Uhhh but the ps3, wii and 360 are retro, remember the ps4/xbox one launched 10 years ago, gen 7th launched at least 15 years ago. Doesn’t matter if the games are somewhat the same since then
I mean that's just not correct tbh. Modern games don't look any better if not worse. I won't name specific ones as people will always get upset. But generally modern games in max settings 4k look pretty bad compared to older ones.
Aight, to be fair, early 360 games had a bad habit of chasing realism (despite having a poor grasp of the hardware still) and putting brown 'n' bloom over eveything. The result was pretty potato-y
God, I want to buy that game but I know for a fact I have multiple games sitting in my backlog that I also bought on this impulse and haven't finished yet. I'll have to wait till it's on sale lol.
@@SumRndmPenguin i usually pirate games nowadays because they are bad, i did the same but i was like "ok this is awesome they deserve my money" and just bought it full price I dont remember the last time I enjoyed a game this much, its great, i recommend it
@@denikecfor real, I usually quit games after an hour of playing it and not looking back. But BG3 made me unable to stop playing for almost 20 hours now.
@@SumRndmPenguinMaybe it’s a good idea to wait until they release definitive edition then. The game is awesome but unfortunately they cut quite a lot of content from act 3 right before release which screwed up some questlines. It was similar with their previous game and they normally add this content back a year or so after release.
Shadow of War, the sequel to Shadow of Mordor is also surprisingly scalable and a big improvement to the original game. I played it at 30 fps with a measly R7 250 2GB GPU.
you know that games below 2017 is playable on Intel HD Graphic targeting 30fps 1080p... and those old games looks better on LOW rather than 2022's LOW. Low setting (except competitive games) in nowadays gaming is just pure nausea. It forces us to buy a 'budget' GPU, while keep bullshitting us via upscalling and next gen exclusive feature. AAA gaming is just pointless now, they keep crunching workers and give us useless feature such as genital customization... Indie is the only way to get some fun without caveats.
@@spiderjerusalem8505 personally I would rather they put their budget onto something more tangible when playing the game... I mean, genital spec won't even add any immersion whatsoever, and that customization costs time and money. Trends like: Bigger Open World, Cutting Edge Path Tracing, Ultra Detail House in a racing game (Forza), Game Filter (TLoU), custom penis (CP2077 and now BG3) doesn't really add immersion or fun aspect of a game. The dev literally put working hours on these stuff rather than polishing the game. And we rant again because there are bugs and glitches that needed Day One Patch...
@@nickochioneantony9288 honestly, i think the only way for gaming to "become great again" is game decompilers becoming a popular thing. Just imagine exposing all of the game's code, allowing you FULL freedom for content creation/alteration/removal. Fuck it, let the industry die. (I'm not taking fetish/discord weirdos into account, otherwise this utopia i just wrote falls apart in nanoseconds LMAO)
Shaders were far less complex, but there was something nice about the aesthetics of the way those games looked. They were very dependent on the artists' ability to hand paint a really nice diffuse map.
*Now this is my kind of content seeing what budget hardware can do throughout the years seeing as many older games are quite better in most aspects compared to todays games hell i built my pc for the specific reason of playing older games at a bajillion fps while being able to enjoy 60fps newer games*
cloudpunk is something that's certainly caught my eye before but i'm honestly a bit suprised to not see a Deus ex game as the alternative for cyberpunk the 2013 directors cut of human revolution honestly feels like the perfect fit for this sort of video
I considered Deus Ex, but Mankind Divided would have been a bit heavy for this system - plus, I wanted an excuse to play Cloudpunk. It’s a recent indie title, too, which illustrates that modern gaming isn’t COMPLETELY broken.
So cheap in sales too and so well done that I who hates stealth games love the stealth mechanics in Human Revolution. I played it on 360 when it came out and was effing superb. I really should get to dishonoured, I ignored it on 360 and I've been reliably informed that I'm the one who lost out. I have no excuses because Epic gave me a free copy of the definitive edition.
@@walberparker7111 Not in every way at all. They do different things right. I prefer the original, but while the reboots don't scratch the same itch, they're honestly some of the best RPGs to be made in the west in the last decade. Not that there's much competition.
@@vlad54rus-a No, you need to manually change in ini settings in Documents\BioWare\Mass Effect\Config. It's a legacy bug, I found a post on reddit from 10 years ago that explain how to fix it.
@@moonknightish That ini tweak was only required to fix Garrus face. I've played this game several times and textures were always sharp as they should be.
As old as i am, i could experience some historic milestones in gaming, starting with eg rtype on amiga, doom1, many snes games. Then black and white or spore for the kids, the settlers. Wonderful creative concepts. I started to play a lot again when bf4 came out. Got addicted. All these deserved the hardware requirements they brought with them. But since 10 years i noticed that the games degraded, priority to hardware hunger and power consumtion, less focus on creative new mechanics, often very badly optimised games that didnt look so much better. Very interesting, the recent overwhelming success of battlebit remastered shows the way: focus on properly working core mechanics and smooth performance on a wide variety of hardware seems to be more important then brutal and soulless increase of graphical fidelity. Think also of inclusion, poor ppl in poor countries who are excluded by stupid dumb AAA hardware requirements. At the end, playing doesnt mean you need the most expensivectoys!
Old but gold games are really always there and part of why I find myself hesitant to recommend Arc despite the price cuts. Still, it is nice that even when you have a potato PC there are tons and tons of games that are there that are still wonderful. What's even sadder is TLoU was seen as a terrible port but as the year goes on it might actually be one of the better ones...
it's funny, in all the testing I've done of games, the ones I enjoyed playing the most are always the simple lighter titles. It's like a focus on gameplay over graphics leads to better games. who would have thought 🤯
You had me at the title. Modern gaming *is* rubbish. I literally play nothing newer than 2015 as of late. Emulation is the staple of my gaming experiences. I picked up a similar system with a 2640v3 and 32GB RAM, but I did manage to slap a cheap RTX 2060 that I managed to snag for £120 on ebay. Solid for some cheap gaming
I agree with the sentiment. I usually wait for a game to go on sale, at least half off. The only exceptions in the last decade or so are games that release under $25ish and Balders Gate 3. That last is what really good games used to be and then some.
While the games are good, there's also the literal classics i want to recommend. 1. Vampire the masquerade:bloodlines 2. The homeworld series, especially emergence/cataclysm(there's a remake of both 1 & 2, very optimized) 3. Total War: Shogun 2, Rome 1 and medieval 2 4. Fallout New Vegas 5. Alien Isolation 6. Saints Row (not the remake) 7. Both Thief 1 and 2 8. F. E. A. R. 9. The Stalker series 10. NFS Most Wanted All complete, great games that any pc after 2015 can run
The low texture quality of Mass effect is just a loading bug. Crank everything to max, go into game, leave game (idk if savegame is mandatory) and start game fresh (maybe even the pc - for a good measure). The textures of the og masseffect are not THAT bad.
Modern games on PC these days are having either higher minimum system requirements (such as 10 GB VRAM & above + hundreds GB just to store 1 game), predatory microtransactions, always online even with single player or simply for the sake of pushing 'THE MESSAGE'. Give us games that are low-end graphics card friendly & good gameplay or else, going the emulation route.
