Is Alcohol Bad for Spiritual Awakening? | Eckhart Tolle Explains
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- Eckhart shares his thoughts about alcohol consumption and says that as presence arises, inebriation won’t affect awareness.
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I stopped smoking, drinking and doing drugs after awakening 4 years ago. Been doing all kinds of stuff for the past 25 years but Like Eckhart says, after awakening the body simply rejects it :) No need for meetings, rehabs or help from anyone. Pretty amazing.
Same story. Regards ;)
Me too. 3 and a half years clean and sober after I started waking up. Something I struggled with for 35 years, I just walked away from. I don't even think about it anymore. No meetings, nothing, just walked away.
I gave up drinking alcohol and smoking simultaneously (on the same day), cold turkey, 10 years ago. Never touched either since. Dropped both like a stone after 25 years of heavy indulgence. Don't know why it happened like that on that particular day, it was a good day though.
Alleluia!!!!
Well done you 👍 but we must always be careful not to swap one addiction for another, and being consumed by our beliefs can also become an addiction if we we not careful and can be every bit as consuming and addictive as, alcohol cigarettes and drugs. 🙏🙏🙏🙏 Ballance is the key to experiencing personal happiness and sharing collective happiness with others 🙏🙏🙏🙏
I lost all desire to consume alcohol when I embarked on the spiritual enlightenment journey and I have been sober for 10 months
Is life amazingly better now ?
Congratulations. Which path are you on prabhuji?
Yep things are different now .I am more than 3 years sober. ODAAT 🥰
I quit drinking 5 years ago and wish I had done it sooner in my life. I feel so clean and I love the sober feeling of clarity in my mind. Sometimes I get bummed about the years I wasted being wasted.
Well done 👍 - keep it up
Lessons learned are good things, don't be bummed! You can "reclaim" those years by helping other people to avoid losing theirs. Every time your words are the catalyst in helping someone else get clean, and you save them years of their life, the years you spent learning the lessons you needed to heal others this way don't feel so wasted anymore.
It’s okay to feel that grief about lost time, you just need to feel it and accept it fully
I'm one year sober after 35y alcohol abuse. Thank you 😊
It's almost 8 years ago when i drinked my last alcohol. It feels good to not have a hangover/headache, guilty feelings about drinking, stomach problems and regret about doing things under the influence of alcohol. Also it's nice to have just a natural high from the simple things in llife.
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I stopped drinking a few months ago, when I realised alcohol was becoming destructive in my life both internally and externally.
Good for you and knowing yourself well enough to recognise, accept and address your personal issues 🙏🙏🙏🙏
One day at a time.
🙏🙏🙏
19 years sober
Praise God!
I had a highly stressful and demanding job so I got into a mind-set of "rewarding" myself with binge drinking on weekends only. Got into all kinds of trouble as a result. Eventually bottomed out due to am embarrassing incident, went to some AA meetings, and have now been sober since 2016. The rewards of sobriety are subtle and completely unlike the high drama of the lush life, but trust me, you will appreciate such lack of drama over time.
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Still caught in the cycle of binge drinking and a certain 'wanting' to drink so that I actually lose presence and awareness lol even though I am highly sensitive person, an empath and very much into spirituality in my daily life. I really wish to stop the wanting and this habit but honestly struggling pretty badly. I see the negative affects it has on my life, yet still do it. Absolute madness. I hope one of these days I will have the strength to stop.
Edit: wow thank you beautiful people for your comments and support
I had a feeling to reaching out and say you are heard out here. And I wish he had addressed addiction in general here a little more than he did. That addictions as I know well always are attempts to deal with pain and or trauma. (Gabor Mate speaks well on this). I also think in the addictive process itself is a reaching for love that a part of us feels is deeply missing. (Not madness but a wound....and deeply human). So that's why it's soooo hard to put down for some in my opinion. I struggle with my own addictions am definitely somewhat awake:). Sending blessings and a little prayer out to you and to myself and others out there that we can release the substances whatever they are that keep us from fully awakening and feeling that love and presence within us.
I was like you. AA is a good solution for this type of drinking problem. It's not about getting the strength to stop. It's giving over control and surrendering to a higher power/ spirit/ God that graces you one day at a time to live freely of the desire to drink. It can be a hypocritical program at times, but it is a wonderful doorway to find tools to living a spiritual life free of a substance that clouds your mental, emotional and spiritual perception. I haven't had a drink in years and don't want one. Spiritually, that desire was removed. Physiologically, I believe once the body gets freed of this substance, it no longer craves it.
Hi Alice, I had a similar experience but weaned myself off about 18 yrs ago. I then would try to “just have a little” and realized how my body was physically rejecting it and then I just stopped. However, I felt like I still needed it to chill out and realized after several ER visits I actually had slightly high blood pressure. Now I’m on a blood pressure pill and I feel perfect with no need to have alcohol. I also love all the money I save. You can quit, just know you will miss the habit for a few months and then you’ll be fine and adjust to not having it. I know you can do it :)
Sending blessings your way. I also struggle with addiction and I'm not too sure how to give it up. You're not alone, I hope we can figure this out together
In my case, AA was a blessing.
I drank heavily and frequently, it was a burden on my family and on myself.
I've been sober for over 8 yrs now.
I love the fact that he is not an extremist. Spirituality is not about becoming absolutely "pure"; it's about being sufficiently awakened to live in this world without falling back again into unconsciousness.
I couldn't agree more Ash, it's all about balance and non judgement in my opinion, too much alcohol, food, spirituality, religion and pretty much most other things can become a problem for any of us if we lose self awareness 🙏
Since this teaching is not derived from organized religion, in fact, isn't even "religion," abstinence, or not, is left up to the individual, not threatened to be a "sin."
