Excellent interview. Our brains are so undiscovered. I’m more excited about neuroscience advances and research than probably another other field of science
This is all super interesting. Aside from particular brain regions, we also know that "spiritual" or mystical experiences are mediated through 5-HT2A/C, which is one reason why psychedelic drugs commonly cause religious experiences and insights. It perhaps works the other way, as well: that religious practices strengthen pathways associated with mystical experiences and 5-HT2A/C receptor and transmitter function. So it might be safe to say that the mind definitely creates the brain. We also know that serotonin reuptake inhibitors can inhibit the effects of psychedelic drugs because of receptor occupancy, and we have anecdotal reports that when "spiritually advanced" gurus, yogis, holy people, etc. are given LSD and other psychedelics they often have no reaction to the drugs at all. Not that they experience effects from the drugs but are able to navigate them without appearing to be affected because of their allegedly advanced "spiritual" state, but that they literally experience no effect. The 5-HT receptors apparently are likewise already occupied, it would seem. Yoga itself, as well as psychedelic drugs, has effects on the "default mode network," the possible seat of the "me" experience. With that ego "me-ness" ameliorated, perhaps that can account for an increased sense of empathy, as with less "me-ness" the person logically is having a greater experience of the "other" being included in "self." This in fact might be a next necessary step in evolution of the species (as many have suspected since western culture first discovered psychedelics and some eastern spiritual ideas): to mitigate and possibly eliminate the false sense of "selfness" as separate from the "other" through practices such as yoga, meditation, and psychedelics, which can break down or restructure/rewire the default mode network and false sense of separate individuality constructed culturally and socially.
A relative of mine married a paranoid schizophrenic and one night this person put an axe through her head. She did not die but remained in a vegetative state for the next nineteen years until she eventually passed away, her parents would not give up hope that one day she would recover, against medical advice. How does this fit in with with the brain not being responsible for consciousness or personality, what was going on if anything in this girl's "mind"? Love to hear people's thoughts.
we've known for 10,000s of years that brain damage impacts cognition. whats not understood is if fat protein water electricity (the brain) even if it were infinite in size and infinite in combination should be responsible for any subjectivity which seems to be without any mass-energy properties. the ppl who have gone beyond folk introspection and gain cultivated perfect introspection assert that brain and the body in general only condition subjectivity but does not give rise to it, and this leads to all sort of unorthodox possibilities. eg. search thukdam for a small example of results of perfect introspection
think of like tv set that is tuned to a channel. Brain is the TV, channel is the personality/consciousness. If the set is broken you get distorted or no signal to interface with this 4d reality. Consciousness pervades our 4d reality.
The mind when it see's the valley's in your own hands or the patented prints on each finger. Each one linking to information outside of the body but still a function of the mind. Can formations of hand mantras, even outside of traditional practices, still have profound affects on the mind in relation to the world around us?
when loss of consciousness in human brain, is it possible that the physical brain is being blocked from connecting to or experiencing a consciousness / mind that is already and always there? rather than brain producing the mind / consciousness, it experiences that mind / consciousness until blocked?
I believe the soul is an electron. We have many electrons\souls, but we feel as one individual and not as many, because electrons are able to union to one electric circle. And maybe this is the reason why quantum state is affected by consciousness, just like your thought can create new synapses in your brain, our thoughts are able to affects electrons. Which one of these electrons are each one of us really is? maybe the wave function test is better substitute to flat heart to determine if one is really dead or not.
@@deanodebo You conflating the name of the thing with the reality of the thing. The brain is real that is an irrefutable fact. You can call the brain anything you want it will still function the same way. Consciousness is human concept that encapsulate what the brain does. If I say bring me electricity that can be accomplished. If I say bring me consciousness no one in principle can bring me consciousness.
The guest makes a very weak argument at 2:50 : that neuroscientists have had enough time to figure out how the brain gives rise to the mind, and since they haven't yet, this implies it doesn't. Neuroscience is still in its infancy, hindered by crude tools, ethical constraints on experiments, and the difficulty of understanding intangibles. It seems arrogant to assert that neuroscientists have had enough time.
i also don't find that argument made by the guest convincing. however i would question the assumption by neuroscientists and many others that the brain does give rise to consciousness. even if i would treat that as an intelligible proposition, i don't find the arguments at all convincing.
its his opinion that the hard problem will continue to not be touched. then he covers the ontological fact that there is complete absence of evidence for the claim which the majority of neuroscientists etc make
@@highvalence7649 : It's not an assumption by neuroscientists. It's a theory, based on some evidence as described by the guest… the effects on consciousness due to stimulation of neurons, brain lesions, etc. I think no one competent would assert it's been proved or falsified.