I don't have the time for the next few years (that's what studying chemistry does to you) but if I do land a cuchy 9 to 5 at some point, I'll definitely play through the backlog of great PC games.
This video is genuinely more useful for a lot of people than benchmarks on budget hardware which just can't get playable results for new games. Great job.
I have a question for you, Mr. Iceberg. 😊 While I'm sure the polycount is much lower in Dishonored than new games, I want to know how you can tell it is "low-poly". I don't even see the polygons, or if I do, it's just barely. How do you see the polygons? Where? I thought low-poly meant visible polygons as part of the design, or just PS1/N64-tier, and I'm a game developer. I just see 3D graphics.
15:53 - a another great suggestion would be the original Deus Ex, as that was the inspiration for Cyberpunk. It also still has a active multiplayer community.
I think Deus Ex: Human Revolution would've been a better alternative to Cyberpunk 2077. Also, I love Dishonored but Prey (2017) is objectively Arkane's true crowning achievement
This is what it all about. Marketing has everyone chasing comical frame rates in new games that are objectively bad. Meanwhile, the amount of older games that will run on a shoebox is massive. BG3 is about the only good thing we’ve seen in the gaming space recently, it might even be a "game changer".
Was Hoping to see a 'Alternative to Overwatch 2' With Team Fortress 2, but alas, it was not here. Nevertheless, I *COMPLETELY* Agree that Modern PC Gaming is Rubbish. In fact, I'd go a step further and say a *Gaming Crash similar to 1983 NEEDS to Happen.* The Gaming Industry is Full of Corrupt AAA Industries that are obsessed with Cash Grabs over Quality of Games, and the Indie Industry is Mixed to Good depending on who you ask. The Only Way to Weed out the Grain from the Chaff is to let it Burn in the Sun with its own obsessions. Nevertheless, I was surprised by the Games that you brought up here, and it is SOLID Proof that Gaming on a PC Does NOT Need to be Expensive. Great work on this, Iceberg! Looking forward to whatever you put out next!
I kind of hate Team Fortress 2 enough that even with Overwatch (1) discontinued, i wouldn't be inclined to play TF2 at all. I would play Unreal Tournament 2004 and Splitgate though. Also a game that is officially defunct but continued as private servers, S4League.
I picked up a HP Z240 for some budget PC content too. It has very similar specs to this machine, exact same RAM and GPU config. Nice to see what older machines like this can do when playing older games!
Even though the developers openly stated they don't support putin and his regime. Too many people jump to the xenophobic "all russians are bad" thinking.
@@riven4121 Or too much pain from seeing my city i grew up in half-destroyed and not enough Russians even vaguely giving a shit. Things are also a lot more complicated given the driving art choice of this game is Soviet nostalgia; and this is also a massive driving theme in Putin's propaganda. Maybe for no fault of developers in particular, things just aren't working out great for the vibes of the title.
about time someone said it. (SAYS THE DUDE WITH A OC FROM 2009) yes i have a Phenom II x4 965 BE 140Watt with 8GB of DDR3 ram and HD 5570 from powercolor and still rocking the old stuff and some modern stuff . Its an actual POTATO yes but i have DX12 on it somehow LMAO
You can also emulate old games that never had a PC release or was a console exclusive with the respective emulator. But like he said with Zelda BoTW, it can be performance heavy, now its recommended between all emulators to have a 6 core processor but 4 core works aswell and is what i use paired with a 1050 2gb, yes 2gb card in 2023. I use RPCS3 and Xenia for PS3 and Xbox 360 emulation respectively but I don't know about the other emulators for PS2, OG Xbox, Nintendo, ect.
To an extent the best emulator overall the most legendary i feel is Dolphin, that's for Gamecube and Wii. Games look good and it's quite frugal for most games. There's only a handful games i can think of that can cause trouble on an older PC, that's the fur rendering in Starfox Adventures and the complete and utter hardware abuse that is Star Wars Rogue Squadron 2 and 3. It requires a little finesse setting it up on weak systems, ideally you'd have DX12 support, less ideally Vulkan, and you want async shader and the first launch can be a little iffy with insufficient hardware. But any last-decade processor and a 1050 is not what i'd call insufficient, it can do with a lot less. For PS2 there's only one choice, RPCS2. There's also Play! but it's somewhat unfinished. Also i feel you can't quite have enough CPU performance (both a good number of threads and IPC) for a handful games, MGS3 in particular, but for the most part it's OK. Xbox OG is still trouble as of last i looked. Xemu is the less broken of the two but needs a modern high-IPC CPU. Most older guest systems, anything non-3D, plus early 3D ones, you just throw Retroarch on there and you're good.
@SianaGearz Right now I don't have any games I want to emulate with the emulators you mention but ill keep them in mind. The processor I have is a i7-7700 so its good just wish it was a i7 8th gen as those is where Intel started to have 6 cores. But hey it could be worse I could be stuck with a dual core. Anyways thanks for the information
Ngl we bought an amazing pc from my father and all I do in it play 700+ modded rimworld and use it for stable diffusion. Gonna play Hogwarts legacy in it someday but thats it.For the rest my laptop is more than enough. I didnt play an AAA game for a long time now. And probably wont get into even I buy a good pc. As a doctor I will get lots of money once I start working but again the only time I need more than 8 gb of vram is probably because of ai art. Not gonna play a bad optimized trash even if it is pirated
Yes Modern games are rubbish, and it should be said More. there are tons of games if you want to have fun and spend some time chilling at home. and you donc need 2000 dollars comuters to play at 4k 30 fps
was the snark when referencing people who want to avoid hogwarts legacy really necessary? the whole "all companies who make games have bad track records" doesn't even make sense in this context given that the reason people want to avoid HWL is based on one person and the amount of damage and power she herself can wield? and how she has repeatedly used her success and wealth from Harry Potter to justify herself and her disgusting views?
Still waiting for the bottleneck test with a 2011 i3 and an AMD 7900xtx. Thanks for the previous bottleneck tests. They were great. Basically, the question is.... What is the slowest CPU that makes sense for a 7900XTX so that I dont have to upgrade from that slow assed cpu that I may have, knowing that buying a slower Nvidia will force me to buy a 7800x3d..... I dont want to be forced by my GPU.
Games are so badly ported you question why I build a pc when a ps5 or xbox seems appealing. Or studios just tell there audience to shut up and be happy that the small updates.
This video legitimately makes me consider selling my 4090. Completely forgot how great and complete the games on the list are compared to the drivel that releases nowadays
wow, I remember talking to you in a random comment section waiting to break 1K! Congratulations on your hard work getting you up and over! I always wanted to build my own pc, but I was intimidated. Still am.
Com certeza, nós esquecemos que os videogames existem desde os anos 70, tem muuuita coisa que nós não conhecemos, jogos que tentaram conceitos muito antes dos jogos modernos que tiveram sucesso, outros tem história suuper legal como os jogos de Aventura do MS-DOS, que se apeoxima de uma leitura de livro que você joga.
The old Assassins Creed games, Far Cry games and even COD games had really good storylines. Modern games are not innovating in storytelling and presentations (especially the ones produced by US companies). Skyrim had great story and even really meaningful side quests. Same goes for all other games from 2010 - 2015.
