@@RichardVirgosky Thank you for your response! If I were to get one, I'll see about making a video using the headset to test out a wide range of facial expressions! Do you have any avatar's you'd recommend using that have full facial capabilities? Thank you for your time, and have a lovely day!
I’m a little lost and cant find an answer to this anywhere, If i want light house tracking as well as face and eye tracking is this possible? If so what headset can i use since i am seeing that certain headsets wont work with lighthouse tracking Can i use the quest pro with any lighthouse tracking system? Please help!
Yes You can use Quest Pro/Pico 4 Pro with lighthouse, ofc for that You need to use OVR Space Calibration which is a software for merging Quest/Pico playspace with lighthouse. I'm using Pico 4 Pro, index controllers, vive trackers 3.0 and base stations 2.0 ;)
Hello so I’m debating on getting a headset very soon. I don’t mind being a htc Vive pro eye or a quest pro but I love the idea of accuracy with the htc vive pro eye but nowadays it s hard to find the vive facial tracker along with it. Would you need it as well for the quest pro? Let me know!
Im debating whether i should get pico 4 pro or wait…i want a really good upgrade that’s like the best on the market in terms of performance and resolution that comes with good face tracking…though im always worried if i buy pico 4 pro next month or year valve or some other big company will announce the vr headset i was waiting for….is there currently any news or rumors for new vr headsets?
true im about to pick up the face an eye tracker for the xr elite too prob gonna buy 2 of em just to sell he other on when ht eventually gets discontinued too lolz
@@RichardVirgosky Confirmed, way happy to find my quest 2, so gonna sell this headset for 3/4 of it's price, and then 1/2 if no one wants to get it. It's way too inconvenient for what I do in my working lifestyle, so Focus 3 is a no-go. Anything like quest 2 and face/eye tracking is okay with me in the books.
@@RichardVirgosky I think it can also be used as a generic IR camera or depth camera, is my guess. I might have to look into this... I have a leap motion I'm not using and my HTC Facial Tracker just died (´；ω；`)
ive been batteling with ghosts seemingly i just cant figure out the smartest move to make here. i want something comfortable that is steam native as i want index controllers and trackers to work seamlessly (ive been crossplatfrom for 6 years im sick and tired of it) but there seems to be no viable options that anyone recommends. if anyone here has a steamnative facetracking setup comparable to the quest pro's face tracking PLEASE PLEASE let me know what your setup is
i know this isnt abt the video but i have an avatar that lags me when i open my vrchat and i cant change the avatar bc i get like 4 frames a minute how can i fix this
In this case, while Your VRChat world is loading, hold menu button on both controllers at the same time (VRChat menu button, "B" if I'm not mistaken) and Your avatar should reset.
You should take a look at Pico 4 Pro, there's a video about it on my channel, it has both Eye and Face tracking. I also posted YT short about difference between Vive Facial tracker and Pico 4 Pro face tracking, so You can check that later too ;)
Software for what? Face tracking? It's the same software You use for Wireless/Wired VR Streaming, that depends on the headset, and they all need to work with VRCFT app, cuz there's no better way to provide FT information to VRChat ;)
which one of these headsets would be the best for just casual vrchat gameplay with eye tracking for the most affordable price? the varjo aero is out of stock, XR-3 doesnt have a listed price and is limited now, and VR-3 has a starting price of $4000 or so, but i also despise the HTC vive controllers, so i don't know what would work
Hi, do you know how to get the native face and hand tracking from the Pico 4 Pro to work via Virtual Desktop? I've found it hard to get advice on this as the Pico isn't a common headset used- last mention of it on Reddit said that it was unsupported by SteamVR and VD. Is this still true today?
Yes it'll work just fine with windows 11, do You need to have PC to set it up? What exactly? Headset itself? No, but You need PC for... PCVR... unless You wanna play standalone, in this case You don't need PC, but face tracking isn't supported by standalone VRC by default, You would need to do some magic to make it work with additional PC just for face tracking etc.
