What is consciousness?
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- Understanding what consciousness is, and why and how it evolved, is perhaps the greatest mystery known to science.
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The comments are so intelligent that I STOPPED watching the video and started reading many comments before returning to the video. Thank you, guys.
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No they are not. At least most of the comments I read are just stating vague hypothesis without any kind of reference to proof; ideas that somehow sound nice to them but actually are just pseudoscientific 'attractive' stuff. If you are going to talk about metaphysical ideas, don't state them aa a fact.
Merveil Meok those philosophical comments are retarded. a bunch of cunts talking about some bullshit no one knows. these philosophers need to get a life. they are not scientist. they're just losers
I feel the exact opposite way. Frankly, it's further reducing my faith in humanity. Nobody knows the answer, and nobody here is going to figure it out with a very 'clever' comment.
@@leoriele This comment section, however, is surprisingly clever.
But I agree that 99% of the comment sections under scientific/philosophical videos are pseudoscience/unjustified nonsense.
"Science cannot solve the ultimate mystery of nature [consciousness], for in the final analysis we ourselves are part of the mystery we are trying to solve." - Max Planck
We r tryin tho, check quantum consciousnes by penrose-hameroff. Its quite the latest theory of consciousnes in term of quantum mechanic
@Vikarn RAJORA [11M2] yes I know, its not Planck. Its Roger penrose and Stuart hameroff, chek it off
I am not sure consciousness exists. It's just a state with heightened sensory information, in constrast to for eg sleep or in a coma. They say consciousness resides in the brain. Again, I am not sure. Let's say you lost all your body totally, only your brain is left in a container, and we manage to keep it alive by giving it oxygen and the nutrients that it needs, but no other inputs since there is no body, are you still conscious? I would think not.
@dadt - The brain could still be dreaming or hallucinating, and those are both conscious states insofar as they are experienced.
@dadt - It could also be thinking or remembering.
All animals have and experience consciousness, in the sense that when they perceive a threat or danger to their existence, they avoid it or take measures to protect themselves, and when they do not, they take measures to procreate. But the starkest difference, and maybe the biggest and ONLY difference between man and an animal is that man has the ability to turn the mind's eye inwards and self-reflect, to ask deep questions about the meaning and origins of not only his existence, but existence of the universe itself.
Je me demande si les animaux ni songent pas ...
Many animals have the ability to self - reflect but prefer to spend their time eating vegetation.They don't as a result end up anxious, depressed etc like humans. She we start eating grass as an antidote?
@@brianstockwell4069maybe we should try smoking it
this is not the consciousness that we’re discussing. This goes as the easy problem of consciousness, how an animal detects a threat and how they act upon it etc.. This can be explained by brain and sensory functions. The hard problem is why (in human’s case) we have awareness of such things, you have an experience of what is going on. Idk if you get what i mean
It seems highly unlikely to me that humans would develop consciousness while all other animals don't have it. I think it's more likely that consciousness follows a spectrum and is simply related to awareness of the outside world and of how it changes.
I agree
Humans are not the only conscience beings......animals are conscience as well maybe not as high as ours or maybe or maybe higher
Intelligence may well be proportional to conscious awareness complexity.
I find it highly unlikely that animals don't have consciousness. What they don't have is an experience of consciousness that matches our own. That presupposes that our interpretation of reality is the "right" one, or, the only "right" one. In fact, our senses are only aware of an infinitesimal aspect of our own environment. How can we measure 1/10 of 1% of a thing and then claim that it is the entire thing?
Animals do have it ?? A better one possibly
Best analogy for consciousness that I've heard is that it is like a TV set. We see a monitor showing sounds, colors, images, emitting senses that we can perceive. However if we tried to take the TV apart to see where the images are coming from, all that we're left with is bits and pieces, when really the images are coming from the radio waves being transmitted through the antennas.
Perhaps this is a spiritual outlook on consciousness, but as my friend Mukesh formerly said, it's food for thought.
So, you would say consciousness is like the product of all the mechanical workings of a TV set, the outcome is colour picture and sound. But the inner workings are all man made mechanics. So you are saying consciousness IS a product of the brain ( sorry if I sound rude I don't mean to I'm trying to understand your argument)
The way humans are trying to make other realities with VR, 3D holograms/film/TV is making another reality, when we dream it's another reality. Consciousness is being aware and responding to a situation, so being able to build a reality that one can be conscious in is one step in being able to understand life consciousness. !?
leela I think he’s more saying that consciousness is filtered through the brain but originates from outside it.
But now, you have dived into deepee waters. You are no longer trying to define consciousness but the origin of consciousness. If consciousness evolved then the origin of consciousness would be the origin of life.