Exactly! I love how grounded, humorous and "normal" he is.
One drink here or there might not be bad but in the end the truth lies in the balance of an individual psyche. If you want to do something but you know it's bad for you and you go ahead and do it anyway, you will either be able to let go of that choice, or that choice will haunt you, and if it haunts you, you know repeating that decision or choice is in its very essence the definition of unconscious living.
@@oliround the reality is that many people can't have "just" One drink. So, one drink leads to more than one and can become more often than is originally planned. Also, if person in a vulnerable emotional situation, addiction can creep up.
My drug of choice was Marijuana. Certainly alcohol and other drugs are worse, but I found that it dragged me down just the same. Ironically, I started smoking to try to become more spiritual. But, after 10 years I now realize it did just the opposite.
Yes I like both and level out
How so? curious
I've fallen for that trick of the ego so many times. "I'm getting high spiritually".
In a sense it's completely true, fortunately I have enough presence to see what's happening. I'd legitimately get high with spiritual intentions and maybe even make some progress on the first day. But the real problems start when I let my thoughts convince me that I need to do the same thing the next day. And the next day, etc.
Some people can do okay with this, but I almost always end up upping the dose every time to try to get "further", which starts to ruin all the progress.
the other day, i was out drinking with friends and had one too many beers and as i was dizzy and almost feeling physically ill, i had the biggest moment of awakening. everything around me was so clear, insecurities were arising within me and yet i noticed it wasn't the core of who i was. i was entirely lucid and conscious and realized that i needed to stop drinking right now and go home.
I am an alcoholic, and was in the depths of what I have learned is the pain body renewing itself over and over in my alcoholism. I felt trapped and like my "self" had been split, literally, into two parts. I tried for a long time to be free of the addiction but it had me in it's grip. I came across some snippet from Eckhart describing how you are not your mind, and it struck me so deeply. I began to listen to more, starting with A New Earth, and I felt the truth in it. I felt for the first time in a long time like there was a way away from my mind, the thing that was destroying me slowly - or actually rather quickly. From there it gave me the strength to get additional help and support and begin my path that I'm currently on, which is seeking enlightenment. Prior to this I was an atheist. Now I believe in the intelligence that is undeniable, what a Eckhart refers to as the "source". I would not say that alcoholism directly led me to enlightenment, but the pain that existed in me found alcoholism as an outlet, or a renewal for my pain body. And as I sought relief, I was open to hearing the truth. It's true what Eckhart says, that if alcohol is a trigger for your pain body, if it takes you into unconsciousness, then avoid it at all costs. I'm now sober and thought of a drink makes me physically ill, my body and who I truly am rejects it. If that isn't your trigger, then enjoy.
Thank you Eckhart as always for your wisdom and truth.
Thats awesome!!! The natural high is so much better just like when we were children we didn't nees the most consumed drugs coffee and alcohol to be energetic and present in the moment enjoying life.
@@johnmarston130 K huhhyyujhhyipp
Lol! Thanks Eckhart! I’ve been sober 23 years. AA saved my life. After 10 years sober, I had an incredible awakening experience while reading the Power of Now. Had inner body awareness ever since.
As someone struggling with addiction can you offer any advice?
@@jessebristow698 Hey man, if you want it then you will change, & nothing in the world is going to change for you to be better. Change is all internal, as help: focus on where you want to be and who you want to be, and notice how alcohol (or whatever grips you) may or may not be in the picture. If it's not, then every passing moment is a step forward, if it is, then you'll have to make that first step. It's never easy, but very very possible and you can do it.
@@jessebristow698 I would recommend looking at Gabor Mate's work about addiction and trauma. I also highly recommend The Presence Process by Michael Brown (also endorsed by Gabor). Look into breathwork especially transformational breathwork x
This is quite interesting to me, as an alcoholic, continuously sober since Feb '95. I had sudden and impactful awakening experiences that have continued to grow and develop. Almost since about the first couple of weeks or so, I have neither desired, nor required, alcohol or other mind or mood altering substances. One thing that may have helped was that I didn't, at any time, want to hold on to any part of the life I was previously living as I was living it. That being said, I am eternally grateful for the Awakening.
I would note, however, that the real alcoholic also experiences a physical manifestation that apparently does not exist in the non-alcoholic. Much confusion seems to exist around this. That is the phenomenon of craving. Once alcohol is taken into the body,a physical demand for the intake of more alcohol engages in the alcoholic. I found it be similar in both intensity and immediate need to fulfil, to the need to take a free, unrestricted breath of air when oxygen-deprived for a short period of time. The overwhelming need to take in more alcohol arises and the cycle of drinking continues until either the attainment of oblivion or the forced removal of access to alcohol occurs. Once stopped, the recovery process can be restarted immediately upon cessation of drinking and the elimination of residual alcohol in the body.
Therefore, the consumption of any alcohol after a period of sobriety, with or without any real or supposed spiritual awakening, is likely most safely avoided. If unsure, it may be better not to experiment. If certain, no experimentation will be necessary. If unsuccessful experimentation is survived, though, it may not be necessary any further.
I have witnessed others fall back into alcoholic drinking after varying periods of sobriety that could be weeks, months, or even years, only to succumb to the demands of alcoholism and waste away essentially because they came to think that they may have been somehow immunized against the effect of alcohol and could now control and enjoy drinking. That will, hopefully, not have to be the case for many more.
All the best to all concerned.
Congratulations, you're a person of high determination.