@@backwardthoughts1022 : The ontological "fact" that there's no evidence? The guest described some evidence (reproducible correlations between brain activity and conscious experience) and then said it's a matter of belief either way -- not fact -- and he chooses to believe it's false.
Sufficient unto thee and thy resurrection is thy Creator. Wherefore, in thy soul thou shalt abjure all Gods and Lords and Saviors. Neither shalt thou try to exalt His name by adding thereunto any name in the shape and figure of man, nor by any one of woman born.
What if… Inflammation in the brain “Quells” the Voltage/Pressure in the brain matter, causing Phase Transitions, from higher awareness via Higher voltaged Structured Water based on Exclusion Zones or, bulk water, bulk water is neutral… which enables inflammation to appear and blocks or reduces Oligondendrocytes from clean signals, which lower Voltage and awareness by water phase transitioning in the brain… Sono-Lumin-Essence… Sound + Light= Essence… Quantum Implosio Vortex Science… PS… 528 Hz x 6= 3168 (Half of my Implosive Electric Vortex Circuit… I have “All” of the numbers… Plus, that his number is a fractal of New Jerusalem, 31680… Doesn’t matter to me, I work for “THE KING,” No Matter What! Anyhow, that’s also a Quantum Anagram of 369… It is… I can make “EVERYTHING” in this Universe, All Dimensions… My Numbers “Make” Pascals Triangle… This makes me “The Wealthiest Man In The World”… How can you top this? Plus my Question Ion Thruster… 100% Victory… (-) Masculine Vacuum Energy Dominion For ETERNALNESS… It can be “No Other Way”… My numbers and Geometry are perfect… 100% Quantum… Separate A Water Molecule, First Principle Photosynthesis…
Meaning “Mind” gets Distorted from Harmonic Consonance into a state of “Dissonance”… Cognitive Dissonance, thus- this is why everyone is stuck in the brain matter, rather than Consciousness/Mind/CHARGE… Neutral= no charge… CHARGE= “CHECKMATE”…! Life Wins Every Time…
When they figure out how to do that, it won't be used to make people good citizens. It will be used to make nearly everyone on Earth into compliant slaves. We should assume there's already a covert race to be the first to discover how to do this and to weaponize the discovery, because failure to win the race means becoming slaves instead of masters.
No single part of a car can drive. Thus, the hard problem of car driving is how driving comes into the car. It appears that specific functions in the car seem to contribute (says the stupid car mechanic) but this is no proof at all that driving is *produced* by the car; rather, the car only receives driving from outside (if it is in the respective state). How could something like matter ever *produce* something like DRIVING (which, highly abstractly, is changing location per se)??? I think the mystery of car driving will never be solved by science; it is a highly spiritual mystery which is obvious to every well-educated philosopher and meditator.
The current understanding of of space, gravity, mass,… is incorrect (basically wrong) entanglement dazzles them because the current understanding of space and time is wrong, not because it’s a miracle!
I suspect it's Doraiswamy who has made the mistake. Where's this spirit that has been talked about for millennia? If the brain is a receiver for 'cosmic consciousness' where is the signal?
French singer Mélanie Georgiades who suffered 5 years of depression and mental health problems, she was hospitalized for two months and was kept on medications, but all gone in five minutes of Islamic prayer, it was a miracle in the broad day light. Here is another video posted by an American woman, who suffered lifelong depression and darkness at heart she felt, to get rid of it, she studied all religions you can think of, but nothing fit right, nothing feel right, until she came to Islam, the lifelong depression is gone, it was a miracle in the broad day light Video titled posted by an American woman is: "zatla1985 sunny convert to islam after she watching the first 5 episodes from the inspiration serie"
For French girl video title on YT is: "Successful Network Marketing French Rap Star converted to Islam" There are hundreds of video like these posted on YT.
When I hear people took their own life due to depression, I feel bad for them as someone could easily have helped them with Islam to break free from depression. A Toronto Jewish guy broke free from depression by converting to Islam and there is another Toronto girl posted identical story.