I'm currently playing Bioshock 2, such a good game and the remaster still looks decently well. I primarily play indie games (take a look at Path of Achra or Against the Storm) or older games nowadays . It's really hard to get excited for buggy and hardware-hungry 60 € AAA-games. I also enjoyed Cloudpunk!
There is a reason the only game i have bought this year is battlebit remastered its bf but good and i have replayed dishonoured (i refuse to spell it the american way) and its sequel because they are good games. I wish i had a backlog but i played everything i wanted to play just waiting for something good to come along and given current trend of just slapping upscales on everything and having everything be a remaster or re hash of old games just with worse optimization ubisoft am looking at you.
I recently started a play through of Stalker: Shadow of Chernobyl. It a modded version that doesn’t require the base game and I love it. It’s slightly buggy and the textures are from 2008. But it works and it’s damn fun in an era of vapid, shitty releases.
Just Cause 2 from 2010 is a wail of a good time. Sure the story is bland, but you can hurry through it easy enough and the rest of the game is a ton of fun to cause chaos in. Plus it has quite the selection of mods that can both improve the gameplay and let you mess around even more. Steam sales often put it on special for just a couple bucks, so it’s definitely worth keeping an eye on! Just Cause 3 takes everything to another level and is also fun; I’m just far more nostalgic about 2 and it runs on older / lower end machines.
The only issue Nvidia has is their god awful pricing. Drivers are fine on Nvidia cards. AMD needs to also quit being diet Nvidia and also up their software support
When you think about it, the xx60 graphics cards from Nvidia should be priced around $180 to $250. But now, the norm is $350. I'd rather buy from the used market than give my money to greedy companies.
Myb im not only one.. i have a rig for cyber punk but i dont play it and i dont want to buy it...its borring for me its just like gta v in the future... The game is just like benchmark for your rig.. I rather enjoy games like: God of War 2018,and Ragnarok,elder ring,red dead redemption 2,withcer,cs 2,doom eternal and 2016,skyrim, black myth wukong,lara croft trilogy,resident evil,alan wake,hogwarts legacy,diablo....
I bought a 4090 with the top end other specs to match but I notice very little difference from my PS5 to my 4090 pc seems like pc gaming is very overhyped graphics nothing mind blowing it’s about the same fps does get higher I give it that but wasn’t worth me dropping 4000$ on
I haven't a single new game. I play on a r5 3600 and 2060, so I play older games like Fortnite, Bf2042, NFS heat, Civ 6 because they run well and I enjoy playing them. No need to waste money on a game that doesn't run well and isn't that good anyways.
I truly wonder how people are interested in games past 2020, now to be clear I am 17 typing this. The latest games I play are cyberpunk and stray. I was never into god of war, so playing Ragnarok was out of the question, same with the horizon series and Witcher 3 with it's next gen patch. I don't have interests for Hogwarts Legacy and spiderman either. Yeah you can say I'm boring but I rather prefer red dead, the last of us games and basically all the other ps exclusives, if you can call them exclusives anymore... I wonder how y'all do it.
Am I the only one who really doesn't give two and a half f*cks about draphics? Like if you keep thinking about the framerate and graphics beyond the first 20 minutes of the game, the game is junk. Every single new game is junk, kind of saved by nice looking graphics.
Gaming is one thing where you can easily pay the last 90% of the money for the last 10% of the value. It's often surprising how good games look on low, and how little hardware you need to achieve it.
I'm playing on a GTX 680 paired with i7 2600K (slightly overclocked), and anything under Direct X 12 -based games, runs great on 1080p. Surprised how well it goes! Plenty of performance.
I honestly think the jump between the graphics in the games shown and a lot of modern ones is noticeable but slim for the hardware people are packing today, exceptions maybe being Cyberpunk, FF7 Remake and Ratchett and Clank, maybe. Graphics accross sytems have had a very ps4 type looking vibe for about the last 10 years, despite PC processing going way up. I'm sure there are other examples of good looking games I've not thought of or know but titles provided by other uses will be there to higlight my point more that optimisation is the issue. I'm kind of fuming I treated myself to a 3080, my first ever brand new card, almost got a 3070 but thought about the Vram back before it was a serious issue as I wanted to make sure this card would last and now I'm thinking 10gb Vram right now is the minimum you want to be buying a card with. I'll be gaming back at 1080p in no time...
@@LightMCXx I'm not buying a card for a while so I'll have to see when the time comes but I think the next 2-3 years is gonna shake up the market both on the games and graphics card side of things so I will wait for things to settle and play at 1080p if need be.
I think it's unlikely that you made a choice that will let you down in the foreseeable future. While i find NV's strategy despicable, they are absolutely cutting the amount of VRAM on purpose in the hope to create more upgrade pressure in the future and so that the cheap consumer cards don't cannibalise the workstation market, but as a result there are just SO MANY 8GB GPUs regardless of computational and IO throughput that they have been releasing, that gamedevs will just have to keep them relevant, and the odd exception is effectively a bug. And you have a couple gig extra for more frame/intermediate buffers. Like there's an 8gig 4060ti, imagine that, bloody hell.
I will write an alternative to every alternative you write: Before you ask, the alternative is not intended to mirror your genres, you just stick to 3rd person games. Shank Second Sight Need for Speed hot pursuit 2010 Kingdoms of Amalur Reckoning Mass Effect Darksiders 2 Warframe Call of duty 4 Remastered Torchlight 2 Trine 1 & 2. I wanted to fire in some RTS games like StarCraft 2, Warcraft 3, Command and Conquer 3 tiberium wars but I figured it's probably not suitable for your audience? Idk, great games though.
I just bought a slightly newer P520 with a Xeon 2135, no gpu, for $159. Added a 2TB nvme ssd for $39 (insane deal) and a GTX 1080 for $115. For $335 after sales tax, its cheapest and the most powerful PC Ive ever owned by far on both counts.
The Spiderwick Chronicles, Wheelman, Sword and sandals, The lord of the rings conquest, Demon roots. Just thought i would throw a few older maybe lesser thought of games out there... Crashday, BloodBowl, Spore, Icewind dale, Aoe, Prison architect... idk maybe this helps somebody find their next game. Thrillville off the rails... the first zoo tycoon... bookworm adventures... Command and conquer Renegade(fps believe it or not) Starwars Republic commando, knights of the old republic The list goes on I think the most intensive game i have ever played was Skyrim special edition or project zomboid... maybe farcry primal... Castle miner z( if anybody still plays it is fun) Farcry blood dragon, postal 2, age of fear, Fate the traitors soul... Battlefield bad company 2 The list keeps going and so does my phenom II and gtx 970
9th gen console ports are of course going to be more demanding, but that's no excuse for such poor optimization. If cards of the RX 6700/3060 Ti levels struggle to run them at 1080p/60fps, it was essentially released unfinished.
I have a 3080 and I play DRG, (vampire) survivos-like games, Bloons TD6, and random indie games. I have no desire to play so-called "AAA" titles that are heavily unoptimized and trying to push some sort of milquetoast agenda. Not to mention they're mostly all uninspired rehashes of older games. The first and last game that I ever pre-ordered was Dark Souls 2. I loved DS1, but DS2 sucked so hard that I quickly learned my lesson and will never pre-order a game ever again. Too many people constantly complain about how bad modern gaming is, whilst continuously throwing money at the devs they supposedly hate (Activision/Blizzard especially). Self-control and voting with your wallet is how you win, also realising that you're not even having fun. Begs the question: why even play games?