I'm pretty sure that I mentioned all possible eye/face trackers in the video and I also said that I'll keep the same list in the description. All You need to do is watch the video, nothing more.
Greetings from the project babble dev team! Thank you so much for testing our project! ^^
It's rocket science
You are a life saver idk how long ive looked for a comprehensive list of options like that for face and eye tracking!
I just bought the vive xr elite with eye tracking I don’t see many videos on this headset and the tracking
Yeah, it's kinda expensive, that's why there's not many videos about it, but I bet it's really good headset, hope You'll enjoy it! ❤️
I saw Richard lick a little mouse the other day, face tracking is worth it! 💯
UwU
Leaks have shown that valve might be working on a new face tracker (or so I have heard)
Source? I'm actually curious ^^
Source??
Something im wondering about the pico 4 face tracking, does it track eyebrows, or only eyes and below?
Awesome video btw, thank you for making this!
Eyes and eyebrows ;)
@@RichardVirgosky Thank you for your response! If I were to get one, I'll see about making a video using the headset to test out a wide range of facial expressions! Do you have any avatar's you'd recommend using that have full facial capabilities? Thank you for your time, and have a lovely day!
You can find multiple avatars with face tracking in avatar search world ^^
Richards back :D
I’m a little lost and cant find an answer to this anywhere, If i want light house tracking as well as face and eye tracking is this possible? If so what headset can i use since i am seeing that certain headsets wont work with lighthouse tracking Can i use the quest pro with any lighthouse tracking system? Please help!
Yes You can use Quest Pro/Pico 4 Pro with lighthouse, ofc for that You need to use OVR Space Calibration which is a software for merging Quest/Pico playspace with lighthouse. I'm using Pico 4 Pro, index controllers, vive trackers 3.0 and base stations 2.0 ;)
@@RichardVirgosky thank you!
Hello so I’m debating on getting a headset very soon. I don’t mind being a htc Vive pro eye or a quest pro but I love the idea of accuracy with the htc vive pro eye but nowadays it s hard to find the vive facial tracker along with it. Would you need it as well for the quest pro? Let me know!
As I mentioned in the video, quest pro don't need extra facial tracker, it has built-in both face and eye tracking ;)
thank you for being so informative, I dont see many videos showcasing these topics with this level of easability.
I'm really hoping Valve releases a new VR headset soon and that it has full face and eye tracking. unu
We're all waiting ^^
More to the point they make it goddam available GLOBALLY :/
Im debating whether i should get pico 4 pro or wait…i want a really good upgrade that’s like the best on the market in terms of performance and resolution that comes with good face tracking…though im always worried if i buy pico 4 pro next month or year valve or some other big company will announce the vr headset i was waiting for….is there currently any news or rumors for new vr headsets?
For now there's no rumors about any better headset than Pico 4 Pro/Quest Pro in similar price range.
@@RichardVirgosky the wait continues then...
@@RichardVirgosky I thought Pico 4 Pro is the same as Quest 3. Am I wrong?
@zauza25 not really, You should watch video about Pico 4 Pro ^^
Yeah i had the vive face tracker but when that was discontinued i sold that thing for 500 dollars on ebay lol worth it
Yeah... the price is crazy, already 5/6 times more than official price XD
true im about to pick up the face an eye tracker for the xr elite too
prob gonna buy 2 of em just to sell he other on when ht eventually gets discontinued too lolz
Not good idea, look at focus 3 as an example ^^
@@RichardVirgosky Confirmed, way happy to find my quest 2, so gonna sell this headset for 3/4 of it's price, and then 1/2 if no one wants to get it. It's way too inconvenient for what I do in my working lifestyle, so Focus 3 is a no-go. Anything like quest 2 and face/eye tracking is okay with me in the books.
good info- thanks :)
Hello! I have a question do project babble will work with quest 2?
Yes, but You need to use it with PC
Ive heard some good things about the leap motion with project babble
could you show or link how you set it up?