And whoso saith: CALL THOU ON THIS SAVIOR, OR CALL THOU ON THAT SAVIOR, AND THY SINS SHALL BE FORGIVEN THEE; AND, IN THE HOUR OF THY DEATH, BECAUSE THOU HAST SO CALLED ON HIM, THOU SHALT ASCEND INTO A HEAVENLY PARADISE, the same is a falsifier of my kingdoms and a blasphemer against the Creator. And whoso saith: COME THOU BEFORE THE CHURCH, AND BEFORE THE PRIEST, AND MAKE PRAYERS AND CONFESSIONS, AND THOU SHALT BE ABSOLVED AND FORGIVEN THY SINS, the same are falsifiers of my kingdoms and blasphemers against the Creator.
It is the will and wish of thy God, that all men become constitutionally capable of receiving and comprehending the highest light, and that they shall no longer depend upon any priest, church, oracle or holy book, or upon consulting the spirits.
You can put a helmet on your head that stimulates the brain giving you a sort of spiritual experience, or even do yoga, . There is no context, no meaning, no reward, it is not much different than getting high on drugs. In real life you might struggle, going true a identity crises and end up getting some insight. That is how you get context, meaning and reward.
FINALLY a thinker that’s both credible, and not a knee jerk sceptic.
dont sorry the church of scientism will excommunicate him in short order
Another excellent interview!
Excellent interview. Our brains are so undiscovered. I’m more excited about neuroscience advances and research than probably another other field of science
"... Spirituality comes from the mind, not the brain."
This is all super interesting. Aside from particular brain regions, we also know that "spiritual" or mystical experiences are mediated through 5-HT2A/C, which is one reason why psychedelic drugs commonly cause religious experiences and insights. It perhaps works the other way, as well: that religious practices strengthen pathways associated with mystical experiences and 5-HT2A/C receptor and transmitter function. So it might be safe to say that the mind definitely creates the brain.
We also know that serotonin reuptake inhibitors can inhibit the effects of psychedelic drugs because of receptor occupancy, and we have anecdotal reports that when "spiritually advanced" gurus, yogis, holy people, etc. are given LSD and other psychedelics they often have no reaction to the drugs at all. Not that they experience effects from the drugs but are able to navigate them without appearing to be affected because of their allegedly advanced "spiritual" state, but that they literally experience no effect. The 5-HT receptors apparently are likewise already occupied, it would seem.
Yoga itself, as well as psychedelic drugs, has effects on the "default mode network," the possible seat of the "me" experience. With that ego "me-ness" ameliorated, perhaps that can account for an increased sense of empathy, as with less "me-ness" the person logically is having a greater experience of the "other" being included in "self." This in fact might be a next necessary step in evolution of the species (as many have suspected since western culture first discovered psychedelics and some eastern spiritual ideas): to mitigate and possibly eliminate the false sense of "selfness" as separate from the "other" through practices such as yoga, meditation, and psychedelics, which can break down or restructure/rewire the default mode network and false sense of separate individuality constructed culturally and socially.
A relative of mine married a paranoid schizophrenic and one night this person put an axe through her head. She did not die but remained in a vegetative state for the next nineteen years until she eventually passed away, her parents would not give up hope that one day she would recover, against medical advice. How does this fit in with with the brain not being responsible for consciousness or personality, what was going on if anything in this girl's "mind"? Love to hear people's thoughts.
we've known for 10,000s of years that brain damage impacts cognition.
whats not understood is if fat protein water electricity (the brain) even if it were infinite in size and infinite in combination should be responsible for any subjectivity which seems to be without any mass-energy properties.
the ppl who have gone beyond folk introspection and gain cultivated perfect introspection assert that brain and the body in general only condition subjectivity but does not give rise to it, and this leads to all sort of unorthodox possibilities. eg. search thukdam for a small example of results of perfect introspection
think of like tv set that is tuned to a channel. Brain is the TV, channel is the personality/consciousness. If the set is broken you get distorted or no signal to interface with this 4d reality. Consciousness pervades our 4d reality.
Check out Michael egors video : the case against materialism.
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The mind when it see's the valley's in your own hands or the patented prints on each finger. Each one linking to information outside of the body but still a function of the mind. Can formations of hand mantras, even outside of traditional practices, still have profound affects on the mind in relation to the world around us?
when loss of consciousness in human brain, is it possible that the physical brain is being blocked from connecting to or experiencing a consciousness / mind that is already and always there? rather than brain producing the mind / consciousness, it experiences that mind / consciousness until blocked?
I believe the soul is an electron.
We have many electrons\souls, but we feel as one individual and not as many, because electrons are able to union to one electric circle.
