retrohandhelds much of the emulation problems for certain games from PS2 and 3ds titles still don't play smooth enough . Such as world at war, final fantasy Dridge of Cerberus or Zelda Majora's mask. Just to name a few.
@@JacobSaip-ev3em Unfortunately that comes down to the emulators, the power boost is definitely there it's just that those systems need more development. For PS2 unfortunately we're going to be waiting a long time, but 3ds continues to improve. If you want the best experience possible then moving up to the Odin 2 is the best choice, we're a ways away from a big jump in performance at this price. -Aish
@@AishRios I have one, the Maxx version. Best handled experience ever and worth the 400 price range. However don't get me wrong about the rp4 pro, what I'm trying to say was that it isn't really a leap forward like the 3+ turned out, nevertheless retroid pocket 4 is still good just for an upgrade swap than to expect a lot.
I find the D1100 to be very inefficient compared to the D900. Kind of like comparing the Qualcomm 870 to the 888. I'd choose the non plus, since not worth the battery life and heat for the higher running games I'd not play on a 4.7" display anyway. I hope the Flip 2 uses the D900.
If you look at the scores they're equal in battery life, but the d1100 is a faster chip and you can run more demanding games at a lower power draw than the d900. The reason the battery life looks so bad on the pro is because it can run games that the d900 can't, so you end up pushing it more. High performance mode pulls a lot of power and the fan goes crazy, but that hopefully gets adjusted, a lot of games run great in standard and performance mode. In the lowest power setting (standard) you can run 3ds at 2x resolution with no fan, and if you stick to things from Dreamcast on down the battery life is good. -Aish
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Retroid has created an impressive pocket friendly handheld for the price. This might be all you need for a while, but what do you think?
Update:
Unfortunately color correction on the Odin 2 was set to auto, I didn't notice it at the time of recording and editing. I apologize for that and will make sure to be more thorough in future videos.
Noticed no temps were in basically any of the systems shown pls include in your next video on it as showing fan profile doesn't particularly help if we can't see how using said profile ends up interfacing with console🙏🏽and affects the temps
this looks super promising. i just wish i had that kind of money
@@ghostsauce3109 the fan basically runs on its own in smart and full blast in sports mode and you cant disable it, only performance mode has the quiet option .In the fan section of the video I talked about disconnecting the fan and how it impacted temperatures.
But I'll try and add it in the future.
-Aish
@@eonbree8593 I'm not sure about your financial situation or if you have a handheld already, but they do make some for half the price that will probably be able to run everything well besides PS2 and GameCube.
I really enjoyed the RP2+. They're probably pretty cheap these days. It's still a solid device.
Anything by Retroid is a no go, the build quality is just so cheap and the buttons/analogs are the worst in the industry
I ordered mine yesterday...cant wait for it to arrive!
Me too, these videos are like porn to me right now! My nips are hard af! 😁
I'm deciding on wat to get does the rp4 pro come with games
@@EricFriedman-re4gs no it doesn't. Even the ones that come with games have shit roms on a shit sd card. It's best you download your own stuff on a good SD card.
@@juniorelizondo4144 so the cards the sell w it suck...it's better to buy a gd card and put them on their... which card do think is gd and I need a sd card reader right im new to all this and am bout to buy one i just wanna know wat do when i get it i appreciate you helping me and replying to me
@@juniorelizondo4144 or just use the internal storage. 128 gb is more than enough for some old roms
I've seen this handheld used with the Skull & co jumpgate pro dock and it's what has made me want it even more. Seemed like the perfect pairing and would let it set nice and neat right next to my switch. Cant wait to actually get it.
The docked experience is good, the only issues I have is dolphin and aether don't work right away with controllers. But that's ok the emulators not really on the android build.
Perfect timing thanks Aish. I just got my shipping notification 😀
Awesome! I'm sure you're going to have a great time with it.