🙏🙏🙏🙏
@@elizabethfonseca922 thank you. Perseverance is one of my beneficial characteristics. :)
Great comment Wayne, well said!❤
Stop drinking is impossible.
Not drinking is.
One is too much for me but 1000 is never enough.
31 days sober! Thanks Eckhart! =)
So right. Moderation. BUT you have to stay in control and be AWARE! 👌🙏🏼
Not really. I eventually read the book by Allen Carr. The easy way to stop drinking. It’s very convincing. There’s nothing good that comes from drinking alcohol. It works .
Moderation? "small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it"
@@bhaktajason nice one J .. why bother right?
Sober for about six years now. No desire at all. Awakening and healing has now given me that state I was searching for I think. I don't know how people do it. I was an everyday drinker before.👑🙏🏽👑
For the last few years, three things I've worried about is coffee, cannabis and alcohol. However, I've found that as I've awakened more and more - improving my mental health - the less and less I've had to rely on these substances. In other words, I didn't really have to quit, it just happened by itself.
I can stay conscious after several glasses of wine, the problem is the feeling of depression the next day definitely anchors me in my mind, exactly as Eckhart says there.
Wow this is so true to my experience. I have been “awakening” for awhile now and I definitely don’t desire to drink as I used to. When I was an alcoholic I felt I needed it and would drink until I lost control. Now I might have a glass socially and then don’t wish for more. Awakening has been the only helpful tool for this after trying literally everything.
I stopped drinking three years ago. Huge increase in quality of life and mental health when I did. Best to stay away from alcohol.
Dry January begins tomorrow for me!
My new years resolution also was to stop alcohol through 2023 and hopefully further. Best of luck to you 🙏
Yup me too
I lasted 10hrs Sleeping with that one ...
How'd the rest of you go ?
Since my awakening started, my desire to drink alcohol diminished more and more. I felt like alcohol had a bad influence on my body and spiritual awakening.
So, I have not been drinking any alcohol for some years now and I have zero desire to do so.
What I see around me is that any addiction… like drinking, smoking, eating, fasting, running, cleaning, sleeping, gaming, internetting, arguing, talking, judging, and so on… is easily replaceable and thus will probably be replaced as soon as you stop one of them 🙄 unless you become conscious of the reason why it is you developed an addiction. It’s worth doing some inside research to not end up in this vicious circle 😊 At least you can choose the addiction you like most, or the one that causes least harm 😉 Thank you for your inspiring teachings Eckhart 🙏
uhm there is no profound reason or whatever deep spiritual buzzwords in determining addiction. it happens because you find pleasure in it and you have nothing else to do. thats just how humans function because we are living in an era of self indulgence. almost everything is easily accessible and gratifying but is short lived.
The higher taste
We are trying to fill the inner void from outside influences. We are scared to face the void, so fill it with distractions.
Everyone is addicted to something and if you’re not you’re probably addicted to being self righteous!! Or consciousness haha (this is meant in jest ❤)
@@chaz7604 the higher taste
Presence did for me what I could never do for myself: sobriety. Thank you Eckhart for helping get in touch with Presence
I'm an alcoholic and, thanks to AA, I've been sober for 8 and a half years.
It's true that AA practices some spirituality, although no specific religion is ever mentioned.
We are encouraged to admit the existence of a Higher Power, some of us call it God, some just say it's a superior power.
Even before AA, I was interested in spiritual stuff, but many of my fellows discovered spirituality during our meetings.
ONE DAY AT A TIME. ✌️🙏❤️
Why would you conflate spirituality and religion?
@@HumansAreShitFactories because they're often connected, maybe?
@@elizabethfonseca922 That’s what the great deceivers of organised religion would like you to believe so they can control your mind into maintaining the power hierarchy that they are at the top of. Religion gains its strength from appealing to what is in people already and trying to capitalise on it.
@@HumansAreShitFactories okay then.
@@elizabethfonseca922 🍌
Great video. I quit everything for 2 years following a Kundalini Awakening, more recently (and I know I'm not alone in this) I've been going out during shows, having a few beers and having the best time ever! Totally aware... It doesnt effect me like it used to. Sometimes we can have an attachment to NOT having an attachment! However, each to their own soul journey and blessings to all of those who suffer with addictions of any kind x
"Sometimes we can have an attachment to NOT having an attachment!" Oh thank you, thank you! You put in words something I was struggling with for last days
@@Smoczur777 aww thankyou, happy to even give the slightest bit of insight! Took me a good few years to discover and interstand that principal. We're often just replacing something with something else, instead of pushing out the energy that caused it in the first place! Blessings your way ✨️ 🙏🏼
Thank you for this teaching. This brings to mind an important quote very dear to me from Marshall Vian Summers.
"If the mind serves itself, it will be fundamentally competitive and destructive. It will always want more of what it thinks it wants and needs. Beyond meeting certain basic survival requirements, it will always want more. It will never have enough. It will want more of this and more of that-more pleasure, more security, more recognition, more approval , more power, more dominance, more beauty. All these things become addictions of the mind. They cannot be satiated. You want more. You gain more. You are not satisfied. And of course most people do not even have enough to even live a balanced and harmonious life, so the more you want for yourself, the more you draw from the limited resources of the world, the more you deprive other people."
Thank you Alison!
thank you for this
It really is the Devil's drink... It has the ability to give you an initial high but at the same time makes you depressed.
insidious spirit
This really hit home. I've been a spiritual alcoholic for over 30 years.
What’s a spiritual alcoholic?
does your significant other agree with your self-assessment? Just askin
What do you mean by “spiritual alcoholic” ?
Identity.
