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  • Опубликовано: 3 фев 2025

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  • @dirtyharry6297
    @dirtyharry6297 Месяц назад +81

    Georgian continue their fight for European future!
    Media must give more attention and support to people of Georgia!

    • @joyaku3078
      @joyaku3078 Месяц назад +5

      😂😂😃😆😆😉

    • @prakorngirodkunkid7877
      @prakorngirodkunkid7877 Месяц назад +2

      Georgian shall pro-Russia. Russia has HUGE amount of natural resources + very large area that easy to make a living. Georgian can't rival west Europe to make a living.

    • @giopa110888
      @giopa110888 Месяц назад

      "European future" is a lie only kids would believe, and that's why most people you see in streets are indeed kids. I'm telling you this as a Georgian myself.

    • @Samaa-os7hx
      @Samaa-os7hx Месяц назад +1

      They're actually Asian, in every way

    • @HelloWorld-dl4oy
      @HelloWorld-dl4oy Месяц назад +4

      @@Samaa-os7hx
      Georgia’s geography, culture, and history are far more complex than a simple label like ‘Asia’ or ‘Europe.’ First, geographically, the Caucasus region is a crossroads between the two continents, and Georgia has always been part of both worlds. However, historically, politically, and culturally, Georgia aligns more with Europe. From its adoption of Christianity in the 4th century to its aspirations for democracy, rule of law, and human rights-values core to the European Union-Georgia has long considered itself part of the European family.
      As for being Russia’s ally, that argument is deeply flawed. Georgia has faced repeated aggression from Russia, including the occupation of 20% of its territory. Suggesting Georgia should remain Russia’s ally is dismissive of its sovereignty and the will of its people, the vast majority of whom consistently support European integration. Joining the EU is about pursuing freedom, stability, and opportunities for its citizens, not about geography or outdated imperial alliances.
      Georgia is not defined by its neighbors or others’ opinions but by its own identity and the choices of its people. And its aspirations to join the EU reflect a clear vision for the future - one where sovereignty, democracy, and progress take precedence over authoritarian influence.

  • @nathanaramco6813
    @nathanaramco6813 Месяц назад +30

    I live in georgia and I can’t stand the EU and NATO and there are a lot of us that can see the truth about the EU and NATO

    • @alexandredatlanza5914
      @alexandredatlanza5914 Месяц назад +7

      I was in Georgia for months and what you say, I have heard it often. Not from everyone, but still from many people, so from my feelings after all this time, the election results seem fair to me, at least during the last election.
      But sincerely, politics will always be a spectacle.
      To divide, or to make the gullible believe that they need someone to guide them towards a better future.
      It is up to each person to build this better and to start for themselves and for the people directly around them.

    • @milana-mrga
      @milana-mrga Месяц назад

      how do you even know the election was fair

    • @ruudscheerens2401
      @ruudscheerens2401 Месяц назад +5

      Yes, history teaches us that Russia did so many good things to Georgia 😂. Open your eyes, read history. It's a choice between slavery or freedom. Try to convince me otherwise. Good luck!

    • @milana-mrga
      @milana-mrga Месяц назад

      why was my comment deleted about Georgian elections being rigged? There have been numerous, not to say countless accounts of irregularities, pressure, thin transparent sheets, etc.

    • @daltonwyant5154
      @daltonwyant5154 Месяц назад

      EU has too much socialist programs but you guys r very much held down by Russia. Best thing for u guys is to break away from Russia don't join NATO or EU and follow what Argentina is doing w liberating your economy and business men, your wealth will increase and u won't have to pick a side that both will keep your country from becoming rich. EU will give u loans but that won't help if you're not already making something people want internationally

  • @guramidgebuadze7691
    @guramidgebuadze7691 Месяц назад +70

    Our government has been leaning toward Russia from the beginning; they aim to establish an autocratic regime here. We need help, not just words.

    • @Samayil_2024
      @Samayil_2024 Месяц назад +1

      Lol, that's treason. Wait till this fizzles...

    • @matthaiosvlachos3526
      @matthaiosvlachos3526 Месяц назад +14

      Yeah but your people voted for georgian dream , thats democracy, the party gets most votes to govern

    • @LashaRides
      @LashaRides Месяц назад

      @@matthaiosvlachos3526 yeah rigged and manipulated elections mean democracy in your twisted brain, don't they? 😅

    • @myspace1876
      @myspace1876 Месяц назад +5

      You should ask for ATACMS and Storm shadow missiles. They are game changers

    • @nigelgarrett7970
      @nigelgarrett7970 Месяц назад +7

      ​@@matthaiosvlachos3526
      Georgian Dream
      Before the election: we are heading towards EU membership!
      After the election: only kidding!