And maybe this is the reason why quantum state is affected by consciousness, just like your thought can create new synapses in your brain, our thoughts are able to affects electrons.
Which one of these electrons are each one of us really is?
maybe the wave function test is better substitute to flat heart to determine if one is really dead or not.
Brain is the manifestation of the mind
That is obviously not true.
@@kos-mos1127 why not?
@@kos-mos1127
Brain is a concept created by consciousness. This is logically factual, irrefutable.
@@deanodebo You conflating the name of the thing with the reality of the thing. The brain is real that is an irrefutable fact. You can call the brain anything you want it will still function the same way. Consciousness is human concept that encapsulate what the brain does. If I say bring me electricity that can be accomplished. If I say bring me consciousness no one in principle can bring me consciousness.
@@kos-mos1127
Have you confirmed with certainty that you have a brain?
If so, how?
What does the gut-brain do?
Second best? Robert's joke went over my head.
I thought he said I second that
@@quantumkath Oh maybe
Thought I heard second best too.
@@LenandlarSingh1979 hmm. What would have been his first best?
Very very limitless
Brains, brains, brains, and more brains,
stick to the subject,
Consciousness and Spirituality.
The guest makes a very weak argument at 2:50 : that neuroscientists have had enough time to figure out how the brain gives rise to the mind, and since they haven't yet, this implies it doesn't. Neuroscience is still in its infancy, hindered by crude tools, ethical constraints on experiments, and the difficulty of understanding intangibles. It seems arrogant to assert that neuroscientists have had enough time.
i also don't find that argument made by the guest convincing. however i would question the assumption by neuroscientists and many others that the brain does give rise to consciousness. even if i would treat that as an intelligible proposition, i don't find the arguments at all convincing.
its his opinion that the hard problem will continue to not be touched. then he covers the ontological fact that there is complete absence of evidence for the claim which the majority of neuroscientists etc make
@@highvalence7649 : It's not an assumption by neuroscientists. It's a theory, based on some evidence as described by the guest… the effects on consciousness due to stimulation of neurons, brain lesions, etc. I think no one competent would assert it's been proved or falsified.
@@backwardthoughts1022 : The ontological "fact" that there's no evidence? The guest described some evidence (reproducible correlations between brain activity and conscious experience) and then said it's a matter of belief either way -- not fact -- and he chooses to believe it's false.
@@brothermine2292 correlation has zero empirical evidence that it either produces or is equivalent to any given mental state
Sufficient unto thee and thy resurrection is thy Creator. Wherefore, in thy soul thou shalt abjure all Gods and Lords and Saviors.
Neither shalt thou try to exalt His name by adding thereunto any name in the shape and figure of man, nor by any one of woman born.
What if… Inflammation in the brain “Quells” the Voltage/Pressure in the brain matter, causing Phase Transitions, from higher awareness via Higher voltaged Structured Water based on Exclusion Zones or, bulk water, bulk water is neutral… which enables inflammation to appear and blocks or reduces Oligondendrocytes from clean signals, which lower Voltage and awareness by water phase transitioning in the brain… Sono-Lumin-Essence…
Sound + Light= Essence…
Quantum Implosio Vortex Science… PS… 528 Hz x 6= 3168 (Half of my Implosive Electric Vortex Circuit… I have “All” of the numbers… Plus, that his number is a fractal of New Jerusalem, 31680…
Doesn’t matter to me, I work for “THE KING,” No Matter What!
Anyhow, that’s also a Quantum Anagram of 369… It is… I can make “EVERYTHING” in this Universe, All Dimensions… My Numbers “Make” Pascals Triangle…
This makes me “The Wealthiest Man In The World”…
How can you top this? Plus my Question Ion Thruster…
100% Victory…
(-) Masculine Vacuum Energy Dominion For ETERNALNESS…
It can be “No Other Way”…
My numbers and Geometry are perfect…
100% Quantum…
Separate A Water Molecule, First Principle Photosynthesis…
Meaning “Mind” gets Distorted from Harmonic Consonance into a state of “Dissonance”…
Cognitive Dissonance, thus- this is why everyone is stuck in the brain matter, rather than Consciousness/Mind/CHARGE…
Neutral= no charge… CHARGE= “CHECKMATE”…!
Life Wins Every Time…
The phase changes, which means higher or lower Voltage/Pressure is what Metabolizes frequencies into “Emotions”… I’m 100% right…
You put your crazy notes in a video comment about consciousness, ironic.