BINGO!
Unfortunately it seems that many if not all in the field of consciousness seem dead set on ignoring all evidence that consciousness exists outside/beyond the brain.
However many recent medical studies into NDEs are showing very conclusive evidence that it does - that the brain is merely a receiver/filter for helping our consciousness sense, perceive and make sense of the 3D realm the brain resides in. Your analogy is excellent.
Trying to understand consciousness is basically the brain trying to understand itself. It's pretty amusing if you think about it.
I'd go further and say it's the universe trying to understand itself
yet necessary for growth and evolving
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Sentience isn't all that amusing. It's paradoxes are though.
Claude Alpha i'd say it's God's conscious creation trying to understand itself
My neurologist and I were talking about how the brain works and all of its inner functions. She said that science knows a lot about the brain. I asked her, "Do you think we will ever figure out how the brain works completely?" She said, " I don't think we were ever meant to." Profound statement and absolutely true. The brain is a mystery. I don't think that science will ever completely figure it out. Besides that, when science learns something, something else pops up. The brain is mysterious and beautiful. It is us. We are looking out at the world through a set of peripherals. Who we really are is encased in a dark, protective, skull.
Maybe a super AI will be able to figure it out in the future, somehow. But specifically when it comes to the hard problem of consciousness, I just have no idea how it's possible to figure that out. Like why is there an experience in the first place? How does consciousness arise? Clearly the brain's processes have something to do with it, but I wonder if we will ever be able to get a clear and precise answer to that question.
to know how the brain works in detail we first would need to know every aspect of quantum physics, and thats something that we still can't clearly grasp
Mabye it's not science that needs to figure it out sometimes just sitting and thinking will do it for you
We are not brain, actually
Well i hope that wont be true. Like man just imagining a world where we understand the human brain our first babyyyy steps in understanding it all is ultimately mind-boggling.
There is no way that other animals do not have consciousness. They may not be as developed as ours, but they definitely have consciousness.
I know that from the ducks that follow me around where I live and try to get in my house.
all mammals have almost the same limbic system, consisting of key parts that deal with emotions
@@RunPJsExcellent answer.
The consciousness is same in all living things.
Last time, I tried to figure out this question.I felt I was going crazy.
Mario benitez me tooo
the closest answer is awerness based on knowledge, we know we exist
Mario benitez Me everyday.... 😅
check Ghost in the Shell 1995
U r not getting crazy, u r getting have more ability to think and understand the universe. Dont listen anyone, listen you.
This is hands down the best comment section I have ever seen! So many great theories.
I agree discovering the Universe and new technologies are very important
But knowing our Intelligence more and Consciousness are priorities too 👍
we are always fully conscious because our brains work in miraculous ways. even when we are asleep our brain still works. that's why we can actually do anything and everything subconsciously
we are the universe's way of experiencing itself
Yep and the Universe's way of torturing itself, killing itself, making itself suffer, stealing from itself etc.
Scah Saint loving itself, helping itself, saving itself, etc.
Man and god compliment each other.
this is just labels. From perspective all of the universe, its a way of changing matter from one state into another. There is no suffering, there is just process
All experiences have to be had to achieve mastery. We need to experience consequences
The best bit : "Consciousness is nothing more than a cognitive illusion...similar to how desktop of our laptops work as a user friendly interlace, that simplifies and distorts, the complicated processes going on inside "
Food for thought.
+Mukesh Kumar The problem with that analogy is it doesn't account for the actual awareness of said illusion. You can say x is an illusion but that would not account for why the phenomenon of sentience of said illusion is happening.
Apostate Apologetics hmm. There are other 'aware illusions' too, no? Like say lucid dreaming
Mukesh Kumar Yes but your awareness (experience) of the dream (illusion) was real. You confuse consciousness (awareness) for the very thing you are being conscious of (dream).
+Apostate Apologetics This thread reminds me of a talk given by a parblind philosopher at Yale titled "veridical hallucinations." Which are illusions (delusions?) that are a function of visual misperceptions but which the brain perceives as real...
+Apostate Apologetics exactly
The really curious thing is that we have a level of consciousness that transcends merely surviving. We have a level of consciousness that allows us to enjoy and appreciate the level of consciousness we have. Maybe that's the universes way of telling us to be happy.
what a beautiful sentence!
Or God’s way of telling us we are made in His image
Right now I am in the state of consciousness that is transcend and to merely surviving important inclusion of whatever lsd is doing to allow my brain to be conscious in this way which under normal circumstances I would not be able to understand
That is so profound and unexplainable to someone who isn’t on the same conscious (consciousness) field or conscious (surviving as a animal who isn’t actually conscious but thinks he is
@@jedmclachlan2147 I know what you mean brother, lol. I was truly mind blown when I discovered that it was possible for consciousness to be like that the first time I tried it. I hope psychedelics will help us learn more about consciousness in general, and if nothing else, then it can certainly teach you stuff about your own consciousness.