-Aish
Still waiting on mine. I ordered right at launch time. Bummed it hasn't shipped yet
@@ThomasGail they had something like 10k orders from the first day so it's better to just be patient and not think about it. I ordered in the first 2 min too
I hate that I haven’t got mine shipped yet but at least it’s giving me time to get my toms 😅
It's been a while since you guys posted some new content! absolutely, I love what the RP4Pro could do and we're only gonna see it become popular over the next few months!
That was a solid review, Aish. Cheers to Aish and the RH team ♥️
Thank you glad you liked it! Oh and I did a review on the 35xxH review a few days ago 😁
-Aish
@@retrohandhelds Really? haha I think I missed it. Will check it out after work. Cheers Aish!
I love my RP3+ I just played G Gadius for PS1 and love every minute of it
Thanks for showing performance/quiet fan settings. All other youtubers just went for high performance/smart fan and got awful battery life. Smart fan mode already drains half the battery alone just because of the fan. Also we can hope for strato in the future for better mali gpu switch Performance
I really hope retroid adjusts the fan curves because the fan is pushing more than what's needed, the battery life still takes a hit in high performance but quiet fan really helps.
Thanks for watching glad you liked it.
-Aish
I have yet to be notified about shipping. Ordered it the first couple mins available. Got to say it's looking so good
Looks like orders are going out so you should see something soon.
-Aish
I glad to see a RUclipsr actually showing few switch games running on this device, instead of just saying that this device won’t run switch. Thanks for the video 1+sub
Oh it definitely runs a lot of switch games, people just need to have realistic expectations. It's not going to run something like tears of the kingdom of red dead, but a lot of indies and lighter 3d games work. It does pull a lot of power but Yuzu is getting better.
-Aish
Awesome device for how much it costs. The only problem being in the uk is by the time you actually get it you've paid 75% the advertied price and its suddenly not a cheap device anymore anymore
I would suggest looking at a retailer like droidX, maybe it would be less expensive with them.
-Aish
@@retrohandhelds I have looked at them. They put a hefty mark up as well, I was looking at the odin 2 from them but it's the same price as a steam deck OLED by the times I get it and I just can't justify it
That's a discount
@@rorynolan2322yeah that's right, at that price a handheld PC makes more sense.
Great review! I bought a grip for the comfort issues- only thing I still have reservations about is the clickiness of the shoulder buttons. I wonder if a hardware mod could alleviate that at all?
I haven't really looked into it yet, I usually hate clicky buttons and these aren't too bad.
-Aish
Could be worse, I have the RG405M and love it, but the shoulder buttons and "triggers" were so clicky at first.
Though now, the shoulder buttons have lost their click in less than a year and I don't even use those buttons often, or that hard when I do. But now they're a spongey, unsatisfying slog to use and are so sensitive you can blow on them and they register a press.
I'd honestly prefer the click shoulder buttons on this thing, and I usually hate overly clicky buttons myself. If they're built to last, I'd be willing to accept the compromise.
I can't honestly see anything wrong with the screen. Comments complaining about it seem to come from the expectation that this device is supposed to be an Odin 2 Pro that costs less.
Everyone was just worried about the green hue, but I think they did an awesome job fixing it.
-Aish
Still got my first retro handheld, the Retroid Pocket 2+ which I really like because of the small factor and powerful system at the time.
The 4-Pro is looking really tempting as an upgrade.. I'm deciding if I should buy right now or wait for other companies response to this..
Or should I just way for the Ayaneo Pocket S which from what I can see looks smaller compared to other high priced hanhelds right now?
I'm not sure if we'll see something that's much better at this price range, but if you're worried about it wait a few weeks. 😁
-Aish
The problem with waiting on these devices is that there will always be something better in a short time. It's prevented me from getting one for a while now. Just jump on it because from every review I've watched, it's a solid handheld.
I can’t wait for mine to arrive. It does what I want and if it doesn’t, I have a SD to handle my needs. Thanks for the review!
Sounds like a perfect pair.
Thanks for watching!