I know a yoga teacher who's got a nasty temper so, evidently, it's not a done deal that yoga equals any form of social enlightenment!
The limbic system is a kind of processing unit (more complicated than that but this is just to an approximation or approach )
"...and if we find out what we can do with the brain to make you do what we think is being a good citizen, well.." - Mad Scientist probably
When they figure out how to do that, it won't be used to make people good citizens. It will be used to make nearly everyone on Earth into compliant slaves. We should assume there's already a covert race to be the first to discover how to do this and to weaponize the discovery, because failure to win the race means becoming slaves instead of masters.
Religion and science don't mix
No single part of a car can drive. Thus, the hard problem of car driving is how driving comes into the car. It appears that specific functions in the car seem to contribute (says the stupid car mechanic) but this is no proof at all that driving is *produced* by the car; rather, the car only receives driving from outside (if it is in the respective state). How could something like matter ever *produce* something like DRIVING (which, highly abstractly, is changing location per se)??? I think the mystery of car driving will never be solved by science; it is a highly spiritual mystery which is obvious to every well-educated philosopher and meditator.
The current understanding of of space, gravity, mass,… is incorrect (basically wrong)
entanglement dazzles them because the current understanding of space and time is wrong, not because it’s a miracle!
Humans are independent units, they are connected and even communicate unknowingly but they are independent units, their hallucinations does not exist.
I suspect it's Doraiswamy who has made the mistake. Where's this spirit that has been talked about for millennia? If the brain is a receiver for 'cosmic consciousness' where is the signal?
need to go beyond folk introspection and learn to examine your object of investigation properly, as science does when investigating anything else
Spurtuality.
🥴🙄😏😂
I've seen brains without consciousness. I've never seen consciousness without a brain.
And seeing is the product of the mind, in which no one can see the mind outside of its own idea of what it could look like.
literally there are ppl missing 98%+ of the brain and have consciousness. there is a perfectly fine lady in germany with 120iq missing half a brain.
I've seen electronic devices without signal. I've never seen signal without an electronic device.
Have you seen your brain?
@@deanodebo except for, you know, the whole category error thing, namely that subjectivity empirically lacks all mass-energy properties. no biggy.
the irrational thief apes have complete misunderstanding, physics isn’t necessarily solid like their boneheads, it’s far more complicated than that.
French singer Mélanie Georgiades who suffered 5 years of depression and mental health problems, she was hospitalized for two months and was kept on medications, but all gone in five minutes of Islamic prayer, it was a miracle in the broad day light.
Here is another video posted by an American woman, who suffered lifelong depression and darkness at heart she felt, to get rid of it, she studied all religions you can think of, but nothing fit right, nothing feel right, until she came to Islam, the lifelong depression is gone, it was a miracle in the broad day light Video titled posted by an American woman is: "zatla1985 sunny convert to islam after she watching the first 5 episodes from the inspiration serie"
For French girl video title on YT is: "Successful Network Marketing French Rap Star converted to Islam"
There are hundreds of video like these posted on YT.
When I hear people took their own life due to depression, I feel bad for them as someone could easily have helped them with Islam to break free from depression.
A Toronto Jewish guy broke free from depression by converting to Islam and there is another Toronto girl posted identical story.
And whoso saith: CALL THOU ON THIS SAVIOR, OR CALL THOU ON THAT SAVIOR, AND THY SINS SHALL BE FORGIVEN THEE; AND, IN THE HOUR OF THY DEATH, BECAUSE THOU HAST SO CALLED ON HIM, THOU SHALT ASCEND INTO A HEAVENLY PARADISE, the same is a falsifier of my kingdoms and a blasphemer against the Creator.
And whoso saith: COME THOU BEFORE THE CHURCH, AND BEFORE THE PRIEST, AND MAKE PRAYERS AND CONFESSIONS, AND THOU SHALT BE ABSOLVED AND FORGIVEN THY SINS, the same are falsifiers of my kingdoms and blasphemers against the Creator.
It is the will and wish of thy God, that all men become constitutionally capable of receiving and comprehending the highest light, and that they shall no longer depend upon any priest, church, oracle or holy book, or upon consulting the spirits.
You can put a helmet on your head that stimulates the brain giving you a sort of spiritual experience, or even do yoga, . There is no context, no meaning, no reward, it is not much different than getting high on drugs. In real life you might struggle, going true a identity crises and end up getting some insight. That is how you get context, meaning and reward.