How did I get so little from this video - it feels like a science report with no actual results to discuss, and just throws around words and conversations working with the people in the field
I thought I was the only one who found this video pretty useless
Consciousness can't be an illusion, because illusions themselves are conscious experiences.
damn bruh
***** that's what he said?
I agree! In order to be aware is to be conscious so it has nothing to do with sensory perception. You are still aware!
I think some confusion comes in because , a.-there could be more than 1 kind of consciousness. b-way more than 5 senses & way more than one reality and how that works.
Earth life, is one kind of reality, or pehaps more than one kind, it depends (who knows?) Considering all of that, and local vs. nonlocal consciousness and where does it originate? we are always just guessing.
TRUTH. BEAUTIFUL TRUTH
I personally believe that consciousness created the universe and not the other way around. It would explain why things are relative to the viewer, why perception is different for everyone
We are pure consciousness having a material experience, with our Creator holding it all together.
Yes.
case close would happen to a creation that destroyed true creator if it was possible they cease to exist and it reverts back to normal state meaning nothing till it reforms again
Brahman the supreme reality
Consciousness is basically the OS of the universe. And our brain and body is the hardware used to access this OS
What, then, about DOS?
(no peace💘)
You mean "open-source"..?
The question is who's the user that's experiencing and using the OS
@@bloodymirpoutin3825 no, Operating System
so in which version of OS where we are? :)
I read an article on how an artifical intelligence will help explain the human conscious. This study could be on how we learn behaviors based on our understanding and perspective. It could also explain how memories help shaped the brain's ability to be aware or surrounding and the critical claim of survival.
Has anyone looked in the mirror for a couple minutes and just asked who am I? Felt like I was a stranger to myself it was such a strange feeling.
Yes, alot of times, just happened to me a week ago, i was seeing myself as wierd and as a stranger, and it was the longest ever, happened like for 30 seconds, i was amazed, literally.
Leave others, we are all strangers to ourselves. It straight away puts us in a liberated state.
The most satisfactory explanation I have ever heard about this topic is in Mandukya Upanishad, that too in 7th verse to be more precise.
I am an agnostic and I am set on pursuing what happens after death. This has helped my understanding immensely and I am grateful for that.
You will not 'find' anything because you will seek to exist. Please consider this too
*cease to exist
Yeah I do consider that as well
@@sureshenyogi9754 how do you kno that?
As combat veteran idk why but im back in school and have been seeking the same! Its like my goal to find an answer. If there is any. If not i would like to know
Sometimes i suspect that my consciousness is the *only* that exists. All you people are just puppets in my world, playing a script along, providing the reality with wich i interact...
Same here wtfff
the same here and sometimes it makes me feel so sad and i panic sometimes
+star_light feel so lonely too
There's an actual philosophy for that its called "Solipsism".
Kyle Clark Yeah, i know the word. But it's not like i studied the philosophy or anything. I've felt that way ever since i can remember.
It seems as if consciousness is the only state we will ever experience; If we're not conscious, we don't experience. Trying to apply the concept of reality as one true state I believe causes pain and denial in us. That there is something more real out there, that we cannot experience. If there is, we would never be able to know about it purely of its nature, if there isn't, well alright, we will know about it eventually.
Experience and consciousness is required to define itself. Trying to define it as something that we cannot experience or imagine is therefore impossible.
NOT IMPOSSIBLE... AS GOD IS NOT LIMITED NEITHER ARE WE... ALL IS POSSIBLE... WE HAVE TO KNOW.... NOT JUST BELIEVE... WE WERE MADE IN THE CREATORS IMAGE...RIGHT🤗
Adepts already know now. Study IN consciousness, not study of brain
imabout to stop reading these messages because i know this shit and your confusing me
@@terriepehrson3103 maybe right, maybe wrong. We will find out later. We may be limited or limitless or both and still within our own boundaries.
Absolutely well done and definitely keep it up!!! 👍👍👍👍👍
Consciousness is a distributed brain function. That’s why it is hard to pinpoint. Different parts of the brain send, collect and evaluate sensory information what we collectively describe as being self-aware and conscious. Just like any other brain function, consciousness evolved into existance because it has survival benefits compared to not having it.
A bit reductionist don’t you think?
Disagree. There had to be intelligence before intelligence could be created.
i suffer from depersonalization disorders . this is what I feel everyday, my mind detached from reality
have you've recovered?