You should include these games as well: Left 4 Dead 2: INSANELY CHEAP in Steam and still has working dedicated servers, if you're lucky this game goes around a dollar on steam sales. Good for singleplayer or even multiplayer gameplay beloved by any generation due to its ease of access and straigt forward gameplay. The original Call of Duty Modern Warfare Trilogy: the basics of every shooter in a modern setting that still have good quality graphics for most old hardware. The remastered original 1 and 2 can still run on low end gpus with 2gb of vram with sacrificed settings but still visually better a bit than the original. Assassin's Creed Black Flag: Still one of the best AC stories that doesn't require you 100 hours of gameplay, but is still amazing enough to make you play 100 hours ( *sea shanties and ship travel intensifies* ) All in all, these games do not require grinding, time sacrifice, or high skill. Just plug and play, straightforward as it is unlike most games this year
I played Fallout 4 without stutter on a R7 240 1 gb ddr5, now i have a rx5600XT which weights around 2kg but i honestly don't know why modern games need so much firepower, i still play older games on integrated graphics and they are flawless while also looking good(Flatout and Knights of Honor come to mind).
There were always games that exceeded hardware capabilities. The most glaring example is Crysis, of course, but there's more. Have you ever tried to run Doom (yes, the original 1993) on its contemporary "recommended" hardware? Quake 1 boned old PCs right from behind. Unreal had unreal system requirements for maximum settings at decent framerates / resolutions. Doom 3 with shadows enabled and 16x antialiasing was a slideshow, Half-Life 2 and FarCry were exceptionally well optimized for weaker hardware on lower settings (played them on MX440 at the time), but on ultra+antialiasing it kicked most but the toppest of the top GPUs in the face. Oh, also let's not forget F.E.A.R. The glaring difference between those games and piles of dung we so often get into our faces these days is that those were finished, whole products back then. All content was there, and it literally just worked unless you intentionally and insistently seek ways to glitch the hell out. Today, studios want you to either buy a "foundation" and "build" on top of it with DLCs and lootboxes and other paid content to leech out all they can from your wallet, or throw essentially paid beta-tests / indev versions on the market, and sometimes just both at the same time. The majority of AAA devs no longer make "games", they make "product". The attitude is basically "if we hype it good, enough people will buy it anyway for us to make some profit, so why bother" or " this title has a huge fanbase, why don't we slap out a sequel or remaster with minimum effort, just use unreal engine, it has all the tech already built in". Entire franchises, once adored, roll down the hill towards the poop lake under this banner, and some has already ended down on the bottom.
I love when people call me out for being okay with RTX 2060, which I also got for 185 euros. And then I have to explain, that I'm not playing newer games anyway, since they're also not that interesting... and then they get more triggered, cause that's all that the people want nowadays, "all the latest and greatest". but what if I told u, that all the "latest" can also be your "worst". So what do I mean by "all the latest, can also be your worst"? Well, when I just got into PC gaming, all I wanted to do, is play gta san andreas, call of duty 2, and everything else that my pc could actually "handle" and they were quite old even back then. And also I realized that even back then, people did not care about the hardware as much as nowadays. Cause it's like a new drug for them. Their brain keeps telling them that they need this, otherwise it won't handle the latest game (aka, unoptimized peace of crap, released on 2023.) So in my opinion, don't just play all the "latest and greatest (cope)", but also play "the oldest but goldest". I notice that people keep telling me as well, that your PC hardware is quite old, and you should upgrade... and it's just sad to see the direction that we are going now. have we forgotten the true meaning for "PC Gaming", what was PC gaming anyways, back in 2013, 2014, 2015 for example? your hardware today, can probably handle all these games, that you wish you could play (back in those days). so what are you waiting for? take your GTX 1060, and play all the greatest games, from the good era, not like "2023 era", that people tend to stick for nowadays...
There are some RPG games that feel like Cyberpunk 2077, but I haven't encountered a cyberpunk game that feels like Cyberpunk 2077. I find it really hard to find a cyberpunk game that doesn't feel tedious and boring. Ignoring the bugs, CP2077 has both narrative and gameplay done greatly. I highly recommend picking it up as soon as you get the chance.
For Skyrim you can go up to 99fps without physics issues. Uncap the fps via config file (or Steam command evidently), then cap the fps with your Nvidia or AMD drivers to 98fps. Done. You should now be at 98-99 fps at all times.
Why does it hurt to hear someone describe the 360 Era as "potato graphics"
AM I GETTING OLD?!
Zoomers are already calling it retro which is pretty funny since games haven't changed at all since that era, even ps2 era if we want to be specific.
Uhhh but the ps3, wii and 360 are retro, remember the ps4/xbox one launched 10 years ago, gen 7th launched at least 15 years ago. Doesn’t matter if the games are somewhat the same since then
@@EnkirexNot really retro will always be for me starting with NES up to PS1, everything else feel and look too modern
I mean that's just not correct tbh. Modern games don't look any better if not worse. I won't name specific ones as people will always get upset. But generally modern games in max settings 4k look pretty bad compared to older ones.
Aight, to be fair, early 360 games had a bad habit of chasing realism (despite having a poor grasp of the hardware still) and putting brown 'n' bloom over eveything. The result was pretty potato-y
BG3 showed me that I'm not used to playing good games anymore
God, I want to buy that game but I know for a fact I have multiple games sitting in my backlog that I also bought on this impulse and haven't finished yet. I'll have to wait till it's on sale lol.
@@SumRndmPenguin i usually pirate games nowadays because they are bad, i did the same but i was like "ok this is awesome they deserve my money" and just bought it full price
I dont remember the last time I enjoyed a game this much, its great, i recommend it
@@denikecfor real, I usually quit games after an hour of playing it and not looking back. But BG3 made me unable to stop playing for almost 20 hours now.
This. I would recommend BG3 every single day of the year
@@SumRndmPenguinMaybe it’s a good idea to wait until they release definitive edition then. The game is awesome but unfortunately they cut quite a lot of content from act 3 right before release which screwed up some questlines. It was similar with their previous game and they normally add this content back a year or so after release.
Shadow of War, the sequel to Shadow of Mordor is also surprisingly scalable and a big improvement to the original game. I played it at 30 fps with a measly R7 250 2GB GPU.
Raytracing beefed up system requirements for all games... Everyone hypes it as black gold of gaming...
you know that games below 2017 is playable on Intel HD Graphic targeting 30fps 1080p... and those old games looks better on LOW rather than 2022's LOW.
Low setting (except competitive games) in nowadays gaming is just pure nausea. It forces us to buy a 'budget' GPU, while keep bullshitting us via upscalling and next gen exclusive feature.
AAA gaming is just pointless now, they keep crunching workers and give us useless feature such as genital customization... Indie is the only way to get some fun without caveats.
@@nickochioneantony9288, but the game with genital customisation that came out in 2023 IS pretty good, gaming highlight of last 20 years even 🤔
@@spiderjerusalem8505 personally I would rather they put their budget onto something more tangible when playing the game... I mean, genital spec won't even add any immersion whatsoever, and that customization costs time and money.
Trends like: Bigger Open World, Cutting Edge Path Tracing, Ultra Detail House in a racing game (Forza), Game Filter (TLoU), custom penis (CP2077 and now BG3) doesn't really add immersion or fun aspect of a game. The dev literally put working hours on these stuff rather than polishing the game.
