What a writer!!! Sailor Pro Gear Fountain Pen Review

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  • Опубликовано: 24 дек 2024

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  • @richardc6932
    @richardc6932 3 года назад +7

    My 1911L in an H-M is finer than a Western fine but performs well . It will write as a true Western fine on the “back side” of my Rhodia 80 gsm but all of my pens appear broader than their designated nib size on the back side of papers. It appears that the back of a sheet is not as coated as the front. However after writing with my Sailor medium nibs I purchased a Pelikan M800 and a M805 “Blue Dunes in fine nibs. Slightly broader than the Sailors, smoother writing, better fit and weight in my hand and are difficult to put down since I received them. I am definitely impressed with both the Sailor and Pelikan brands that I have. Other than those, my E95S is a superb writer and easy on the pocketbook!

  • @jjavalon
    @jjavalon 3 года назад +13

    I love the sound of the feedback on paper! It’s music to me. Sailor nibs have that awesome quality, just like writing with a pencil. It gives my hand a complete control.

  • @geslinam9703
    @geslinam9703 3 года назад +7

    I have the Pro Gear Slim in HMF. I love it. By far the nicest pen I have. It has everything going for it for my tastes. It’s pretty, it’s light weight, it writes immediately every time and the nib is so smooth....very pleasurable writing experience. I can see why people wind up with so many of them.

  • @korax67
    @korax67 3 года назад +31

    Sailor pens have the most amazing nibs of all Japanese manufacturers, let alone European or USA ones.
    The only downside about them is their price. They are the best and they know it, so they hit up their prices.

    • @alexmood6407
      @alexmood6407 3 года назад +3

      I had fine, medium fine, medium and Naginata Togi.
      Naginata Togi was smoother all others are scratchy.
      I understand why Japanese would love Sailor nibs but it’s not really designed for cursive. I think people like them because they are different but I would strongly advise anyone who is new to fountain pens to get Sailor.

    • @awaken77
      @awaken77 Год назад +2

      price in Japan is OK. I buy directly from Japan

    • @alexandergomelsky
      @alexandergomelsky 8 месяцев назад

      @@awaken77 so do I.

  • @ichirofakename
    @ichirofakename 3 года назад +1

    I just got a Pro Gear Demo from a Japanese retailor for $179 + $20 to ship it to San Francisco. So it pays to shop around. Fabulous pen, easily an order of magnitude better than my other 60+ pens.

  • @josepmariaaguascaribot9239
    @josepmariaaguascaribot9239 3 года назад +1

    I bought a "Professional Gear" Slim Gold, Black and I love their 'feedback' mixed with smooth writing in my hand. That combined values makes it as the best nib that I have ever used.

  • @sajjadhusain4146
    @sajjadhusain4146 3 года назад +5

    I fully endorse this fine, short review of a truly splendid fountain pen. I have many Sailor pens, including a handful of the Pro Gear ones, which are my favorites. In fact, I have a pair of identical black w/chrome PGs as the one reviewed here. One of them is a H-M, the other a B. Absolutely dependable and superb writers. I detest posting pens (unless forced to do so with my few pocket pens) so despite the pen clearly feeling a bit short in my large-ish hands, I use my PGs unposted, as usual. But like the Aurora Optina, with which this pen shares basic design elements, size etc..the PG’s cap posts perfectly as it does on the Optima.
    Because all my PGs are of standard/regular size, I’ve had experience with mainly their stellar 21k nibs. The 14k is on the only Sailor 1911S pen I own.
    I love Aurora’s nibs across the size spectrum, and I’m not surprised that I love Sailor’s similarly pleasantly feedback-y nibs. Pilot and Platinum are terrific, no question. But if I were forced to choose only one Japanese pen in this price bracket, it will be the Sailor Pro Gear.