Consciousness could be another force like gravity or electromagnetism that exists only in biological beings and manifests itself as a brain. Kind of like how energy tends to manifest itself as a wave, consciousness moulds itself as the most stable entity possible and in this case this object that consciousness tends to mould into using available resources on earth is the brain. Say this force were to go to a metallic planet, then if thermodynamically possible, the consciousness will manifest as a metallic brain instead (like a transformer).This consciousness force could be why brains developed independently in different parts of the world (and maybe the universe), in that no matter where you are, as long as the right matter is available consciousness will manifest as a self aware entity.
Nice concept mate. You could be onto something there.
Wow, never really thought of consciousness as an energy but the pieces of the puzzle do make literal sense in your theory, bravo !!!
OMG English is not my language, but I sense you are onto something here. Could you, or someone else, please rephrase this? Thanks a lot.
can't remember the exact quote by Carl Sagan. It's something like "we are a way for the universe to experience itself". Thus maybe it's inevitable that eventually consciousness will manifest itself in the form of complex neurons and sensory receptors to experience the universe.
Why would consciousness, a phenomenon that exists in one species of animal on one planet (as far as we know), be a fundamental force of nature, universally? That's a really anthropocentric view on all this.
Summary: We don't have an answer, but we have even more questions. Nothing new at this front.
HA
The ability to enjoy things like Art, music and film is what boggles me. Our ability to explain the world around us, mystify, de-mystify, and construct reality is what leaves me thinking about why is consciousness the way it is, Why and how has it been decided that these things were necessary for survival. There is no need for these things in our lives but yet, here we are.
The complexity in which we perceive the world just makes me think that there is more to it. There is no need for such complexity and superfluous existence. We could do without half the stuff we experience/feel but yet here we are. With all....this.
I am sure science will reverse engineer and explain a lot of things in my lifetime. But there is the burning question that occurs to me in my quiet moments. Why is there even life/evolution and succession of things that work in harmonic force together? It is like a machine learning algorithm that continues to grow more efficient over time.
My human pea brain will never understand such things and while it is great to live life by the rules of science. You can also live by supposition within reason. That there is a great unknown and in the age of reason we are too quick to say what is without evidence can be dismissed. I like to be open to possibilities and I veer on the side of rationale. That yes this existence will end and so will my consciousness. But then I think why am I? Why is this?
Intelligent design, it may not be as there are plenty of ridiculous flaws in our bodies and other species. But design there is nonetheless. Consciousness has a higher meaning I believe and so does the universe. I live in the here and now. What I can experience, touch, feel, and think. But me telling someone even 50 years ago the concept of a smartphone, they would laugh and say that's something out of a sci-fi. Everything is not possible till it is possible. Be open-minded and be hopeful it is what has gotten us this far.
Great!
Best computer voice I've heard. It almost sounds completely human.
In September 2018, I bled out (post surgery), had a heart attack from catastrophic blood loss and died. I was “dead” for more than ten minutes. During that time, I was more “alive” than I’ve ever been.
What is consciousness? What is this body? What is life? And what is our place in the whole question? I still don’t know but I do know this: We’re here to bear witness to Creation and to love.
Was ur vision perfectly okay then?And what about ur sense of touch?
Wow what did you saw when you were dead?
To me, consciousness seems so simple. It is a 2 part process in the brain that repeats over and over again(even while we sleep). Part#1 - We attempt to answer the question "What is going on?". Part#2 - We attempt to answer the question "What should I do?". Part#1 is all about using our senses, our memories and our reasoning. Part#2 is all about taking action(or not). The learning aspect of this is about a summation of wisdom(memories + rational).
You seem a little too sure
@@nik8099 I welcome alternatives to this. I enjoy discussing issues like this.
@@dennistucker1153 Why do you take consciousness to be in the brain and reduced to senses, memories, reasons, and action?
@@nik8099 There a few aspects of consciousness. Only one of these aspects is my definition. There are more important aspects like the consequences of this feedback loop. Also more important is how this system ever got started. I think it came about as the result of simple life trying to survive.
And maybe consciousness is everywhere. In streams and rocks etc. And we egotistically focus on ourselves.
YEA THAT IS TRUE
i just told you it is spiritual energy in everything
Consciousness is as mysterious as the universe. One day we'll understand.
madolite, any way to understand it? have you?
Tyata Samrat DMT... try it
no.
Yes
As far as you know though, is there a difference between the universe you perceive, and your consciousness?
"Consciousness is nothing more than a cognitive illusion". And what causes the illusion? Saying its an illusion doesn't solve the problem. It merely avoids and extends it because you can't explain it.