  • @m_m_m_m_m_m_m_m_m_m_m
    @m_m_m_m_m_m_m_m_m_m_m Месяц назад +8

    Western NGOs aren't financing enough "protesters" in smaller cities 😂

  • @LashaRides
    @LashaRides Месяц назад +22

    Most of Georgian families outside the capital have members living in the EU sending money to support them.

    • @Memovox
      @Memovox Месяц назад

      And the EU supporters wants more of the lovely free Euro from the EU beneficiary countries.

    • @LashaRides
      @LashaRides Месяц назад +2

      @Memovox you can be less clueless if you want to 🙂 why don't you try?

    • @Memovox
      @Memovox Месяц назад

      @@LashaRides Why don't you show us the numbers that proves Georgia would be a contributor and not a beneficiary country if it was ever to become a EU member state?

    • @nigelgarrett7970
      @nigelgarrett7970 Месяц назад +4

      ​@@Memovox Perhaps look at how similar economies have performed after they have joined the EU?

    • @Memovox
      @Memovox Месяц назад

      @@nigelgarrett7970 They are still beneficiaries and their corruption index is appalling.
      Now stop deflecting and show us the numbers from Georgia.

  • @anibadagadze7428
    @anibadagadze7428 Месяц назад +3

    There is far more "big brother watch" on people in provinces. Every family has association with the government, will it be through state jobs or pensions. They don't want to lose this often only stable income. There is also a huge pressure on rural societies from those who are affiliated with government and threaten people if they participate in anti-govt protest. This is quite a complex issue in Georgia and needs further analyses.

  • @sogerc1
    @sogerc1 Месяц назад +15

    Like talking to the Kremlin has ever helped anyone.

    • @duncanfyfe485
      @duncanfyfe485 Месяц назад +1

      It brought about a series of nuclear/conventional arms reduction agreements in the 70s and 80s and 90s. Read some history!

    • @sogerc1
      @sogerc1 Месяц назад

      @@duncanfyfe485 Sure, but that only happened because the US was the stronger actor.

  • @GlennRobert71
    @GlennRobert71 Месяц назад +1

    Tamar Mirzashvili, you have the support of millions of hearts across Europe! Your bravery is such an inspiration! The future belongs to the youth of Georgia! Long live Georgia! Hugs from Norway!

  • @username7735
    @username7735 Месяц назад +8

    Gori is the government's stronghold; most of their titushki and riot police come from that town. I wonder why you didn't mention that? Or protests in Kutaisi and Batumi. Strange omissions of vital information from DW.

    • @Agudzeraa
      @Agudzeraa Месяц назад

      you guys really live in alternative universe and do not care what majority thinks (yes, majority of 53%)... calm your tits and behave during your protests, otherwise as one of the EPM said, "ones patience is not infinite"...

    • @username7735
      @username7735 Месяц назад

      @@Agudzeraa Oh yea, ambassadors are resigning left and right. the OG qocebi are renouncing GD but we live in a dream land right? lmao. bot

    • @Agudzeraa
      @Agudzeraa Месяц назад

      @@username7735 eeh jeezuus🤦🏻‍♂️there is no cure for you guys..

  • @kraiker9651
    @kraiker9651 Месяц назад +3

    Those protesters speak about fighting Russia more than Georgia. This obsession is not something that will lead to prosperity

  • @borystsolin
    @borystsolin Месяц назад +24

    Guy who supports government speak russian, ohwowreallyhowunexpected

    • @rafflesiaandfriends
      @rafflesiaandfriends Месяц назад +7

      Ex soviet union country???? It's not really surprising

    • @borystsolin
      @borystsolin Месяц назад +9

      @@rafflesiaandfriends as far as I'm aware in Georgia they very rarely speak russian, and most of youth doesn't even know it. But overall I just wanted to stress that knowing there's a translator and you could speak your national language, you choose russian instead - that shows your sympathies a lot, no?

    • @gaborrajnai6213
      @gaborrajnai6213 Месяц назад +1

      WTF cares...

    • @PolanskiJoe
      @PolanskiJoe Месяц назад

      @@borystsolin yeah, but this was an older guy. So as per your second comment, you dismiss your first own comment. lol

    • @username7735
      @username7735 Месяц назад +2

      @@PolanskiJoe Even in USSR Georgians didn't speak good Russian except some city elites. So someone speaking Russian as their main language as a Georgian is pretty much unheard of. The only ones that do are the ones that were raised in Russia.