It's a joke people
I feel wanting more and more after drinking a couple of glasses of alcohol. 🍺🍷 That's why I quit drinking. I enjoy being sober for 10 years.😊
I chose to stop drinking (after 35yrs) as the 1st step on my spiritual journey. I know that I could not have achieved awareness otherwise. Since it was my choice to stop drinking, I have no issues being around people that consume alcohol. I also volunteer at a Detox center, as part of a pet therapy team, to provide encouragement to people that have made the decision to quit abusing alcohol and drugs. Eckhart has been inspiration to me.
I am on the start of my sobriety, fed up with shame, anxiety and guilt after drinking. 9 weeks in and I was saying to my girlfriend that exact example, that alcohol severs the link between awareness and being unaware and that I will have to start again if I drink.
Then I watch this video and Elhart is saying the same thing, maybe I am a bit of a guru in the making.😊
Life experiences are all mental. Does one consume a glass of wine to enhance an experience or drink daily because the past is too painful? Those are based in a mental process to start with.
Personally I think a couple of beers can be an asset to slowing down an over active mind sometimes , while too much alcohol tends to be a depressant, especially the next day and can make everything seem much worse than it really is. Its important know and be honest with ourselves and how the things we indulge in effect us personally,, be that alcohol, thoughts and beliefs, all can be double edge swords 🙏🙏🙏🙏
@@peace333 Ever try to do these things without an intoxicant?
@Late Bloomer i sometimes it's all about what gets you through that day, that time, that period of your life,. We all know that processed food, takeaway fast foods bread, coffee, tea aren't healthy , and we all know mass produced vegetables and farming are destroying our planet by realising carbon into the atmosphere, we all know the clothes we wear are made in sweatshops by children who get paid barely enough to feed themselves with, we all know the cars we drive are polluting the earth, but unconscious people who believe themselves to totally conscious pick and choose what things to label good and bad, right and wrong and choose to ignore or worst still justify their own indulgences and satisfy their ego by judging others.
The reality is sometimes we all need something to help us get from A to B sometimes,, even Eckhart with his one or two glasses of wine while eating his carnivorous meal and no doubt followed by a coffee or two 😊. Let he without sin cast the first stone, as, they say 😊, if drinking is a problem for YOU and YOU want to get help then please reach out to those who are there to help, but if its not a problem please don't let egotistical judgmental people push you into anything you personally don't want to or are nit ready to do. All is well my friend 👍🙏🙏🙏
I eventually read the book by Allen Carr. The easy way to stop drinking. It’s very convincing. There’s nothing good that comes from drinking alcohol. It works .
@@zoobrizz if its right for you Dave then i am genuinely pleased for you. I wish you every happiness 🙏🙏🙏
I open youtube with this question and the first video is this one wow perfect.
Reading about how AA started and it's early days was the beginning of my spiritual awakening.
I listened to your talk on alcohol with interest. I have many years of experience working in the addiction community as a therapist. Alcohol is well-known as a mood-altering substance. How the body responds to alcohol is also well-known, as well as its effect on the brain and mind. There is only one reason for using alcohol. You use it for the effect you get in the mind-body, and that is the bottom line. You can rationalize and analyze it all you want to justify its use, but it is in changing your mood that you use alcohol or any mood-altering substance. Why would you use it if it didn't change your mood and affect your mind-body?
You cannot be fully available and emotionally and physically present if you are using alcohol. Even small amounts of alcohol will have a physiological effect on the body. Will your conscious mind perceive those subtle differences in the mind-body? Not likely, but they are there, and presence will struggle to maintain itself.
How the body feels is an interpretation of the mind, and the mind is the gateway to consciousness. The body is servant to the mind. When the servant is not present or aware, the master is open to attack and can also lose presents.
The story you tell about Ramdas giving up his stash to the guru is also told by Wayne Dyer and his guru experience. Alan Watts also expresses similar stories. They make exciting and interesting conversational stories but are difficult to verify.
If you are present, excited with life, and at a high state of being, why would you want to change that state at dinner time? Alcohol alters your state of being and is an excellent social lubricant as well as a mood-altering substance.
Every moment is a choice.
Note: I use the word "mind" with caution because no one knows what the mind is and where it's located.
Peace.
Mike
Mike, thank you for posting. I found your comment very informative. ❤️
Thanks for explaining how the pain-body comes in and especially with men in relation to alcohol. It can become dangerous and life threatening to the woman in their life since it can lead to violence.
@@alison2161 Thanks for sharing, Alison. It’s helpful to face up to truth while sad to realize that violence applies to some women, too.
When one is firmly in awareness, acting in moderation and self control becomes the benefit. Feeling how you feel and the ability to interpret what is hurtful and beneficial short and long term for your health improves. In awareness you are free and know the limits for your own good. It takes time to learn but when one develops in spiritually and lives in the moment, the skills improve and choices and limits are much better known for one's own good. A feeling of gratefulness for the gift of life and a sense of being connected to your Source helps make living a joy and a blessing.
You are not alone. All the best for you and never give up!
This helps me a lot, as I am occasionaly catching myself as obsesively trying to be absolutely pure in every possible aspect of my life...
One more was my favourite phrase. It got me into trouble many times. Thankfully, I’m now sobre and feel much better for it.
Brilliantly said, Eckhart from one who has observed alcoholism too much! Thank you! 🔥
Thank you all for sharing your journeys 🙏 May 2023 be an abundant and prosperous year for you all. One Love ❤️
I've been sober for 25 years and I am here to testify alcohol quenches the spirit.
Meaning dims ??
@@Username45q
Some people think "sand" quenches their thirst.