+Herr Absurd He wrote a book called "Consciousness Explained"
avsz efst5 Consciousness Explained Away was how his critics described it.
***** One things for sure: if you don't think it exists you'll never be able to find it. And you won't look either. Better to look and find nothing than never bother to look. That's science.
I'm with you, I think that directly reducing experience to the non-experiential is absurd. Alternatively saying that experience emerges as a property of complexity in the brain is a magical and unparsimonious explanation.
nickolasgaspar It should also be said that throughout history, proponents of material explanations have been remarkably good at explaining away experience ;)
The contents of this channel are as good as it's filming!👌👌👌
I think conciousness gives animals an advantage compared to animals with less conciousness, because they can predict them while being unpredictable.
Forget about brains. If you wanna get an answer to the question, you should explore consciousness in consciousness. This can be done in meditation. The question "What is consciousness" has no verbal answer, because the question only allows answers describing "something", but consciousness isn't something. Therefore, the answer you can find in meditation is not told by words, it is told by silence.
This has to be the most faux-philosophical comment I’ve ever seen haha
The univers is talking to itself thru everybody and everything all the time!
Thats like asking -- what is a tree ?
We can put together a detailed description of the tree ,but we will never know what it is ,we could say tree is energy but that doesnt tell us what tree is .Similarly we will never know what consciousness is .
However it can be seen by those who can see it .Thats as far as we can go .
Just did a search on "Conscience" and this video struck me among the results.
Have not watched it... don't care to either, I am here for YOU.
Minds are far deeper, and YOU came to this video...
Why? ........ ?
All input is valuable since diversity is the best way to avoid overspecialization!
What do you feel when you look into a mirror?
When you stare into your own eyes???
I often look at my limbs and digits with this separation... Just blown away at how weird and complex they are, how detached I am from understanding them... What the bleep am "I"?
How can I have these "thoughts"?
Two mushy balls that can "catch" photonic energy from a giant ball of burning madness in space!??!!
What?!
Hearing is an Atmospheric sensor so sensitive that it makes a cats wiskers look weak and insignificant! On that note, it's gotta suck to be able to FEEL people near you fart with sensors rooted right at your mouth..... Then again they do say "How well are you today" by smelling crotch....
Anyway.. :-)
What blows you away about being conscious?
Your consciousness comes from outside "you". Youre def not your body, thats ego. You are spirit having a human experience. Consciousness is, always was, forever will be. Enjoy the ride! You are but a spark of youre true essence down here in 3d. Youre here to remember youre the creator. LOVE
Not true. We are the created, not the creator.
"Is it a high level summary..."
Yes. It's as simple as that. The debate beyond that point is just fear of purposelessness and ultimately death.
That user illusion metaphor is so great. First time I ever heard it put that way. 10:40
A realization I came to is we think we see & sense external reality but really experience a model built by our mind from sensory input.
I liked the part of accidental discover of consciousness. Shouldn't the same cells be present in other living things, like lab rat on which tests could be performed upon?
"I get introspective and think about the brain and it's kind of like a universe within."
Micro Universe a reflexion mirror the Macro Universe...
This presentation begs the question that matter is fundamental.
Good, thought provoking video.
I find the heartbeat at the start really unsettling with headphones.
What if it is not a product of brain function?
*****
It's not an assumption to make but it is unwise to rule it out either, because we could be closing off a door of inquiry. A small but growing movement in physics is proposing that the reason we have consistently failed to find a unified theory of reality is because we have not taken the role of consciousness into account, i.e. that it maybe be integral to the mechanics of the universe itself.
Even Dennett faces interesting questions he cannot explain. For instance, because research shows that the more you tell people they have no free will the more apathetic they become, he tells people that you should avoid telling vulnerable people they have no free will. But if free will truly is an illusion, then why would telling them they have none change their behaviour at all?
*****
I don't think that's enough of an explanation. We don't know what the laws of physics are as regards consciousness, because we can't actually measure it directly.
The first question directly impacts the second. If it turns out that consciousness is indeed not just a product of brain function, then that could have all sorts of implications for what we think it is and how it works.
I checked out Daniels ted talk and his points for this illusion were absolutely terrible. He used sensory deception to prove it which is wrong.
Godd point, does the universe create consiouness? or does consiousness create the universe?
Link Age
Do you also control the global banking system?
Great presentation. Thanks.
I loved the comments more than the video 😃... inspiring thoughts
As a person diagnosed with Schizoaffective syndrome at age 16 the human brain is a miracle but can also bring down the individual!
Really the number one asset we always possess is our mind 👍
Consciousness is the only thing that cannot be an illusion.
Erlend maybe not
Erlend u r ugly
Erlend this sounds absolutely cliche and dumb but what if consciousness is the only thing fake. The universe, and all that other stuff truly exists, but our brains more or less convince us we’re real.