  • @andrewtongue7084
    @andrewtongue7084 2 года назад +2

    Undoubtedly, the Pro-Gear & 1911 range are unsurpassed for their build quality, Mick; in terms of the converters, I tend to strip mine down & lubricate every two fill-ups - but then I am of a persuasion that dictates, anything mechannical requires regular maintenance (& that's my proclivity) - never had a Sailor converter fail - & in the context of being 'green', converters/piston fillers are more eco-friendly; not all are convinced by such an ethos (or it's just personal preference). As to the writing performance, well, no quibbles there - superlative, with that feedback - very nice. Great review - thanks !

  • @kevinu.k.7042
    @kevinu.k.7042 3 года назад +2

    Yup, this is my favourite pen. Apart from the superb writing experience I also like it because it doesn't scream 'bling'.
    I've never used the converter - It sits in the drawer. I have stuck with refilling cartridges from a syringe because the converter only holds 0.6ml of ink. I've had dip pens hold as much! lol
    Great review - Thanks

  • @frankbruno7122
    @frankbruno7122 3 года назад +3

    Well done Mick.. as always.. I have 2 Pro Gear..one Sky in broad, and a new Midnight Sky in M-F.. love the Sailor pens..
    Frank in Colorado

    • @Lumpy_Peter
      @Lumpy_Peter 3 года назад

      I really like that midnight sky version. Still considering whether I am willing to pay that money for the pen I've never tried.

  • @kellieashman6908
    @kellieashman6908 3 года назад +1

    Thanks Michael, I have a Nagasawa Pen Style Exclusive Kobe Finial and Weathervane Cock Nib
    Limited Edition and love it. Sailor is the very definition of the rabbit hole!

  • @jjavalon
    @jjavalon 3 года назад +2

    P.S. I don’t love Sailor converters though, I use them with proprietary cartridges. Very good inks.

  • @gertahnstrom784
    @gertahnstrom784 3 года назад

    This is a nice review! I have a Sailor Pro Gear Slim in the Sky edition, which is a beautiful blue transparent finish. I picked it up second hand for a killer price, which makes me a lucky chap. :D
    The previous owner couldn't get it clean under the grip section, which is also transparent, which I guess contributed to the pen being sold.
    So when I got hold of it, I took it apart, cleaned it and put silicone grease in areas to make it less likely to get ink up between the chromed inner workings and the grip section.
    The converter felt very stiff and non-compliant, but thanks to a video from SBRE Brown, I dared to disassemble that too and silicone grease lubing up the right places there as well made it feel like the most luxurious converter I own! So I like the fact that the converter is threaded and made to be able to take apart with no force.
    When it comes to filling it is one of the least satisfying pens I have, it really is hard to get a full filling. But that isn't really a big deal for me, since I don't go through much ink anyway. And always having a bubble from when newly filled makes it a pen with a constant high "slosh factor". Making me sit and tip the pen back and forth to watch the ink slosh around in the converter.
    Mine is a 14 K nib which writes so nice! Like you say: Incredibly reliable and with a very nice grip on the paper without being scratchy. I feel like Bambi on ice sometimes when writing with my glass smooth Sheaffer or Parker pens, making my handwriting less precise. The Sailor nib among with my Pelikan M150 and Pelikan Pelikano P450 makes for my favourite nibs, in terms of writing feel.

  • @stimpunk
    @stimpunk 3 года назад +2

    Thanks for the review. Could you also elaborate what happened to your Sailor piston converters that you have misgivings about them?

  • @andresjimenez5032
    @andresjimenez5032 3 года назад

    The brand is exceptional and I corroborate all your comments, I particularly have several in my collection although all in 14kt

  • @tomalfrycoach
    @tomalfrycoach 3 года назад

    Very helpful review for me. I’ve tried this out in the store and loved it, but also wanted to do my research before I drop a few hundred dollars!

  • @tayterlik
    @tayterlik 3 года назад +1

    One of my recent additions to the collection has been a Wancher Yowanoaki = Sailor Pro Gear with mother of pearl decor, with a B nib (japanese B = western nice M). Great writer, not too wet but juicy; if only the converters were better... I tend to just refill the cartridge with a syringe.