And we rant again because there are bugs and glitches that needed Day One Patch...
@@nickochioneantony9288 honestly, i think the only way for gaming to "become great again" is game decompilers becoming a popular thing. Just imagine exposing all of the game's code, allowing you FULL freedom for content creation/alteration/removal. Fuck it, let the industry die. (I'm not taking fetish/discord weirdos into account, otherwise this utopia i just wrote falls apart in nanoseconds LMAO)
Shaders were far less complex, but there was something nice about the aesthetics of the way those games looked. They were very dependent on the artists' ability to hand paint a really nice diffuse map.
Well said
love to see a tech guy finally abandon current day slop and play a good game for once, nature is healing
*Now this is my kind of content seeing what budget hardware can do throughout the years seeing as many older games are quite better in most aspects compared to todays games hell i built my pc for the specific reason of playing older games at a bajillion fps while being able to enjoy 60fps newer games*
cloudpunk is something that's certainly caught my eye before but i'm honestly a bit suprised to not see a Deus ex game as the alternative for cyberpunk the 2013 directors cut of human revolution honestly feels like the perfect fit for this sort of video
I considered Deus Ex, but Mankind Divided would have been a bit heavy for this system - plus, I wanted an excuse to play Cloudpunk. It’s a recent indie title, too, which illustrates that modern gaming isn’t COMPLETELY broken.
So cheap in sales too and so well done that I who hates stealth games love the stealth mechanics in Human Revolution. I played it on 360 when it came out and was effing superb. I really should get to dishonoured, I ignored it on 360 and I've been reliably informed that I'm the one who lost out. I have no excuses because Epic gave me a free copy of the definitive edition.
It would have ran just fine
The original deus ex is superior in every way anyway
@@walberparker7111 Not in every way at all. They do different things right. I prefer the original, but while the reboots don't scratch the same itch, they're honestly some of the best RPGs to be made in the west in the last decade. Not that there's much competition.
Its just shit, cause of greed and no optimization.
Based as always, iceberg. Love your commentary and your perspective on tech
Mass Effect 1 textures are that low res because there is a bug. The original PC game of 2007 has textures in higher resolution than that.
I bet he just forgot to restart the game after changing graphical settings. The default settings have everything at low.
@@vlad54rus-a No, you need to manually change in ini settings in Documents\BioWare\Mass Effect\Config. It's a legacy bug, I found a post on reddit from 10 years ago that explain how to fix it.
@@moonknightish That ini tweak was only required to fix Garrus face. I've played this game several times and textures were always sharp as they should be.
As old as i am, i could experience some historic milestones in gaming, starting with eg rtype on amiga, doom1, many snes games. Then black and white or spore for the kids, the settlers. Wonderful creative concepts. I started to play a lot again when bf4 came out. Got addicted. All these deserved the hardware requirements they brought with them. But since 10 years i noticed that the games degraded, priority to hardware hunger and power consumtion, less focus on creative new mechanics, often very badly optimised games that didnt look so much better. Very interesting, the recent overwhelming success of battlebit remastered shows the way: focus on properly working core mechanics and smooth performance on a wide variety of hardware seems to be more important then brutal and soulless increase of graphical fidelity. Think also of inclusion, poor ppl in poor countries who are excluded by stupid dumb AAA hardware requirements. At the end, playing doesnt mean you need the most expensivectoys!
Old but gold games are really always there and part of why I find myself hesitant to recommend Arc despite the price cuts. Still, it is nice that even when you have a potato PC there are tons and tons of games that are there that are still wonderful.
What's even sadder is TLoU was seen as a terrible port but as the year goes on it might actually be one of the better ones...
it's funny, in all the testing I've done of games, the ones I enjoyed playing the most are always the simple lighter titles. It's like a focus on gameplay over graphics leads to better games. who would have thought 🤯
I've been wanting to upgrade my 5700xt for like a year and there's nothing. I've basically given up looking.
Really love your channel,
as someone with an old / not old ryzen 2600 and gtx 1650, rtx 4090ish content is getting old lol.
What a GORGEOUS GPU this quadro is. I'm in love.
I have a feeling it may be up for sale soon ;)
You had me at the title. Modern gaming *is* rubbish. I literally play nothing newer than 2015 as of late. Emulation is the staple of my gaming experiences. I picked up a similar system with a 2640v3 and 32GB RAM, but I did manage to slap a cheap RTX 2060 that I managed to snag for £120 on ebay. Solid for some cheap gaming
Same
I agree with the sentiment. I usually wait for a game to go on sale, at least half off. The only exceptions in the last decade or so are games that release under $25ish and Balders Gate 3. That last is what really good games used to be and then some.
It really should say modern AAA gaming is trash. There are a lot of great games not made by the big publishers that have come out
@@crestofhonor2349 Peak internet comment
While the games are good, there's also the literal classics i want to recommend.
1. Vampire the masquerade:bloodlines
2. The homeworld series, especially emergence/cataclysm(there's a remake of both 1 & 2, very optimized)
3. Total War: Shogun 2, Rome 1 and medieval 2
4. Fallout New Vegas
5. Alien Isolation
6. Saints Row (not the remake)
7. Both Thief 1 and 2
8. F. E. A. R.
9. The Stalker series
10. NFS Most Wanted
All complete, great games that any pc after 2015 can run
Atomic heart is actually pretty good
Unique setting, a unique nuke dukem type of voice acting and one liners which are pretty funny and it looks good
Yeah, I love it so far! Bout to get back to it after this video, it's quite funny and i dont really get how people find it "offensive".
The low texture quality of Mass effect is just a loading bug. Crank everything to max, go into game, leave game (idk if savegame is mandatory) and start game fresh (maybe even the pc - for a good measure).
The textures of the og masseffect are not THAT bad.
Modern games on PC these days are having either higher minimum system requirements (such as 10 GB VRAM & above + hundreds GB just to store 1 game), predatory microtransactions, always online even with single player or simply for the sake of pushing 'THE MESSAGE'. Give us games that are low-end graphics card friendly & good gameplay or else, going the emulation route.
Videos like this are going to become more important for future gamers to explore the genre.
I don't have the time for the next few years (that's what studying chemistry does to you) but if I do land a cuchy 9 to 5 at some point, I'll definitely play through the backlog of great PC games.
This video is genuinely more useful for a lot of people than benchmarks on budget hardware which just can't get playable results for new games. Great job.
I should really replay Tombraider
Texture quality in Mass Effect (2007) is bugged, and what is shown is the equivalent of the “very low” setting.
There are fixes though.
I have a question for you, Mr. Iceberg. 😊 While I'm sure the polycount is much lower in Dishonored than new games, I want to know how you can tell it is "low-poly". I don't even see the polygons, or if I do, it's just barely. How do you see the polygons? Where? I thought low-poly meant visible polygons as part of the design, or just PS1/N64-tier, and I'm a game developer. I just see 3D graphics.
Soon as I saw Atomic Heart hit the screen I knew what the pick was gonna be. A way better game!
Why not Singularity?
*Great stuff, I've got a P520 with a RX570 4GB in mine* ❤
Mirror's Edge does also make a really good alternative to Cyberpunk 2077
Deus Ex: Human Revolution also.