@@devinstark9593 impossible, because there wouldn't even be a "us" to convince. In order for me to believe falsely that I exist, I must be real, in order to experience the illusion of being real. It's a paradox
Or the greatest one.
can it get any more insane than the approach here? It is beyond rediculous. you certainly show your cards, Economist.
giam 108 Consciousness is a mystery only for evolutionists.
They keep saying they don’t know what it is, because they reject the idea of God and can’t find a “scientific” explanation for it.
How could consciousness and this amazing world come from nothing?
How dumb is this idea!?
Consciousness is awareness, Which is an awakened state of our existence,our brain turns it on or we start becoming consciouss of our sorroundings at around 4 years old, think of your earliest memory or first thought that's when you became aware or your consciouss flipped on. Look into the mirror for 10 minutes everyday and you'll see your conscuisness or existence. Awareness is consciousness.
It's our higher intelligence that separates us from other animals or plants,that live and act simply on instinct.
heighten awareness is consciousness on the physical level
Consciousness is not separable from its contents. In order to be conscious you must be conscious OF something. If you are looking for something you believe to exist called "pure consciousness", what you may find is some state of mind that you will decide satisfies your criteria to be called "pure consciousness", but in reality it will be just another state of mind - still conscious OF something. In that case something abstract.
Bob Aldo first sane comment here. Lets take your thought further and say that content is low level: any sensory input (streams of electrochemical signals generated through sensory organs or even just other parts of the brain). The fact of being aware of input coming in already makes up consciousness.
This programme is primarily based around a reductionism belief system.
I would suggest you look at the work of Stuart Hameroff and Sir Roger Penrose.
I always read the comments and find some amazing responses... and have gained such great propects...
There should be some definite guide lines from the experts and scientists, like Grammar of a Language, how to use the Ladder of Consciousness for further exploration and Study.
Consciousness is that which is aware of itself and its environment, human consciousness in that case experiences its environment through thoughts, feelings and emotions using the mind as a medium. The mind relays the environment to consciousness as it has constructed it with the sole objective of trying to preserve it i.e. consciousness and give it peace and joy. Human consciousness/ being/ awareness is higher in the strata of earthly life because of its mind. The mind and consciousness are both intangible just like energy is and both are products of the brain and the environment/ cosmic system. In death it disintegrates into unconscious energy. My opinion.
false in change into it original state of living energy i seen this when i was a child as my grandmother past and the dark energy left her physical body since then i seen light and dark energy that past out of people as they go to the next stage but some people can't let go of the attachments to the physical world once done they stay in the 4 dimenison as a ghost or spirit form they become violent 3 dimenison holograms of there formal consciousess because they have negative energy from the realm of non existence but stay in the physical world they aren't suppose to be here
Reality is the physical form of consciousness. The human body is a flesh and bone vehicle for the spirit, an avatar for consciousness. As the Bible says "We live in God and God lives in us" we are all one in the same. Love always.
That is not quite what it says:
"For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring."
Acts 17:28
Hi, I was reading from 1 John chapter 4 verse 16 to 19 when I wrote this. But also read Ephesians chapter 4 verse 4, 6
A spirit has never been demonstrated, so there's no reason to believe it exists. If your brain gets damaged/destroyed you as person are altered/ceases to exist.
I love studying about consciousness and theories about it. How do we know its the end all/ be all though? maybe there is something beyond consciousness?
意識の話は面白いですね😊Thank you for your message♪
What if consciousness is a force of nature like electricity? What if the biological body is just like the hardware of a machine and without the electrical force it can't function. Just like how a toaster can be unplugged and plugged and how if the hardware of the toaster breaks down over time then the toaster or body in our case ceases to function. I don't know anything about advanced physics so i couldn't mend a theory to this but i think its cool to think that we are all biological manifestations of a single consciousness and depending on our biology we have different traits and interests kind of how machines with different hardware perform different tasks and specializations. I hope we get to the bottom of this within my lifetime because it would be cool to know for sure what makes us be.
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+C4nadian For the most part I think your post is spot on except for the "single consciousness". A software has to execute each code at its physical limitation. A processor in your computer is really just a calculator crunching very very large numbers which arbitrarily represent things that are meaningful to us. its the translation of our thoughts and ideas into absolute 1s and 0s.
The reason this is a problem is that a single consciousness would have to pass over each object one at a time processing each important aspect of that object as it passes. This would mean our reality runs in a stutter-step. No two things ever change at the same time.
I believe this is not true, but I cannot prove that. Its possible that we do exist in a stutter step reality but we were just programmed in a way that we wouldnt notice that.