  • @ravkesef
    @ravkesef 2 года назад

    I would love to see a demo of the Music Nib, s as I think it has more character than the other nibs

  • @shadowmihaiu
    @shadowmihaiu 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for this, people don't yalk much about Sailor pens these days. I have two Sailor pens: A Pro Gear Slim with 14k music nib, one of my favorite pens; and a Sailor Compass steel nib which is hands down the worst nib I ever had. So... mixed feelings about Sailor but I may get another from among their more loved models.

  • @geomancer6371
    @geomancer6371 2 года назад +1

    Is it a #6 nib or a #5 nib?

  • @siyuanxu3537
    @siyuanxu3537 3 года назад

    thanks for the review, this pen is on my list for a long time, I have a 1911L, it writes nice. But my problem is I can't find the SIlver Trim with Fine-Medium nib here so I need to wait a little bit longer.

  • @saikatbiswas8333
    @saikatbiswas8333 3 года назад +1

    How do you compare this pen with pilot custom 823 ( keeping apart the filling mechanism), if you please suggest me to pick any one between them?

    • @theoffstageme
      @theoffstageme  3 года назад +5

      Oh that is so tough. The 823 is about as close as I have found to my perfect fountain pen. The size is great. The nib is great. And if you dont mind the vac filler, it’s got an excellent ink capacity. The Sailor is a wonderfully reliable pen with a lovely nib, but much smaller and lighter. The Sailor converters are problematic. If I had to choose one, it would be the 823... but in saying that, the Sailor will not disappoint

    • @saikatbiswas8333
      @saikatbiswas8333 3 года назад

      Thanks a lot for the suggestion. One query is there, how reliable is the custom 823 vac filler regarding longevity and performance?

    • @theoffstageme
      @theoffstageme  3 года назад +2

      @@saikatbiswas8333 I’ve had mine for almost 3 years, and it’s seen a lot of use. I’ve never had a problem with it. Ive not heard of issues either. But, there are moving parts and rubber materials so it would be recommended to keep it well looked after

    • @saikatbiswas8333
      @saikatbiswas8333 3 года назад +2

      @@theoffstageme Thanks a lot for such immensely helpful suggestions. I will go for pilot custom 823 then, without any second thought.

    • @Richard_Barnes
      @Richard_Barnes 3 года назад +2

      I would think for your comparison, the 823 wins based on the ink capacity alone. Once filled you can write for a long time. A great pen and you won’t be disappointed! Enjoy it 🙂

  • @Richard_Barnes
    @Richard_Barnes 3 года назад

    For changing inks a lot I guess a converter is easier than flushing an ink cartridge out, or is it? I’d just use a cartridge and syringe fill it. Once done, swap it for another. Costs pence whereas the converters clearly don’t. Overall though, yeah they make superb pens and nibs.

  • @ergia4822
    @ergia4822 3 года назад

    Why is the Sailor Pro Gear Fountain Pen short uncapped? At 116mm, Is it made for people with small hands?.

  • @alexmood6407
    @alexmood6407 3 года назад +5

    I think Sailor pens have best ink flow of any pens. But I do find many of their nibs quite scratchy. I’m always baffled when people describe Sailor nibs as smooth.

    • @llion2806
      @llion2806 3 года назад +4

      I think scratchy isn't what I would describe it. More like feedback-y. To me it's like writing with a pencil. You kinda feel the line you are making while you are writing. It makes you feel very much in control of what you write. I have experienced smooth nibs that just slides through the paper and I didn't like it. Maybe it's because I draw a lot with pencils as a hobby and that's why I like Sailor nibs. It reminds me of that.

    • @alexmood6407
      @alexmood6407 3 года назад +1

      @@llion2806 the nib grind has several flat surfaces and is ground to work well for most common strokes in Kanji. I find them scratchy for cursive. You only need to turn the nib for couple degrees and it will transition from smooth to feedbacky. This is for me definition of scratchy nib.