@@Username45q
To some degree for some people they seek alcohol and stop "seeking"
They're "thirst" they believe is quenched
@@Dan0948 so your saying Alcohol slows your progress??
@@Username45q
Not anymore..😉
Perhaps it is not wise for anyone with a family history of alcoholism to even have one drink. Yes, he agrees!
Once the soul realizes they are not the flesh and they are not the external. It is freedom. It is how it changes our thinking and our perceptions that are the danger. If we believe we “this label” and “that label” we subconsciously become it because we believe we are. But If we stay present and just observe as if the passing clouds above us, nothing outside of us can harm us as we are spirit beings having a human experience
Mumbo jumbo that's goes in a circle and arrived nowhere. What ultimately did you mean?
@@mickzammit6794 sounds to me like she's been meditating
@@bhaktajason yes but the big issue with meditation is for it to be beneficial it requires absolute silence. Externally and internally. Her thoughts seem the product of new age philosophy when really the source of contentment and peace of mind are as old as the universe we live in. Seek a silent place in a forest beside running water. Then stare at the water until the thoughts you need come to you instead of you seeking them. I'm lucky as I always choose to live in such places.
@@mickzammit6794 Err, Japa?
@@mickzammit6794 the eyes of your soul are shut. Small minds cannot interpret or discern spiritual things because of ego.
My thoughts are not new age, but given to me by the Holy Spirit.
You’re still in the world, so you see things from a worldly view.
Believe and have a relationship with Jesus Christ and you’ll get a birds eye view and will be led into ALL Truth.
As we say in AA, recovery is like going up a down escalator. If you don't continue forward motion you're regressing.
What does forward motion look like in sobriety?
what is AA?
Beautiful soul, we are blessed to have you Ekhart
The most important part, is when he described how The Guru stay awakened after he took many pills, and the reason is because he was always in an awareness state, and he kept the awareness always available in the background and once the awareness is there you will be aware about what you are thinking or feeling, and once you are aware about any thought or feeling you will not be identified with it and it will not be able to control you... for sure i knew this from the great teacher Eckart Tolle, and it enhanced a lot of things in my life, i can't thank him enough :)
Alcohol is a depressant and it is the worst social drug.
Gambling, hard drugs, religion, money, power, authority, respect, being admired, they are all as bad as alcohol when they become an addiction. Surely anything we do that makes us happy while at the same time not causing unhappiness and misery for others is extremely healthy for all,, we all have our likes and dislikes and we none of us should who consider ourselves to be aware would ever want to inflict or restrict our personal choices on others. 🙏🙏🙏🙏
@@johngreen4683 Professor David J. Nutt (FMedSci), a neuropsychopharmacologist, who heads DrugScience, their group determined that MDMA, LSD & mushrooms were the (#-s)afest known social drugs, representing a very low-risk to the user or those around them, where alcohol was found to be the most dangerous social drug. Alcohol is one of the few social drugs that make people aggressive. I agree that many things can be addictive and I have no problem with people who can drink responsibly. And in regards to inflicting or restricting personal choices, I agree, but that's not the case here since I'm trying to acquire LSD for my mental health but I am unable to since the government still has it illegal. I've lost all trust in the authorities who have conflicts of interests with the pharmaceutical industry and have suppressed medicines/ substances for decades that can cure my illness.
@@fuzinonzlot professor Nutt has produced synthetic alcohol that gives the effects of two alcoholic drinks maximum, you drink two drinks you feel merry, relaxed and uninhabited, if you drink 3, 4, 5, or 10 drinks of his drink the effects do not increase in the slightest. The potential is huge, I have actually bought and tried his first product. The first time i drank two drinks my thoughts slowed down dramatically i was completely relaxed, and slept like a baby in a deep unbroken sleep from 11pm to 7am, unfortunately my next two tries had no effect whatsoever. Proffer Nutt and his team will improve the product and i believe it will eventually replace alcohol, drugs and antidepressants. 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Alcohol is a poision to the body. That’s just a fact at this point. Now if one chooses to drink or not is your own journey but my life and spiritual awakening truly began once I stopped drinking for good this year. Everyday is a new miracle and I’m not exxagerating
You off it all year ?? I only drink on occasion ie Christmas but it makes me depressed but it's what people do at events....that's where I find it hard to say no .....
@@Username45q , isn’t it funny. And then you get pressured into drinking because your friends and family feel strange and feel bad and you don’t want them to feel bad so you drink. It’s really really odd.
I read the power of now when I was a teen and it got me through and gave me hope when I was really struggling.
The word 'alcohol' comes from the Arabic 'al-kuhl' or 'al-ghawl, which could be translated as "al": spirit, and "ghawl": black, dark, ogre.....
💜💜🙏🙏
Exactly thats why alcohol is called spirits. It's fire water.
I have met a number of alcoholics (many of whom were helped by AA)... It is amazing (and a bit heart-breaking) how deeply spiritual many of them are: they used alcohol in an attempt to fill a spiritual "hole" inside that they were never taught how to properly fill.
From what I have seen, many simply trade one crutch for another. Not that I would deny someone a crutch if they need it... 😎
Yogananda is telling in his book about a friend who wanted to be enlightment so badly, but he couldn't stop drinking alcohol, but even he was an alcoholist he managed to reached enlightment!
I always think of Alan Carr with this subject
Alan Watts died because of alcohol and he seemed very spiritual.
@@VegasLos he was a beautiful soul. But Alan didn’t walk the talk as they say…
He was obviously a rare case
Most heavy drinkers are not in this category
@@staceymurray9644 I don't think Alan Carr has reached or is even seeking enlightment lol! :D
I don't smoke anymore and I drink somewhat 2-3 times per year, usually 2-3 beers at Christmas and Juhannus( scandinavian middle summer fest). It has been working for me thus far.