However, we already have multithreaded programs and processors that have multiple cores, and we are only at the earliest stages of quantum computing research.
You could have several self-learning programs running at the same time on the same computer, this would be much much more effeicient.
Mike Watkins Interesting, to be honest i was just speculating while baked.
I do understand advanced phisics and there are only 4 fundamental forces - electromagnetic, gravity, weak interaction (holds atomic nucleus together) and strong interaction (holds protons and neutrons together ).
A force of consciousness? a force of awareness, a force of a sense of self? nonsensical in this reality.
+C4nadian I always figured it was more to do with energy
Consciousness is Gods awareness of its self. It is all there is. Its name is I am. I am not religious person,but I know things. Thank you. So be aware of who you really are boys and girls.😉👏
People with Narcissistic personality disorder have a problem with the I AM you've mentioned.
we developed the frontal cortex which I believe plays the role in filtering the senses. It gives choice to decision making. Gives the brain the ability to look at its self like a mirror in terms of observing memory’s
Nice one!
We are the only product of the Universe, made by the Universe, that can change it in a way that the Universe can't do itself. While entropy and heat death occur as a constant, and destruction and dispersion wreck havoc; we busy creatures are creating order from all of the chaos. Consciousness is just that -- the ability to create order from chaos.
the universe is creation and destruction/ light and dark and never ending
Consciousness is a sphere of waves, a vibration source, an energy field. The rest of our brain is just an interface.
The brain does not produce conciousness . The brain is IN conciousness . Its SILENT and STILL .
Consciousness is like using a computer to analyse data and relay the information back to you, in a human's case, the brain, the mind, the senses and the body are part of the computer which analyses different tasks that people are involved with and feeds the information back to them so they can decide what to do, the better the computer the more imformative it is, the better condition the brain, mind, senses and body the more informative it is, the more aware one is of their own system the more consciousness one becomes which can help them transcend their physical and mental limitations to potentially reach the ultimate consciousness of liberation and enlightenment.
1:37 - But they do not both agree on that in the sense that consciousness *only* arises in the brain. This has been questioned by the ancient Greeks, Renaissance figures such as Bruno, Cardano, Patrizi, then later by Spinoza, Leibniz, Fechner, Bergson, James, Whitehead, Bertrand Russell, Galen Strawson, et al. The view that consciousness, or some form of sentience, is and was universal is called panpsychism. Christoph Koch figures prominently here - even he has self-identified as a panpsychist (2012).
does it say both can or cant agree on? english is my second language
+felizz happy Can "That the brain produces consciousness is some thing both sides can agree on..."
liknmylife conciousness can definitely not exist without brain....since if there is no brain thete would be no memory....and without memory no conciousness can exist
liknmylife all i was saying was that conciousness can definetely not exist without memory....suppose u have no memory....can u expirience anything ...no...withoit memory nothing can be expirienced and there are evidences to suggest that memory exists within brain...so conciousness cannot exist without brain
When someone dreams, he is experiencing the dream (so there is active consciousness at play). But later on, that dream can be lost because the memory of it is lost. That doesn't mean there was no consciousness during the lost dream, as it can be tested that people have experiences during the REM phase.
A wise man once said: looking for consciousness in the brain is exactly like looking for the announcer inside the radio receiver.
The whole body is conscious, but the brain is like a central processing unit and acts as the liaison or "adapter" between the ACTUAL consciousness and the physical body and the physical reality.
The bottom line: to think that your consciousness is merely produced and stored in your brain (and is only a bio-electric & chemical construct) is extremely infantile and limited.
I agree 👍🏻
But why should we suspect that it's not the brain that's responsible for producing consciousness?
Bold statement with no proof or supporting evidence. You can lose any body part and still be mentally whole but lose a gram of brain in the wrong place and become a vegetable. This claim is nonsense. Consciousness is just in the brain.
@@Kanzu999we don’t suspect it. We know it.
@@MonMon-xd3zc How do you know it?
Consciousness is information transmitted, information analysis and transformed,and information stored,a series processing
This is defination
First we must discover how one cell multiply in a whom to become a functioning human being. From where it get instructions to generate complicated organs at precise places with precise dimensions. This higher level consciousness as compared to other forms is what makes us different from other living beings.