Leap motion? But how's that related, it's device for hands tracking
@@RichardVirgosky I think it can also be used as a generic IR camera or depth camera, is my guess.
I might have to look into this... I have a leap motion I'm not using and my HTC Facial Tracker just died (´；ω；`)
ive been batteling with ghosts seemingly i just cant figure out the smartest move to make here. i want something comfortable that is steam native as i want index controllers and trackers to work seamlessly (ive been crossplatfrom for 6 years im sick and tired of it) but there seems to be no viable options that anyone recommends. if anyone here has a steamnative facetracking setup comparable to the quest pro's face tracking PLEASE PLEASE let me know what your setup is
Forget, there's no next gen headset with lighthouse and eye tracking.
i know this isnt abt the video but i have an avatar that lags me when i open my vrchat and i cant change the avatar bc i get like 4 frames a minute how can i fix this
Go to vrchat website, log in using Your account, go to avatars section and click "reset to default avatar" ;)
@@RichardVirgosky Ive tried to log in but the email i have is not one you can use for vrchat i used my Oculus account to log in
In this case, while Your VRChat world is loading, hold menu button on both controllers at the same time (VRChat menu button, "B" if I'm not mistaken) and Your avatar should reset.
@@RichardVirgosky thank you so much
Vive pro eye why did they stop making the mouth tracker
There's no official reason, but I think they'll just release new model in the future ;)
@@RichardVirgoskyim looking for good facial tracking and mouth tracking you know any good head sets
You should take a look at Pico 4 Pro, there's a video about it on my channel, it has both Eye and Face tracking. I also posted YT short about difference between Vive Facial tracker and Pico 4 Pro face tracking, so You can check that later too ;)
Can you tell me about hair assets? Are they sold on Booth?
It's two assets combined and modified, basic hair and some ponytail with braids
What is the software that you use for your headset and does it work well with vrcft?
Software for what? Face tracking? It's the same software You use for Wireless/Wired VR Streaming, that depends on the headset, and they all need to work with VRCFT app, cuz there's no better way to provide FT information to VRChat ;)
which one of these headsets would be the best for just casual vrchat gameplay with eye tracking for the most affordable price?
the varjo aero is out of stock, XR-3 doesnt have a listed price and is limited now, and VR-3 has a starting price of $4000 or so, but i also despise the HTC vive controllers, so i don't know what would work
Pico 4 Pro or Quest Pro ^^
What is the name of this map?
After Glow
Hi, do you know how to get the native face and hand tracking from the Pico 4 Pro to work via Virtual Desktop? I've found it hard to get advice on this as the Pico isn't a common headset used- last mention of it on Reddit said that it was unsupported by SteamVR and VD. Is this still true today?
There's no way to use it with Virtual Desktop, You need to use Streaming Assistant.
@@RichardVirgosky Ah, that sucks, it's not as good, but I'll give it a shot, thank you for your reply!
Hey I have a question, I’m getting a pico 4 pro I have a windows 11 and will that work? And do I need a pc to set it all up?
Yes it'll work just fine with windows 11, do You need to have PC to set it up? What exactly? Headset itself? No, but You need PC for... PCVR... unless You wanna play standalone, in this case You don't need PC, but face tracking isn't supported by standalone VRC by default, You would need to do some magic to make it work with additional PC just for face tracking etc.
Wait so I need a PC to set up face tracking 😥
Yes
hey i got a question is any of them not have to use your phone or something else
Wdym? Phone for fave tracking? I explained it in the video, there's only one solution where You can use Your phone for that.
@@RichardVirgosky You can use a usb webcam
Yes
Does the first one you recommend?work with quest 2 on PC
Omg... watch the video, I explained what works with what
@@RichardVirgosky kinda rude, they were just asking. There's no info about specifically the quest 2 in your video.
I'm pretty sure that I mentioned all possible eye/face trackers in the video and I also said that I'll keep the same list in the description. All You need to do is watch the video, nothing more.
Chad