-Aish
I played Haunting Ground on this device for the first time ever and it was an amazing game, I'm so glad I bought the pro 4 and gave myself a reason to play all the ps2 games I missed out on. They run surprisingly well, Haunting Ground only got laggy in the very last segment o f the game because the game was rendering fire
Been waiting for a review for the non-pro for weeks now. Hoping either this channel (or another one) can review one soon!
Unfortunately Retroid didn't send that one out, but when we get one we will cover it.
-Aish
The pro is a lot better and will run almost all of the gc and ps2 cat with little to no tinkering. The rp4 you're going to have to do some tinkering if you want to play a lot of ps2 and gc. For the extra $50 you get better cpu, gpu, and double the ram. It's an obvious choice and I've already ordered the pro for myself 😊
Thank you so much for showing that these can run on just performance, seeing so much hate about battery life, I have a flip and I dont break out high performance unles I know Im going to need it, I dont know why you wouldn't expect the battery to throttle if you are basically overclocking the poor thing for 3 hrs, this is probably the info I needed to go ahead and upgrade when I get a good pay check
I really wanted to see how many games I could get working in the performance setting, and I think the majority of games can work in 2 lowest settings. Hopefully Retroid adjusts the fan curves again because that will help battery life too.
-Aish
Great review Aish
Thank you 😁
-Aish
Ayn owns the Odin and the retroid
Solid video, nice one Aish!
Glad you liked it!
-Aish
Probably gonna order this. I never got used to the unconventional location of Start and Select buttons on 3+.
It was a weird set up and I'm glad Retroid changed it.
-Aish
This device/gaming medium looks REAL promising. Hoping to nab' one myself.😊 BTW, that clicking on the shoulder buttons is ASMR for me lol
I feel like just saying you were charging with a 45w adapter is a bit misleading. Because there’s no way the device supports 45w charging. It is definitely charging closer to 15-20w
I understand what you're saying but I never said it could take 45w, just that I was using a 45w charger.
-Aish
Great review Aish! Thank you. I’d be interested in hearing your thoughts of what the potential challengers to the RP4 might be in the near-term. What about the Gameforce ACE for example? Or the just-announced Anbernic RG506? And Powkiddy has something as well, I think.
As of right now nothing is going to beat the 4pro in terms of power and price. The Ace has a chip that compares to a snapdragon 845 and the rg506 is going to be similar to the base rp4.
Unless anbernic comes out with a d1200 chip for the same price the 4pro is going to be at the top of the list in the mid range category.
-Aish
So the rg506 is supposed to have a d1200 it'll be on par with RP4pro. if this is true but, anbernic will most likely charge more than the cost of retroid pocket 4pro . The rg556 has a unisoc t820 so that will be the comparable model to the base RP4. I believe both devices from anbernic won't do well because the company will over price it and people will favor the 4pro for this reason.
@@retrohandhelds Thanks man. I really like the design of the new Anbernic, which looks to be much more ergonomic than the RP4 Pro, not to mention the OLED screen. But at the end of the day, power is more important. I’ll stick with the 4 Pro.
@@nathanmontoya4678I really hope they actually make something with the d1200 to push competition.
-Aish
Hope they bring out a flip version of this.
Good luck getting one. They are back ordered for months. Buy one now and get it in August.
Hopefully they get caught up with all the preorders soon.
I actually ordered mine 2 weeks ago and they said via email support ticket it’s shipping in less than 7bd
For that older build of aether you mentioned, there's nethersx2 classic and I do believe you can have both versions of nether installed simultaneously.
I checked on the nether discord and it said no, it's one or the other. But I should probably try it again and see if things have changed, or maybe that person was right. But every time I tried to install the other versions it would just try to update.
Yea you cannot have both. They have the same android package name and installing one apk, when you go to install the other the android itself asks to update an existing app. NetherSX devs should change their package name to make them different apps, but I might be missing something here
@@azenyr muh bad.
@@Patrick-bn5rpno worries, but I do hope that gets worked out.
less bezel, more screen please
this!