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@@lemurianchick i reconize she's from Finland so thats just a Finnish saying 😁
After Ayahuasca and the inner work over the years, I felt a natural aversion to alcohol and shopping. Now I need more help to quit that nicotine monster.
I eventually read the book by Allen Carr. The easy way to stop drinking. It’s very convincing. There’s nothing good that comes from drinking alcohol. It works . He also wrote a book on cigarettes
Stop drinking because I felt the rebound effects,hardest thing I am still doing like said can’t touch it if you’re addicted stay strong brothers
I quit drinking once for 66 straight days. On the morning of the 66th day I woke up and could physically feel my third eye forming in the centre of my forehead.
did you drink on day 67?
@@mkprocter882 Yup. Last time it ever happened.
And I write this, being the widow of an alchoholic, who on various occasions threathened my life.
"Alcohol can disturb before enlightenment, because it can make you more unconscious - that’s its whole purpose. Your consciousness is burdened so much with anxieties, worries, anguish, that you take a drink and feel good because your consciousness goes to sleep. Hence, before enlightenment, any kind of intoxicant is absolutely to be dropped. It affects your consciousness and drags it downwards towards darker realms of unconsciousness. And the whole effort of the seeker is to pull the darker parts out into the light, so this is just the reverse process. But after enlightenment you are free. There is no problem; now no intoxicant can make your consciousness drop from the height it has reached. You can enjoy intoxicants if you like, there is no danger. But ordinarily, all the enlightened people in the past have not used intoxicants after their enlightenment.
After enlightenment one can drink any alcoholic beverage. But there is no need, because the enlightened one has no tensions, no anxiety. He has nothing to drown in alcohol, so there is no need for him. But just to be a good companion to you, he can drink a little bit once in a while. That will keep him more human, and that will give you more hope! It will destroy the distance between the enlightened and the unenlightened. And that is my greatest effort - to destroy any distance between the enlightened and the unenlightened.
I love one statement of one of the most important people of the West, Alan Watts. He was a drunkard, but he was the man who introduced to the West the most essential parts of Zen and enlightenment. He wrote not as a scholar, but as a master. Before he was dying, he was still drinking and a disciple asked him, "Have you ever thought... if Buddha had seen you drinking alcohol, what do you think he would have thought about it?"
Alan Watts said, "There is no problem. I always drink in an enlightened way."
The question is not what you do, the question is how you do it. Yes, I accept Alan Watts′ statement. There is a possibility of a man to drink alcohol in an enlightened way. Enlightenment should not have any limits. And it should not have a particular formula, a particular pattern that you have to follow.
Enlightenment should be an individual experience - the most individual experience, incomparable and unique to everybody. Once this is understood, all the clouds that surround you with darkness start dispersing."
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My brother was an alcoholic of many years. Sadly, he passed eleven years age at an early age.
I realize now after listening to Eckhart, that he had a terrible self-concept of himself and therefore relied on alcohol as a crutch.
There was only so much anybody who loved hjm could do. He was his own worst enemy. In fact, I think that he would have poo-pooed this self-awakening as part of his refusal and therefore furthered his denial of his illness. It just makes me more appreciative of a better self-concept for myself but empathetic to my brother's fateful plight
This was also my way to awakening (alcoholism). I also suggest not to follow it because it usually ends very badly :) Which is very interesting, I don't need alcohol anymore, but I'm not going to test it :))))))
People who go to AA are not taught to "test" it. They are taught to remove it from their lives. While it's true there are people who can resume drinking in moderation after being flaming alcs it is still perilous for many alcoholics to resume drinking in moderation and often results in relapse.
@@FriendofDorothy For me, drinking just didn't make sense one day. Then I joined AA. For about a year I wondered what had actually happened. Ekhart helped me a lot to see that. I think the experience of the fall led to liberation. Also from alcohol by the way. This liberation is too important to lose. I'm home.
@@mariusztakeoff2622 i think you hit the nail on the head when you said " drinking suddenly didn't make sense to me anymore", i think the key to change is to choose to change yourself, rather than be told or convinced to change by others. Your chances of success are hugely increased when its what you want as well as possibly need to do. 🙏🙏🙏🙏
I couldn’t not agree more with what he said. It is spot on. Exactly as I experience it.
There is a massive difference between having two drinks and three drinks. If you have three you’ll end up wanting more.
Why have any?
@@christopherpederson1021 That would be extremely difficult, both socially and for what I do for work.
So bizarre. I got sick last week and have been completely sober for seven days now, then this video randomly pops up. Gotta love it
The Power of Now is a wonderful book! Thank you Mr. Tolle
Read the Big Book! It saved my life! Going to meetings working the steps you WILL have a spiritual experience! My life is completely different almost 2 years sober. It took a few times. Don’t ever give up.
A spiritual awakening is needed for alcoholism. It’s the only way. ❤
AMAZING story!
Thank you for clarification. Clears up a lot of my "thinking".
10.5 years substance free... TRUTH compassion is a beautiful human
Alcohol is one of the worst drugs.
Alan Watts’s relationship to alcohol keeps coming to mind. He loved the drink a great deal.
Most people don't understand Alcoholism!
It's my thinking, that's the problem, always has been;!
I've come out of psychosis 3 times, & wet brain,
Only by the grace of God🙌🙏
I relate with this a lot. I can take relatively long periods without drinking but when it comes an occasion where I "can" have a glass, lets say a big event, party, wedding ceremony, I just lose it, and I end up drinking more often and it just snowballs from there. If I abstain, I can control it better. And that's just true, when you fall into that pit you lose all your progress and have to start over again.