15:53 - a another great suggestion would be the original Deus Ex, as that was the inspiration for Cyberpunk. It also still has a active multiplayer community.
Man, the CPU of that Lenovo build is faster than the one in my desktop, but the GPU is worse than the one in my laptop.
Dishonored really shows how bad Arcane messed up on Redfall
I think Deus Ex: Human Revolution would've been a better alternative to Cyberpunk 2077. Also, I love Dishonored but Prey (2017) is objectively Arkane's true crowning achievement
This is what it all about. Marketing has everyone chasing comical frame rates in new games that are objectively bad. Meanwhile, the amount of older games that will run on a shoebox is massive. BG3 is about the only good thing we’ve seen in the gaming space recently, it might even be a "game changer".
Was Hoping to see a 'Alternative to Overwatch 2' With Team Fortress 2, but alas, it was not here.
Nevertheless, I *COMPLETELY* Agree that Modern PC Gaming is Rubbish. In fact, I'd go a step further and say a *Gaming Crash similar to 1983 NEEDS to Happen.*
The Gaming Industry is Full of Corrupt AAA Industries that are obsessed with Cash Grabs over Quality of Games, and the Indie Industry is Mixed to Good depending on who you ask.
The Only Way to Weed out the Grain from the Chaff is to let it Burn in the Sun with its own obsessions.
Nevertheless, I was surprised by the Games that you brought up here, and it is SOLID Proof that Gaming on a PC Does NOT Need to be Expensive.
Great work on this, Iceberg! Looking forward to whatever you put out next!
I kind of hate Team Fortress 2 enough that even with Overwatch (1) discontinued, i wouldn't be inclined to play TF2 at all.
I would play Unreal Tournament 2004 and Splitgate though. Also a game that is officially defunct but continued as private servers, S4League.
I picked up a HP Z240 for some budget PC content too. It has very similar specs to this machine, exact same RAM and GPU config. Nice to see what older machines like this can do when playing older games!
9:09 morrowind recommendation would've been hilarious.
Hey, the force unleashed was a pretty good game imo
Atomic Heart is a bad game because it offended people for being developed in Russia🤡
I support the current thing
Noooo you can't just make games! you're all evil!!!!
Even though the developers openly stated they don't support putin and his regime.
Too many people jump to the xenophobic "all russians are bad" thinking.
@@riven4121 Or too much pain from seeing my city i grew up in half-destroyed and not enough Russians even vaguely giving a shit. Things are also a lot more complicated given the driving art choice of this game is Soviet nostalgia; and this is also a massive driving theme in Putin's propaganda. Maybe for no fault of developers in particular, things just aren't working out great for the vibes of the title.
@@SianaGearz it probably doesnt help that usa staged a coop and unofficially took over. You got a no body installed as a leader.
about time someone said it. (SAYS THE DUDE WITH A OC FROM 2009)
yes i have a Phenom II x4 965 BE 140Watt with 8GB of DDR3 ram and HD 5570 from powercolor and still rocking the old stuff and some modern stuff . Its an actual POTATO yes but i have DX12 on it somehow LMAO
Crazy to see this becoming a big channel! I started watching at under 2k subs - watching the ride up has been so cool; keep it up!
Willing to see the rtx 2070m from AliExpress or CMP 40hx GPUs which are the same as 2070 but with much cheaper price
You can also emulate old games that never had a PC release or was a console exclusive with the respective emulator. But like he said with Zelda BoTW, it can be performance heavy, now its recommended between all emulators to have a 6 core processor but 4 core works aswell and is what i use paired with a 1050 2gb, yes 2gb card in 2023. I use RPCS3 and Xenia for PS3 and Xbox 360 emulation respectively but I don't know about the other emulators for PS2, OG Xbox, Nintendo, ect.
To an extent the best emulator overall the most legendary i feel is Dolphin, that's for Gamecube and Wii. Games look good and it's quite frugal for most games. There's only a handful games i can think of that can cause trouble on an older PC, that's the fur rendering in Starfox Adventures and the complete and utter hardware abuse that is Star Wars Rogue Squadron 2 and 3. It requires a little finesse setting it up on weak systems, ideally you'd have DX12 support, less ideally Vulkan, and you want async shader and the first launch can be a little iffy with insufficient hardware. But any last-decade processor and a 1050 is not what i'd call insufficient, it can do with a lot less.
For PS2 there's only one choice, RPCS2. There's also Play! but it's somewhat unfinished. Also i feel you can't quite have enough CPU performance (both a good number of threads and IPC) for a handful games, MGS3 in particular, but for the most part it's OK.
Xbox OG is still trouble as of last i looked. Xemu is the less broken of the two but needs a modern high-IPC CPU. Most older guest systems, anything non-3D, plus early 3D ones, you just throw Retroarch on there and you're good.
@SianaGearz Right now I don't have any games I want to emulate with the emulators you mention but ill keep them in mind. The processor I have is a i7-7700 so its good just wish it was a i7 8th gen as those is where Intel started to have 6 cores. But hey it could be worse I could be stuck with a dual core. Anyways thanks for the information
Have you tried the rx 580 2034sp? It's literally 3 times stronger than the gt1030 and it's priced below $100
Ngl we bought an amazing pc from my father and all I do in it play 700+ modded rimworld and use it for stable diffusion. Gonna play Hogwarts legacy in it someday but thats it.For the rest my laptop is more than enough. I didnt play an AAA game for a long time now. And probably wont get into even I buy a good pc. As a doctor I will get lots of money once I start working but again the only time I need more than 8 gb of vram is probably because of ai art. Not gonna play a bad optimized trash even if it is pirated
Really enjoyed the descriptions of all the games, especially the Battlebit review 👍
ksp2 disappointed me even tho it was a rather small release
They overpromised and underdelivered, a bit like No Man's Sky, except I'm not so sure KSP 2 will redeem itself like the latter did
Yes Modern games are rubbish, and it should be said More. there are tons of games if you want to have fun and spend some time chilling at home. and you donc need 2000 dollars comuters to play at 4k 30 fps
was the snark when referencing people who want to avoid hogwarts legacy really necessary? the whole "all companies who make games have bad track records" doesn't even make sense in this context given that the reason people want to avoid HWL is based on one person and the amount of damage and power she herself can wield? and how she has repeatedly used her success and wealth from Harry Potter to justify herself and her disgusting views?
Still waiting for the bottleneck test with a 2011 i3 and an AMD 7900xtx.
Thanks for the previous bottleneck tests.
They were great.
Basically, the question is.... What is the slowest CPU that makes sense for a 7900XTX so that I dont have to upgrade from that slow assed cpu that I may have, knowing that buying a slower Nvidia will force me to buy a 7800x3d..... I dont want to be forced by my GPU.
Baseline 5600 is just a 5600x that didn't boost as high as AMD wanted, they're much cheaper.
maybe the 5600x or 5800X3d
Games are so badly ported you question why I build a pc when a ps5 or xbox seems appealing. Or studios just tell there audience to shut up and be happy that the small updates.
8:28 Oh come on, man! Don't tell me you're that mindless. Hahahaha!
Er, little nervous for you that you encouraged emulation. Nintendo has been on everyone's back lately 😂
Good Games as opposed to the modern glop that has to have "The Message". Thanks!