Or less bezel, smaller device, also works. Either way that bezel is a waste of space
Match OLED switch screen size...and it's an instant purchase
I think that about a lot of handhelds on the market. I guess it must be quite difficult to shrink down the bezils and screen to body ratio. That is, without me knowing that much about the making process.
@@skycloud4802 I think the difficulty is that when it comes to devices at these lower prices you don't necessarily get to build it with exactly what you want. For example the pocket 3s and 4s both use iPhone 6 screens because they're pretty good screens that are super cheap. But that means that's the screen you have to work with.
Nice cam work sitting pretty 💯
Thank you!
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The purple ghosting when you scroll might be a hangover symptom of the software patch on the green panel.
I thought that initially but if it was that it would be happening in games too. It only happens when scrolling menus outside of games.
@@retrohandhelds Oh, I see. Maybe Retroid can shed some light on it.
I asked but haven't heard back yet.@@dawsoncjames
Holding out for Anbernic's response
Me too. But I don't get high hopes for it. The RP3+ was way ahead of RG505 for me.
It looks like the 556 is on the way but it's more on par with the base model.
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🔥I really like this chilled style of review so thanks for that.🔥 Its not bad for either variant, but it is worth the extra bucs in getting the more powerfull device. Thanks for an awesome review.
Glad you liked it. chill is my favorite way too, I can't do the high energy stuff.
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@@retrohandhelds 🤣I hear that
Meh. Battery kills it for me. This is a portable handheld, if I have to plug it in all the time, it defeats the whole purpose of it IMHO. And no, I don't want to use low power settings all the time. Don't tell me it can do PS2, etc if that means it needs to turn it up to full power to play them, again, useless for true portability. If I wanted to play it at home all the time, I'll just use my computer...wait, I already do that, lol. The price is good, no doubt, and it looks the part, but skimping on the battery is a no go. Great review as always!
I needed an android based system for my tv besides my phone... Might as well be this handheld
For the most part everything works, my only suggestion would be trying a dual shock 4 controller since it has the track pad.
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@@retrohandhelds how about apps like Discord and Streaming apps such as Disney+ ?
Would you recommend this system over the Anbernic RG556?
We have a whole comparison video! ruclips.net/video/FFjnyYffv5o/видео.html
This thing has a fan speed profile similar to my air purifier. Settings 1 and 2 are damn near silent, the third setting sounds like a jet taking off. I'm a dumb guy, but I would imagine someone, at some point, tested the fan profiles before finalizing and shipping lol. I bet we will see a fix soon though. I'm hoping they allow us to customize the speed profiles similarly to MSI Afterburner; 0-100%.
I'm sure we'll see an update soon because I agree, the jump from quiet to smart and sport is crazy.
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Does the regular model review exist on this planet? Please let me know.
Not yet since retroid didn't ship any units of the base model for review, but once people start getting it I'm sure you'll see them pop up. But if you want to get an idea of the performance check on some reviews of the Odin lite, it has the same chip in it.
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@@retrohandhelds thank you friendo. Imo odin 2 is the answer. I dont see how rp4 pro will replace odin. I just cant. Btw i dont own any of these.
@@bagzhansadvakassov1093 it's not meant to replace the Odin 2 or compete with it directly. The Odin 2 is a high end device that costs between $100 and $200 usd more than the 4pro.
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i think you need to increase voiceover audio volume for next time. I can hear it ok, but only on max volume
I got a new mic and I'm trying to get used to the distance on it, if I cranked it up more in editing it started to sound weird. But I'll make sure to get a better range on the next one and get it louder, thanks for watching and for the feedback.
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I REALLY own all the devices I need but I REAAAAAALY want one of these... Arrggghhhh! Anyone know of a device at similar price point that's gonna offer better performance on the horizon I should be waiting for?
Nope nothing so far, for the immediate future the rp4pro is the most powerful option at that price.
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The console looks too good ! For the base version Does the console come with the emulators pre-installed with the games?
Both the base and pro have a set up wizard with pre-configured emulators, but neither ships with games.
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thanks !