  • @sandro1350
    @sandro1350 Месяц назад +1

    🇬🇪🇬🇪🇬🇪🇬🇪 გაუმარჯოს ჩემს სამშობლოს

    • @topweddingsa4059
      @topweddingsa4059 Месяц назад

      EU will soon send you the game-changers: ATACMS and Storm shadow missiles...

  • @JustAnNPC69
    @JustAnNPC69 Месяц назад +17

    If Georgians really wanted to go with Europe then they better do it quick while Russia is busy with Ukraine.

    • @yami_curr
      @yami_curr Месяц назад

      it's difficult to join to Europe when the only thing EU does is to be pretending that it's "deeply concerned" about X situation

  • @michaelwebber9036
    @michaelwebber9036 Месяц назад +2

    Well balanced report

  • @tajmajal4197
    @tajmajal4197 Месяц назад +8

    Talk with Putin? Dream on, just play your music, don't read the papers, don't think too much.

  • @wdp7128
    @wdp7128 Месяц назад +9

    Turkiye had applied for EU membership more than 3 decades ago.
    They are still waiting.
    😂😂😂😂

    • @close_all_tabs
      @close_all_tabs Месяц назад +18

      T: "I want to become a member of your club."
      EU: "Okay. Please fill out this formular."
      T: "Done. Here you go."
      EU: "Great. Next we have a small list of 35 simple tasks we need you to achieve. We will even help you with that."
      T: "Let's see. ... not gonna do that. Not gonna do that. Not that one either. Definitly not this one. ... Oh! Here we go. I achieved this one."
      EU: "Super!"
      T: "..."
      EU: *looks at watch
      T: "..."
      T: "What's taking you so long? I have been waiting for 8 years since I have done your demands. Why am I not EU yet?"
      EU: "You have done ONE of the tasks. You need to do all of them."
      T: "You don't understand. I want to be a member without doing anything. I just want the money."
      EU: "That's not how it wo...
      T: " I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR 30 YEARS !!!!"

    • @serbianwarcrimes
      @serbianwarcrimes Месяц назад +10

      Turkey has also not fulfilled the requirements to become an EU member...
      So there's that.

    • @gaborrajnai6213
      @gaborrajnai6213 Месяц назад

      Well, they arent increasing their chances by imprisoning the kurds, supporting Azeris and destabilizing the middle east...

    • @alexandredatlanza5914
      @alexandredatlanza5914 Месяц назад

      @@close_all_tabs But the EU already give billions of money for Turkey !

    • @close_all_tabs
      @close_all_tabs Месяц назад +1

      @@alexandredatlanza5914 That's the " We will even help you with that." part.

  • @urbansenicar81
    @urbansenicar81 Месяц назад

    It's not like we have countries waiting to enter in the very vicinity.

  • @close_all_tabs
    @close_all_tabs Месяц назад +2

    Okay. I need to ask about it. Does this "vili" mean anything in the Georgian language or why do so many Georgians have this as a suffix to their family name?

    • @mamatejko
      @mamatejko Месяц назад +4

      Shvili means child, it's like -son in English.

    • @close_all_tabs
      @close_all_tabs Месяц назад +7

      @@mamatejko ahhhh. So, more like Norse surenames? Eriksson, Gunnasson, Ivarsson...

    • @close_all_tabs
      @close_all_tabs Месяц назад +3

      @@mamatejko Thanks!

  • @aparajitasuman9727
    @aparajitasuman9727 Месяц назад +2

    All the best my fellow young people! Fight for a better future. One that does not involve the threat of Russia and fascists!

  • @daltonwyant5154
    @daltonwyant5154 Месяц назад +1

    Is Georgia even European?? Like culture wise? Ik stalin was Georgian

    • @lexbor3511
      @lexbor3511 Месяц назад +3

      Define "European culture".

  • @RuiPedroCovelo
    @RuiPedroCovelo Месяц назад +6

    In summary, let’s do whatever the Russians want us to do or else

    • @rafflesiaandfriends
      @rafflesiaandfriends Месяц назад

      Russia, America eg(nato) it's all the same.

    • @RuiPedroCovelo
      @RuiPedroCovelo Месяц назад +3

      @ did anyone mention America?