If you feel yourself that alcohol is a problem in your life, then is most likely is. Your body will tell you when it’s an issue
Exactly 🎉
i had my pancreas fully inflamed and was screaming in pain that was the clear sign i had to stop😆 it's been 3 years and going strong
@@V0ID_beats glad to hear! I’m still having a bit of an alcohol problem myself. Here’s to a new year of good health!
@@V0ID_beats that’s lot of alcohol or you mite be allergic too
@@fizmusic9529 i think it's both i drank very heavily but for a relatively short amount of time it shouldn't f*ck up my pancreas that badly
I believe there are some things that Normal drinkers do not understand about alcoholism, If you are an alcoholic this video does not apply to you, read that again, Alcoholics can not safely drink alcohol even if they have had an awakening . Alcoholics have an allergy of the body and and an obsession of the mind. Read the Dr's opinion in Alcoholics anonymous, I love Eckhart, and Abraham hicks but they are not educated in alcoholism. This is in an opinion of a normal temperate drinker. If you are an alcoholic this does not apply to you...
I'm definitely feeling this, no longer can I over eat, and alcohol feels horrible (I used to be a heavy drinker) however those darn cigarettes still have me by the proverbials
alcohol is a demon
...to weigh the profundity of this piece, i set the scale to kilogramme. After learning my own lesson, i binned drinking for drinking's sake. Getting by without the use of nicotine, and the abuse of alcohol anymore has done me good.
The phrase "alcohol is a mocker" is true
I’ve never heard that expression before- are you sure it exists?
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I think of alcohol, in the analogy of the genie in the bottle.
Shining the outside of the bottle, or Lantern, and granting your ego three wishes, that never produce what you ask for, it mocks you..
In Arabic the word 'jinnie' translates to, spirit.
Alcohol translates to Spirit, and promises to take away one's anxieties, and perhaps have some fun,
or take away one's sadness, or loneliness, and it does for a moment, but it never produces any worthy "fruit"
When you wake up from the dance with the fruitless spirit, you find you've lost more than you gained..
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Even if it didn't exist before I posted it,
it existed as you read it..
A sensation of being present and true, embalmed this talk, was my perception when listening, and still is 🙏 I couldn't however but sense a slight flair of shyness when mentioning a SINGLE experience of LSD. On a personal experience, Eckhart was my anchor of presence during my SEVERAL experiences of psychedelics, always helping me find balance through presence. 🙏
I know now that altered states of consciousness are experiences that must go hand in hand with balance, yet still through the fine art of "letting go" with the least among of resistance from the ego 🙏🙏
Thank you for your beautiful soul Eckhart 🙏🙏🙏
I started reading and listening to podcasts from Islamic scholars about alcohol and it makes sense. Now as I go down a more spiritual route , Christian as I live in UK, o just naturally find myself repulsed by alcohol, bars , meat etc . The cleaner you get the more you open the right path
I would be wary of repulsion, as it seems to highlight darker parts of the psyche, parts that need be worked on, towards acceptance and thankfully letting go.
LIttle surprised at the initial answer but he was right later on about the addictive alcoholic.
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Interesting what he was saying about remaining present while inebriated; everyone would always be amazed by the sheer quantity I could drink and be aware, but it's certainly not something to aspire to, I still damaged my body because of it, hopefully not permanently. Now I've stopped drinking completely life is so much better! Looking back I was really pushing the awakening experience, alcohol was the only thing I found readily available that obviously reduced awareness which at the start of awakening was preferable since I didn't understand what was happening and the anxiety connected to that initial feeling of social separation was horrible until I realised that the separation was only on a social level where of course the awakening process was removing separation and now the feeling of social separateness has gone it's been easy to just walk away from alcohol.
I would love to hear about cigarettes. I barely ever drink but I smoke almost daily
I imagine it's a very similar answer
I eventually read the book by Allen Carr. The easy way to stop drinking. It’s very convincing. There’s nothing good that comes from drinking alcohol. It works . He also wrote a book and cigarettes
Osho has a piece talking about those
Beautiful. All very true - since my own awakening & deep presence & self-awareness alcohol has become less appealing & even if I drink it's done consciously & never to excess anymore because it simply doesn't feel good at all!
I'm so thankful that this video is uploaded before the year 2023, before watching this entirely I thought that quitting alcohol was necessary bc in the beginning of this year I've abused this for dealing with an unhealed relationship with my ex partner, this dragged me back into unconsciously, but since a period of healing, by being alone and reading two of your books, I got the feeling from one to the other day that I don't need to do this anymore, but from time to time I enjoy a tasty glass of wine, your words really helped me by taking my decision.
I eventually read the book by Allen Carr. The easy way to stop drinking. It’s very convincing. There’s nothing good that comes from drinking alcohol. It works .
When the witnessing consciousness gets here then it is love. it's like a marriage. No more spiritual excuses... ;) It's like a mother holding her child because she cares. With skin and hair. Not with words. Not by observing or guessing. Not by "fleeing", no, but by being here, by touching this life. Through what is seen, what is heard. heart open. It seems to me that in such a moment all the questions and answers just don't matter.
I had experienced it that way... I'm so thankful for it.
Living mystery, i dont know ^^
Cheers :)
Is the witnessing consciousness ever not here?
@@oolala53 what i mean is : "moving in" , embodying, feeling, incarnating.
@@chris-tf8yu Are you in control of that? Or did it just seem to happen? As you say, living mystery. At least to me.