    • @TwoMiceOnMyBookshelf
      @TwoMiceOnMyBookshelf 3 года назад +1

      @@alexmood6407 Scratchy is when a nib feels as if it catches during writing. Feedback is when you can feel the paper and the frictions between nibs and paper, but the nibs have no "snags" during writing.

    • @alexmood6407
      @alexmood6407 3 года назад

      @@TwoMiceOnMyBookshelf yes, definitely scratchy then. I like feedback on nibs. Pilot Elite fine nib is my favourite and it has consistent feedback.
      Sailor nib will transition from being smooth to feedbacky. Feedback that’s not consistent is scratchy. If you look the nib under micro lens you can sea it’s ground to have several flat surfaces. Great for Kanji but definitely not for cursive. I think many pen aficionados like them because they feel different to other nibs. After all there’s a limit to how many JoWo nibs one can get excited about

  • @TroyYouTube
    @TroyYouTube 3 года назад

    I have that one. A favourite

  • @inksplat
    @inksplat 3 года назад +3

    The Sailor Pro Gear size is probably my favorite size! Your pen is lovely. What problems have you had with the converters? I’ve heard many people mention problems, but I’ve been lucky, I guess. Mine have all been well-behaved so far!

    • @inksplat
      @inksplat 3 года назад

      @@jamesaritchie1 I’ve never heard specifics. Just that they’re terrible and they suck, but never any specifics as to how or why. I’ve also had problems with the con40, mostly that it won’t fill all the way with out a lot of nonsense, so I syringe fill them now!

    • @krishnachaitanyakalaga6239
      @krishnachaitanyakalaga6239 2 года назад

      Can we use con 40 in Sailor pens?

  • @latifnadzir
    @latifnadzir 3 года назад

    What benefit would buying a new converter do? What problem did it solve?

    • @theoffstageme
      @theoffstageme  3 года назад +2

      Two problems I have had with Sailor converters are leaking and a faulty piston mechanism. So the hope in buying a new converter is that you wont face those issues.

  • @freespirit995
    @freespirit995 3 года назад +2

    Thanks for a great, thorough review. For me Sailor pens are the only rivals to Pelikans, in terms of design and usability. They are superb writers and also come in a wonderful range of colours. Recently, I rather indulged in the now re-released "Cocktail" series which are a fantastic and fun line of pens.
    I would disagree with your assessment of the converters: I have not had your bad experiences. Also, the converters are very easy to clean because they can be dismantled- but in a bowl of water as otherwise tiny parts could escape down the sink hole of a basin...!
    The other wonderful Sailor pens are their Realo piston version (for pro gears and their large 1911 range). I am also a fan of the 1911 Large series, which have the same nib quality but are bigger- about the same size as Pelikan M800s.
    I don't have the black and silver version you reviewed and, after your review, I am now tempted to add one to my (embarssingly large) collection...

  • @thecommentor5519
    @thecommentor5519 3 года назад

    The pen in review, is it a Slim version or normal pro gear ?

  • @mekore
    @mekore 2 года назад

    this color combo is the hardest to get😅

  • @blaiseutube
    @blaiseutube 6 месяцев назад

    Pilot makes terrible converters also. Platinum makes a GREAT converter so the other guys have no excuse.

  • @anil4nature
    @anil4nature Год назад

    👌👌😍

  • @bluemountain.1957
    @bluemountain.1957 3 года назад +1

    £260 to £288( which is 360-400 dollars) if you live in rip-off UK. Buying from Japan I'm wary off with Customs and carrier charges post Brexit.

    • @aa-kh9ex
      @aa-kh9ex 2 года назад

      Yes. The Japanese manufacturers do this outside if Japan. Pelikan charge a lot more in the USA.

  • @georgecarroll6981
    @georgecarroll6981 3 года назад

    Poor quality converter is a deal breaker for me.

    • @ctsealteam6
      @ctsealteam6 3 года назад

      If you don't mind me asking, what's wrong to your converter ?
      I have 3 sailors and only 2 of those need converter. Used those for around 2 years, other than the relatively small capacity, none of those have any problem for me. In fact I kinda like that they can be disassemble for deeper cleaning.