Install some better Xeon with more core count and OC-ed it! ;-)
This video legitimately makes me consider selling my 4090. Completely forgot how great and complete the games on the list are compared to the drivel that releases nowadays
Don't do it man. This is a pretty expensive GPU that everyone want it.
wow, I remember talking to you in a random comment section waiting to break 1K!
Congratulations on your hard work getting you up and over!
I always wanted to build my own pc, but I was intimidated. Still am.
its crazy how good NFS Hot Pursuit (2010 release not the remaster) looks running on even a 650ti or similar gpu, if not even on 7th consoles.
esse video e a prova que para ter um bom pc gamer não precisa gastar muito
Com certeza, nós esquecemos que os videogames existem desde os anos 70, tem muuuita coisa que nós não conhecemos, jogos que tentaram conceitos muito antes dos jogos modernos que tiveram sucesso, outros tem história suuper legal como os jogos de Aventura do MS-DOS, que se apeoxima de uma leitura de livro que você joga.
Iceberg Tech: Modern PC Gaming is Rubbish
Me having a decent job and can finally afford a gaming PC: 💀🗿
Meh, you don't have to take my word for it, I'm just a muppet with a platform!
The old Assassins Creed games, Far Cry games and even COD games had really good storylines. Modern games are not innovating in storytelling and presentations (especially the ones produced by US companies). Skyrim had great story and even really meaningful side quests. Same goes for all other games from 2010 - 2015.
Ryujinx is also pretty good for Switch
I'm currently playing Bioshock 2, such a good game and the remaster still looks decently well. I primarily play indie games (take a look at Path of Achra or Against the Storm) or older games nowadays . It's really hard to get excited for buggy and hardware-hungry 60 € AAA-games. I also enjoyed Cloudpunk!
There is a reason the only game i have bought this year is battlebit remastered its bf but good and i have replayed dishonoured (i refuse to spell it the american way) and its sequel because they are good games. I wish i had a backlog but i played everything i wanted to play just waiting for something good to come along and given current trend of just slapping upscales on everything and having everything be a remaster or re hash of old games just with worse optimization ubisoft am looking at you.
I recently started a play through of Stalker: Shadow of Chernobyl. It a modded version that doesn’t require the base game and I love it. It’s slightly buggy and the textures are from 2008. But it works and it’s damn fun in an era of vapid, shitty releases.
borderlands guys...play borderlands
Just Cause 2 from 2010 is a wail of a good time. Sure the story is bland, but you can hurry through it easy enough and the rest of the game is a ton of fun to cause chaos in. Plus it has quite the selection of mods that can both improve the gameplay and let you mess around even more. Steam sales often put it on special for just a couple bucks, so it’s definitely worth keeping an eye on!
Just Cause 3 takes everything to another level and is also fun; I’m just far more nostalgic about 2 and it runs on older / lower end machines.
Its like nvidia and amd devs going from genious brains to potato brains .
The only issue Nvidia has is their god awful pricing. Drivers are fine on Nvidia cards. AMD needs to also quit being diet Nvidia and also up their software support
YOU CAN NEVER HAVE ENOUGH RAM!
I clocked out as soon as you put mass effect as a jedi survivor alternative.What an asinine comparison
Custom AMD 7nm 2/4/6/8/10x2 cores / ddr4 4000 cl14 / B555 single slot / NVme3 1tb / SSD 1tb / 700watt smart core power supply / self powered USB3 hub to combat cheaters
When you think about it, the xx60 graphics cards from Nvidia should be priced around $180 to $250. But now, the norm is $350.
I'd rather buy from the used market than give my money to greedy companies.
Myb im not only one.. i have a rig for cyber punk but i dont play it and i dont want to buy it...its borring for me its just like gta v in the future...
The game is just like benchmark for your rig..
I rather enjoy games like: God of War 2018,and Ragnarok,elder ring,red dead redemption 2,withcer,cs 2,doom eternal and 2016,skyrim, black myth wukong,lara croft trilogy,resident evil,alan wake,hogwarts legacy,diablo....
I bought a 4090 with the top end other specs to match but I notice very little difference from my PS5 to my 4090 pc seems like pc gaming is very overhyped graphics nothing mind blowing it’s about the same fps does get higher I give it that but wasn’t worth me dropping 4000$ on
I haven't a single new game. I play on a r5 3600 and 2060, so I play older games like Fortnite, Bf2042, NFS heat, Civ 6 because they run well and I enjoy playing them. No need to waste money on a game that doesn't run well and isn't that good anyways.
I truly wonder how people are interested in games past 2020, now to be clear I am 17 typing this. The latest games I play are cyberpunk and stray.
I was never into god of war, so playing Ragnarok was out of the question, same with the horizon series and Witcher 3 with it's next gen patch. I don't have interests for Hogwarts Legacy and spiderman either.
Yeah you can say I'm boring but I rather prefer red dead, the last of us games and basically all the other ps exclusives, if you can call them exclusives anymore...
I wonder how y'all do it.
Am I the only one who really doesn't give two and a half f*cks about draphics?
Like if you keep thinking about the framerate and graphics beyond the first 20 minutes of the game, the game is junk.
Every single new game is junk, kind of saved by nice looking graphics.
Oblivion > Skyrim
Gaming is one thing where you can easily pay the last 90% of the money for the last 10% of the value. It's often surprising how good games look on low, and how little hardware you need to achieve it.
Glad I found this Channel. 🖖🏻
I'm playing on a GTX 680 paired with i7 2600K (slightly overclocked), and anything under Direct X 12 -based games, runs great on 1080p. Surprised how well it goes! Plenty of performance.
I honestly think the jump between the graphics in the games shown and a lot of modern ones is noticeable but slim for the hardware people are packing today, exceptions maybe being Cyberpunk, FF7 Remake and Ratchett and Clank, maybe. Graphics accross sytems have had a very ps4 type looking vibe for about the last 10 years, despite PC processing going way up.
I'm sure there are other examples of good looking games I've not thought of or know but titles provided by other uses will be there to higlight my point more that optimisation is the issue.
I'm kind of fuming I treated myself to a 3080, my first ever brand new card, almost got a 3070 but thought about the Vram back before it was a serious issue as I wanted to make sure this card would last and now I'm thinking 10gb Vram right now is the minimum you want to be buying a card with. I'll be gaming back at 1080p in no time...
Go for AMD
@@LightMCXx I'm not buying a card for a while so I'll have to see when the time comes but I think the next 2-3 years is gonna shake up the market both on the games and graphics card side of things so I will wait for things to settle and play at 1080p if need be.
I think it's unlikely that you made a choice that will let you down in the foreseeable future. While i find NV's strategy despicable, they are absolutely cutting the amount of VRAM on purpose in the hope to create more upgrade pressure in the future and so that the cheap consumer cards don't cannibalise the workstation market, but as a result there are just SO MANY 8GB GPUs regardless of computational and IO throughput that they have been releasing, that gamedevs will just have to keep them relevant, and the odd exception is effectively a bug. And you have a couple gig extra for more frame/intermediate buffers. Like there's an 8gig 4060ti, imagine that, bloody hell.
Alternative to Forskpoken and Hogwarts Legacy: The Witcher 2 and 3
I will write an alternative to every alternative you write:
Before you ask, the alternative is not intended to mirror your genres, you just stick to 3rd person games.