Ordered my early Jan! Still waiting 😢
Looks like orders are moving so hopefully soon
So far so good! Though I think the chapter for size comparison is off.
Watching. ^_^
Fixed, thank you.
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What about the odd 750p resolution ? How does it translate to scaling ?
No real issues I can see from regular use, but if you use integer scaling you'll have a noticeably smaller display because of it.
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Might wine up getting this since the Odin 2 is out of my price range. How come do Dreamcast titles?
I didn't cover dreamcast because there's more than enough power here to run any Dreamcast game, I didn't want to make the video longer than it had to be.
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The Odin 2 is not that much more but is more powerful and has a higher resolution.
@@L337g4m3rif you manage to get the base Odin 2 it's $100 USD more so 50%, but unfortunately that one is always out of stock. The pro is $169 usd which is almost double, I'm not saying it's not worth it but for a lot of people $100 to $169 is a considerable jump.
I really hope somebody does a video for my specific needs so I will be using the device itself to get the Roms
What specifically did you need ?
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Aye Aish… you’re the ish!
They used to call me that in highschool 😂
U got me here, I was expecting persona 4 golden emulation or game pass cloud gaming but instead u do it for the name Handheld - pro 4-P4 😅
To be fair persona 4 runs great at 3x resolution, and I did show the conclusion and in the speaker section 😆 also the way yuzu keeps improving persona 5 should work soon too, it can already hit a playable speed but it has a lot of graphical issues.
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This is so close to what I want to buy. Just need to wait a bit longer.
What device are you waiting for ?
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Since I got the Miyoo mini + when it came out I told myself: now I'm sett un till I can play GC and PS2 without issues like I play PS1 and down on the mini+.
The price and format looks great. I just feel I can wait a bit longer for a bit better performance @@retrohandhelds :)
@@Filhelmunfortunately PS2 is going to be problematic since the emulator isn't being developed anymore, even the Odin 2 runs into games that just don't work.
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oh dang, hopefully some bright mind will pick it up one day ;/
Well the Jak and Daxter games have seamed to work ok from the videos I've seen so maybe it's time for the purchase sooner rather than later then xD @@retrohandhelds
Thanks, I think I'll wait for Retroid Pocket 5 for a better PS2/GC experience
The 4pro will play almost every game the emulators are compatible with, but I know a lot of people want something that they don't have to adjust settings on.
If you can snag one the Odin 2 base is a great option for those systems.
Is the standard mode loud? You think you can play most games without turning on the fan? I have tinnitus, so this is quite problematic for me (the noise). Why about the fan wind, can you feel it in your fingers? I can get a RP4 pro quite easily and fast since i live in China, but its been days trying to decide if i buy the 3+ or 4 because of the fan. Thank you
I do a fan test in the video, you can set the fan to quiet in performance mode. On quiet mode it's inaudible, you have to put the vent up against your eat to hear it. And no the fan doesn't produce any vibration even in the highest setting.
@@retrohandheldsthank you 🙏
Will It Play On The TV If It Does What's The Correct HDMI Cable For This Handheld Can You Send Me A Link From Amazon So I Can I Buy It
Does Have A Fan Built In The Handheld So It Won't Overheat
3:10 Maybe one day we'll see Nintendo release a Micro Switch around this size.
I would love a mini Nintendo retro console.
What was the ambient temperature when you did the no-fan tests?
Room temperature what's in the mid 60s Farenheit.
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@@retrohandhelds much appreciated thank you, trying to see if I wanna risk it in Australian summer lmao
@@bonkCsMoh yeah that's definitely something to keep in mind.
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I have made a purchase of odin pro and i saw the rp4 pro today now i think im regretting should i sell my odin pro and buy rp4 pro ? Do you see any difference between them?
If you're talking about the first Odin pro then the 4pro is a considerable jump in performance. But it really comes down to what games you want to play and if the Odin plays them, and if the size of the Odin is right for you.
The Odin pro has a bigger screen and better battery life, the 4 pro is more powerful and portable.