THE THEORY OF MIND, 'get in another person's shoes, feel what they're feeling, see yhe world from THEIR perspective' . I wonder if research is done on the effects of cannabis related to this subject. I can tell you, smoking cannabis does make you extremely conscious of yourself AND others, you can literally feel what someone you know really well felt/feels in a certain situation. Cannabinoid receptors are all over the brain, and cannabinoids in Cannabis do activate those receptors in many different ways. But the taboo on cannabis will last and prevent serious science from exploiting it. But it does have a potential to make your mind go out of your body and be very empathic, modifying your state of consciousness. The grandfather of Cannabis research, Raphael Mechoulam, thinks sensibility to certain cannabinoids/the amount of certain cannabinoid receptors in the brain are what defines one's personality, the difference in personality between me and you could be linked to differences in cannabinoid receptors in the brain. (remember, our body constantly releases endocanabinoids for countless reasons in the brain)
it's completely impossible to ever know whether a being is conscious, in fact we even assume that everyone else is conscious because we know we are. also why can't consciousness be a spectrum?
It's impossible from a scientific standpoint to know whether anyone is conscious. Materialist scientists love to add layers and layers of pseudo-complexity over the central issue that they cannot point to consciousness and they will never even know where to begin to describe what it is.
Sure, but we don't "know" *anything*. We don't *know* that The Matrix isn't really a documentary. At some point we need to forget about knowing things for certain, and accept the closest we can get is an educated guess. Still, I agree that "consciousness is a spectrum" (probably).
for all we know, im the only concious person in the universe
the only thing that can answer this is.......God.....and I'm not a man of religion whatsoever but the fact that scientist do not know when life was created, we understand the RNA world and where life derived from but actually the moment life was born? Nope, the consciousness? Nope. These are too complex and people here saying it might be energy or etc. Makes zero sense, the fact that we are aware like aware. Why me? Only God can answer this....
+MRxROID Based on what, "holy" books written by people hundreds and thousands of years ago? They supposed to know any better than us? You may not practice what the books tell you to do, how to govern your life, but you do believe in what it says about the existence of "God". So I ask you, Why? Why does it have to be "God", a single entity? Do you acknowledge that the universe is almost infinitely vast? If so, why does this "God" only revolve around us humans, who are but an insignificant speck within a speck? To pursue science is to constantly search for the answers, and constantly make speculations, however wild they are. Most importantly, it is to admit to one simple phrase, "we don't know". Is that too hard to do? One should never jump to conclusions and should always look at things objectively and with a grain of salt.
Very good video.
Helpfull
_Blessings to you._ ⬆
out of body experience, near death experience, regression and re birth statements from children; all point to clues about consciousness
+Chan! pineal gland and DMT
The state of being aware of and responsive to one's surroundings.
i'm sure of something that one day science and philosophy meets at some point where we can find the better understanding of self consciousness and universe.
you've confused 'consciousness' with 'consciousness of self' again, common mistake, anthropocentrism motivated. Dogs, cats, horses, pigs, cattle, etc etc are all conscious, but most animals are not conscious of self, and not sensible of another's self.
+Dick Hamilton
Thank you, anthropocentrism, lovely word. :)
+Logical-Functions Model 93 great language, English - stole words from everywhere and kept them all, so has a word for most things :)
Dick Hamilton :)
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+Xadem it's just the effect of the usual "Humans are best" shtick. And so I ask, always, "Best at what?"
Dick Hamilton Precisely, I would say that humans have great potential as a living organism, but things like Archaea have a really good track record in terms of survival.
We do not yet have a complete understanding of "communication" at a cellular level. Seems consciousness the result of millions of "bits" working in concert. Next question: Are highly intelligent more conscious then the average?
Consciousness is the metaphysical ground of everything. Matter don't give rise to consciousness. Matter is a thought inside of consciousness. This can be verified in your own experience by having what the Buddhists call an 'enlightenment experience' or by radical skepticism.
Keywords: Celebral cortex, claustrum, cerebelum, peripheral tissue, the theory of mind, evolutionary advantages of conciousness, neural correlates of conciousness.
Did they say, “...until the problem of consciousness is solved...” Who would have thought consciousness was a ‘problem’? It’s an *odd* statement.
Trying to explain it away is the problem that hardcore materialists are facing
Why is the Economist reporting on consciousness?
??? Evidently you're not very familiar with The Economist.
The most interesting question I've ever become of 🙂
A very apt view for such a publication.
(However incorrect it may be...)
Pure conciousness exists in the subconscious. For if you can be completely aware in your subconcious mind, then you can be truly present in your concious world.
Our soul is our consciousness
Automatic response integrated with stimuli differentiates. We breathe at will, we also breathe without thinking. Cells grow yet do not control them. The mind is an amazing thing. Consciousness is undefinable. It simply is.
I paused at 1:42. I'm pretty certain that consciousness does not arise in the brain but exists independent of the brain. The brain is more like a radio receiver. Apparently, many of your contributors and commenters share this view. Still a great video and many parts have been added to my collective knowledge on this enigma.