    • @close_all_tabs
      @close_all_tabs Месяц назад +5

      @@rafflesiaandfriends yeah. Tiny difference is ..
      EU: "If you turn away from me and lean toward Russia, I won't be mad. I would just be very, very disappointed in you."
      Russia: "If you turn away from me and lean toward the EU, I'm gonna turn you into Eastern Ukraine 2.0."

    • @gaborrajnai6213
      @gaborrajnai6213 Месяц назад

      Thats a pretty realistic assessment of the situtation. First they make sure they dont drag Europe into war, then they admitted.

  • @gaborrajnai6213
    @gaborrajnai6213 Месяц назад +1

    Isnt Gori the birthplace of comrade Stalin? Ive herared about a 30 meter tall bronze statue, wonder if its there.

    • @alexandredatlanza5914
      @alexandredatlanza5914 Месяц назад

      Yes, you can see the statue from the national highway.
      Stalin was very muscular when you look at the statue lol

  • @eriksandstrom6703
    @eriksandstrom6703 Месяц назад

    Georgian film "Keep Smiling". They said: Dedebe dedebe dedebe dedibi dedibi dedibi Babe Georgiiaa

  • @sandro1350
    @sandro1350 Месяц назад +1

    DW takes interviews in Russian with old Generation. Probably that says alot about old Generation

  • @rafflesiaandfriends
    @rafflesiaandfriends Месяц назад +1

    At least we have both sides of the people. Normally media just ignore opinions of people who don't follow the message they want to portray

    • @vergil7185
      @vergil7185 Месяц назад

      Funny that "one side" spoke the Russian language not Georgian.

    • @rafflesiaandfriends
      @rafflesiaandfriends Месяц назад +3

      @vergil7185 Georgia is a ex soviet country so i'm not surprised people speak both, also he might have used it to show his support towards Russia.

  • @willyjoerockhead
    @willyjoerockhead Месяц назад +2

    Is this near Atlanta?

  • @annwhiteclassicalballettra8418
    @annwhiteclassicalballettra8418 Месяц назад

    Why are people on the street don't speak Georgian but Russian? 🤔

    • @giopa110888
      @giopa110888 Месяц назад +4

      Reporter asks in Russian, that's why.

    • @georgeberadze17
      @georgeberadze17 Месяц назад +5

      Because the reporter doesn’t speak Georgian.

    • @justanape9149
      @justanape9149 Месяц назад +1

      The reporters ask questions in russian. There’s few foreigners who speak georgian.

  • @garyb5998
    @garyb5998 Месяц назад +1

    This Icon will be Remembered ❤ She is Mother Georgia 🇬🇪 💪 🇮🇪

  • @Samayil_2024
    @Samayil_2024 Месяц назад +1

    If it were any strong, they would atleast be somewhere near in the polls. This sound and fury is all optics.

  • @provetanimalhealth3367
    @provetanimalhealth3367 Месяц назад +4

    Difficult to gather support 😂
    Still doubt election 😂
    Democracy means Majority,we have the accept the majority 🙏

  • @rusudanmargiani895
    @rusudanmargiani895 Месяц назад

    1. You forgot to mention that almost 1/3 of the entire Georgian population lives in the capital city.
    2. There are up to 40 other cities where the protest emerged and in some of them significant amount of people took the streets, why do you need to focus to Gori and create this sense that the protests in capital are not supported by other cities ?

    • @duncanfyfe485
      @duncanfyfe485 Месяц назад

      Perhaps because so many Georgians don't support the protests?

  • @mariamimaka
    @mariamimaka Месяц назад

    what a shame DW, you are sending Russian speaking correspondent in Georgia !?!?!? young generation doesn't speak Russian mostly ... post soviet ones Yeas ! and the answers are correlated

  • @tvwatcher1883
    @tvwatcher1883 Месяц назад

    God Bless the Protesters!!!

  • @ondiekibosire6174
    @ondiekibosire6174 Месяц назад +1

    😅Why mobilise,,, it should be organic not staged

  • @htedhlaingoo4354
    @htedhlaingoo4354 Месяц назад

    Why they want to enter EU?Do not brjng problems to EU?Georgia is really far from EU region.Just solve your own problems with your own people.I think Russia will ask to be part of EU too at a later time.African countries will want to be in EU too.😂

  • @greenbike9475
    @greenbike9475 Месяц назад +1

    Georgia is EU, bring girls over 😂

  • @FrostInfusion
    @FrostInfusion Месяц назад +1

    Belarus 2, lost cause