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man, how u gonna tease Persona 4 on the thumbnail but not feature it in the ps2 example section?
The whole intro is running during the conclusion and you can hear it during the speaker test, the game runs perfectly fine upscaled 😁
Hi,
If I plug it on a Tv to play "multiplayer game" like GameCube, is there any delay with remote control? I read that in 'an Android console, to play with multiple controller is not working great...
I haven't noticed any issues with input lag. The problem with using it docked is that most emulators don't recognize the controllers as player one, so you have to go in and manually switch it every time. Unfortunately I'm not sure about the multiplayer aspect since that's something I never really test.
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Ok thanks.
There is any console that you think great to play GameCube game?
( Or go go direct to a Steam deck or Ally?)
@@sebastiensutter4583im not sure about the multiplayer side but if you want basically plug and play GameCube the steamdeck is a great choice. With EmuDeck it's an easy set up and a lot of popular Wii games have community controller profiles that map everything for you.
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Thanks to your reply!
What precision screw driver is that?
Is this more ergonomic than a Nintendo switch or a switch lite?
Not really since the shape is the same.
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Did you use yabasanshiro pro 2 standalone or through retroarch?
Standalone because RetroArch wouldn't open my games.
@@retrohandhelds That’s interesting, In Retro game corps video he said the Standalone wouldn’t work but retro arch did. Satern is a must for me so I hope I get the same results you did. Love your vids btw!
@@turnbasedtoddy7664 that's weird, it's likely something I'm doing wrong on RetroArch, but yabasanshiro pro 2 worked great.
Please upload these videos at 60fps. Thanks
I don't like 60fps videos sorry but that wont change, but I believe both Stubbs and Zu upload videos in 60 fps on this same channel.
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I can understand wanting to stick with 24-30fps when you're shooting a movie, but you're literally showing off the performance of videogames. Not doing so at 60fps is psychotic.@@retrohandhelds
@@ianfisch7289every game I show has an fps counter, I always make sure to have that. And if a game/sytem isnt performing well I say it.
I specifically record in 4K and upload in 1080 to try and make ir as clear as possible, and for ps2 the counter turns red when it drops bellow full speed, but I should start adding the framerate in the text as well.
In general recording in 60fps is just not something I have any desire to do, that being said I hope the video was still helpful.
@@AishRios this seems like a pathology.
You’re bending over backwards to add a framerate counter, instead of just SHOWING us the framerate. Ever heard of “show, dont tell?”
Also why are you uploading at 1080 and not 4k?
@@ianfisch7289 it's not bending over backwards to turn on a simple setting on an emulator. Most video consumption on RUclips is 1080, keeps file sizes smaller and stills looks great.
I'm not sure why you keep trying to insult me, or why my decision to use a specific frame rate is upsetting you so much.
would you say that this is more powerful than the rg405m?
Oh yeah it's a considerable jump from the 405m.
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Can you do a review on the devil may cry mobile game on RP4pro i have a feeling itll work great i just want to see lol
I can try it out, I'm thinking about doing some dedicated game videos with it.
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A bit disappointed by the screen, but everything else looks amazing. If they put OLED screen in the next one I might actually get one.
Even though it's not oled the screen looks awesome. You can see how well it holds up against the Odin 2, and I compared that one to the switch OLED screen in my Odin 2 review.
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OLED screen would make it cost $100 more
Nice video but really wished you tried the Zelda botw and redout but nice video
I skipped Botw because you need a lot of power for that game, maybe eventually yuzu will get good enough but it's not there.
I'm probably doing a switch showcase video soon so I'll try and throw it in there just to see how close we are.
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@@retrohandhelds thanks would look forward to it pls don't forget the redout game keep up the good work 👍👍
When will the non-pro get a review?
As soon as retroid starts shipping them.