Shank
Second Sight
Need for Speed hot pursuit 2010
Kingdoms of Amalur Reckoning
Mass Effect
Darksiders 2
Warframe
Call of duty 4 Remastered
Torchlight 2
Trine 1 & 2.
I wanted to fire in some RTS games like StarCraft 2, Warcraft 3, Command and Conquer 3 tiberium wars but I figured it's probably not suitable for your audience? Idk, great games though.
Wait I didn't know you could get Dead Space 2 for free
Edit: It is just people who has pre ordered the remake.
I miss the days when games came out and it was actually playable.
I think the best alternative to cyberpunk would be Deus Ex but that would be another immersive sim game on this list
Nice I used Dell precision 5010 xeon are great on high intesive processor game I combo it to rx580
I just bought a slightly newer P520 with a Xeon 2135, no gpu, for $159. Added a 2TB nvme ssd for $39 (insane deal) and a GTX 1080 for $115. For $335 after sales tax, its cheapest and the most powerful PC Ive ever owned by far on both counts.
The Spiderwick Chronicles, Wheelman, Sword and sandals, The lord of the rings conquest, Demon roots.
Just thought i would throw a few older maybe lesser thought of games out there...
Crashday, BloodBowl, Spore, Icewind dale, Aoe, Prison architect... idk maybe this helps somebody find their next game.
Thrillville off the rails... the first zoo tycoon... bookworm adventures... Command and conquer Renegade(fps believe it or not)
Starwars Republic commando, knights of the old republic
The list goes on I think the most intensive game i have ever played was Skyrim special edition or project zomboid... maybe farcry primal...
Castle miner z( if anybody still plays it is fun) Farcry blood dragon, postal 2, age of fear, Fate the traitors soul...
Battlefield bad company 2
The list keeps going and so does my phenom II and gtx 970
Now people should buy high end GPUs not for gaming anymore but for generating AI ART using offline PC Locally run NFSW removed STABLE DIFFUSION.
9th gen console ports are of course going to be more demanding, but that's no excuse for such poor optimization. If cards of the RX 6700/3060 Ti levels struggle to run them at 1080p/60fps, it was essentially released unfinished.
Based on the title it's a good thing I game on an i7 8700k and GTX 1060 6GB. 😂
I have a 3080 and I play DRG, (vampire) survivos-like games, Bloons TD6, and random indie games. I have no desire to play so-called "AAA" titles that are heavily unoptimized and trying to push some sort of milquetoast agenda. Not to mention they're mostly all uninspired rehashes of older games. The first and last game that I ever pre-ordered was Dark Souls 2. I loved DS1, but DS2 sucked so hard that I quickly learned my lesson and will never pre-order a game ever again. Too many people constantly complain about how bad modern gaming is, whilst continuously throwing money at the devs they supposedly hate (Activision/Blizzard especially). Self-control and voting with your wallet is how you win, also realising that you're not even having fun. Begs the question: why even play games?
You should include these games as well:
Left 4 Dead 2: INSANELY CHEAP in Steam and still has working dedicated servers, if you're lucky this game goes around a dollar on steam sales. Good for singleplayer or even multiplayer gameplay beloved by any generation due to its ease of access and straigt forward gameplay.
The original Call of Duty Modern Warfare Trilogy: the basics of every shooter in a modern setting that still have good quality graphics for most old hardware. The remastered original 1 and 2 can still run on low end gpus with 2gb of vram with sacrificed settings but still visually better a bit than the original.
Assassin's Creed Black Flag: Still one of the best AC stories that doesn't require you 100 hours of gameplay, but is still amazing enough to make you play 100 hours ( *sea shanties and ship travel intensifies* )
All in all, these games do not require grinding, time sacrifice, or high skill. Just plug and play, straightforward as it is unlike most games this year
I played Fallout 4 without stutter on a R7 240 1 gb ddr5, now i have a rx5600XT which weights around 2kg but i honestly don't know why modern games need so much firepower, i still play older games on integrated graphics and they are flawless while also looking good(Flatout and Knights of Honor come to mind).
There were always games that exceeded hardware capabilities. The most glaring example is Crysis, of course, but there's more. Have you ever tried to run Doom (yes, the original 1993) on its contemporary "recommended" hardware? Quake 1 boned old PCs right from behind. Unreal had unreal system requirements for maximum settings at decent framerates / resolutions. Doom 3 with shadows enabled and 16x antialiasing was a slideshow, Half-Life 2 and FarCry were exceptionally well optimized for weaker hardware on lower settings (played them on MX440 at the time), but on ultra+antialiasing it kicked most but the toppest of the top GPUs in the face. Oh, also let's not forget F.E.A.R.
The glaring difference between those games and piles of dung we so often get into our faces these days is that those were finished, whole products back then. All content was there, and it literally just worked unless you intentionally and insistently seek ways to glitch the hell out.
Today, studios want you to either buy a "foundation" and "build" on top of it with DLCs and lootboxes and other paid content to leech out all they can from your wallet, or throw essentially paid beta-tests / indev versions on the market, and sometimes just both at the same time. The majority of AAA devs no longer make "games", they make "product". The attitude is basically "if we hype it good, enough people will buy it anyway for us to make some profit, so why bother" or " this title has a huge fanbase, why don't we slap out a sequel or remaster with minimum effort, just use unreal engine, it has all the tech already built in". Entire franchises, once adored, roll down the hill towards the poop lake under this banner, and some has already ended down on the bottom.
I love when people call me out for being okay with RTX 2060, which I also got for 185 euros. And then I have to explain, that I'm not playing newer games anyway, since they're also not that interesting... and then they get more triggered, cause that's all that the people want nowadays, "all the latest and greatest". but what if I told u, that all the "latest" can also be your "worst".
So what do I mean by "all the latest, can also be your worst"?
Well, when I just got into PC gaming, all I wanted to do, is play gta san andreas, call of duty 2, and everything else that my pc could actually "handle" and they were quite old even back then.
And also I realized that even back then, people did not care about the hardware as much as nowadays. Cause it's like a new drug for them. Their brain keeps telling them that they need this, otherwise it won't handle the latest game (aka, unoptimized peace of crap, released on 2023.)
So in my opinion, don't just play all the "latest and greatest (cope)", but also play "the oldest but goldest".
I notice that people keep telling me as well, that your PC hardware is quite old, and you should upgrade...
and it's just sad to see the direction that we are going now. have we forgotten the true meaning for "PC Gaming", what was PC gaming anyways, back in 2013, 2014, 2015 for example? your hardware today, can probably handle all these games, that you wish you could play (back in those days). so what are you waiting for? take your GTX 1060, and play all the greatest games, from the good era, not like "2023 era", that people tend to stick for nowadays...
There are some RPG games that feel like Cyberpunk 2077, but I haven't encountered a cyberpunk game that feels like Cyberpunk 2077. I find it really hard to find a cyberpunk game that doesn't feel tedious and boring. Ignoring the bugs, CP2077 has both narrative and gameplay done greatly. I highly recommend picking it up as soon as you get the chance.
For Skyrim you can go up to 99fps without physics issues. Uncap the fps via config file (or Steam command evidently), then cap the fps with your Nvidia or AMD drivers to 98fps. Done. You should now be at 98-99 fps at all times.