@@oolala53 No, I don't have it under control. So in the sense of "do this and then this will happen". But what I've noticed is when I'm relaxed and open and drop all the concepts (including spiritual ones) and fundamentally just don't know anything anymore. Then something new/fresh may just pop up. For me it's like when I was a kid. chilled alive. For example, I also had a phase where I read so many books about spirituality that I no longer knew where the back and the front are. But that didn't happen to me at that time. I guess because I wanted to "understand" everything.
Mystery hits the mark I guess
@@chris-tf8yu Thank you.
I quit drinking 16 months ago.. so grateful for the Devine Intervention.. 4 months later went into the Dark Night of the Soul 🙏
I don't believe so..in moderation however for ME IT IS BAD...we're all different
I never liked alcohol but used it for social anxiety when I was younger but when I had a vision of being native american in a different lifetime and seeing how the alcohol damaged the people I really couldn't go near it again, just being in a bar and I feel the drunken vibes and the spirits of the drunks who have passed on
...then you have the mean drunks..the ones whose personality changes after their 3rd drink,,you know the type..this is SPIRIT POSSESSION....they call it "SPIRITS" for a reason...for some it can be very damaging.........but again it's not "negative" it just is and can be used or misused like anything else.
I binged drank for 30 years. About a week or two before my awaking I suddenly did not have a desire for alcohol or coffee. The awaking happened and I have not drank alcohol since. I about 2 cups of coffee a week now. Strange how the desire completely disappeared.
Eckhart is my best friend without him even knowing...💚💙
I have always drank exactly the right amount of alcohol. But,, sometimes that opinion is contested….
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I quit drinking entirely- after making a new year’s resolution to do more day drinking. You know how that works: nobody keeps those resolutions. A couple days of forcing myself to start drinking early and it became too much work.
I read about a Monk who reached enlightenment at an early age. He spent the rest of his life in a drunkin stupor- too much reality…
I couldn’t imagine anyone who reaches true enlightenment needing any sort of escape from reality from my small glimpses. That said the path itself is most definitely intense and full of deep dark suffering.
@@electricsnut - I prefer my own delusions….
@@electricsnut I agree. I think alcohol can be a part of getting insight and awakening. It puts you closer to your false/confabulated self. It makes it more apparent who you're not (what you can't attain as reality no matter how much you narrate to yourself in daily life that you're this person, and doing these things, experiencing these experiences, and so on). I contrast that with cannabis (which is not poison, not toxic like alcohol) which puts you closer to your true self. It makes the narrated/confabulated self less present, less believable. I think that's why people often say "I tried it and didn't like how it made me feel." To me, that's reason to keep exposing one's self to it (however infrequently). It's not making a person feel a certain way. It's just revealing what's already there. If someone is heavily dependent upon the self-talking mind, the confabulated self, then it will feel disturbingly vulnerable when they get high. Contrast that with alcohol which makes it more believable -- until it wears off and your body is recovering from the toxicity of alcohol.
IMO, both can provide insight. Just opposite kinds of insight. Alcohol puts us below thought (subject to thought, believing thought). Cannabis puts us above thought (observing thought, questioning thought. Which can be disturbing the more someone lives in their thoughts, narrates their life.). It's like a "red pill/blue pill" proposition. You can't know what red or blue is without experiencing the other. They shed light upon each other.
@@markfuller Definitely, I’ve experienced temporary enlightenment from guided psychedelic experiences but its only a glimpse and it’s taken away from you again. Achieving enlightenment following the full path is said to be permanent and I can tell you from the brief experience that everything is so perfect there is no need for any escapes anymore. Everything just is perfection and pure conciseness. The price of admission is very high though on the path.
I think being aware and conscious brings about responsibility . I used to drink too much wine, and demonized it ( and not my inability to control myself )and stopped. However I really enjoy the taste of wine, and have learned about its production, vast varieties, and vineyards around the world. I now enjoy a glass or two occasionally without the need to have more. Needing more than that, and needing to fiercely abstain from it are both extremes that I don't have to indulge in.
People don't have to fiercely abstain. They can choose to abstain because they don't want the negative effects from it. They don't need any intoxicant to make them happy.
Eckhart tolle be careful🙏 everyone starts with a glass of wine, then they don’t understand how they drink every day, it happens very smoothly, imperceptibly🤷♂️😊 thank you for such videos, I always watch you as much as the back leg twitches with pleasure🤭
I was thinking the same. If it's a glass of wine with dinner and a person can't do without it, I wouldn't think it's so harmless. Where there's 1 drink, there can be 2 or 3 which creates a sort of addiction even though a light one which has nothing to do with real awakening.
I absolutely love every word that you speak.
Ramdas, before he passed away, shared (can't seem to remember exactly where) that the story of him giving LSDs to his guru in his book was not true. But I am sure what you say is absolutely correct in terms of what he would have experienced had he actually taken hits of LSDs.
Sorry mate not quite true, I'm a big follower of Ram Dass. It's a true story to which friends of his and podcasts still confirm. What happened was that he gave him a few hits one time, then started doubting his Guru; maybe he'd deceived him, thrown it over his shoulder quick. His Guru knew all that went on at all times in everyone's mind that's how far beyond this reality he was, a whole other level to Eckhart though I love him. The next time Ram Dass visited his Guru asked him 'you gave me LSD before, did I take it?' knowning his doubts...Ram Dass said..'I think so'...his Guru requested more and took about 4 times the amount as the time before and placed them directly on his tongue so as to make it very clear. Still, nothing happened. Ram Dass's conclusion was 'if you're already in Detroit, you don't need to take a train to Detroit'