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Ive been disappointed with Anbernic recently, i had to change my RG405m for the third time....three times....the first two experienced the same, faulty trigger buttons (LR) the first one the L button lost its clickyness and would only register half the time.....sent that in and got a replacement, two weeks later same issue with the trigger buttons the L button still clicks, but no longer registers any input so i sent it again.....i get my third one and this one lasted me a good amount, sorta but after three months the screen started to pop out and to add insult to injury.....the damn trigger button started to act up.... again....
I am hoping for the love of god, that retroid has better quality control please.....plus I wanted an upgrade so please for thebpove of god please turn out to be good.....
I'm sorry to hear you had all those issues in the past, Retroid has been great at handling things like this so I'm sure if anything comes up they'll take care of it.
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any guess of this will come to flip?
I'd be very surprised if we didn't see a flip version later on in the year, people seem to really want that.
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Question 1 : Can some tried MLBB on this device ? Can we play that game ? MOBILE LEGENDS BANG BANG MLBB , COD ?
2. Which handhled has sim support? I mean are their handhelds where we can use a sim card as well?
lemme know guys
Thanks in advance
Really wamt to know if i can play those games aswell
I played a lot of call of duty mobile, it's one of the games I show in the video.
For sim support the only one I can think of is the Odin lite.
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@@retrohandhelds yea i kinda realised it as i was watching the video that i asked about cod before watching the entire video . However thank you for your valuable reply
I really wanted a handheld with sim card support and sure i will look into odin lite ( does odin 2 has it?)
If you ever find something good do lemme know /
Im sorry but its my firat handheld and i really want to be absolutely sure before buying one
Just buy an Odin 2 it has a Snapdragon 8 Gen 2
And nearly twice the price.
@@scottgilbert3286 yeah but it's more future proof
Different form factor as well
@@johnboona4048that depends on what you want to play really and what your budget is. There’s no question that the O2 isn’t a larger, more powerful device, but that comes at a cost that not everyone is willing or able to afford.
And try putting that in your pants pocket.
Different strokes for different folks, just glad we have a powerful pocketable handheld.
Hope they will make a version of this with a 4:3 screen, so it would actually make sense.
I think retroid might be done with the 4:3 line.
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whats the max size micro sd card can you put in the 4 Pro model?
I believe it's 1tb.
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If you’re not wondering why red onions are really purple, are you sure you aren’t color blind?
I wasn't ready for this comment 😂
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If you own T618 debive I think you can skip this and wait for something better.
I owen a few T618s and I would say the jump in performance is worth it. But if you own one and are enjoying it there's no reason to upgrade yet.
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Does it come with all those games???
No you have to add those yourself.
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still waiting on my shipping notification :(
It looks like orders are starting to go out so it should be soon.
I will be buy if the screen size is 5.5 inch.
4.7 so maybe next time.
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I don't need, this I have the RP3+, I don't need this, I have the RP3+, I don't need this, I have the RP3+ (I need this lol)
🤫 just give in...
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Can the analog sticks click down for L3 and R3?
Yes
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What about the battery life?
Its in the tech specs section, depending on how hard you push it and the performance setting it can go from around 3 hours all the way to 8.
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Does it compare with the rg405M ?
It out performs it by a good amount.
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Why is the "B" button so faded?
It's because of the yellow color. it's double injection molded so it's never going to fade, but the color contracts makes it look like that.
@@retrohandhelds thanks. Good review
im going to get this and not upgrade till it can run ps3 good
Ordered my retro pocket 4 plus last month about to just cancel
That's when preorders went up, orders started shipping on the 15th. Have you checked if it already shipped ? It could be a customs issue.
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@@retrohandhelds it just says status unfulfilled
What's that game at the start? 0:00
Super Castlevania 4 for the SNES
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@@retrohandhelds thank you. Great video 👍
Does this handle Dark Cloud for PS2?
I haven't tested dark cloud 2 but dark cloud runs fine.
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What is the list of ps2 games it won’t play?
It's hard to say since thats going to need a lot of time to test.
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16:9 for retro gaming 😑
I know but this one can actually handle games that take advantage of the wider screen so it's not too bad. Plus it's great for streaming and android games.