    • @georgecarroll6981
      @georgecarroll6981 3 года назад +1

      @@ctsealteam6 I am looking to get a high quality pen. I will not spend that much money for a pen with a poor quality converter.

    • @ShlongMaster5000
      @ShlongMaster5000 4 месяца назад

      @@georgecarroll6981 Did you even read his comment?

  • @jd7713
    @jd7713 3 года назад +11

    Too much hype about this pen and the brand. I have several of these pens including their pro gear ones and I am not impressed at all. Too much feed back feed back grinds on my nerves when writing. Even when sent to a nib smith to smooth the nib out still not smooth enough to be enjoyable. Stay away.

    • @caomhan84
      @caomhan84 3 года назад +17

      I think that's unnecessarily harsh. The feedback is just the way that the pen writes. You prefer smoother nibs. Sailors don't have smooth as glass nibs. Feedback is what they offer. Remember, this is a Japanese brand and Japanese writing is different. It requires a higher degree of control. The quality control on Sailor nibs is also very high, so they shouldn't need to be sent to a nibmeister to correct whatever basic characteristics they are designed to have. I don't understand why you ended up with several if you didn't like any of the ones you've tried. If you want a smoother writing experience, there are innumerable brands out there that provide that. Pelikan comes to mind.

    • @jd7713
      @jd7713 3 года назад +6

      @@jamesaritchie1 Thank you for your extended reply. I am glad you enjoy your pens and wish you all the best. I am only speaking from my own experience and not trying to undermine yours. There are tens of stories on internet by people describing Sailor nibs as very feedbacky like witting with a fine sand paper. Nothing wrong with that if you like that type of feeling - check out Pen Habit’s review on his Sailor nib - In response to people’s misleading comments like Sailor nibs are very very smooth I forked out a lot of money purchasing a Sailor 1911 Realo. I didn’t like the nib and I thought I have been unlucky so I ordered a Pro Gear Realo and a 1911 Standard through Nibs.com and paid $50 extra to make it smoother. It is not smooth by my standard and I own more than 200 fountain pens of most brands. I am just trying to share my experience with people so they don’t fall in the same trap as mine by falling for “very smooth” misleading comments. I wish someone did that for me.
      Again, I am pleased for you and your experience. There is no need to insult others and rubbish theirs!

    • @jd7713
      @jd7713 3 года назад +4

      @@caomhan84 Thank you for your comment. I think you are right. Feedback is part of their design and character. Some like it some not. I learned that I dont like it the expensive way so I am warning others. I am very happy with my Pilot ones. I ended up owning a few Sailors because of misleading comments on have wonderfully smooth their nibs are. So I thought I may have been unlucky. My point is Describe the nib as it is - lot of Feed backs- and dont mislead your readers by saying they are very smooth because they are not. Some people like that feeling when they write and thats fine!

    • @TwoMiceOnMyBookshelf
      @TwoMiceOnMyBookshelf 3 года назад +8

      What you are trying to eliminate, is why many go for SAILOR. If you want smooth like glass, JoWo's steel nibs are sufficient.

    • @ichirofakename
      @ichirofakename 3 года назад +7

      Interesting. I just got a Pro Gear and on first use I was astounded at how smooth it was. Maybe we have different definitions of the word "smooth". Sorry for your bad experience - it's a drag to buy something expensive and then not like it.

  • @fakerfaker5396
    @fakerfaker5396 2 года назад

    Hello, thanks for review. I would like to ask you that what is your H-M progear item code? On the website it says 11-2036-420 for M. Is this code match with yours?

    • @fakerfaker5396
      @fakerfaker5396 2 года назад

      Ah sorry yours is silver trim, i just noticed it. So your pens item code must be 11-2037-420. Is it right?

  • @sillysod33
    @sillysod33 Год назад +1

    Clearly not a pen to use in a library….