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Just wanna let you know, the time between the PS2 and today is longer than the time from the PS2 to the NES. That generation of systems are by definition retro now so a 16:9 screen is necessary considering a 16:9 screen can display 4:3 with black side bars, but not the other way around for retro gaming.
Wishes they made a Linux version
Unfortunately it's not always up to the company, the chip has to have Linux support in order for them to have that option. They could have used a different chip but there's not a lot of good options for powerful chips with Linux support.
i'm sceptical about android for dedicated handhelds like this, if they ran linux i'd consider buying one
Why? I'm interested in knowing your opinion.
Linux just does not have the emulators for higher end systems
@@andrewpappas3946 it has dolphin, is there no ps2?
I was too. Then I bought a RP2S, put Daijisho as launcher and frontend, and totally forgot having an Android device.
ARM Linux is really not that great, either. Once you start wnting PS2 emulation...
I was thinking of getting an odin 2 but considering how expensive it is, I'll be getting this instead.
Not a bad alternative
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Does it play ps remote and xbox game pass?
Yes it does.
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battery sounds like a bit of a deal breaker to me
It can be if you really crank things up, but if you adjust the settings and find the right profile you can get a decent amount of play time.
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the new standard? I believe that spot is taken by the Odin 2
They're not in the same price range, the odin2 2 is a high end android handheld and the 4 pro is a mid range device. I even say in the review that the 4pro can't compete with the Odin 2. What I mean by new standard is that from now on any handheld that releases around the $150 to $200 price range is going to be compared to this.
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You didnt try Pokemon :(
Pokemon ultra sun is in there and that mystery switch game 😂
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The 16bit and watermelon color torn between the two 😞
That's a though choice.
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yeah tough one @@retrohandhelds
And still no OLED... the Vita had an OLED screen THIRTEEN YEARS ago 🤦🤦
Oled screens at this size are harder to source, but I think this screen holds up really well.
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To me I think it kinda underperformed and didn't meet much expectations like the 3+ did.
Really, how so?
@@retrohandhelds much of the emulation problems for certain games from PS2 and 3ds titles still don't play smooth enough . Such as world at war, final fantasy Dridge of Cerberus or Zelda Majora's mask. Just to name a few.
@@JacobSaip-ev3em Unfortunately that comes down to the emulators, the power boost is definitely there it's just that those systems need more development.
For PS2 unfortunately we're going to be waiting a long time, but 3ds continues to improve. If you want the best experience possible then moving up to the Odin 2 is the best choice, we're a ways away from a big jump in performance at this price.
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@@AishRios I have one, the Maxx version. Best handled experience ever and worth the 400 price range. However don't get me wrong about the rp4 pro, what I'm trying to say was that it isn't really a leap forward like the 3+ turned out, nevertheless retroid pocket 4 is still good just for an upgrade swap than to expect a lot.
I find the D1100 to be very inefficient compared to the D900. Kind of like comparing the Qualcomm 870 to the 888. I'd choose the non plus, since not worth the battery life and heat for the higher running games I'd not play on a 4.7" display anyway. I hope the Flip 2 uses the D900.
If you look at the scores they're equal in battery life, but the d1100 is a faster chip and you can run more demanding games at a lower power draw than the d900. The reason the battery life looks so bad on the pro is because it can run games that the d900 can't, so you end up pushing it more. High performance mode pulls a lot of power and the fan goes crazy, but that hopefully gets adjusted, a lot of games run great in standard and performance mode.
In the lowest power setting (standard) you can run 3ds at 2x resolution with no fan, and if you stick to things from Dreamcast on down the battery life is good.
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Button swap wen 🎉
Very soon, I might just do it live in the next few days.
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@@retrohandhelds is any cool buttons released yet
@@ghostsauce3109not yet since it just started shipping, but I'm probably going to swap my 2s buttons with these.
@@ghostsauce3109not yet but once it ships I'm sure we'll see a lot of options.
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It's small as heck.
It has to fit in your pocket 😂